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I'll be actually doing something a little bit different I'll be talking with some friends about the importance of creator mastermind groups and I've always been a big advocate of The idea of having mentors and coaches in any area of business really It's a real really great way to sort of level up what you're doing in any area but another thing that I'm a huge fan of though is this idea of Mastermind groups and accountability groups and I find that these can play an equal role in personal or professional Development and so that's what we're going to be talking a little bit about today And I want to start by just talking a bit about this sort of distinction between these things because I think people often sort of confuse one for the other and there is this thing about the Mentors versus coaches and what is the the difference between those The way I see that is that a mentor is somebody who has achieved already exactly what you want to achieve And you're basically wanting to follow in their footsteps and have them guide you along the way Whereas a coach is somebody that may not actually have achieved what it is you're aiming for But can help you in terms of giving you the encouragement the support and the information that you need to actually Perform at your best and if you think about it in terms of tennis coaches for example I'm sure serena and venus williams coach has not won quite as many grand slams as they have however They're still they're able to sort of support them and coach them on that journey There's a similar distinction I think between masterminds and accountability groups as well So an accountability group I see as where a group of people who are all maybe on a similar path Are all coming together to keep one another accountable for the things that they say that they're going to do and the tasks that they are going to undertake Whereas a mastermind group I see has been something far greater than that in many respects because it's where you're bringing together a collection of people who all have their own unique skill sets to bring to the table And it is a place where you can sort of talk about the issues you're having Talk about the struggles that you've got potentially as well And then each other are able to help one another out along that sort of process Um, so this is something that I've been doing as a part of a group In my content creation journey. I mean, obviously I've been a member of doc's Coaching a mentorship group and I do call doc my content creation coach because that's what he gives himself But I do see him as a mentor as well because I strive to Achieve a number of things in fields that he's already sort of been down that path So I would class doc as a mentor and a coach But as I say, I'm also a member of this This little group that we've come to call ourselves a pod and we've been together for I would say Beginning of this year. I think is when we sort of really started to form as a sort of cohesive unit And so it's with these lovely people that I want to sort of bring in today and talk a little bit more about Exactly why we did it what we get out out of it and how it's helped us all to grow So without further ado, let me welcome first of all two of the peas in our pod Hey rich and keely done rich gray And already with the emojis Rich I didn't get the memo about this I'm gonna pull out my emojis now Oh, I've not even got mine. My my emojis are all in a different scene in a different ecum profile Um, I think everyone who's watching this probably knows exactly who you are because we all move in similar circles But uh, perhaps there are some people who might not so perhaps it might be worth saying You know, perhaps rich keely you could tell us a little bit about what you're currently working on or what you're doing in the creative space or in space in general first rich And he's on mute already Oh We're professionals like look at us. Yeah. Yeah, look how bloody professional we are Nope not yet. It says guests is muted themselves. I think it's muted in the in the in the oh in the browser Too many places for mute these things. They should just be one way. Oh, you said you muted me a minute ago That's why I thought you did it anyway Hi there I Don't know what I'm doing. I'm just uh still trying to figure it out And rich that's my story. That's my spot. I what about your background though. What's what's your sort of business? I am a I am a merch hustler and uh graphic designer and randling person kind of um branding visionary Wasn't a good idea. Thanks. That's a good idea. Yeah We are in a mastermind together. Yeah, we figured this one out Yeah, and then and so I do I do video uh to promote my business and I have a podcast we record our video on every week Um, and then I cut it up in shorts and reels and all that kind of stuff. Um, I've gotten a lot of inspiration from alec and rob and um Keeley and dina and michelle everybody everybody in the group. It's really uh, it's really a great group So let's kind of worry about How about how about yuki? Boy I am I I've been hearing this phrase a lot of people call themselves multi hyphenates Which sounds super glamorous, but I think it's just short for people who can't decide Which business is actually going to do the best for them? So I run fh umpires, which is a online global field hockey umpire education business Not everybody like jump on that super niche train all at once and out of that I Started using discord in order to provide my membership services and then started just showing other people how to do the same thing So discord for creators is my second business And then I picked up this