 Good evening everyone. Welcome to tonight's meeting Before we start our meeting as always become a tradition now to allow Our city clerk to read the quote for the week. Madam city clerk. Thank you mayor Be honorable yourself if you wish to associate with honorable people Thank you Call the third regular meeting of the common council order. Please call the roll Boran here bulk Serta Gisha Hannah Heidemann Kittlesen Clowness Manny excuse myer Montemay or Rindflash Ryan Van der Wiel Verhaselt and Wangeman 15 present quorum is present this time. I'd ask all about two leaders in the Pledge of Allegiance. I Pledge allegiance to the flag For which it stands one nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you all about Next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes president Hanna. Thank you, mr. Barrett. I Move that the previous minutes be accepted and placed on file and the same be entered on as read Motion in second to prove the minutes under discussion. There being none who was in famous AI Any opposed motion carries minutes are approved Resignations attorney McLean. Thank you honor Have a letter that the mayor received from Richard Gephardt finance director treasurer Advising that he'll be retiring on June 29th 2007 and he indicates he'd like to thank mayor and Citizens for the opportunity to serve the citizens of the community That's for motion to accept and file Motion in second to accept and file under discussion I would just like to let you know that mr. Gephardt was unable to attend today. He left home not feeling too well From work and I just wanted to thank mr. Gephardt personally and publicly for the great work Super work that he did for 26 years now folks. That's a long time It's a commitment and dedication to an entity such as a city of Sheboygan So I think I speak for all of us on behalf of the entire common council mr. Gephardt. Thank you very much I hope he's watching confirmation of appointments Everybody submit the following appointments for your consideration the special table of organization review committee All the person Hannah Montemayor Boren Sean Rice John Signer and Derek Rupp signed by the mayor That's for motion to confirm Motion in second to confirm under discussion There is none all in favor say aye. Any opposed motion carries Appointments confirmed next item on the agenda is a good item on the agenda presentation of sponsorship Check to the city of Sheboygan by community bank and by community bank and trust for the Esslingen sister city visit On behalf of community bank and trust I'm pleased to present the city of Sheboygan and the mayor's international committee With a check for five thousand dollars to defray some of the expenses for the international dignitaries that are coming to The city and as a reminder, thank you, mr. Romer as a reminder We will be hosting our sister city delegation from Germany come in soon in about a couple of weeks and We got a great schedule planned out, so I hope everyone all of you can join us Thank you, and thank you to a community bank and trust Next item on the agenda is proclamation of public works week and right after that we'll do a proclamation for city clerk's week I don't know how they got together at the same week, but they did I Think they're competing here, but I'd ask with your people, and I don't know who else would he like to pick up Got the right one here Public works these are the people that a lot of times go on notice They're out there in the field cleaning parks fixing streets picking up bleeds cleaning the snow and All that work and sometimes even then they still get yelled at or things like that But they do a tremendous amount of work that most of the time goes unnoticeable And I know it doesn't go unappreciated, but a lot of times it goes unnoticeable and you do an incredible amount of work Mr.. Beeple you've done a great job as acting director. We thank you and your crew for the dedication that you give to city of Sheboygan And in honor of that Proclamation whereas public work services provided in our community or an integral part of our citizens every day's lives and Whereas the support of an understanding and informed citizenry is vital to the efficient operation of public work systems and Programs such as water sewer streets and highways public buildings and solid waste collections And whereas the health safety and comfort of this community greatly depends on these facilities and services and Whereas the quality and effectiveness of these facilities as well as their planning design and Construction is vitally dependent upon the efforts and skill of public work officials And whereas the efficiency of the qualified and dedicated personnel Who staff public works departments is materially influenced by the people's attitude and understanding of the importance of the work to perform? I want Perez declare May 21st as National Public Works Week. Congratulations Thank You mayor for those very kind words and I I can't say enough How proud I am of our public work staff and our employees in our department And I just want to let everyone know while I have the floor this evening real quickly as on Saturday, May 19th We're going to be hosting an open house at our municipal service building from 8 a.m. till noon as well as our wastewater treatment facility on at 33 33 Lakeshore Drive will be providing Tours of the facilities will have equipment on display will have Information about some of the work we do and garbage collection recycling rules and any other types of questions There'll be staff available to answer any questions as well. So we'll have a press release coming out later this week with more details Thank You David appreciate it The next one is city clerk's week and of course again some a lot of the work They do goes unnoticed because they're out there in the offices working hard All of you had a taste of that because guess who put up the who set up the election for all of you The city clerk's office a tremendous amount of work. They do all the law and license and stuff It's just just incredible commitment dedication from a department in the city of Sheboygan And so we