 It's so stupid. It's positively brilliant Yep, Shalemaine the guy Andrew Schultz We are the brilliant idiots podcast back for another fucking week another quarantined week. Um, I feel like we're making progress though Yeah, I feel like we're making progress whether or not we make in progress or not the country about to be open Make a swim goddamn it. Yeah bad timing. I would say for Memorial Day weekend I maybe don't open it up the weekend where everybody hangs out with the most people You think you think they don't know what they're doing you think they're doing my purpose People got stimulus checks All right, open up the goddamn country. Let them go out and spend some money Yo, but spend some money after Memorial Day like Memorial Day is literally and I'm guilty this I'm going to my boys crib in in Long Island, right? The point is so hard to resist. It's easy to resist on a random weekend Weekend you sit home. You're like, nah, I'm a wait. I'm a wait for Memorial weekend No, yeah, you need to be hard to resist. That's why I think they've kept the temperature cold What do you think that that's harp? That's the weather machine I think the weather machine they're doing something with the weather because think about it's May We haven't had more than two days. There were over 70 maybe one day. There was 80 It's been 50s 40s. Yes, but mr. New Yorker. Okay, look look at the other 49 states What about I'm sure that his place is that it's absolutely warm I don't know. I don't know if you knew this about New Yorkers, but we don't think about any other state Did you know that that I that I knew it's that I knew it's 80 plus degrees down south has been that for a minute But they don't have corona down south like we do we're like the ground zero of corona It's the New York has it the worst. Yeah, absolutely. New York has it the worst I mean California is a good testing ground to watch, but I thought nobody's got it in California Hell no, California got it. I think California got the third. No Yeah, I thought they had the third highest amount of cases. I thought it was maybe I'm wrong I thought it was New York, New Jersey and Cali who the fuck knows all I know is that the fucking country is reopening Partially, let's go. Hey, man. Let's go We don't have no choice unless somebody else got some other bright options unless you got some of that goddamn Hydrochloroquine you want to pass out what you do get give us shots at the bar this weekend What's that shit called I think you got it right hydrochloroquine Yes, listen, um, it's crazy as it may sound. Um, I Know a guy. I know two people actually mm-hmm But one's name is John McConnell I can say his name because his story is public John McConnell is a radio agent Literally thought he was on his deathbed like him and his wife started writing their wills like literally started writing their wills And it was like yo, I got corona. No things are really bad They was really really sick and you know, that was one of the the last results was him taking the hydrochloroquine and that was back in like Early March and then it worked it worked So it's a whole article on it if you Google Google his name John McConnell Hydrochloroquine, I forgot what I forgot what John lives at but he has a whole article on it He said it worked for him. So look, I don't know. I would just say that before you take any of that stuff consult the doctor I mean, I wouldn't tell I wouldn't tell you to get it yourself and you know pull up a gallon With two styrofoam cups and some goddamn phantom I Would tell you consult your doctor, but hey John McConnell is a living testimony. He said it will work for him Man, if you're about to die, you're willing to take anything. Let's be honest. That is fact Experiment on me if I'm about to die, you're giving me a week left or you give me three days Whatever it is. I don't give a fuck what it does. Just put it on me. Let's go That is a fact. Listen, let's get into positively brilliant What a fucking idiot if you've never listed a brilliant idiot's podcast if you're a new listener if you are og Brilliant idiots listen up. This is the the part of the show where we salute people for being positively brilliant And we just give people the credit they deserve for being a fucking idiot. Yes Where do we start show? I mean, I think we both know. Yeah, I think we both know Do you want to crack it off? I think we're both thinking about the same thing Charlotte. Yeah, man. I am Positively brilliant. Mm-hmm. Absolutely has to go The deal and I say the deal because I like that. Yeah, it's too Yes, Spotify and Joe Rogan hundred percent, you know The reason I have to include both of them is because All right, the reason I love podcasts, right? It's because podcasts Podcasts elevate Everything that made the world of radio great talk to me Well, when you're in the audio business To me the thing that makes any audio business great person radio our podcast is personalities Okay, I don't give a fuck everything else is secondary. I don't care I don't care what anybody tells me. It's kind of like the argument You know, Michael Jordan was trying to make with Jerry Krauss like when Jerry Krauss talks about management and Players, bro, you need the players who's in the fucking jerseys. Yeah, okay If you don't believe me go play a old fucking video game when Michael Jordan wasn't allowed to be In the video games because of his deal with Nike or whatever and tell me that basic ass 23 with the ball head wasn't trash. All right, you wouldn't want that. All right You want that Jordan on the back? You want that MJ? So in radio regardless of, you know, what kind of company you have whether it's a podcast company or radio company You need talent and a lot of times these companies don't like to invest in talent, you know, when it comes to radio radio turned into a jukebox, you know and Talent became secondary and that's why I think person. That's why I think podcasts Box to all the young people listening that don't know what a jukebox is or I've never used a jukebox A jukebox is basically your iPod, but it's big as hell It sits on the floor and like local juke joints there. I don't explain what a juke joint is There was a machine in the bar that you put a dollar and you could play a few songs Music exactly and I was saying that like radio kind of transition from having these personalities It would talk a lot to this place where you would just play different songs So then the radio station stopped investing in personalities as much because I guess they weren't as important Absolutely, that's why I know kind of weirdly it's almost like radio experienced the AI takeover before People at factories or people at fast food restaurants in that regard, you know where it's like Oh shit, we can get a robot to do your job for you. Boom are in certain cases because the only place that A lot of radio stations still care about talent is morning drive Right, but but when you have A great morning show all you got to do is syndicate that morning show throughout the country, which I'm not arguing about I'm not complaining about I'm a nationally syndicated radio personality. Right great for me But what about the next Charlemagne? What about the next bobby bones? What about the next, you know Elvis the rain, you know with Joe Rogan, you know, we was on his podcast I think that was last year and Joe Rogan said he feels like I'm the last Great radio personality. I'm like, I'm the last great radio star that kind of hurt You know I'm saying even though it feels good to be that but it's still hurt because I'm like Damn, this is my industry. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't want to see My industry just you know go to the wayside because people aren't doing what Spotify did with Joe Rogan Which is invest in top tier talent It's not rocket science You if you a fucking owner of an nfl team if you are owner of an mba team your owner of an hl team You're owner of a tv network. You're owner of a fucking movie industry. You go try to get the best person And you don't penny pinch with the best person you cut the best person to fuck off And then you sit back and watch your stocks go up 11% like Spotify did yesterday Simple like why do we complicate this thing man? So for me, I just think that it's brilliant that it's brilliant on Spotify's in that they recognize top tier talent and that they invest in top tier talent And it's brilliant on Joe Rogan's in because He didn't have to do this Right You look at a guy who Last year he made 30 million dollars off live shows off ad revenue of what he does on youtube Literally, he made four said he made 30 million dollars I thought that was just off the podcast 30 mil Yeah, it was just off the podcast not even including the live shows not including his equity in the in the brands that he uh He owns like they said they said they said his live shows ad revenue And what he makes off youtube his podcast made 30 million dollars. Is it the podcast made 30 million? Yeah, the podcast not him. Joe Rogan's podcast made 30 mil So that's not something he had to do unless Spotify came with a life changing number, which clearly they did Yeah, you know me, but that's what you do when you're investing in that kind of talent But I just I just I respect joe because What 11 years he's been doing this podcast some people get comfortable Hmm, you know, some people Are are are good with their spot They're not thinking about what that next level is or how they can get to that next level Clearly he's thinking like that. Hmm, you know what I'm saying? So I just think is I think it's a positively brilliant move um from both parties and I just really commend Spotify for Investing in talent because I just feel like that's what the audio business has to do I think that's what radio has to continue to do if they want to be relevant I think that you know these radio companies that are getting into the podcast space You have to you have to invest into these podcasts You just you just you just have to these parties as podcasts is out here that are bigger than 90% of all radio personalities out right now. So why wouldn't you invest in that talent? So I just think it was a brilliant move. Yeah, I agree with you I think it was brilliant and I agree for both parties like Let's start with Spotify. You know, what is Spotify at the end of the day, right? It's an audio platform, right? It wants to be I would assume The place that everybody goes to listen to anything And right now I think that they've got the music part down, right? Like when I go listen to music I turn on Spotify. It's just easier I feel like the algorithms are algorithms are better for like choosing music, etc But there are other things that we listen to outside of music. Matter of fact, we might listen to podcasts more Than music. So if they're going to be an audio platform, they got to get into the podcast space Now in order to get into the podcast space You need to qualify yourself as a place for podcasting. There is no better way to do that Then having the biggest podcast in history On your platform 100% so they invested when you think about it. They invested in brand They invested in their own brand. They bought brand when you get the Joe Rogan experience On to your platform. Now you're a podcasting platform You'll immediately become a podcasting platform and And so I thought that was brilliant from them business wise and then also from Joe I thought it was brilliant the fact that he said I don't work for Spotify. They are licensing my content Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, that's something that we got to point out and let's explain that to the people explain explain that difference between that Um, I mean, there was a few things about the deal, right? Uh, the fact that because I was reading up on it I read up on it a lot last night, but when he said, um That they didn't buy Joe Rogan's company. They bought Joe Rogan's show Which to me is brilliant within itself license the show For three years, I'm sorry like license Joe's show, but they didn't buy his company If you look at a lot of other deals Spotify did they actually bought the company. So that means that they own the ip So like a gimlet anchor Uh bill Simmons and the ringer like those investments were made into an actual company. This was a licensing deal Uh, what they made an investment into a show and a singular Individual Owning the show and licensing it. Yeah licensing just means that they have the right to distribute it exclusively That's all they don't own it. They don't own it. You get it back at the end of that licensing deal. It's still yours They're essentially leasing your show like you would lease an apartment So they're releasing exactly what they're doing your show or like you lease a car, etc And the genius thing about it is let's say Joe doesn't like this after three years He gets right back to what he's doing Let's say he does like it after three years and he sees the value that he's brought to Spotify Well, shit crank up that deal. Let's run it back when I continue to own this