 Welcome. I'm joined today by McPawn Steven Giordano to discuss a review of the Navy's collateral duties, at least in the NAV admin this week. McPawn, thank you for being here. Oh, thanks for having me, Pastor Burleson. So, McPawn, you took the lead in the review of the Navy's collateral duties. What is the purpose of the review and what has been done so far? Well, let me just put it in context for you. So, Chief of Naval Operations and I have been out having conversations and listening to our sailors out there. And one of the things that have resonated across those conversations is the impact of collateral duties, the other things that our sailors do on a regular basis that may kind of take away from more dedicated effort to the warfighting operational technical competencies of those sailors. So, in hearing those conversations, you kind of ask the question, okay, so what do we do here? And the resounding theme was we need to look at these collateral duties and kind of do a scrub of them and say, what do we need to continuously do today? And what are those other things that, you know, maybe we can just do away with that stuff. All right. Great. So, how will reducing collateral duties improve our warfighting efforts? Well, I think that, you know, any kind of distraction or duty that we remove that will now open up that time and effort in everybody's day to kind of focus on warfighting, that lethality that we talk about, I mean, that's just going to be an effect that takes place. You know, I think that sailors are starting to get a sense of I'm doing too many other things that are not necessarily supporting or related to or that they can put in context with what we ask them to do from a rating technical competency perspective. So, we've got to refocus those efforts and allow them to be those people first. All right. So, McPun, how can sailors further improve on this effort and will additional collateral duties be eliminated? So, I think that this is going to be an all of Navy effort, right? So, as folks read through the NAV admin, they can kind of see that we've already looked at this from a strategic level and said, you know what, there's a couple we can probably eliminate right now. And then there's a number of other ones that we need the operational tactical level sailors to kind of look at and tell us what we should be doing and what we shouldn't be doing. And that's the next phase in all this. So, we'll develop that working group, right? We'll have those type commanders involved in this. The number of fleets will be involved in this. We'll have C components at shore components, so shore operational assignments. So, we look at this holistically and get this thing right. And I'll tell you, you know, feedback is already coming in. And I mean, we've already, you know, we've put the NAV admin out there. We've already done some soundings out there. And sailors are eager. They're excited about this and they're already giving us feedback on it. And I encourage people to keep doing that and we'll put out more information and let you know how to really link to the working group once we get that group defined. All right. So, what's next in the process and what do you hope to achieve? Well, I think what's next is just keep giving us that feedback, right? We'll structure the working group. We'll ask for the, you know, the sailors to provide that input. We'll move forward in it. We'll do a review of all that input that comes in. We'll sit down and go, okay, these can be lined out, right? We can get rid of these. These make sense. These are ones we still need to, you know, kind of focus on. And maybe we can redefine some too, right? And realign some of our efforts there. So, it's going to be, like I said, a really holistic approach to how we look at all these other duties that we ask sailors to perform on a regular basis. And the outcome is yet to be determined, but the ultimate goal in all this is, you know, let's, let's remove these, these other things that we do that are just kind of things we do. We don't necessarily need to call them duties or anything like that. And, and, you know, remove those distractions that will allow us to better focus on war fighting efforts out there. Absolutely. Mick Pond, thank you for being here and answer all the questions. Absolutely pal. It's a pleasure. My pleasure. Readditional details and nav admin 168 slash 17 on NPC. Thank you for watching.