podcasting thing this creators pod thing that's That's a lot of work, you know, we're doing that thing. So it's been really fun, but uh Rich, I think you undersold yourself a little bit because you really were the Galvanizing force you were the one who had the idea to bring together a certain You know group of people that we Felt were like-minded and could all work together really well. So really If you'll recall, I just wanted you I didn't want all these other And I was like, well, you're the one that says you're the one that says I can't handle I can't handle you by myself I need to help That was it that was that right a minute. No, but I mean we were we were looking to You know really find people that we thought okay, they're on the same vibe We were in different fields and things like that. So we we started, you know, banding names about and Yep, like Alec, you're really special because you got picked. So I was that one that you scraped right off the bottom of our own We needed that we needed a third guy Yeah Exactly, exactly. I'll just say a quick a few quick. Hello to everyone in the the chat. So Parker Jones. Hello. Great to see you By the way, Michelle. Um, I've dropped the the message in for you The link to join is in the discord in the peas discord Michelle, where are you? You're supposed to be here. Yeah Come on, Michelle. Hey, Aubrey. Great to see you too. Oh, michelle's on her way apparently and Okay, great Christmas Clatter. Do you know what? It's nearly the first of November, which means my kids are telling me to put the Christmas tree up So the decorations might I'll be going up far too early, but there you go. What can you do? So, um Yeah, perhaps we could talk about then a little bit about what's the You know, what what is the the sort of concept behind this and What what do we sort of get out of it? And I know from My point of view one of the this sort of Things the way that it was positioned to me was that we're all a group of people who are not just creators But we're actually Intending to make full businesses out of this and that was a big driving force behind it And that was you know, why I jumped into it as well was because There is this whole sort of business emphasis and I'm you know, I'm not doing this for fun I is fun But I'm also doing it as a a business interest as well. So that was like a big sort of draw for for me about it And perhaps you yeah the same for me. I just wanted to Take my current business to the next level and maybe start off a consulting thing using these tools and so um, I just needed more I guess more people to work with because I work by myself all day long and I have for 20 years And it's not I mean I have an assistant, but it's not like we're in the same room And you know, it's not like working in a big company where you have a bunch of people to bounce ideas off of You're basically by yourself and you're trying to figure it out So it's really good to have these people and I wish we'd been doing a podcast or some kind of documenting since we started We only started this podcast thing like what eight weeks ago or whatever and it's I don't know. We should have been doing this the whole time because in a year from now It's going to be really interesting to see Where we are from this day and this day we'll have something to look back on and yeah figure it out Yeah No regrets rich no regrets. I think it's taking a while to It's taking a while to To sort of actually get to the point where when we started I think it was it was more of a Small sort of coaching group really But it's it's developed as our relationships have all developed into this much stronger thing that is far Exceeded that now. It's more about our our collective sort of mastermind group and we spend far more time. I think You know with one another Going through all that process and bouncing ideas off each other than we did in the the beginning So it's it has definitely sort of evolved over Over time. I think Yeah The tools have helped a lot and I don't want to Load too much a keely skirt too much, but she's really the focus the the force behind our Being able to just pick up the phone and call somebody and on discord all the time Whatever you want to if somebody's pick up a computer Yeah, that's all you got to do And call somebody And put it right there I called dina on the phone and she said are you looking at my ear and I said no Anyway, she was on her phone too. It was pretty funny That's awesome. It it has been a really cool Sort of evolution of things and that's probably kind of the magic of of discord for me But I don't want to talk about discord too much, but It just made it to where it's very easy It's like we're down the street or like we're in the same room almost. It's really it's really handy Hanging out in the same house, but we're in Facebook messenger. I mean we started on facebook messenger It was horrible. That wasn't horrible at the time because we didn't know any but we didn't know any better So yeah, that that lasted about three days Unless you're teasing me about having secret messages on facebook messenger because I refuse to go there anymore, but There you go So yeah, I mean rich when you're talking about how we started off as this group of Like-minded people and alex with a business focus You know doc was reforming his lgl Program and he was looking for Um, sort of a next level of group where he knew they were going to be very very driven and And focused and I think we all realized without even articulating it that Not only could we get more out of being in doc's upper tier membership Because the more you invest financially the more you're going to invest energetically and and