really do appreciate you and your staff's hard work and in honor of that proclamation Whereas the city where's the office of the city clerk a time-honored position being one one of the first? Let me start over again Whereas the office of the city clerk a time-honored position being one of the first recognized and documented public servants And whereas the office of the city clerk is a vital part of the local government maintain an official records and documents Records and publishes board meeting board minutes serves as the information center for other governmental agencies and citizens Maintains and oversees the integrity of local state and national elections within the community Insures that all residents have the opportunity to vote and that their vote will count The clerk is responsible for issuing licenses and permits as well as performing a multitude of other responsibilities within our local government And whereas the office of city clerk provides the professional link between the citizens the local governing bodies and agencies of government at other levels And whereas the city clerk is pledged to be ever mindful of their neutrality and impartiality render an equal service to all and Whereas the city clerk continually strives to improve the administration of the affairs of the office of city clerk to participation in education programs seminars workshops and annual meetings of their state county and international professions professional organizations and Where it is it is certainly most appropriate that we recognize the accomplishments of the office city clerk Now therefore I want Perez's mayor declare May 5th as municipal clerks week Sue. Congratulations Well, my point is short and brief my staff may be low in numbers But their energy and their commitment to all of you and making sure that you get what you need when you need it I appreciate them all very much, and I'd like to thank them. They're wonderful And we do have one more recognition Although there is no proclamation because there was late notice to my office But I believe it's national police weeks today cheap next week Okay, and the reason we need to announce it today is because there won't be a meeting until then and it'll be after the fact But again the police department also plays an integral part very important part in the public protection and safety our committee and chief We'd like to thank you and your police officer for the dedication and commitment to our residents appreciate Okay, then next item will be public forum All right first on the list would be Susie Lassard And Susie, can I have you pull your mic up just a little bit and I need your home address, please? Five zero one six Menning Road Sheboygan, Wisconsin Menning And you will have five minutes. Thank you dear mr. Mayor and all council members Thank you so much for allowing me to be back here once again to voice my concerns with an issue That's within our city. I stand before you today to plead for your intervention Regarding the corner of Whedon Creek and South Business Drive Before you are copies of all the correspondence I have initiated and received over the past nine years Some letters along the way may have been misplaced, but for the most part they all sit before you This corner has received many studies Grants that were supposed to have been filed over seven years ago and finding out they were just done recently I am frustrated. I'm annoyed and I'm disappointed This corner has been held hostage long enough It has a city street with a county highway running through it The city must wait for the county yet is is primarily the citizens of Sheboygan Taxpaying residents that travel these roads our police department our fire department Respond to the accidents orange cross responds to the accidents the tow trucks who operate within our city limits Are in Sheboygan? I need our city to implement an intervention In full force for our city I do understand that there is growth to the south of the intersection I understand that a plan must be made to accommodate this growth But what I do not understand is why we cannot implement a temporary solution to the problem as we wait for the permanent plan I ask for a speed limit to be reduced nine years ago. It was done recently This in itself has not been an effective measure You have before you the accidents over a period of time since I last spoke to this council Until mid april ironically There's an accident that involves one of the tenants that in a property that I manage at amanda lane Who has also submitted some ideas regarding this corner? He now became a victim I would like to see minimally a sign up prior to this intersection with a flashing yellow light Warning our travelers of the dangerous intersection ahead I would love to see stop signs on each corner up temporarily until the county has their permanent solution I would like to see something done Something that may stop a bumper of bruise Something that may stop a car from being destroyed and stopping a loss of a life What I do not want to see up on this corner is a memorial to someone's life who was lost Do not let this sit in your committees. That's happened already Please take action now summer is upon us. The traffic is going to be heavier with motorcycles young people warm weather Take a stand as a council in its entirety And make this a safe corner as you enter our city You have the means to make a difference to make this city safer and stronger I'm asking you to put forth your efforts into place and keep the promises that were made when you were all elected I want to thank you once again for your time And I look forward to a favorable response to my request as I will not stop my battle And I will take it wherever and with whomever will help me make a difference for my fine city. Thank you very much Thank you, susie Next would be edward bradley Mr. Bradley, can you give me your home address, please? It's uh 48 27 madson road madson And is that in shabuigan? No, it's in uh, manatee walk manatee walk Okay, and you will have five minutes sir. Thank you Uh, good evening. I'm here. Uh, my name is ed bradley. I'm here to talk about orange