Yeah, I thought it was so such a brilliant thing. Now. I know a lot of people are going to go Well, yeah, you could reduce the amount of people that are going to go over there You could reduce the amount of people that are listening Spotify, I would say is not like Um, like luminary or one of these like fledgling startups that got a lot of money But didn't even really know what they were doing. They wanted to be like the netflix a podcasting People already have Spotify. It's a very popular listening platform 286 million monthly subscribers and furthermore you don't need to pay for Spotify if you don't want to So if you want to listen to the Joe Rogan experience for free like you were listening to an apple music You can do that Spotify will insert ads just like Rogan had ads on his thing So I don't think he's given up that much Um, like efficiency of searching for content Like yeah, people have to download the Spotify app or whatever, but yeah I think that the way they're rolling it out, which is fucking brilliant is And you I think you were explaining this to me last night, right? They're not doing a full transfer until january 1st Right, so september 1st his catalog will go over there september 1st all the back episodes go over there All the back all the all the back catalog He's because he's given up all 11 years of his catalog So all the catalog will be there on september 1st and then um exclusive He'll be exclusively us coming out on Spotify. I think january 1st So now you have Basically, Joe Rogan has from now until january 1st to get every single person that listens to it regularly to just hit download on the Spotify app That's literally all you have six months to hit download on the Spotify app I mean it is And to be honest is a good move by Spotify because there's some iconic interviews on Rogan Like if you want to hear the Elon musk one if you want to hear he's like the way I look at his podcast is kind of like Remember encyclopedia britannica remember when we were growing up. We had that shit It was all those books you can look up anything Absolutely, and I feel like he's had all these experts on his podcast So that's the new generation's encyclopedia britannica. It's like You want to hear killer mike talk about the black experience in america? Well, there's an iconic interview right there You want to hear these people talk about that? So I and dude to go make fuck you money to make like generational wealth shit Cheers the thing right like um Yeah, it's risk involved right it's risk involved when you leave apple It's risk involved when you take all your content off youtube apple makes up 60 of all podcast listening audience But yo at some point you got a bet on yourself Right you Joe fucking rogan, right? Yep So if if you if if you got a coat like following And you know you believe in your people and you believe in your audience They should follow you But guess what? Even if they don't you still won What the fuck you you walked away with a hundred plus m's at the end of the goddamn day How much is it two years old? How much is it? The deal do you know I think that joe rogan up front probably got 125 to 150 million And I think on the back end He stands to make Probably another 150 Explain that to me the back end thing Well, i'm sure i'm sure i'm sure that he has you know bonuses I'm sure that he has bounties to where you know it's people can Go to spotify and say hey, i'm i'm downloading spotify Specifically for the joe rogan podcast, you know i'm saying like i'm sure that they'll be able to see the amount of people Who signed up to spotify specifically for the joe rogan podcast It's kind of like the same deal how would stern had which serious satellite radio You know i'm saying like he yeah, you know he got he got a certain amount up front But then he had a whole bunch in stock and then he had a whole bunch of other bonuses and incentives and things like that I'm so joe i'm sure joe still has the same the same type of deal. I could i can't see him getting no more I can't see him getting any less than 125 up front Oh, because just just just for everything he gave up because think about it like If they did if he was making 30 million a year on a podcast and it's a three-year deal It doesn't make sense for him to do it for only 120 Because he was gonna make 100 he was gonna make 90 in that amount of time or the podcast could grow in that amount of time And maybe he ends up making 120 I feel like he's got to be Double what he would have made in those three years at the current rate bare minimum So it's like I I think it's got to be at least 180 And maybe over 200 mil with those incentives and stuff that you were talking about total You think 180 up front? I think it's got to be guaranteed 180 because he's gonna make 90 in those three years. Anyway, you got to give me some incentive. You got to double me up If i'm gonna go we don't we don't know what he was doing prior though like 30 million might have been his best year Which which is the number you should negotiate. Yeah, don't you don't you sell a business based on like 10x what your revenue is in the last year Something like that. There's like because you assume that well, he's not selling his whole business, but you assume growth So if you only have it for three years, maybe you sell it at 2x or something I don't know somebody somebody smarter than me can figure that out, but yeah, I think I think five years I think it's like five years 30 That's why I say I think I can't see him getting no less than 120 150 up front And probably he probably stands to make like another 100 150 on the back end over over time now But but we could be completely wrong totally but but the wall street journal reported that it was definitely over 100 It yeah has to be 100% now. Does this get you thinking? Does this get you thinking about your future? Not only with this podcast But with radio and the opportunities for you to do You know to be in the audio business on paid platforms. It's got to get you thinking You know, you know how like you know how you know how when you're friends with somebody and they already know the answer to a question They ask you they ask you they ask you on a podcast just for the content Hell fucking yeah, who wouldn't who wouldn't think like this? You gotta ask the questions that people want to know bruh hell. Yeah, you fucking yeah So let me go see can I tell you to the Charlemagne power last week? You're like, I'm not talking about Tekashi at all. We talked about Tekashi that clip But you talk about Tekashi I think hit a million fucking views on our clips channel that had 2000 subscribers Lord have mercy But but yeah, hell fucking yeah I sent that I actually sent that Joe Rogan article around to a lot of different people that I respect in the audio business from radio Two podcasts, you know just to you know, see what they're thinking, you know, what's their temperature on this? How did they feel because like things like this to me? They're a great disruption. It's a beautiful disruption Right saying I love I love the fact that Spotify Is disrupting things the way that they are right now, you know what I'm saying? And I think that that's what you have to do when you're trying to make a splash When you're trying to make a splash of you got to go get the big fucking whale And you drop that big fucking whale in the ocean and you watch all the water shoot up in the fucking air And everybody else gets wet like it sends a message to everybody else that wants to be in the podcast space If you want to be in the podcast space in a real way Then you have to stop looking at podcasters like they're just some You know third fourth weight fourth rate broadcasters And understand that these people are Top tier is 2000 and fucking 20. Yeah, you know me when you when you talking about the great communicators You talking about the great people with microphones You're out of your fucking mind if you're not putting some of these podcasters Yo, because think about it How do you break into the radio business back in the day right is similar to the news business? You have to go to a small market you try to make it at a small market Then they maybe bump you up to a mid-level market. Then they maybe bump you up to Uh a major market, right? You could if you're a kid that's growing up and he lives in brooklyn It's like do I really want to move to fucking north dakota to do the afternoons Or do I just want to start a podcast And build that shit up right here with my homies and have the guests on that I want to have on a talk about the shit I want to talk about and curse if I want to curse have the conversations I want to have of course i'm gonna do that instead of move to north dakota That's why I love the podcast spaceman because you know it goes back to what I was saying about You know who's next right because Only you know only in the podcast world right now can You see This wild ass dude from brownsville on twitter and invite him to your podcast And then he becomes a podcast star himself Taxed on you know i'm saying only in the podcast world can you know og rap veterans You know like noriega and joe budden reinvent themselves You know in a different way for a different audience, you know i mean 10 years ago Both of them was probably trying to figure out how to keep their rap careers going 10 years later neither one of them were thinking about fucking rap. Yeah, you understand you understand i'm saying like Is podcast are still why do you think that is? Why do you think it's so much easier? To do that with a podcast what you just said i don't have to i don't have to wait It's no it's no red tape. Yeah like like with radio. There's really not a lot of real estate You know i'm saying like everything is automated. So where do you put the new guy? Yeah, I started off doing overnight 12 Midnight the five in the morning. You know i mean like who's getting that opportunity now Like who's listening to air checks in 2020 like the new air check is the podcast The new air check is the video the video blog that's where the new air check is instagram like if i'm a radio Consultant or i'm a radio program director. I'm scouring the internet looking for that next talent But you know why a lot of them aren't doing that but they're not looking for talent They're looking for music and spotify is so smart because spotifies You know they part of that lawsuit right now where the writers are trying to get you know, uh more more royalties, right? This is spotify spotify pandora All the streaming platforms Most all of the streaming platforms. I think everybody except for apple and i'm i'm i think title i'm not sure but They're trying to get more money like so these songwriters are trying to get more money That's not a sustainable business Right and plus everybody got the music apple got the same music spotify got the same music I hard got the same music. They all have the same music on these streaming services pandora what will separate All of these platforms from each other if everybody's Bass is music the same thing that separates radio stations the fucking personality You got to invest in talent like it's not rocket science people. It's simple. And that's why like even even even any Anything I do next man Whatever platform it is. I have to have the ability To empower other people. That's why I love what we've been doing over here at the loudspeaker network You know for the for the for the for the past several years like, you know, this enables us to empower Other people right just by just being able to launch their podcast You know, whether they whether they stick around with loudspeaker not who gives a damn I just like the fact that it's so many different voices Being cultivated and that's that's what I that's what I'm happy You know spotify is doing and I can't wait to see what everybody else does I can't wait to see how this makes you know I heart move with the way they're doing their podcast thing I can't wait to see how if if apple might jump in the game on some exclusive shit Because right now apple got a monopoly on everything 60 60 percent of the podcast listen an audience is on apple Right, but they don't have any of their own exclusive podcasts. They have exclusive exclusive content Like Nicki Minaj queen radio could easily be a podcast Uh what drake is doing with young money radio that could easily be a podcast But they're not positioning it as such they're positioning it as young money radio queen radio Um when drake was doing it it was over your radio They got beats one over there, but even that's positioned like a radio station I'm interested to see what happens when they jump into the exclusive podcast market You know, yeah, I mean it could be a huge advantage like I wonder if musicians will start to do this. Do you think musicians will exclusively release their music on certain sound platforms? It'd be smart to I mean some of them have already done that chance to rap or did that with color and book But I mean if I was somebody like drake, I why would I sign another record here? I would just take