 Yeah, it is private property. I was sort of lost for words like you've seen slaughterhouse footage before Seen animals drowning their own blood You don't care you think it's funny though All dairy cows are slaughtered that's all pretty simple Pretty simple when you explain it like that. I like all dairy cows are slaughtered. So Don't agree mate. So many dairy farmers walking past so it's about um Whether or not whether or not milk is murder I'm saying milk is murder. That's not the the argument is is milk murder So do you know anything about the dairy industry? The industry the industry the process Okay, so what they do is they they get a cow they forcibly impregnate her they put her in a rape rack or Yeah, they put it in a cattle crush so they hold her head Vegans call it a rape right because they basically stick their fist in the cow's anus and then inject her with bull semen to impregnate her Yeah, this is actual this you can look this up if you want I'm scared of cows. Okay, and then when she's pregnant they take her calf away because the calf will drink the milk But they want to keep the milk so the calves if they're a boy sometimes they kill them on there You know really shortly after birth or they raise them for for veal or beef The females will be impregnated to in year after year They'll have their calf taken and they'll take the milk from these animals until they stop producing as Much about four or five years, and then they slaughter those cows for beef Is that with every animal like goats and not everything or just The dairy process for goats is pretty similar to forceful impregnation as well. Yeah, but so My statement here is milk is murder. So all the dairy cows are being slaughtered. That's the point Yeah, I can agree with you that I thought you meant like murderers and like it was a problem for like people But like yeah, that's not fair We had to watch them in in school about like selective breeding as well And that wasn't very pleasant either, but I didn't know they did that So 50% of all the beef in the UK comes from slaughtered dairy cows What do you think about that? It's quite sad, isn't it really? Because you get beefs quite a popular meat as well Yeah, I didn't know I didn't actually know about that and cheese and chocolate and dairy. Yeah So what do you think about the the fact that they take the calves away from the mothers? That that is sad because it's like they have lives too. Yeah, if that makes sense. I know it sounds stupid, but I mean like What yeah, that's not fair are the cup other calves not gonna die if they don't get the right milk and that as well It's more about them not drinking the milk from the mother. So they want the dairy industry want to sell that milk Yeah, I Don't know that puts me off milk a bit. Yeah Yeah, but a lot of people they don't know about the standard practice. No, I didn't know about that I literally when you see things on like punchy file and television It's always like they have like things like on the udders and just milking them They don't show you the slaughterhouse when they know why don't they show you the slaughterhouse? Because it'll put people off buying it and they want to sell So do you agree with the statement? I do. Yeah, let me give you a little card because this is a little challenge You can do it's free vegan challenge and this here is a Dairy is scary. Holly recommend Okay Thank you and you good luck. Take care Thanks for the promotion You want to have a chat mate? Touchy subject you want to debate a vegan You want to have a chat you want to have a debate about milk being murder. Why not slaughterhouses cows dairy cows now? Not ringing any bells. Do you want to have a chat about this dude? Do you want to have a debate about this or just a conversation? I'm just asking people To change my mind. I believe milk is murder We can we haven't had many people wanting to sit down, but it's just a conversation You probably it's probably striking. Look his mind is going ticking over Yeah, let's have a chat. Hey go mate What's your name? I'm joey. I'm Brandon Brandon. Good to meet you. You know, there's actually a dairy show over there UK Dairy Day Yeah, so that's why I'm here Okay. Yeah, so the statement on the table says milk is murder change my mind Do you believe that milk is murder or you oppose that? I oppose that. Yeah, what? No, we dies for milk to be created Really? Yeah, so I'm talking about dairy milk. Yeah from a cow. Yeah. Yeah So what do you think happens to the dairy cows when they can't produce milk anymore? They're probably just Slaughtered and turned into food turned into beef. Yes. Yeah, did you know that? I didn't know either dude till I started to look into this. So I didn't think about that until you said that which is Makes sense. So after about four or five carvings, maybe four or five years They start their milk production starts to decline So it makes more sense than to you know to send them off to kill them for beef. Yeah I mean, it's well if you get cows that are just bred for slaughter for food and it's It's that is murder, but if you think about Dairy cows Being bred for milk and then after they've had how many years because once like Normal cows to the slaughter are fully grown and it's then they're killed, but the dairy cows It's like five or six years before so get dairy cows actually live longer than a normal the normal beef cattle They normal beef cattle slaughtered about 18 to 18 months to two years. Yeah It's a requirement for the dairy industry to slaughter these cows. So that's why I'm saying that milk is actually murder It's a requirement. Yeah, they have to slaughter these cows Otherwise it couldn't be profitable just wouldn't be sustainable They could they couldn't produce dairy at the scale that they are without Slaughtering all of these cows and selling them off for beef. Oh What couldn't they just like take them off somewhere for breeding and you know the breeding millions of these animals into existence Where they all gonna, you know, where are they supposed to keep them? Oh, yeah Yeah, well a lot of people