cross ambulance service tonight The current president of orange cross Cross's board of directors was out of town and she asked me to brief you At least briefly within five minutes on orange cross ambulance Um Many of us remember yogi bearer, though I know there's a number of younger older persons who probably don't but he was a hall of fame catcher for The new york yankees and also a coach And he always had so many Quaint phrases they became known as barry isms and one of them was uh, I feel like it's deje vu all over again Yes, it was five years ago that I we addressed this issue regarding orange cross and the contract that Orange cross has with the city and the county And I have placed on your desk some information regarding orange cross and some of you are new Board members and I would Encourage you to take a look at it when you get a chance The service we provide to the residents of sheboygan county in part of Of the city of sheboygan in parts of sheboygan county In summary orange cross is a not-for-profit Pre-acute care ambulance service owned jointly by st. Nicholas hospital who was my employer And the aurora healthcare system We operate under our contract to provide these services There's a three-way agreement between the county the city and orange cross We have four stations. We have eight ambulances And operate under the super medical supervision of a board certified emergency medicine trained Physician who happens to also be an emt The contract demands strict response time quality monitoring and reporting to a special committee to monitor our effectiveness We are proud of the fact our record for the past 15 years has been great. Not just good. It's been great Our patient satisfaction level is very high and our paramedic training is second to none Also enclosed in the pack is a copy of a survey that was performed by the lacrosse wisconsin fire department And tri-state ambulance, which is the orange cross of lacrosse the city of lacrosse At your leisure again, I would encourage you to read the summary. It's only I think three or four pages Uh Because it gets to the heart of the issue. You may or may not vote on tonight agenda item 352 a resolution by alderman when flesh authorizing the city fire department to provide ambulance service to the citizens of uh Sheboygan beginning january 1st 08 This obviously the question of the heart is how much money can the fire department bring to the coffers of the city? I'll briefly discuss their projections, but first Uh That same question was also asked in mantel walk and ashkosh at the time that they had private ambulance services Two of the cities are in a survey document that you have And of course they were told that they were going to make a lot of money I can tell you according to this survey that was freely filled out by Leaders in mantel walk and ashkosh mantel walk has lost over 400 000 and ashkosh has lost over 200 000 In terms of the financial projections, I believe some of you have I don't know if everybody has them In packets that were provided by the fire department They estimate that they can make about four hundred and twenty thousand dollars. That's certainly an oppressive number Of course, they are also projecting that the medicare or medicaid discount will only be 15 percent Trust me any health care provider would welcome a medicare or medicaid discount of 15 percent The medicare medicare pays will pay orange cross ambulance approximately medicare and medicaid approximately 50 percent Not 15 percent discount. They will pay them 50 percent of the charges that orange cross Bills to the to the programs and this is not just orange cross hospitals get paid 50 percent and for medicaid we get reimbursed about 30 percent in terms There you go as you evaluate your action I would think i've raised enough substantive questions on the fire department proposal That waving the normal procedure of referring to a committee would not occur I would encourage you frankly to vote against the resolution Because there is a private service in in the city and the county that is providing excellent quality care Our current charges are extremely competitive The city does not pay for any of this unless of course their employees use an ambulance service or they're insured people It's a spectacular example also of city county Joint efforts I guess I would close with another barriers and that was He was famous for saying when you come to a fork in a road take it I would encourage you not to take that fork in a road. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Bradley Next would be tom paneski And tom can you give me your home address please 28 north point drive 28 north point And you'll have five minutes, sir Be less uh your honor council members My name is tom paneski As you know estling in germany our Sister city is sending a delegation of 22 representatives to sheboygan Headed by the lord mayor dr. Eugenzieger To help celebrate the 40th anniversary of our relationship They will be visiting from may 17th to may 21st I am fortunate to be a member of the mayors international committee that is working to make their visit A success and to show off our wonderful sheboygan Let me say i've seen that the community is putting its best foot forward and I wanted to share that with you this evening As you know as you saw earlier tonight the community bank has donated $5,000 to help defray some of the cost Johnsonville is sponsoring an event an evening event at the deland community center Blue harbor has provided rooms at a major discount Gifts are being donated by kohler company roger lam the wild center sargento cheese and johnsonville The acuity is opening its doors for a tour and the old restaurant is putting on a cooking demonstration and lunch I say thank you community Also, thank you to the international committee members your own gene hiddleston franberg dorthy getzler deeter helm mayor your secretary mayor rager mary rager, excuse me tom reman from people to people And trent romer from community bank who has attended many of our meetings and has worked diligently in planning a successful visit To those other individuals who have