money I would just take fucking let apple give me 20 million dollars 30 million dollars for an album Or let Spotify give me a a bunch of m's for an album and put that shit out, you know, I mean Yeah, because think about it. It's like the label really isn't doing anything for a guy like drake Right. It's like nah, you know, I don't need the label to go print out some fucking CDs and put them in a cd store There is no cd store anymore. Everything is digital. So the labels become the middleman for the elite guys So you could just get rid of them. It's kind of like what happened with tv It's just like tv was there was a great conduit to the people But now that we can get directly to the people tv don't need to exist I'll just give you the shit Without it being cut And the reason the reason the reason podcasts are better than music though Think about all the the ways you got to divide the pie when you're doing music You know what I'm saying? You put out a song artist got to get paid producer got to get paid songwriter Got to get paid label got to get paid all these different people got to get paid you put out the podcast You getting paid and you're producer getting paid Like it's really just as simple your edit is getting paid. It's not a lot of people to pay out man. I just um It's interesting. I want to see what Spotify does to though Like to Spotify continue to be aggressive that they've been very aggressive. That's the thing dude like now that you've landed the big fish, right You've cornered you've bought brand you've invested in brand So now you are synonymous with podcasting because you got the big fish The other thing that you could start doing is if you're them Is getting niche and going okay, we have a podcasting platform because we got the big fish But maybe we should start servicing the niche parts of podcasting. So I want a You know, what is that like a murder mystery podcast? They probably already have some of these, you know I want to get it. Yeah, they're doing it right So it's like let me service all the different parts of podcasting where they went with sports when they bought up the ringer Right, so it seems like they're going after every little thing So maybe they continue to do that who knows if they can spend the same amount of money or will be as you know, um Generous with the deals, but uh, I think that you're going to see a trend. I think it's not only Spotify I think you see the other ones start to spend a lot of money as well I think that's what we're doing now. Let's do it. Everybody is in a race to to play second in the entertainment business It's going to be industry. It's going to be very interesting when um, these these these screaming platforms actually still more From the blueprint of radio. I don't even know if I want to use the word still but take more From the blueprint of radio because the next logical thing after this is is is some type of daily programming, right? Yo, you know saying like you go grab you grab You know, if they can woo one of these top tier talents away and they put them on daily You telling me that could be a game changer you telling me if The breakfast club was on Apple or Spotify every single morning you could turn in and while you were listening you could also watch it Because you know apple has that with some of their shit now. You could like watch the music video I think you could like watch the music video with the song or something. I forget exactly what I was watching You could watch some part of Spotify is doing that too. That's why they bought all joe's exclusive content That's why that's why they imagine that you sit in there you watching it Right or you listen to the song and you just listen on your way to work And then something funny is happening in the studio and then you get to look at your phone and all of a sudden see the video as well Shit every single day. You don't think that they're thinking that right now. You're crazy 100% Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons um even with the iHeart radio app That's why the iHeart radio app is so successful because you can tune into a bunch of different radio stations 24 hours a day Seven days a week, you know, you can listen to the breakfast club You can listen to Elvis Durant You can listen to bobby bones ryan secrets big boy, whoever it is and they even have other stations on there that aren't iHeart You know what I mean, but that's a daily thing. So daily you can go to your iHeart radio app Like it's that's only a matter of time before Spotify I don't know about apple so much apple's so interesting to me because all of that other all of this music Shit, that's a lost leader for apple You want to know why they don't care in my opinion? Because that goddamn phone you keep picking up well also in order to download spotify on that phone. Where do I gotta go? To your apple phone and I got to go to the apple app store apple app store Anything that's downloaded and paid monthly for in the apple app store. Guess who gets a piece apple So they're like, all right spotify. Yo, you do all the heavy lifting We're gonna get our you know pound of flesh of that heavy lifting you do We don't give a fuck. I really don't know if they're trying to compete in that space I almost think they'd rather everybody else take care of the software shit And they just get a piece of every single time it goes on their phones kind of smart You really want to be in the weeds like you know hustling for that shit like nah, fuck that Yeah, I mean listen like I said, it's gonna be interesting to see if apple gets in that space. Um I don't know if that's something I would Tell people to do though only because I just don't know how much of an investment apple would make Into the the audio personality space in that way Like it just seems like something they do every now and then like I could say like a little way Nicki Minaj Drake whoever else they got over there, but they don't it's not like spotify spotify seems to be making a real Investment because that's their only way to make money Right. I feel like apple is doing it You know, uh, it's treating it like a like your vacation home You know, it's like, all right, yeah, we'll go out there for the summer, you know We'll spend a few weeks there, but that's not the bread and butter. That's not the mansion You know the mansion is the actual computers the the the headphones You know the the regular phones like the actual hardware what they create And then the platforms to download all the other shit. That's where I think they make their money Even paying door. I want to know what the fuck paying door is How is doing business? I do not know Well, you know, they merged well, I don't I think serious satellite radio to either bought pandora or something I know there's some type of merger with pandora and serious satellite radio if i'm not mistaken I don't know how both of them are still in business to be honest with you I just know you're right pandora did they did right So like if I was pandora, I would have at least I would at least have shade 45 For free on pandora You know what i'm saying? I mean you might can't put that I would put I would put like maybe rebroadcast of how it's turned free on pandora Like it had to be something there to drive me daily Like you got this this entity serious satellite radio, which is giving you programming every day Yeah, somebody that free programming on pandora to entice people to maybe I don't know subscribe to shade 45 or I don't know. I just think when you have these platforms You just have to be giving these people something daily and like I said I hard does a very good job at that because you can go listen to all these different radio stations every day But I think it's only a matter of time before one of these other streaming servers You know gets into that gets into that world gets into that business and that's going to be a real game changing I wonder who it will be I don't know My haircut looks great, bro. My haircut looks fantastic. I'm getting one this weekend, bro. Fuck all that bullshit Fuck it, bro. Look at this shit right here. Look at that. I can't take it no more That's my god, alex man came out here, bro different alex came out here to the studio chopped my shit up beautiful You know, but yeah salute the uh salute to joe roganus Joe man, congrats. You fucking deserve it dog and salute to spotify. That's a ballsy move But if you don't make ballsy moves, you don't make money, man You want to be great? You got to do great things so Shout out to the people over at spotify as well and uh, and they're not stupid people I would not be surprised. You know if uh, if they try to do some daily shit soon. I would not be surprised, bro We'll see Uh, what a fucking idiot. I don't know if this should be in what a fucking idiot talk to me Trump promoting the hydrochloroquine Does it work, bro? I've heard two people tell me it works. I have two Real-life testimonies. That's some shit. I heard on youtube. That's some shit. I heard on google I know two people who told me that it fucking works John mcconnell is one of them. John mcconnell was about to die Him and his wife and he said it saved their life So I don't know I think that I think donald trump tells the truth Every every ten statements. Yo, it's a broken clock. I do I do only because He's not smart enough to know he's supposed to be lying right I think that he had A moment this week because I think I still maintain he had corona a few weeks ago He looked like he had corona. Oh, true. I think yes And I think he got on that hydrochloroquine and it helped him out And he was just he was just talking like he usually does and he said that shit I mean Your boy who whose life was saved by hydrochloroquine He's probably spreading the word about it, right? I think yeah, I mean he did it's an order if you google his name John mcconnell It's all he did an article about it. So yeah, so he's like I want as many people to be saved by this shit You know as possible. So I'm gonna let people know and trump is like yo the healthcare workers is using it like Hey, all I'm simply saying is if you're gonna do it do it with a doctor's assistance Let a doctor subscribe it to you don't just jump out there and mother fucking say hey, you know I'm just gonna pop this shit like no make sure you got a doctor Doctor with you. It's just it's just hard. How are they gonna get it? How are they gonna get it without a doctor, bro? You know a dude slinging on the corner Where you ordered some say what? I ordered some you can order some I'm gonna be honest with you. I ordered. I went online I went on amazon because somebody told me to order but they sent me like some goddamn dietary supplement Yeah, I don't think you got hydrochloroquine. No, I ain't got that good shit It's hydro something though. Yeah It's it's high it might be hydrochloroquine hydrochloro hydrochloro rich homie kwan is what I think you might have got that one That makes a little bit more sense But yeah, I don't know. Is that uh, what a fucking idiot? I'm not sure man. I don't know. I don't know You know who could be what a fucking idiot? I gotta finish reading the article But this is gonna be an absolutely brilliant idiot thing to do just talk about it before you finish the article Fuck facts. Fuck facts, right? You know and this is why what is what a fucking idiot? You know who's been apparently saying fuck facts as well Ronan Farrow What do you mean? So matt lauer wrote this piece of new york times wrote a piece basically saying like ronan farrow has been you know manipulating facts manipulating history In defending all of his me twos that have come out and then matt lauer just wrote an article and released an article about how Basically shitty ronan farrow's journalism was And you know ronan farrow was like writing all those pieces you take he wrote a whole book about it What was it called chris? You probably know that book probably be whacking off every night. What's the name of it? The name of his book. Yeah I actually don't know. I've seen the articles about this, but I haven't read them either to be honest So but but there's so it's matt lauer who was cancelled um, and you know fired by mb mbc he basically wrote this piece and um It's it's called matt lauer Why ronan farrow is indeed too good to be true and I haven't finished reading it yet But it seems like ronan farrow might have been fabricating some stuff The name of his book was catching kill Yeah I don't know but it could be a possibility What are you thinking? I mean, I don't know. I mean all all that a lot of this me too stuff was he said she said anyway So, I mean, I don't It's it's gonna be like if I got accused right by ronan farrow I would say he's lying too That's why I said it like I Matt lauer could be absolutely telling the truth, but nobody's gonna listen to him Right, you know, I'm saying like nobody's gonna listen to him like it would take a whole total You know other Person to come out that had that didn't get me to Or didn't have a axe to grind against ronan farrow to be like y'all ronan farrow