 The army has rescued five of the dozens of students abducted from a girls school in Benin Kirby on Thursday. One teacher has also been rescued but a student was found dead in the forest. Those who were rescued were freed after an exchange of fire in the early hours of Friday. The teacher says more than 80 students were taken despite warnings of a potential attack. In the last few hours we've come across the kidnappers. They came to a blocking point and we've engaged them early hours of this morning. At that point we have, they have abandoned five of the students and one of the teachers. Unfortunately I think we've lost one of the, one of the students. I want to raise a song to praise my God for keeping us alive and also for giving me the courage to withstand whatever is going on because my husband is one of the kidnappers that they went with. Joining us live to discuss this is Adea Misaka, a security analyst. Good evening, Mr. Saka. Yeah, good evening. Thank you for joining us. The news, yes, the news we have is that out of about 80 students abducted, three teachers, five have been rescued, one found dead. How do you react to this news? Well, for me, excuse me. I think it's the charity news that yes, we were able to rescue some of the adopted students, but let's get something clear. You probably know my opinion. I've shared it on your platform a couple of times. We've been jigged this system, we've changed services like twice, we've had two sets of services. We're still combatting terrorism and it's not abated, it's rather increasing. And now, what is the question? Where does this, where is the failure of security? If you look at this charity incident, for two weeks there's been a trail of it. There was an attack. There was an abduction of policemen and what are these. And there's an NSA system in Abuja. There has not come up with anything. I think after the abduction series they go, the attack, or probably at the same time they go. I believe the security on that level at Treby State should be at the highest point. Treby borders Zanfar and Sokoto and Niger. We know how much Niger and Zanfar has been dealing with that abduction and kidnapping and banditry. Any right-thinking, security, SBAS, analysis, intelligence officer, NSA, we probably would have been called, we probably now would be coming up with these points or series of intelligence analysis to create an attack. And these would have solved, but these would probably reduce the way that our military actions is reactionary, are precautionary. And again, if we are smart enough, and we have intelligence analysis to work in, bank through, in, or to work with, that would end up reducing the combative and the non-combative collateral damage. Like one of the other guys, that would reduce the combative collateral damage incurred in the path of our personnel. So we have to keep passing ourselves. Why are we, what are we just, why are we beating around the bush, and not getting to any destination? As we speak, Zanfar, Kebi, Niger, and by extension, Karuna, should be in a mutualized zone. And in a mutualized zone, how do you want to tell me that kidnappers move the large numbers of students without, without encounter, yeah, they're starting to get out of the checkpoint. In mutualized zone, you should probably have what's going on over there. This is going in place. And there's a huge project to the office of the MSP, and demand a system down there, doing nothing, not giving the military guys on the field partable intelligence to work with. It's not because they're just coming down, we are losing land. We are losing Nigerians. And Mr. President is speaking, please, please, just a couple of times. So, Mr. Sakha, in this particular case in Kebi's state, we spoke to the police PRO in the state, and he mentioned that they had gotten prior information, intelligence, that, you know, bandits might strike, and their men had been stationed at some schools in the state, including that particular school. But the unfortunate thing was that they were overpowered by the bandits. So, I don't know, whose fault did you say that is, saying that they had already put effort in place to forestall the attack, but it failed? Well, you say that's a correct thing. We should not stop, we should stop this water down definition of these guys. These guys are not bandits. These guys are terrorists. These guys are active cells of Bukwara. I don't know why, I don't know why Nigerians and journalists and everybody's in prison, they were bandits. These guys are terrorists. And these, these, these are cells of Bukwara, or prison, they were certainly a center among the area of concentration away from the northeast. And they're not in north way. So, for me, it is not unless you, yes, they could put, you cannot cover, but it's not unless you say they cannot cover the whole of Kedin. They would have, you would have forethought these things if there was extra violence in place. And you cannot tell me, you can tell that they're coming to attack you. And not if these, in this, there's something called a roving patrol and a stationary patrol. All they had probably in Kedin, there was a stationary patrol in place. There was a roving patrol. And to make this patrol thing easy, you need an air providence. What are all the beds they have are there in, that's why some of us are clamoring to improve air wing of the harmony and water. What many beds they have in, in, in the sky, that night or that day, you cannot tell me one of four stories telling me to attack and there's no air providence in place. For recon. All right, miss. I, I, I was never in the DSS training screen about you. I was never, I, I, I never got, I've never been to NDE. If I can know this as a Nigerian, as, as water, as, as a Nigerian river, what is there to be doing? So, Mr. Saka, you're saying that you'd rather, you know, advocate for militarization of these zones rather than pain, you know, ransom for the release of these children? If, if this zone is militarized, that means you probably have, that means each presence of military. It doesn't necessarily mean the suspension of democratic laws and what that means. It gives you each presence of military, roadblocks, command posts and what that means. And each presence of operations, surveillance and counterinsurgency, with that, it should be easy for these Cuban historians to strike. Why is Kedi, why is Danfara, why is Niger not yet the militarized zone? And Kastina, this thing is not rocket science. It's, it's, it's painful when you come, you, you hear on the news, week and week out Nigerians are being kidnapped. Some are even being killed. Ransoms are being paid for criminals that should be in body bags. All right. We should stop making a joke of our nationhood. Lastly, Mr. Saka, how do you think this would impact on education in Nigeria, seeing that the high number of out-of-school children is as bad as it is in the north? Well, it's not just even about education. Unless you want to deliver as well. I don't, I'm not trying to do a process of them. Yes, it's going to have negative effects on education. It's going to have a huge impact on food security. If you are not careful, the future of this country around August and September will be enormous. It's so high. People can't even go to the farm. Zansara, the freedom of Zansara families are upright. People can't go to farming Zansara. How many people can? The whole of second power to just a little of nicer things. It is not for yams. How many people can have gone to the courts to cultivate yams? Benway, Benway is a noble area. One wants to analyze it. So it's not just on education. It's even on every, it's a state, every state of our life. And the government will wake up. You've, you've regained the system for what it is. Which hasn't happened. They keep changing. They're changing everything. Thank you. Let's start from there. All right, Mr. Saka. Thank you very much for your time. Thanks for coming in and joining us on the news this night. You're welcome.