given time and talent and who I am not aware. I also say thank you The big event is an anniversary banquet music and dancing dinner At blue harbor sunday evening may 20th When you see them or see a delegation of people wandering around either downtown along the riverfront or anywhere Extend a smile and a hearty shabuagan well Thank you. Thank you, tom And then we have earnest kepler Mr. Kepler, can I have your home address, please 25 33 late shore drive shabuagan And you will have five minutes or thank you. Good evening Tonight I am representing the shabuagan county taxpayers alliance It is understood that per the original agenda for tonight's common council meeting There was going to be a request for a suspension of rules motion to bring forth the resolution for passage That would change the ambulance service for the city of shabuagan from the current Private provider orange cross to the public under the fire department It is also understood that this tactic has been rescinded and that now the request for a suspension of rules will not occur Thank you Placing ambulance service as part of the fire department may or may not be justified and perhaps overall beneficial to the city However, by railroading this important decision through the common council this evening Would not have been prudent or proper This would be a dynamic change for the city and it deserves the complete scrutiny of the entire common council Plus citizen input regarding the pros and cons of the cost advantages plus improved service of a system That is already working well in the private sector with orange cross We question the propriety of the method of key city officials soliciting For the original agenda to suspend their rules and vote on a proposed resolution to disengage the city from its association with orange cross And establish a city run ambulance service If the common council sees merit in having our city take over the ambulance service We please request that the issue be discussed in detail By the committee of the whole and that citizen input be allowed If all facts are present and up to date this could be accomplished next week monday may 14th Followed by the common council at its next meeting monday may 21st. Thank you Thank you. Mr. Kepler And last on the list would be susan hart Susan can I have your home address, please 422 clifton Here in shabuigan And you will have five minutes. Thanks. I just had so much fun up here a couple weeks ago. I had to come back Um, no, I know a secret. Maybe you all don't know it But today is my boss's birthday So I'll pay for this tomorrow And thank you susan and thank the public for addressing the common council to tonight um There's always some interesting points that are made by different members of the community and quite frankly alderman That's what makes the city the great city that it is Is having the differences of opinion and perhaps at some point Arriving to some consensus and moving in a positive direction for the city of shabuigan So thank you again to those who addressed the council Next item on the agenda will be mayor's comments. I had originally indicated Two separate sets of comments. I will just address one and that is regarding the departing employees I felt strong enough that and it was important enough for me to point out To the alderman and to the public that is watching that there have been some rumors floating around and Rumors are always going to float around. I've learned that in the last two years But there are some rumors going around that certain people in the city Particularly key departments are leaving the city because of this administration I'm not once have I heard anyone of those individuals that have left tell me that's the reason Not only that I personally asked them if that was the reason and then no offense taken if that was a case I Said no offense. I'm sure the council will feel no offense if that's the case That's not a single one said I am leaving because of this administration I say this too because it somewhat got injected into the last election and it became a little issue They're floating around that people were unhappy With this administration and folks. I'll tell you what if anybody is happy That door's open any time they'd like to come in and talk to me I'm sure the alderman would love to talk to anybody Just recently we had mr. Gephardt leave I know when I became mayor mr. Gephardt indicated earlier that he had talked about it when I was alderman I heard him talk or heard about him talking about it. So things like these have happened Throughout time and it just comes to a point in time when they make that decision mariella's the same thing We have tom holton who left I'll tell you if I could leave for the reason tom holton left I'd leave too because he's he went off to a very nice job and one that really truly makes him happy But I ask you if you hear these rumors Let's let's nip him in the bud And if there's some substance to that let's discuss that because I don't know that that That something like that should be interfering with with our our direction and our discussions and the the daily Operations of the city of sheboygan I will announce to the council and to the public that we are looking at possibly two new hires One for public works director, which has been held temporarily by an acting director And we're looking to possibly hire pretty soon a new assessor That has been held vacant since mariella's left the interviews have been held And it's just a matter of Making a notification of perhaps an offer And opal ad enters is working on the position that pete fulerton had And so that's moving along just fine But I wanted to assure the alderman and the public That if there's any issues With this administration and I refer that specifically to me or issues with this administration referring to the alderman We have an open heart and open mind people all people need to do is come talk to us And whatever is bugging anybody or troubling anybody I think we can sit down and talk rashly and cordially and Civilly so with that, uh, I will move on. Thank you very much hearings we have two hearings tonight We have change of zoning for property located at 1523 colorado court from class neighborhood residential to class urban commercial classification We have the second hearing change of zoning for property located at 617 michigan avenue from class neighborhood residential To class neighborhood office classification. Is there anyone that would like to address the council? Is there anyone that would like to address the council ma'am, please come up And which one are you looking at the colorado court of michigan? Okay, and can I have your name june lala mont and could you spell your last name for me le l l And mo nt Lala mo enti. Oh, okay. Mo enti and june. What is your home address? 