lied about a lot of stuff in that book I think it would take a it would take a it would take one of the Women to come out and be like yo, it's bullshit. Yeah, I never I never said that to ronan or something like that I think the reason that it came I think the reason why he wrote the piece is because prior to him putting out the piece The new york times wrote a piece questioning ronan farrow's uh journalistic integrity So so he's like oh boom now's the time to drop because if I dropped it before It just looked like you know looks like you're copping pleas for what you did But if the new york times questions the credibility of the person that accused you and the reason why you don't have a job Then you dropped the thing going. Yep. Yep. See I didn't do none of this shit. This guy's a liar Yeah, could be interesting. Who knows but it might be a story that kind of pops up in the near future Yeah, but just nobody wants to hear that from mad love like yeah It's like bill cosby screaming from his jail cell that he's getting done wrong like nobody gives it nobody gives a fuck Yeah, yeah, nobody care r kelly. Nobody cares. There's certain people harvey wants to nobody care. It's probably still alive That chloroquine bro that hydrochloroquine dog. Yeah, last we heard he had corona and you hit shit out I think he hydrochloroquined it man I really do I think that hydrochloroquine got him back harvey's back bro Now he's in prison. Is he? Yeah, he's definitely locked up. He didn't get that early six nine release for the corona He ain't get the early six nine release. He actually went super quiet like which lets me believe that he's probably Going to sneak out of jail sooner than later Yo, did you see what a fucking bitch six nine was acting like this week about the whole billboard thing? I did see that There is nothing There is nothing less likeable than the funny guy taking shit serious. I hate it donnell roland's you punk ass Fucking donnell roland's sensitive ass You killed him this week, bro. You killed him this week. Where's the I need I need everybody out there to play the clip, bro With the audio fuck us up, you know the instagram shit that you played the post. Oh, yeah No, what was so funny is because I said on brilliant idiots what my what my strategy is with donnell, right? And so when I posted that clip Everybody in the comments Was crying laughing because they know I didn't get him give him credit And sitting there sitting there watching I was watching donnell all weekend anybody who would post it Shade room little duval Like anybody who would post that he would be under the comments like waving like It was me like me like nobody fucking sees you You fucking grady from sanford and son looking mother fucker. Nobody sees you. You're sensitive ass. He texted me. He goes well played He texted me then he then he tried to he tried to fist, right? He texted me. He goes well played He goes but you know, nobody on your page liked it except for my brother. I said actually it's got 499,000 likes that's a lot of likes, bro And probably more now and like 45 hundred comments But then I go but it's really ripping on shade room and I sent him the shade room link and he goes Now I know that I can just bypass you and go right to the source And then I text him back. I said bro. Just send me more stuff so I can never give you credit for it Oh So I know he was tight because uh He posted on my video He I didn't know he he texted me that but I didn't know what he was saying He was like he was like, you know, andrew was right about you if you ever run for politics I'm voting for you because you're so manipulative. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about now? I remember so I did the video that the tekashi and trump are the same and the reason why that thank you man, I'm the tibally fucking brilliant. Thank you and um Under it. He had like three comments. He was like, yo, this is dope But we want to know what's up with that bet between charlamagne six nine Multiple times person. I told I told don't know this what you said you said you started out this conversation by saying It's nothing worse than the funny guy Who takes it too serious? Yeah Don't know. I don't even find don't know funny anymore. No, come on don't else funny, bro Shoes i'ma tell you why it's like finding out your favorite gangster rapper not a gangster. Yo, he's too Fucking sensitive. He cannot he he can't take a joke. Nah, don't know. I'm telling you motherfucker. Yo He is but I personally don't find him funny anymore. That's the most brilliant. That's the most brilliant idea sentence ever Yo, he's a funny motherfucker. He is he is but I don't find him funny It's like a rapper right like a gangster rapper. He's spitting that shit And you like, yo, that's shit hard, but there ain't nothing he's talking about real Yeah, yeah, it just it just dilutes it a little bit for you, man. That's it I saw don't know don't know he changed his twitter handle to ashy the god And like like he'll leave little comments like people will be in the comments And they'll be like charlemagne's better than you at radio better into your podcast He'll say little shit like yo, he was an intern when I was doing morning radio Oh, I saw this morning. He posted um he posted uh Yeah, I think this might be the beginning of my new morning show. We need options It's time it's time for change Fucking grady from sanford and sunface motherfucker you sensitive ass. I'm never giving you a good interview If you ever decide to come to breakfast club again, I'm gonna it's gonna be worse Mmm. I'm I'm never I'm never taking you serious. It's never happening. So you're gonna treat him like jimmy kimmel treats matt damon always really Why not? By the way, don't you love kimmel and damon's relationship? Yeah And then I don't know like he'll do like he's he sent me a post This is great. He sent me a DM. He didn't leave the house, bro You He sent me a DM two days ago, right? And it's an old DM because you know, he's always living in the past So it's an old DM of him Chappelle It's him chappelle And some other people on stage, right? And he's gonna send the DM to me talking about This is what real friendship looks like at seed of god Well, if you don't get your sensitive ass out of here, let me get the fuck out of here with this corny shit, yo How do you got time for this shit you a fucking grown ass 97 year old man time for this shit you on, bro I hate shit like that I take these fucking jokes And get the fuck out of here You I don't like that. I got too many comedian friends. Andrew. I don't like sensitive comedian friends. Yo, I'm gonna be honest with you I'll pull the the veil back a little bit and uh with comics I thought when I first got into comedy Did comics were like athletes where it was just like you just bust balls the whole time Right, that's really what I thought it was and like you just say ruthless shit to each other because that's what we would do We're playing ball We just fucking say whatever we possibly could to make you feel like shit and it's funny And that's what you do growing up when you play sports, right? And I remember when I first got into comedy and kind of like busting balls with some comics And if you hit the wrong chord Like these are some damaged motherfuckers, bro Well, I don't know what chord I hit with done now, but I'm gonna keep hitting all of them I'm just gonna start playing this goddamn Because I'm tired I'm tired of getting phone calls with motherfuckers saying to me yo I thought you and Donnell be playing. I said I'm playing Right Donnell serious Yeah, and and I don't know. I think Donnell is fucking around but you you you have a closer relationship with him that he put I think he's fucking around. No, you don't see my text message. Really? He's that serious, bro. He's so Donnell bro Shotes he's so sensitive yo It's it's it's actually sad. Do we need to call him up and do we need to have like a sensitive intervention? No, I want him to keep being sensitive as fuck And I'm gonna keep being out being the asshole because sadly one thing that I have never Been able to fix about myself. Yeah Yeah, it's it's being salt bay in your wounds, baby Your hand is cut off you got to drop it down here. There you go It's I don't know Once I know something I'm doing is fucking with you like when I'm in here. It's hard to stop I'm I'm be honest with you. It's hard to stop yo I understand why people like the mind fuck people when I know I'm living in this rent free It's hard for me to stop especially when you're a comedian You're supposed to be the bully you posted you're supposed to be making me beg for mercy You're not supposed to be on other people's podcasts saying that I go too far And you're a comedian from the 80s. Yeah Like you know what that era was like. Yeah, come on donna I can't speak on behalf of donna But I will say there's a lot of comedians out there that They talk about we should say whatever we want on stage and then you make a joke about them And they're very sensitive about that joke. It's bullshit. It's bullshit. So I'm I'm I'm I'm slightly disappointed I like ruthlessness. I love I love when donnell Seemed to be being very ruthless with the memes and he was just going on me. Uh-huh, but it's like My most basic strategy Is driving them crazy Right and the basic strategy just all right. First of all, I love good content. That's my face So i'ma take it a race your name from it Okay, a racial fucking name from it a racial logo from it and put a nice little witty caption And i'ma get mad likes and followers and it's gonna go viral You and what we'll piss them off about this one. He thought he was slick He started it off with a clip from brilliant idiots Right with me talking about uh six nine and giving six nine fallatio Yeah, yeah for a bet that I won by the way. Yeah, and then at the end He put a clip of himself Oh He thought I wasn't gonna catch that and then what you do circumcision Fuck out of here Fuck out of here donnell Fuck out of here guy Why? How long before you think he puts himself in the middle of the video I don't know but i'm okay. I'm gonna catch it when you gotta plan for it. All right. Listen, I'm gonna catch him when he does I'm gonna catch him when he does I'm gonna catch him when he does. I love it. I just loved watching him scream for help this week I saw him I saw him in one person's comments and he was like Yeah, he's just he needs help with his content son Like no, no, no, no, don't try to nope. Don't try to twist it now, buddy Son Duval reposted it and then he went charl main. Don't you ever do no shit like this again? Donnell was right there in his comments No, look at me. Look at me. I did that. I did that nobody knows. Nobody gives a There's nothing you can do about it Oh, listen, he's steaming right now. Listen to this Donnell, what up, bro? Donnell, I love you brother. We love you dog for real I really do love donnell. I just don't like sensitive people. I don't like that shit not not a sensitive comedian I have empathy For people who can't defend themselves. I have empathy for people who Didn't ask for this type of shit But when you're a comedian and you you can dish it but can't take it I don't respect it. It's like I don't respect radio personalities who can dish it but can't take it If you can talk about people then you you should be Able to be talked about. That's it. I'm consistent with mine. Hmm I'm just I'm consistent. So you'll take the jokes We have we have to I take the jokes. I take the slander. I take the punches to the back of the fucking head I am the wrong person to talk to about any of this shit. I have been swung on For my words Okay, I have been fucking approached because of my jokes from rappers. Whoever helps I don't want to hear that shit from another comedian, bro. Knock it the fuck off. Yeah Um Positively brilliant. I do have to say that piece you did on six nine and donald trump was so fucking brilliant. Thank you It was so smart. It was Hilarious, but it was it was it was a broader commentary of where we're at In our society. Yeah, you know, and it's not necessarily even about the individuals. It's not about trump It's not about six nine. It's the fact that our love of celebrity Are our our value system, which has changed we reward people now with clout and attention That has taken over everything so much so that we have a guy in the white house Because he was a celebrity who knew how to fish for fucking clout in america We're we're living in this age of idiocracy where so fucking dumb and we're so stupid that we can be manipulated to think That is a good idea. Yeah The fact that he's on tv every day the fact that he's in the headlines every day the fact that he's on social media every day Yeah, he would be a good president. Mm-hmm. This shit really has turned into a bad popularity contest. Yeah It really has yeah, yeah Yeah, it was it was a cool. It was a cool piece was cool to see people react to it, man like I feel like I really penetrate it and um Yeah, it's really just interesting the idea that we just want to be