didn't you know, I I don't know whether you know this but Cows have to be pregnant to produce milk. I Didn't know that man. Yeah, I never thought about this, right? I just thought that there was a specific breed of cow that produced milk. So did I yeah But they have to impregnate them over there at that dairy show They've got these big cattle crushes So what they do is they put the the cows head in this cattle crush it keeps them still They stick their fist in the anus to hold the cervix in place Get a pipette full of bullsemen which they've jacked off out of a ball and they stick that bullsemen into her cervix to impregnate her Okay, and she's about one year old when they do this. Oh She's like an basically an infant. Yeah, I've never knew that when she becomes pregnant. What happens to the calf? I Would that be slaughtered as well or to be raised and taken to their industry So females can produce milk males cannot so would the males just be Killed well, there's they can either be killed shortly after birth Okay, or matured into into when they matured into veal or beef Yeah I didn't know that but the females will be raised and they'll be you know, I call it rape Do you think it's wrong to say that if cows are being impregnated against their will? Do you think that's wrong to be to call that rape? No? I don't think it's wrong to call it right because it is because if it's if that was to happen to a person Then it would be So I'm saying the act is rape. Yeah. The action is sexual violation. Yeah cause the force in the cow to be impregnated Yeah, and I'm saying that the act of shooting a cow in the skull and slashing their throat open is murder Yes, it is If that was to happen to anybody else in the world then the other person would go down for years for it so what do you think about these euphemisms meaning words that that sort of Different words to describe these acts like humane slaughter and artificial insemination What do you think those words do to someone's consciousness when it comes to this topic? Do you think they go oh sounds better like yeah, because you could you don't think if you think about artificial insemination? You think like I've yeah, but it's all completely Willful consensual. Yeah, but with cows. It's not and they hold them down in a rack and they're selling those racks over there We call them vegans call them a rape rack. Yeah Because this what it is because that's what it's been used for I never thought about that before to be fair So basically what the reason I talked to the public about this is because by virtually by virtue of supply and demand I'm money funds these industries when we remove money from these industries and but by plant milk We boycott the murder. Yeah, and that's when they start to go down. They stop breeding cows into existence The numbers decline and these industries they go out of business Yeah, it's a lot better for cows and the life suck everything dairy farmers can start making you know in plant food products There'll be more room for you know soya milks and you know vegan alternative alternatives if they yeah, yeah so I usually finish off by Saying here's a challenge It's free vegan challenge. Here's this is dairy scary explains all the process I've just spoke to you all of this stuff can be verified to all of their standard practice for the dairy industry is up online Put up by the industry. Yeah, you can go do a little bit of searching. It's exactly how they do things, but okay. Thank you very much Thank you. It's good talking to you mate. That was actually an easy conversation You're like I oppose this but no, that's true Yeah, because when you want to do someone just like tells you the facts of how it is. It's it kind of wakes you up a bit because it's It's not easily it's not promoted by the industry It's not promoted by these people who are selling the product because what would happen to their industry if they told the truth about it They they would just go complete our business because if people find out what they do they wouldn't support it because it's wrong There you go. Thanks, brother. Thank you. Appreciate that mate. Take care What do I mean by milk is murder all dairy cows are slaughtered For beef. That's all it's pretty simple like so 50% of the beef in the UK comes from slaughtered dairy cows And there's a big dairy thing over there. So it's just yeah, that's why I'm doing it. Yeah Dairy cows are all slaughtered brother Sorry, bro. So where do they go? So anyway, they all get slaughtered like he said, but they just don't all go to the meat chain Yeah, I drink almond milk, rice milk, soy milk, oat milk, one of them, and I just I don't I avoid animal products because I don't I don't like animals being slaughtered Yeah, I'm a vegan Yeah, I hate animals being tortured, raped, killed, slaughtered. I just think it's wrong man It's not and now we've got vegan options literally everywhere There's a big and yeah, and I just think animals should drown in their own blood so I can have a burger, you know, I mean Most people feel the same way, but they're like convenience. They see the they don't see the slaughterhouse Most people are against animal cruelty too like Yeah Here's some you just had a steak, you know when I feel it give me let me give you this When I am first started thinking about this, so I remember writing a Facebook status I was like, oh, you know if you can't Say you care about animals and eat me and then I was like, but I just ate a big steak And I'm feeling guilty, you know what I mean? So that was the first step But we change it to me again because we wanted to go undercover there so put some text It is vegan. I just didn't even change it She's taking easy mate take care. I don't yeah What know what that dairy farm was saying like he goes they all get slaughtered, but that they don't all go to the meat chain so what what So I don't get it. I said 50% of the beef comes from slaughtered dairy cows, but Do the mothers do the mother's do the mother's find out for their cars It's a circle of life really, you know the cows eat the grass we eat the cows