1809 south 15th street Okay, go ahead. Okay to the mayor and council I'm speaking about the property owner on business drive in colorado court wanting to change his home From residential to business so we can sell insurance Colorado court is too narrow for a two-way traffic when cars are parked on both sides of the street There is only a yield sign on colorado and 15th street. We would like the neighborhood to stay residential We understand this property can't go back to residential once it has been zoned commercial Thank you Thank you ma'am. Is there anyone else that would like to address the council? Is there anyone else that would like to address the council? President hannah Mr. Mayor, I would like to move to close Second motion and second to close hearings under discussion Allerman kiddleton Thank you, mr. Mayor. I'm just wondering can mr. Sokolowski address that at all that on colorado court Is he able to say? If you'd like so yes, I would make a motion open the floor first Could I make him? I'd like to make a motion to open the floor to mr. Sokolowski motion and second Under discussion All those in favor say aye any opposed motion carries mr. Sokolowski Mayor council good evening Basically what we have here are two hearings this evening the one on colorado court Is in an area that is presently zoned neighborhood residential It is in an area that is Residential all at this time there are no businesses in the neighborhood There is a commercial classification across the street I believe it's the kramer property where the billboards are the large vacant parcel that is directly across the street This was a rezoning that staff had recommended denial for however the plan commission did unanimously vote to Approve the request and so the reason staff had denied it was we just thought that at this point in time To rezone one parcel Was uh a spot instead of an area wasn't the proper thing to do at this point in time So staff is still recommending against the proposal. However the plan commission did recommend approval Okay, thank you We let the boys cars walk out very nice and quietly because in that bond there may be a mayor or an alderman failure on Okay, is there anyone else? Okay, so there was a motion on the floor to close uh hearings they need further discussion Okay, all those in favor say aye Any opposed motion carries hearings are closed Consent agenda three one through three thirteen president hannah Thank you, mr. Mayor and make a motion to accept and file all our o's and accept and adopt all our c's Second motion and second under discussion alderman rainflies Thank you, mr. Mayor I'd like to discuss with the city planning commission item three three The city giving up its rights on the possible Theoretical extension on tail or drive. I guess the rationale behind giving up Why and understand there's no plans of any road be going putting through there right there right now The why are we giving up potential future rights done the future? We really can't predict Anybody from city planning willing to discuss that Uh For that or who trokowski wait hold on you're not a department has I need a motion to open the floor I have no motion on second Motion is second any discussion all in favor say aye Any opposed motion carries, mr. Ocalosca, please Hello again In this particular case what we're after is Recently the city city owns some property just north of the parcel that taylor avenue presently terminates that That property Was recently Had some reservations in it and it was dedicated the council previously Had decided to split that right away and give half the property to Evergreen park and half to maywood so there was a certain section north of the property We're talking about right now that was already given away as far as that right away for the park purposes This evening what we're talking about is a while ago When there was some subdivision of land in that area The city at that point in time reserved the right away just in case taylor would ever extend to the north At this point in time and the council may recall is that there is a Development proposal called taylor point condominiums. It still has to get approval and things like that But their concern is that they can't really move forward with their development if this reservation is right there because that is part of where Some of the condominiums are proposed to run through So this action this evening is in fact Getting rid of that reservation basically in essence allowing for that development and and basically saying that taylor would I mean you could always buy the property back to go ahead and do it and it's just reserved at this point in time It's not dedicated. The city doesn't own it. It's just held in reserve so that if it ever came down We would have the opportunity to purchase it for that purpose Okay, thank you. Okay Thank you. Mr. Kaloski Next we have alderman sarda Thank you, your honor when um, it's appropriate. I would like to pull forward 2633 that deals with the rezoning of property 1523 colorado I'm sorry, which one? Um, 2633 Well, that's okay after the consent 26. I'm sorry again 2633 matters later This one here On the on the consent agenda, uh, there's a light uh, alderman van der wil Thank you, your honor. I'd like to pull item number 32 and ask for a separate vote Alderman 32 and are all by the city planning commission recommending documents to be drawn and passed to sell the property located Name behind south 18th fire station