entertained at the end of the day And when you want to be entertained, that's what you get when you reward the thing you want That's what you're gonna get if you wanted seriousness all the time you'd have a serious fucking president But we we want to be entertained all the time We want some goofy motherfuckers out there whether it be a rapper or our president saying goofy shit the whole time And we act like we don't like it, but we keep watching so we must love it Yeah, and I think the other thing to take away from what you said for me It's like yo everybody's not qualified for everything. It was a certain part of the uh It was a certain part of of of the rant Basically, we basically uh went through um I basically was like, hey look, it's not just trump, right? You know, or trump is an anomaly. I go trump is an anomaly, you know, like if you're going to critique the country And and and have things to say about the country shoot at least be from here Then you posted john oliver and trump anoa and it was um Uh, it was a few it owes you the idea was Everybody it's it's not crazy that clout puts you in that position and that you don't necessarily need experience You just need clout and we were like all these people that have an alcohol brand that don't know anything about alcohol from dady To connor McGregor none of them know anything about alcohol, but they got clout So we'll drink their alcohol right and we're talking about like you got to be a lawyer to get people out of jail Right and then kim kardashian comes up, right? So it's like all these people are doing these things and they have no expertise in the field whatsoever Because we stop valuing expertise. We value entertainment So the more entertaining you are the more we're gonna put in front of you, man And that's why so many celebrities thought that they could run for president After donald trump hundred percent the rock thinks he can run for president because he drives cars fast. That's wack Like that's like honestly, that's wack like the that means the bar is so fucking low That's why I maintain that They have to change the laws For how you're able to be president meaning that you have to have some type of experience in politics Like it makes no sense like you have to have experience in politics That's the highest seat in the fucking land You should not be able to just walk in and say you want to run for president Just because you have money just because you have somebody back in your campaign like no man You should you should have had to have been mayor Yeah governor You know served on the senate a senator something like you had to have some type of qualifications You can't be an executive producer celebrity apprentice. And by the way, there is no when you when people have used to ask me Well, what about opera? No There's nobody you can't even make it a black or white thing. There's nobody black You could come to me with who was not a politician, right that I would say yes, they should Run the fucking white house. Yeah. No, no, that's not how this shit works, man It's not how it works. Like I even saw hollywood unlocked To the point you made in the video and I love hollywood unlocks with my god jason lee They put up a post and it said the white house Is allowing one person to speak to trump on behalf of the black community Who would you choose to take this on they have eight people, right? Yeah Number one rachel dole is all shawlamain the god close very close very close, right? number two amanda sales number three kyleen cavernic number four kim kardashian Number five kanye west Number six angela rye Number seven don lemon number eight 50 fucking saint Ask me who on this list what I want to speak on behalf of the black community who Two people on this list everybody else can get the fuck out of here Amanda sales and angela rye Okay, okay Nobody else on this list should be sitting down having a conversation with donald trump on behalf of the black community Why is it that you believe only lightskin black women deserve an opinion? Well, that's on this list if nina turner was on this list I would say and by the way nina turner is not on this list But that's somebody who I would send to go talk on behalf of the black community. Right. You know why senator Nina turner, right? Beautiful dog skin black woman, right? I'm teasing obviously. I know but uh, yeah, but she she's a senator She knows policy. She knows legislation and she knows the black community Now there's not one person who can speak on behalf of the black community because black people are not monolithic but my whole point is You know what? I gotta take off. I'm about to take all of this back because there's one thing That makes everybody on this list qualified They're black No, we're talking to fucking trump We're talking to the former executive producer celebrity apprentice Can all you all he understands is the kind of conversation we would bring can I Can I make a point because I've thought about this a little bit which is um, Especially with everything going on with corona I think that what's been exposed with corona is that experts in their field aren't necessarily the best communicators of their expertise right so A doctor my buddy was telling me he works for an mba team and he asked the doctor He goes, okay, what's up with the player's ankle and the doctor as well He has a fusion of the joint blah blah blah and my buddy's like, well, what is that? He goes, I said it was a sprained ankle He goes, so why the fuck you tell me it was a sprained ankle because experts work Uh work within their vacuum, right? Yeah communicators are experts at communication And one thing that we've gotten from corona is a lot of confusing information is like does a mask work Does a mask not work? What can you use your shirt as a mask? No, there's only one mask. There's so much confusing information that's going on I think what will come out of this is somebody that is a professional communicator for the medical field and that's where I feel like the people that you listed have a lot of value to trump or whoever the president is because you guys are master communicators So it's like you might have a feeling as a black person, right? but if you can't accurately communicate that to A white guy an asian guy, whoever the fuck you're even black people That feeling doesn't have as much value on the marketplace. Does that make sense? Right? No, you're absolutely right That's why any president other than trump. That's why I would sin I would send angela rye. You could send angela. You could send whoever but like for me I'm actually For me I'm actually having you sit down with the black economists that talk about the things happen in the black community And then the economists tell you these things and then you go, okay bet I know how to make it digestible to the people you feel me I would bring the economists with me Because one thing I hate to do is explain smart shit What you know how to make shit digestible, right? The economists are going to make it fucking boring Like one of the valuable things about a guy like malcolm gladwell is he could take boring shit That's information that everybody knows some like pop science if you will and then he can make it digestible for guys like me and you Right, I've read all those reports like everything that gladwell talks about I learned in psych 101 in school Right, like literally every single study. He references all that shit psych 101 and anybody listen right now to add psych 101 They heard them all as well But he finds a fun exciting way to repackage these studies I agree with you But what you're talking about is communication to The regular everyday person if i'm going to the white house to talk to a president fair enough you need the experts there Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, not not trump though trump is an exception to this rule doesn't matter Any president doesn't matter, but if I was going to talk to barack obama are Who's another president who had a very high IQ that was on record having a high IQ, um, george bush Okay, um But you know what i mean abraham lincoln smart guy, okay Yes, i would take i would take other well educated smart people because they speak the same language. How about this? You're actually there as the communication device of the president So really the economists come in and they sit down with you and the president And then afterwards you and the president go, okay, how do we want to communicate this message? It's no different than like what happens here in my business It's like we create a piece of content, right? And then me mark and alex will sit down with like what is the best way to communicate the title of this to make it The most attractive. What's the best picture we should use? What is the best way to like put together a narrative around this? And I feel like if you're a person that's done media, especially radio, you understand the crafting of narratives Right. Yeah, so it's like, okay trump or let's say it's abraham lincoln is sitting down with you You know, probably wouldn't be happening, but That'd be amazing But they basically like, okay, how do we how do we get the most people to understand this? FDR goes, okay, we want to get into world war two charlemagne How do we get all these germans and irish americans? Sorry, german and italian americans to support america when we're gonna be going to war against their cousins charlemagne How do we fucking do that shit? Yeah, I you know, I listen I agree with you for the most part. It's weird, right when you're creating shit because I don't ever want to create anything And and and it has to it's not dumbing it down dumbing it down is not the right word But sometimes you when people say things to you like for example I'm writing a new book and it's a certain chapter in the book that I wrote and they was like, well, can you um Can you can you broaden it out the women as well? And I'm like, no I can't sometimes you got to speak to who you got to speak to exactly. I'm talking to black men in this moment Like I'm just I'm not broadening this out For women. This is not about women, but I can guarantee you this. Yep women Will read that and give it to their boyfriends They'll they'll read that and say did you see what charlemagne said he does with his wife? I don't like to preach to people. I don't think that you should preach to people I think that you should tell people your experiences And what works for you and why you think it works for you And get the fuck out the way bro You can recommend it and say I think that you should this is something I think you should do because this worked for me We we always talk about this, right? It's like we know how to create content that's going to have the most overall gravity Right, we know like the formula of a piece that's going to bring the most people in right But that might not be the authentic thing that we want to create and we want to share Right So it's like I feel like what you're saying is you got to put pieces out That gravitate the people that you're speaking to Right and if the piece is quality and the piece is good Those people will find out about it Right, absolutely If you're true to yourself and you're authentic and you're feeling and who you're speaking If the gravity will be strong within that we can all make a video where some fat person falls and then like a pizza falls And then their hair lights on fire that's going to get a zillion views on youtube a zillion views on facebook, etc But maybe you don't want to speak to a zillion people Maybe you got a specific group that you want to tap into Yes, and you will do that if you speak authentically and intelligently to them To to to your because all i'm doing is speaking authentically and intelligently to my experiences. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah That's by the way, that's all I got I try to tell people that all the time like all the person has is their pov Their perspective one of the illest things me and mackin glad well ever talked about and I think you might have said it on Brain in his podcast, right? But he was like, yo, I asked him how much of you know, his old rhetoric does he still believe right and he was like Probably none of it. Yeah, and I was like what like that shit broke my heart until he explained he was like That's where I was when I wrote that book, right Me personally I've elevated to a different level of consciousness. I have a different level of information So i'm on something else like mackin glad was latest work that he presented to us was talking to strangers Which was an amazing read, right? It's not that he doesn't believe in what he wrote in the outliers anymore or what he wrote in david gillife anymore It's just that his information has evolved So he's on something else, but guess what the beautiful thing about books is All of those books will impact somebody where they are at some point in their life If you're a 20 year old and you go read the outliers It's going to hit you the way it hit me when I read it back in the day Doesn't matter if if mackam doesn't feel like that anymore, right information will still meet you where you are At whatever stage you're at in your life. Yeah, yeah You know what I mean 100 because that's because mackam wrote from his experiences, right now imagine if mackam Imagine if mackam was the type of person who? Didn't acquire any new information didn't you know learn anything new and said to himself Well, fuck it the book company just wanted other outliers. I know how to get people in right I gave you 10,000 hours last time. Let me give you 20,000 this time That shit ain't gonna work and it doesn't work We see it happen all the time right where they're like they force in a narrative They force in a narrative for the women watching they force in a diversity, right? But the diversity doesn't reflect the culture it just reflects the color Right. Robert green. Robert green wrote a book called the mastery. Okay um It's called it was called the male's the mastery and basically the mastery was the outliers And I know and I love Robert green as an author right, but I know that he would probably Hear it isn't think different, but mastery was basically instead of 10,000 I was it was like 20,000 or 30,000 It was a certain amount of hours where you become a master at something and I'm like I read this already right, you know I mean, so he just he basically Took that concept and had his own perspective to it. Yeah, but I wasn't really interested There's a there's a saying People don't have ideas ideas have people and uh Yeah, Malcolm Gladwell did not invent the idea of working a long time at something and then you get better at it Hmm, right. He just Had the best phrase for it the 10,000 hour rule, right? Yes And sometimes when you market something the best it becomes synonymous with what you are Hey, pass me a Kleenex. That should ain't a Kleenex. That's the brand Absolutely, you know what I mean, so Tissue tissue already existed exact tissue been around Right, so Yeah, that should happen But that's the beauty of marketing man And that's the beauty of like getting your message out in the most clear way possible Is that you could fucking own the space and you could own that message for a little bit of time in history I bet a hundred years ago. There was some other guy like yo work really hard at something for this many hours. You're gonna get it You know what I mean like tesla nicola tesla was a fucking scientist, bro. Now. It's an electric car shit changes Bro, that's the only constant in life, right The only cause the only constant in life is fucking change and the right message though will continue like Listen, I've read parts of the bible, right? There's a reason why These stories continue to be passed down throughout history, man Is because there's some fucking there's some slappers in there, bro Yeah, I was I was using Noah this week. What'd you say? I was saying how you know In a way Noah was fucking quarantined, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And his family and then penguins he might have been fucking they was all in that goddamn arc Yeah, and they and and and when they finally parked. Yeah. No, it didn't just rush out that arc. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Noah sent a goddamn raven. Yeah And then he sent a motherfucking dove And when the dove came back with some grass in his mouth Noah realized, okay the water must have fucking Uh receded and we're ready to go and we're ready to get back out there That's how I feel about this quarantine shit. So you're gonna let some other people dabble I am not a dove beloved Okay, I am not a fucking dove beloved. I am not going out there first I'll let y'all be the dove all you ravens all the ravens are clearly in florida Yeah, those are the dark fucking birds all the dark birds clearly in florida The doves are in california, right? All right, and when the doves fly Then princes and the prince will come When if the when the doves fly when the doves cry whatever the fuck whatever the fuck prince was saying The prince will come. All right That's that But but to your point just to put a button on what we were saying Because I truly agree with this We have gotten to a point in our life where it's a lot of unqualified people Talking about things they're not qualified to talk about Ourselves included we do a podcast our ourselves included, but we call our podcast a brilliant idiots We're not yeah, we're not pretending to be qualified and that is the difference at all Yes, wait what smart dumb shit even when even when they bring me on msnbc cnn whatever whatever i'm not up there acting like a political pundit. Yeah, I'm speaking my perspective On how I see the world how I see Politics, yes, that's it. It's not no. I don't have a party I am saying i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm very i'm very, you know Bipartisan. No, what the fuck see I don't know what the fuck i'm talking about bipartisan. Yeah, I'm very bipartisan I don't like you don't I don't care. Yeah. I don't I don't I don't claim republican. I don't claim democrat I am just a person who has an opinion on on life and on politics and you know different social justice issues That's it. I've never claimed to be an expert, you know, you talk to me about mental health Hey, you want to call me a mental health advocate? Cool. I'm only speaking from my experiences and what I've been through That's it. I was looking up, uh, just like the history of news a little bit and um Apparently like back in the day like a long time ago like 1800s man um The publishers of newspapers their political biases were very known Like you you read a newspaper From this guy whoever it was right and you were like, oh, yeah, that's his side He's a democrat or this guy is a republican or whatever it is, right? Like but it was very note. So you looked at the information not as completely unbiased truth and facts, but A newspaper that had this left leading slant that fed this community, right? Something happened. I think in like the 70s where news with bias turned into Hey, here are just the facts And that's the problem like when you have a fox news or cnn going guys, we just do the facts But there's clearly a slant now you're misleading If they just came out they were like, yo, we're the left wing news and fox was like, yo, we're the right wing news It would be okay If they made all the arguments for their people and the same people would watch but at least it wouldn't seem disingenuous I agree with you 100 and I and by the way, that's I watch it all You have to but you have to but I but I have the way with all to know This is left leaning. This is right leaning I I still think that the only place you can get a sense of moderation But I don't even it's been weird since he's been on quarantine bill mar. Yeah, but but that's only because bill mar Has his pov and he brings other people on To express their pov. So all povs are represented Conservatives are represented liberals are represented, you know Uh independence are represented Like all parties are represented and and and I think as long as you do that you're fine Like because it it's impossible to be all things to all people, right? Yeah, and you don't have to right because This is what happened when we started releasing these pieces like the one we were talking about before we released four of them, right? What we realized was Yo, it's the vocal minority like the minority of people on the left and the right that make up What the left and the right think but the majority of us are actually Moderate and I don't even like the word moderate because it sounds so stupid Like nobody defines himself as moderate is your kid handsome. He's moderately handsome. Like it's just stupid, right? Like I call myself medium ugly I'm right down the middle. I think I'm right down the line But the reality is right. We're all medium ugly or medium cute, right? We're just we're right in the middle So like when we started doing these pieces the idea was yo there is no political slam We are writing the funnest the funniest piece and taking the funniest angle And giving some truth in that regardless if it if it slants left or right It doesn't matter and what we realize is when you do that you actually don't Move to the left or right that much you stay in the middle Which most people are and the craziest things happen is we have both sides Right, we have both sides commenting and enjoying the pieces because they feel reflected in the piece Because they're actually not that extreme left or right in the first place The best part about people in the middle is that I think that people in the middle are willing to think They're willing to change their mind I think that's why that's why hypothetical swing voters are so important because you could say something You could give them some bit of information that might actually sway them either to the left or to the right I think what you do in those pieces is like if you're a thinking person You got to watch that and be like That's pretty accurate. That's it if if you know both parties if you're willing to accept the reality And I think most people are rational most people are reasonable Especially if you listen to this podcast like over the last five years We've probably been the most truly honest about every single issue, you know for better for worse, but like literally I don't know on a major platform anybody who's been as honest as us the conversations We've had about like really harsh fucking topics to our own detriment for a hundred percent It's just it's just the reality of it bro It's it's so cool like just create a piece and like To be honest like we're in this cool position where There are people on the right the fuck with me There are people on the left the fuck with me so that when we create the piece You know, it's authentic when somebody on the daily show makes a piece anybody on the right is like Okay, here comes the slander of us when snl makes a piece anybody on the right Is that here comes the slander of us right bill maher is a little bit more to the middle But he's still not fully to the middle so we just We just entered this space with confidence from both sides and then everybody going. Oh, shit. Yeah, this is reasonable Oh, we are not that far apart. It is not that fucking extreme That's why I love and you don't see it too often, but I love personalities We're not afraid to change them up. Boom You know I'm saying like if I got a guest on and me and a guest are talking and we're debating And a guest says something that makes me think or makes me actually change my opinion I don't have a problem saying that. Mm-hmm. I mean, that's healthy conversation. Yeah, so we live in we live in this era Once again social media. It's all about the cloud. It's all about the attention. You got a debate It got to be a versus it got to be a fight. You know, I mean it got to be me versus them Us versus day like fuck all of that like let's have a conversation because and and and I don't care what nobody said if you're sitting down with a very Intelligent person or you're sitting down with somebody who has different experiences than you You should walk away learn or something Whether you agree with it or not, right? You should have just learned Something fucking new like yeah, it's if you're sitting down talking to people and like You don't feel like that person made a point You you're wasting your time like you wasted whatever time you wasted whatever conversation you was having. Yeah I don't feel like there's nobody you should talk to who doesn't have at least one point Now if you're sitting down just to argue with people Yeah, you're gonna walk away say that motherfucker. They know what he was talking about Had no point. But if you're sitting down to actually sit down to have a conversation with somebody in exchange ideas You should walk away feeling like you learned something. Yeah, I agree or else you kind of wasted some time I'm gonna I'm gonna go take a piss and then um knock out some uh Wait, did we deep dive? Was that the deep dive? I think that was the deep dive We can come back and do fucking uh, shit you won't care about next week. Let me go back Me too. All right. We got any church announcement shows Actually weirdly. Yeah Okay, talk to me Well, when we put out those uh The rants that we've been doing we just call the show Schultz every saturday. So you checked out on my instagram or youtube or all those things, but um But yeah, i'm doing a show in uh fargo north dakota But not till october but the tickets went on sale today. So yesterday by the time you guys are listening to this and um So if you're in fargo, I believe it's fargo Yeah, we're gonna do it and we're starting to like release some Tickets for shows that are gonna happen in fall. I'm ready to get back out there, man And also if there's a comedy club that's open, you know next month. I'm down to come and support You know, I want to I want to reward the people who are willing to you know, open back up Let's crack this bitch back open. Let's get back on stage, man We got to get