prioritize those things But we also thought you know what if we start investing in each other We're going to reap rewards Exponentially that we can't do on our own and I can't remember the guy who was talking about it Uh, one of the social media Big wakes who was talking about creator houses and why they're so attractive Because when you get people all together in such a concentrated Space you can learn so much more quickly from each other's mistakes And I think we all identified that really quickly that we were going to we were going to triple quadruple September our learning speed because You know alex would do something and say yeah, don't do that thing I would do something and everybody's like yeah, we're not going to do what keely just did and it would just You know pile up. So I think that's been the thing that we've really Really picked up on that spin One of the most rewarding things And just all the time we spend on each other, you know, we we spend a lot of time Listening to each other talking about our businesses and what we're doing and hey girl. Hey Hey girl. Hey How's your hard drive michelle? How's your hard drive? You're in good shape? My nas is coming tomorrow Oh, you're crying 20 nice Oh my god, this is Oh my god. Yes. I'm looking forward to that. Sorry. Sorry. I'm just continue. I'm just sitting here going There you go. Yep, but saturday is going to be Synology Day in in the pod So we'll we'll all be there to help you set it up and it's going to be fun And see oh my this is what happens. Oh my god. Who's that guy? Who's that guy? Who's that guy? Right? What's our sensei? Yeah, michelle you should tell the story about how we started doing the podcast and kept it a secret from him Can you just like tell the folks at home because it's a really great story So what had happened was We uh, we all got together we all got together. We're like, you know what? And it was before it was right before leaping the podcast and we're like, you know what? We got this let's do this and um, you know, it was it was a lot of fun We just kind of got you know, we just kind of kicking around the idea and it was all about You know making sure that we document what we're doing, you know, this whole process that you know, we're we're we're Experiencing we're all on different tracks, you know, some are more experienced than others and There were some common things that we had That we talk about all the time and that we thought, hmm, you know what other people might want to learn or you know, follow us along this journey and uh, see where this goes and Uh, yeah, we we decided, you know what? Let's just go ahead and do that. We kicked the doors in we're like, you know what? Let's do this came out did it Had everything already secretly done And then we wanted to like surprise our sensei to say daddy Look what we did And he was like what? Oh Yeah Typical authoritarian father reaction he was just kind of like that's dope gang Yeah, thanks He didn't even hang our picture on the refrigerator did he Oh my god. No, he looked at the piece of art and it went straight in the trash. That's all that happened That was terrible. You know, you know, we're messing with you, right? No, I don't think he knows that I has anybody even told doc that we have a server just for the creator's pod Does he even know that? I don't think you know, he's that oh my god. I just outed it I did He can't he can't take all the cuss words we got we got a white the server first Exactly don't check the audit log I should just very briefly mention before we go too much further that uh, yeah, so, uh, we have got a a podcast guys And I've dropped the link in the in the chat and it's in the description as well Uh, so it's over at uh, well the you are you you are all for the youtube is over there But you can also find it at um, uh pod page dot com slash creators pod to get the actual feed and everything like that And I think we've actually got look at it. Somebody is uh, just joining it second Let's see what's happening. Oh, you're doing so good on the fly. Oh, wait a minute. That's here. Hang on a second Hello daddy Are you proud yet daddy Michelle your british girl accent is amazing and I don't ever want it to stop so just Keep on this journey because it's hilarious Well, you know, it has a little something to do, you know, we were colonized before so, uh, Oh that part I'm over here modding my business and I could just feel my ears was burning Oh, no, that's just me having a hot flash. I'm sorry Lord be home These churches is out here causing a ruckus. Hang on Something's not right in here. Let me just fix this. There we go Oh I want to ask you because I think it'd be really fun to talk about what this looked like The catch 22 which is now the creators pod What it looked like to you when we started out In january this year like what were you thinking when we approached you and said We want to have a group with you And it's I was I was actually excited I was actually excited because What what I have to say Is You know, I'm very transparent. I'll tell you whatever right I was at the point where I was getting a little bit frustrated Because I know that I was putting forth a lot of hard effort and care To get people to make moves So that their lives can be better like Me putting in what I'm putting in Makes me better because teaching is a very good way to stay on top of your game but The altruistic side is I'm trying to make everybody else better because the more people are the better the more Work we can do as a crew You know, if all of us are out here You know looking good doing all the things or whatever it makes it harder For the complainers and the winers and my day job