to the shabuagan area school district for the construction of two new houses You'd like to separate vote. Yes And uh, the the reason why i'm asking for a separate vote is because I receive letters and phone calls from citizens In that area that never wanted to land sold and they wanted to see a park go there So so that's why I asked for a separate vote tonight. Okay. I need you to make a motion to accept and file the arrow I'll make a motion to accept and file the arrow Second under discussion If there is none, please call the roll boran bulk Surda gisha hannah Heidemann kittleson clayunas hi meyer montemayor rindflash ryan van der wil no Verhaselt and wankeman 14 eyes 1 no motion carries On the balance of the consent agenda 3 1 to 3 13 Minus 3 2 any further discussion There being on please call the roll bulk Okay, thanks, surda gisha hannah heidemann kittleson clayunas meyer montemayor rindflash ryan van der wil Verhaselt wankeman and boran 15 eyes motion carries alderman Surda you wanted to pull forward 2633 I move 2633 be pulled forward and that the ROD accepted and placed on file There's a motion is there a second Motion in second to put 2633 to accept and file and pass the attach ordinance, okay under discussion Thank you your honor After making that motion, I would ask that the council consider denying the recommendation due to The concerns addressed by the citizen miss lullam on head is explained and also on steve stoccalowski Thank you. I'll miss her alderman rindflash Unless I can inquire if the party that is requesting the ordinance change is present today to discuss their plans Paulette is that the applicant here? Okay, hold on hold on hold on would you like that person to speak alderman rindflash My question would be posed to The person party the question is there a way to work out with the neighbors instead of Possibly ruining the neighborhood if there are other options available Then I need you to make a motion open the floor again also move Motion is second to open the floor always in favor say aye Any opposed motion carries ma'am if you would please come to the podium Would you like to pull the mic just a little bit lower And your name, please song yang and that's tz o n g and then yang yes and your address 2633 white fox drive she boy again. All right go ahead Well, um, if the particular Site is not for a small small office where else you recommend It's a perfect for a life insurance, um an office And I have operated an office in to boy again um in the past seven years and Okay, we got a question from an alderman rindflash Yeah, any questions we stand after sure. Can you discuss what the property currently is used for? The the property is currently used for a residential And it's currently right on the corner of business drive in colorado. Yes So it's telling me possible that it could still be used as a residential property. It could be Alderman born we stay there Thank you your honor Ma'am I notice on in your letter here. It says that there's a shed to be torn down Would all the parking have to be right on the street or would any of your clients be able to pull in Or make an area of that where that shed is for for parking for your clients. That's the that's the plan, but everything will be Under the commercial grade That it's required and I'm planning to make the the shed In front of the shed in the garage to be a Parking space there for my clients Thank you for the alderman serda Thank you. Your honor. I was wondering if Steve stoccolowski could um If he could testify to that that if the property is conducive to off-street parking in terms of I guess building regulations Because at this time when I had inquired with from paulett enders. There was no Parking that was communicated off-street parking at that time. We will Call him up in a minute. Are there any other questions? Okay, ma'am. Thank you very much. Thank you I I would start Alderman serda. Would you like to make a motion open the floor again? So move Motion second open up the floor to mr. Stoccolowski all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed motion carries mr Stoccolowski up front, please. Thank you Right right now the home is a vacant single-family home What they're doing this evening is you write as it sits right now You can't apply you can't even apply for the use that they're asking for asking for a commercial use because of the zoning so in order to Be able to apply to construct and or redevelop the site from a home to a business office They first have to go through this rezoning process. So that's why they're here this evening If it was approved Then it would have to go through the site plan Approval process through the city of shabuigan plan commission They would have to submit a site plan showing parking showing off-street parking things like that I believe right now That they have a garage and I think there's two parking spaces a driveway off the alley That would have about two off-street parking spaces at this point in time So so that's uh at this point. We're not technically looking at the the specific office use What the concern here that the council needs to be aware of is Is this property the right place to change? From the neighborhood residential a single family to a commercial use because technically Even if the applicant something happened and the property got rezoned Any of the uses that are in the urban commercial zone Could now be applied for by the plan commission if that change does indeed happen So sometimes it's not just the initial use. It's the long-term aspect of what could be there in the future Okay, thank you very much All right, excuse me. Oh my ryan. Did you have a question for? Thank you, mr. Mayor Mr. Suclowski if this you know that if this were approved for this purpose um And Being rezoned in the future if somebody else applied for another purpose It would still have to go through all of the committees in order to be approved for that purpose That's correct. And if this purpose right here, it says 85 of their clients will be They'll be visited off-site In the life insurance business. I doubt you would ever have more than two People visit a single life insurance office at the same time. That's my opinion I just don't see where this Could be very disruptive myself is what i'm thinking. Thank you. Thank you, old man ryan Alderman kidlson for mr. Suclowski. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Mayor I just want this to be clear in my mind That once you zone at urban commercial then you're you cannot go back to a residential neighborhood Correct. Is that the property itself? You could at that point in time any of the uses that are in the urban commercial zone And I believe A single family use is a conditional use in the urban commercial zone. So it could actually be in there But what you're doing is you're allowing for Other uses retail professional service like the office Tavern restaurant Other types obviously they would all have to come to the plan commission as far as a change of use or things Like that that would be different. So there might be the opportunity to change that but if it's one Say for example Insurance office and now it's a dental office or something like that Oftentimes that's a similar enough use that they can just get what's called an Permit through the billing inspection department with no formal land use approval So if the use is similar enough then they can get an occupancy permit if it's a major change Major change say for example being from office to tavern or something like that Now we're talking a conditional use permit and it would need to be reviewed again by the plan commission before that change could Be made. Okay. Thank you Okay Thank you, Mr. Sokoloski The we'll take the vote on 26 33 then And an aye vote would be to approve the ordinance and approve the zoning change Okay, please call the roll soda Gisha Hannah Heidemann Excuse me. Thank you. Kittleson Clayunas Meyer Montemayor Rindflash Ryan Vanderwheel For hassled Wongamon Boran And bulk Eight eyes seven nose Motion fells motion carries What is it just need the majority just need the majority. Okay So motion carries it Okay, going back communications and petitions 314 through 316 to be referred Report of officers 2 317 by the director of human resources and labor relations submitting a letter from day cuckuck I think I pronounced that right Asking to rescind his previous letter of resignation as an environmental park director of baywood president hannah Thank you, mr. Mayor And it's really a pleasure to to ask the council to accept and file and rescind the resignation Motion and second any discussion There being none. Yes always a president and and I think for the for the community of of shaborg and it's It's not just having david Stay with us But his wife is a as a beloved teacher at north high. So it's a it's a big win for shaborg Thank you president hannah No more discussion all those in favor say aye Any opposed motion carries. Thank you 318 lies over to june 4th 319 through 3 34 to be referred except Alderman hannah Yes on item 326 Mr. Mayor, I would like to move the file motion and second the file 326 under discussion There being none all in favor say aye any opposed Motion carries on 328. Please note a request has been made by an alderman to refer that to building use committee Also make that notation 328 resolutions introduced 3 335 alderman hannah born clayunas balk In gisha authorizing a transfer of appropriations into 2007 budget President hannah mr. Mayor first. I would like to make a motion to suspend Motion and second suspend. Is there any objection to suspension? They're being on please proceed Then I would like to make a motion to put the ro upon his passage Second motion the second put the resolution upon his passage under discussion There is none. Please call roll Gisha hannah heidemann kittleson clayunas meyer montemayor rindflash ryan fanderwheel for hassled wongamon boron balk and surda 15 eyes motion carries 336 by alderman hannah boron clayunas balk Gisha authorizing the purchase agreement to enter into contract for the purchase of the municipal court software president hannah Thank you, mr. Mayor first. I'd like to make a motion to suspend the rules Motion second to suspend. Is there any objection? There is none. Please proceed I would like to make a motion to put the resolution upon his passage Second motion and second to put 336 upon his passage under discussion Alderman rindflash Thank you, mr. Mayor. I would just like an explanation of the rationale behind Waving the competitive bid process for this project Um Susan and susan is not a department head to I need a motion open the floor Motion second all in favor say aye. Thank you Susan The municipal court when they started out last year had had a program that was Designed by a gentleman who has designed the police software and they wanted it to interface Unfortunately, that's not working out for the municipal court The municipal courts within wisconsin Use a program called tips And the state several years ago gave that this company a grant to develop the software So it's going to meet all the state reporting requirements Um, we've seen some reports. They've sent to us. I So that's why we're asking to not go through a competitive bid process Any other questions attorney McLean Thank you, your honor not a question, but just a comment that Says in public construction. So it's not We're not bound by the public instruction bid laws. This is our local ordinance that provides for waiver of the council for Bidding on certain or entering into certain kind of tracks. So, you know, it's it's appropriate within Our ordinances doesn't violate the state statute or anything like that. Thank you attorney McLean alderman clayton is Thank you, your honor. I also believe it's been being used in many cities Is there a system? So it it's it's been working and it's very compatible. In fact, uh, the The partner municipal court that the state assigned to work with us just left their program to go to tips. So Thank you, Susan. Okay, we've got uh, three thirty six There was a motion to put resolution upon its passage. Please call the roll hannah Heidemann Kittlesen Clioness Meyer montemayor Rinflesh Ryan Vander wheel for hassled wankerman boron bauk serda and