back to a normal life sooner or later. I think it's important Uh, are you gonna um call your next tour mask on or mask off? Oh mask off man future We're not playing games mask off. Okay. Mm-hmm. All right 100% Listen, uh, I don't have no fucking treasure now because I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing when this shit is over But um, shit you won't care about next week Well, you know what go yeah, go to my youtube page youtube.com backslash c to god cth Hey, what is your room and gonna do it all is youtube father? So, uh, he's keeping the clips channel my understanding and then the video will go to spotify but Uh, they'll continue to put clips up on the youtube page. So is he allowed to put clips up on the youtube page? Yeah, yeah, that's what he was saying and I think that that's actually great because it's promo It's like the clips channel is promo like we got a clips channel brilliant idiots clips. You can go youtube right now That's where the tzakashi thing with charlotte Is up but like for me the way I look at the clips channel is that's for the casual fan That's for someone who they might fuck with me or they might fuck with you independently and then they're like, oh Shit, they do a podcast together. Oh shit. These are kind of dope All right, where's the full episode and then you go to the regular channel So I look at the clips channel like, you know billboards on the highway Let's put as many of those as we possibly can out all throughout youtube. So if I'm spotify I'm like, please keep doing the clips pretty please because that's free promo for us Yeah, I mean for somebody like rogan if you do a three-hour podcast 15 minutes ain't shit 20 minutes ain't shit to give away Even if you gave away all three hours in clips Eventually people are like, all right, bro. I want to just have one place. I could watch it I don't want to be bouncing in between clips and then searching for the next one on youtube because it might not be the next one That comes out You know, like yeah, I mean, that makes sense because I uh joe budden does that so that makes sense, right? right, so Yeah, I think you don't care. You say what I just think it's great. I just think it, you know I think it's great But should you won't care about next week? What you thinking bro? Uh, paul pierce said lebron james is not a top five NBA player of all time I mean, all right paul. I mean, I don't You know paul pierce was so good as a player and he's the perfect example of Like when you become so unlikable as as like a commentator How it can tarnish your legacy as a player Like people forget about that like who you are after you know what i'm saying like who you are after You know what i'm saying like like kenny smith was a mediocre player But since he's so famous as a broadcaster in his post career, you think that he carried the rockets to them championships He got two rings. He's uh He was he why kenny can you hall of fama not even close Not even i'm not talking about stat wise. I'm saying is he he's a hall of fame broadcaster But not even oh no, no, no, he's not uh, no, he's not hall of fame But we look at his career through rose colored glasses because of how amazing his post career has been Whereas like you look at like a kareem abdul jabbar and apparently You know not that many people like him apparently. He's a dick. I've never met him So I can't say but apparently he's a dick and I think because of that It tarnishes his right his reputation a bit as a player because he was unstoppable Yeah, you can't call me a dick when i'm 97 I don't I don't like that like don't do that to people like that kareem abdul jabbar is about to be 103 years old. You can't call him a dick. He's just old. Yeah. Yeah, ain't got time for your bullshit Like think think think about that your kareem abdul jabbar, right? Yeah, you've been alive Six centuries at least yeah, right and you got motherfuckers running up. Do you want to take selfies? Number one, you don't know what the fuck the selfie is. Yeah number two. You're tall as shit So people are doing like this Time for that shit your fucking back hurt, you know, you don't play 37 NBA seasons Don't call girl. Don't say kareem is a dick. He's old. He ain't got time for your shit He's earned the right to be a curmudgeon That's the problem with black don't crack is that you might see a black dude being a dick and you don't realize he's old Word up and guess what if you meet an old black person or old white person and they're not being a dick It's because they can't hear you Exactly they would they would be a dick if they knew what you were saying exactly Yeah, so that's all i think i just think it's his post career is like really gonna tarnish how fucking amazing He was he was amazing paul pierce He was amazing to those lakers series when he was going at kobe giving kobe to fucking work By the way, i'm not mad if you don't pull the brunt on your top five though It's not crazy I do but it's not crazy It's not it's not i mean i don't even know who is top five is i would have to look at you who is top five is But it's not like A nut ass take to me. You know i'm saying usually you you probably You don't put people on your top five that that you've beaten You know i mean like It's hard to put someone on your top five that you've beaten personally because you're like well shit If he's on the top five where the fuck am i i beat him? Yeah, if you can put it like this you can't be um You can't be more outraged at paul pierce didn't put Lebron on his top five But not be outraged if bill lambira is there thomas says michael's not the greatest basketball player Right, right because they were they were giving michael to work. Yeah, everybody everybody has to take i'm not mad at that Like yeah, shit if i'm being objective I'll put lebron on my top five, but if you ask me personally I'm not sure i would yeah My top five is michael jordan koby bryant rest god bless the dead magic johnson chicaylo nill and alan overson, but that's just my personal Top five now i'm sure some people will look at some of those people i put in there And they might have two of them in their top five three of them some might have one But for me personally that's my personal top five greatest players i've ever seen This is my top five and i i haven't seen some of these guys play extensively so it's hard It's almost like a bullshit take in a lot of ways, but like Uh, i gotta go michael jordan i gotta go uh lebron james um I gotta go Bill russell just because he's the most winning you know, he's the winningness player of all time um I guess koby's in there Maybe koby's in there. Gotta put koby in there, bro. Yeah, I was never a big koby guy I was never a big koby guy then I thought he was cool, but I was never a big koby guy I understood he was great, but he didn't do it for me The mj doc makes me appreciate koby more say again The mj doc makes me appreciate because you see mj in koby Yeah, and and for you to be able to emulate michael jordan And do it as well as koby brian did yeah, yeah, he was great. He was all time. He was he's he's he's he's great I probably have to put magic or bird in there, man You got to yeah, I think that's probably it's gonna be like jordan bill russell brawn magic bird I think that's probably top five for me and i'm not mad at none of that Like none of that shit makes me like oh shit. Nah, like no, that's like all right. Yeah It's tricky, man. It's tricky and lebron gotta he gotta listen lebron is already a legend He's a goat can't take none of that away from him. You know what i'm saying? But if paul pierce don't want him in his top five It's not the craziest thing. Yeah, it's not the craziest thing. It's just kind of wild though like Paul pierce is in nobody's top five. Yeah That's the only that's that's gonna be the counter argument. Yeah, but but that doesn't matter. He's still a basketball player A basketball fan if you ask him that question, he has the right to rank it. Yeah, um Things you won't care about next week. Horace Grant said that the mj doc is not accurate He said that uh michael lied About the fact that Horace Grant leaked information to sam smith in the jordan rules book He also said that uh michael edited the documentary To make it seem like You know, nobody ever pushed back against him nobody ever stepped to him and he was like michael stepped to me a couple times And i'll push back and he said michael's just holding a grudge With this documentary He said he said when you he said if you say something about michael He's gonna cut you off. He's gonna try to destroy your character All of this seems completely reasonable after watching the documentary I mean, do you think otherwise? Do you think it's possible he would hold a grudge like I I think that I think Horace might have been a little I mean, I listened to the interview that he did. Uh, it was a phone interview I think Horace might have been a little off only because Horace did get to Express his perspective in the documentary or it did get to tell us that I never fucking gave the information to sam smith I would never do that. It's not like that wasn't In the doc Maybe they cut out. Maybe they cut out times where Horace was like, I mean, yeah He you know jordan walked over the people to let him walk up walk over him Or that allowed jordan to walk over them whoever that sentence is structured Maybe but like he didn't walk over me, you know, I punched him right back in the face blah blah blah Maybe but even even with that when you say, um You know, and he says things like oh, you know, jordan only I think Horace said something to the fact of jordan only showed you You know people that You know, he could push over basically all that punching people in the face. I was unnecessary, but i'm like He didn't have to tell those stories. He'd have to tell you that steve curt punched him in the chest Yeah, you know what i'm saying? Yeah I mean like I don't think jordan made himself to be a hero in this movie. It wasn't like dr Dragan and w a move he didn't care to be a hero He actually was fine being the villain He just wanted motherfuckers to know what he did to win those championships and how different he was Than everyone else. He is different than lebron. That's right. That's right And I thought that was effective and at the end of the day if you win We can forgive you for being an asshole Winning will make you forgive everything if you're a loser and you're an asshole you're chris paul Right. Nobody wants to play with them. You're not good enough to be a dick Jordan was good enough to be a dick Jordan was good enough to punch you in the face and you still show up to practice next day like yo, my bad Mike next time i'm gonna try to avoid your fist You know, I I get it like I don't know. I mean listen and by the way horris grand was there So, you know if horris grand says something that shit wasn't real you gotta listen Right. Yeah, horris allows to have his opinion too. We just don't care about it because you never won without mike We don't give how many rings you win without mike horse Salute to the og horris grant don't nobody give up one without mike say what he was on the he got a ring with the lakers Oh, he didn't horse grant Pretty sure the year that they played philly. I was just watching one of the games I forgot about it, but he was on the lakers that year my bad. All right, so you got one without mike Maybe you know, I gotta look that up first Let's make sure Because I remember I don't remember me. I don't remember horris playing for me. I didn't remember it either Alex just looked it up. Oh, no, he did. He did 2001. Alex hooked it up. He said Yeah, 91 92 93 and 01. Yeah All right, let's salute the horris grant. Um things you won't give a fuck about next week What else you think what else we got in here? We talked about the cost you wanted to expose billboard nobody gave a fuck I mean, is that is that true? Like how does that work? What are your thoughts on that? Basically tukatsu is saying that like Did ariana grande and jesson beaver purchased their streams like on six credit cards or something like that at the last minute And beaver and ariana grande We're basically saying no, we just hold our numbers until the day before and then we present them to billboard So it looked like it was all last minute, but in reality we had them waiting I enjoyed um scuder bronze commentary because scuder brawn is a manager. Yeah I'm always interested in the executive and scuder brawn basically said the same thing He said his strategy. He said they don't release their numbers early in the week They don't give a fuck about projections and all that stuff like that He said they wait But you know, you get you get money for those number ones Like if you get a number one single and stuff like that you get bonuses and all type of stuff Um, but scuder said something I find interesting scuder said that There was an investigation done by billboard right um, but the investigation was uh on a video That was getting six times The bot activity the bot bot activity As other videos and which video was that? I mean it seemed like he was alluding to Uh, young to cash. Whoa Yeah, so I mean that's that was that was more interesting to me But either way right they're both accusing each other of doing the same shit Hmm He's accusing them of manipulating billboard and you know, that was what what scuder said in his post was uh Alluding to the fact that he was manipulating youtube. So who the fuck knows man. Yeah, shit like Cares like I I didn't give a fuck. You know, yeah Yeah, I was just I was just let down by takashi crying like you have to be funny in these moments, bro You have to be funny. That's what we like We like when you're funny We like it when you don't care the reason why we love the breakfast of club video is because it seemed like every rapper that goes on breakfast club Is like either paranoid petrified and then when takashi went on it was like, hey, I don't give a fuck. I'm here I'll say whatever and it was it was interesting to see it's like how could you not be more nervous being on the biggest platform in Music like how could you not be more nervous? And all of a sudden if he came on breakfast club and he was crying Oh, they're trying to get away from me We'd be like man, shut up like we don't care. Well, that's how he was the second time say again That's how he was the second time Hmm. I wonder the second interview. Yeah, the second time was about, you know, how he cut off his crew and Yada yada yada. He's not in that life that type of shit, but Ah, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, but that was also right when they scooped him up, right? So it was like Right, right. Uh, uh, uh, he got scooped up after the day after Yeah, so it's like things were hot right then and we were like, wait, what's going on? What was what exactly happened? I just like his use of the word investigation and what It just sounded dope. What do you say? We launched an investigation. It's like god damn you ain't tired of investigating yet Jesus Christ. You're not tired of being the catalyst for investigations yet Yeah, oh my god Um, let's do some asking idiot. Taylor. What are asking idiot said? Tei tei young chunk We can't hear you. You're not going to come a young chunk try Taylor Scroll down. I'm scrolling. Okay. I see. I'm I see him All right, uh asking idiots asking idiot Uh Let's see. Let's see At Milton says why won't I allow my wife to shave my own head? No, he said why won't I shave my own head or allow my wife to do it? It's not that serious to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm a person that enjoys the barbershop experience I enjoy You know sitting in the barber chair, you know, my dude tie is a beast You know, he makes you feel really at home. He makes you feel comfortable I ingest that is a form of self-care for me. You know what I mean? Uh shaving my own head would feel like work Um, having my wife shave my own head would be torture. Why would I do that to her? You know what I'm saying? Like for what? Like seriously ladies. Taylor answer this question Would you let your boyfriend give you a wax? No Would you let your boyfriend shave your vagina hair off? If I was like pregnant and I couldn't reach it, then yeah Okay, extreme circumstance All right, but just for the hell of it. No, I'll be all right. Is this a fucking haircut? Who cut your head? You say somebody cut your head shows. Did they take proper precautions? Uh, nah, not really Just came over cut my hair. I'm with us my guy alex man. He always cuts my hair and now he's back in town He was in like Uh, Maryland or some shit for the quarantine the second he got back. I was like, yo, we're doing this came out to the studio Bang I'm not mad at him, bro. That feels great. I feel like a new man. Fuck. I'm ready Don't ask me to show I mean because you keep saying how you need a haircut So they're saying why don't you just shave it off? Hmm because I need a haircut Not a self shave. No, that's a good point. Like you have the easiest haircut to administer Like you could have been giving yourself a haircut My head too long at this point. Right, right. What else we got taylor a underscore jackson life 17 says if you had to Delete all but three apps from your smartphone. Which one would you keep? Which ones would you keep? Um, which three? uh instagram youtube Uber Oh um Yeah, I probably keep instagram Instagram uber Shit, that's about it Or like it's either not youtube because youtube you get the podcast and you can get videos But uh, yeah, I need I need content. I need to some way like that's what I'll keep long-term Instagram uber and the podcast app for apple. That's what I was saying. Done Next doctor black falcon says since this is mental health awareness month What are the top five books you would recommend? I would recommend the unapologetic guide to black mental health by dr. Rita walker amazing book um Salute to salute the dr. Rita walker too. She was Sold out like everywhere everywhere online like lat or like the week her book dropped. I think this is the second week Her book came out Um, but you know salute to her grab that unapologetic guide to black mental health Um, I'm reading deepak chopra meta human right now Really really really good read. It's just about how the next level of You know human life the next level of human Evolution will all be about your mental and your emotional and your consciousness and your awareness um Four agreements by doma gary ways. I think that uh those four agreements can really help you Right now with your anxiety um I would get you the seven spiritual laws success by deepak chopra Because law number six definitely could help you if any anxiety you might be feeling or any You know anything you might be going through On the on the on the mental health part anxiety depression Or those four I said four. What would be the fifth one? I don't know the karan Nah karan gonna scare the shit out you Um, I don't know I would go with I would go with those four really I would really just start with the unapologetic guide. Well, I guess I would say shook one shook one. Yeah By shawlamain the god. That's a that's a good one to read doing mental health away in this month. He's pretty good uh live livid impala says No sex or no haircuts for the rest of the year. What you think shochi? Oh No sex You kid me bro We're almost at the end of the year dog. Let's go. I could do no sex at the end of the year. That's easy No sex Come on, dude. Gotta get that fresh haircut though. Gotta get that fresh haircut, man Yo, that's amazing how a fresh haircut will make you feel better than a good piece of pussy. Yeah Because a good piece of pussy is so self-serving like, you know, you have sex and you make love to your significant other And it feels so good. It feels so great But I can't go out into the world with that. No, you can't matter fact You got to wash it right off of you. I got to wash it right off. You know what I'm saying That haircut presents to the world different you get a week you get a week minimum looking glorious You know that after sex glow that's gone in two minutes, bro. You wash that off right in the shower You don't have no hair because you'd be questioning yourself. You're like, why is she why is she having sex with me? Then you get a haircut. You're like, I need to leave her Okay, Stephen A. Shardler Them strokes hit different when you got a little haircut, bro. You feel better about yourself, you know what I'm saying Fuck around and not no haircut. You look in that mirror. You're like, god damn. Why is she letting this old man fuck? This old man Listen, it's the last one. Now. It does says yeah, oh, this is a good one. Who's your favorite celebrity in this coronavirus period My favorite celebrity in the coronavirus period That's a great question, bro That's a great fucking question. Um I don't know you go first I think My favorite celebrity during this coronavirus period It's Stephen A. Smith. Oh, okay I think it's Stephen A. Smith because you know every day I turn on sports center Uh, I mean I turn on first take because I'm looking for A sense of normalcy to life, right? Yeah I'm telling you man What they do on first take is so incredible to me because they find a way to make something out of nothing Like it really is some real live slave cooking going on at god damn first take like they are taking the scraps The bottom of the barrel of shit and still creating Amazing compelling content and Stephen A. Stephen A to me is the catalyst to that. I love max kelliman. Love what he does I love molly. I love when j. Williams is on as a guest. I love, you know, when um Oh, what's the dude name big dude, man? I can't remember his name the football player Oh Yeah, I know you play for the chargers put them all the time. Stephen. They call them a deacon. Oh man Anyway, I'm so mad. I can't remember the brother name, but I just think that what they do is so good, man Like I watched him another day first of all They squeezed all the life out of the last day. There's no more. There's no more toothpaste in that tube Okay, there's no more milk in that carton. Yeah, that shit is done Right. Yeah, but they had a topic the other day where they was like the top five people That michael jordan should be thankful for And it was a steven a-list and steven. It was called steven's a listen He gave his top five and it was so good that I my forgetful ass can remember every person number five He had phil jackson Number four, he had isiah thomas Number three. He had scottie pippin Number two. He had um magic johnson Number one. He had david folk, right? He gave all of these different reasons as why and I was like, okay interesting take Max kellaman comes on there and goes Stephen a that is a stupid list. He said this list is terrible. It's so bad, right? And when max explained why he thought it was so bad what max said made sense max said Michael jordan said he would never play for another coach other than phil jackson, right? And he didn't start winning championships until he got with phil jackson He said that scottie pippin was the greatest teammate that he ever played for and he could never have one those rings without scottie pippin So how the hell our magic johnson and isiah thomas over phil jackson and scottie pippin He said why isn't his father? Number one and he said I even give you that steven a I can understand why the father wouldn't be number one Whatever whatever you probably wouldn't want to put him on that's a given But the list is just terrible and then they had a nice back and forth debate as to why And and neither one of them were wrong to me even though I didn't necessarily agree with steven a smith list like phil jackson scottie pippin would have been one and two to me Right and then three would have been like maybe david fault Four and five like just because your reasoning is is opposition They will you know I'm saying like they were good opposition for jordan and they were the obstacles jordan had to overcome magic in his first championship And then magic made it to where a black man could be a star in the league like that and isiah thomas like I don't give a fuck about But I'm saying all that to say I think steven a is my favorite celebrity in this corona virus pandemic Just because he's so good at what he does that he's able to Constantly make something out of nothing Fucking nothing. I love it. He's incredible. Yeah, our coach signed that one. That's great I mean if you if you manage to make sports content without any sports Whoa, shit. God damn. God bless you Bruh You the fucking man bless you. I mean how much will we listen to like pastors talk if We found out there was no heaven Yeah, I know god, right like you think we'd still go every sunday. That's what steven a smith is doing That's such a good point, right? He's talking about the old shit And that's what pastors would be like not back in the day. We believe bro. That's it was it was dope like Everybody was a good person Because that's why I love bishop tdj because bishop tdj is just good at what he does, right? That's why I love the honorable minister those farrakhan because they just good at what they do Like you can just ask them questions. Yeah, they don't have to be in in religious context Don't have to be about god and they will give you great answers. I have a question The honorable minister farrakhan. What type of gel does he use? Who knows? His hair is amazing, right? I mean not a hair out of place 87 years old not a hair out of place Just turned 87 man. Mm-hmm Just turned 87 years old. Yeah now that now when you look at minister farrakhan, that will make you pick up a Quran There you go that right there That might make me pick up some Murray's wave cream or some shit. That's what it might make me pick up Praise Allah for Murray's Listen, I think I think we got it All right, brother be good my man. Peace guys. Thank you as always if you listen to this podcast You think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right If you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's a brilliant idiot's podcast Thank you for listening