geisha 15 eyes motion carries 337 lies over 338 through 342 to be referred the part of committee six 343 to be referred the part of committee seven 344 to be referred ordinances introduced 10 345 through 348 to be referred matters laid over 11 2632 an ro ro number 6080607 by the city plan commission Recommended amendment the zoning for property located at 6 17 michigan avenue from class nr neighborhood residential to no neighborhood office classification alderman montemayor Thank you, your honor. I move to accept and file and the ordinance be put upon its passage Ocean and second under discussion There is none. Please call roll heidemann Kittlesen Clioness Meyer montemayor rinflash Ryan Vander wheel for hassled wankerman boron bauk serda geisha and hannah 15 eyes motion carries to 2656 resolution number 320607 by alderman graff hannah susha boron and clayunas authorizing a transfer of appropriations in the 07 budget president hannah Thank you, mr. Mayor. May I take both 2656 and 2661 together? Please do and I would like to put both resolutions upon his passage Second motion and second to put 2656 and 61 upon their passage under discussion There is none. Please call roll kittlesen clioness Meyer montemayor rinflash ryan Vander wheel for hassled wankerman boron bauk serda geisha hannah and heidemann 15 eyes motion carries Other matters authorized by law 349 will be referred to public works 350 will be referred to special committee on risk management 351 a resolution by alderman hannah authorizing the city of sheboygan office of the mayor to submit an application to the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development for lead based paint hazard control grant funds president hannah Thank you, mr. Mayor Do I need to suspend the rules on this one great? I would put the resolution upon his passage second motion the second to put 351 upon his passage any discussion? There is none. Please call roll clioness Meyer montemayor rinflash ryan Vander wheel for hassled wankerman boron bauk serda geisha hannah heidemann and kittleson 15 eyes motion carries 352 will be referred to committee of the whole 353 will be referred to committee of the whole finance and motor vehicle committee. Please make that notation Next item on the agenda is notice of intent to discharge the finance committee regarding a document listed below Alderman ryan Thank you, your honor. I move that the uh We need a motion excuse me. We need a motion to discharge first. Oh, I make a motion to discharge the uh finance committee of of this matter Motion second any discussion All in favor say aye Any opposed motion carries now accepted. Do we need a suspension of the rules your honor? No. No, I move that the Resolution be put upon its passage Motion in second under discussion There is none all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries Next item on the agenda is uh motion to convene in closed session We're gonna because we're going to go into uh closed session at uh towards the end we're going to do other matters Please refer to the other matters Not the other matters after closed but the other matters that generally we do Okay, attorney McLean 354 is an aroh by the city clerk submitting communication being petitioned from residents in the area of south 20th street and david avenue Regarding the number of traffic accidents at that intersection requesting either a stop or yield sign be installed That will be referred to public protection and safety committee 355 is submitting communication from sharp pacniac and jane davis wood of the harbour center bid Requesting permission to hold an annual family festival in downtown shabuagon on august 18th And requesting that a street be closed a vehicular traffic from ontario to center avenue and then the one block of center avenue To penn avenue from 10 a.m. To 3 p.m. That will be referred to public protection and safety 356 is a communication from jerry festal requesting a no parking here to corner sign On the corner of wedemire street and wilson avenue on both the east corner and the west corner Do the safety concerns in this area of the early learning center that would also go to public protection and safety 357 is communication from connie and ralph worm Stating their concerns regarding the noise pollution and air quality from the junkyard at isner avenue in north 21st street And finally that too will go to public protection and safety 358 is a resolution authorizing the designation of several sites as historic that lies over 359 is submitting a notice and application for judgment of foreclosure and sale in the matter of wells fargo bank na Versus city shabuagon at all and that will be referred to risk management 360 is an aural by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending june 30 2008 and june 30 2009 That will be referred to law and licensing committee 361 is submitting a communication from jeff and sherry jager Requesting the city look at the lot sandwich between the two entrances to king's court that the city purchased from homeowners following the large flood And developing this into a bare bones park area for the south side And that will be referred to public works and and board of parks and forestry commission And now it asks uh president hannah for a motion to convene in closed session need to read that Thank you, mr. Mayor Motion to convene in closed session under the exception provided under section 19 0.851 e for the purpose of deliberating The investing of public funds and conducting other specified public business regarding the grandstay hotel project Where competitive or bargaining reasons require a closed session Second motion and second to go into closed session any discussion All in favor say aye. Aye any opposed? Oh, we need a roll call Hold on. We'll take them back. We need a roll call Please call the roll Meyer Montemay or Okay, rindflash Not here. I Ryan Vander wheel for hassled wangaman foreign bauk Serta gisha hannah Heidemann kittleson Clowness 15 eyes. Thank you Motion carries at this time. I'd ask the public and everyone To excuse us. We will go into closed session behind closed door. Take a two minute break