To keep complaining and whining when I can show improved like look look at this squad Of elite athletes or athletes. I guess we're athletes, right? And I was getting frustrated because I felt like I was banging my head against the wall Because there's people that will come every week and they wouldn't do something And You guys had the brilliant idea Of well Doc Use sports ball reference here. You have a varsity team Then you have a jv team and they have a bunch of bench warmers It was like a bet so you guys created the varsity team and It was good because it allowed me to I guess Sent some examples for the people who were brand new coming in that there was a place to go I didn't want the brand new people coming in to be Turned off or turned away Because they were watching the people who were just showing up for group therapy There that's the honest of god opinion We still have some group therapy people but what they don't know as group therapy is going away after christmas You heard it here folks first folks that's exclusive on the pumpkin show My drop Industry I know I know right. I'm like looking for all my stuff. Wait a minute. Hold up I think Release the raven I think there's a real There's a real benefit though to having like a really sort of smaller tight group as well So when you are obviously doing a sort of coaching program and mentoring program where it's sort of want to You know really a lot of people I mean in those That the group sessions there was you know sometimes 30 40 and more people in there at any one time So although people come with their questions It's um It is more of a sort of one-way thing Whereas when you've got a much sort of smaller tighter group like this that you're all looking out for each other as well Um, I think it's just got a real sort of extra level of power to it there Yeah, I like the idea is it's multi multi directional. Sorry michelle. Yeah, um in the big groups that I'm in Where there's literally three thousand of us it's broken up into like sections of 20 I just love the synergy that we have, you know, it's just you know You know, I like would run off and do something and we're like, yeah, look at that. Look at him go Look at him go. All right. What do you do that? How do you do that and then you know And then keely keely would come up with something. I'm like, okay. That's brilliant and then I'd say something they're like Wow, what how'd you do that? I'm like, really? Okay, and then rich will say and then rich rich bruh bruh Bruh That's gonna leave a mark I'm just saying rich dude like like he like manhandled that podcast and subdued it into like whatever and it is what it is. It's just amazing Yeah, one time for one time for our head editor rich because man The work that you're doing making a sound Coherent and intelligent and all that stuff. I know ready It's just fantastic. I just love the edits. You're you really are bodying it. So thank you for all the work You gotta make yourself in this podcast Kicked off Yeah, exactly With that many people editing a podcast is actually pretty hard So give that's how rich about it You should explain that to rich No, actually, you know the tools make it pretty easy because we end up with five different audio tracks or five different video tracks So it works. Are you doing it? No, I'd do it in premiere, but everybody records on their own local machine including me And then I have another machine across the room that I make a group thing out of and I control that with Screen sharing so I can sit here on my In one here and record across the room on the other one. So So anyway, that's kind of a complicated thing, but I end up with five different video files and audio tracks I can use So that's the good thing is great. I was just going to briefly say just to Rich is basically running two versions of ecamm one is the one that's we're all dialing into and rich is dialing into his own other ecamm from across the room so that we've all got those full res isolated video And then we've got the combined one as well Yeah Six feet Left in that arby's coming because that was exactly what I was looking for abs um Yeah, because when I was doing it with the two machines like recording on the studio and doing everything from My mac mini it definitely helps and for the people who are lucky enough to have multiple machines I shouldn't say lucky because I hate that word people who have put in enough work to be able to have two machines It does make the process a lot easier And it is it could be convoluted, but ecamm does make that A lot easier because it just connects like that. So pretty dope Super dope. Yeah, you know And oh go ahead good I was just gonna shout out for the beta because we couldn't have five people on a stream without You know five guests limited of fours. It wouldn't work. Yeah, five guys. That's right. So Absolutely for putting that together. So but anyway, go ahead Michelle Oh, yeah, I mean, I'd love to like sit down and figure some more stuff out because i'm in the process of upgrading so I'll have more storage space, but I'm very interested to to learn about How you start on one computer send it to the other one and then store it somewhere else I'm looking forward to that conversation because I definitely need I have one dedicated Computer that I use just for streaming But I need another place to house all the stuff that I'm making so that problem gets solved on saturday and You know, hey, we could add another You know mac mini in here so that you know, we have a little bit more Uh, just a little bit more Ram in the situation. I don't know. I'm I'm I'm just I'm just geeking out on tech I used to be like, you know the the one who didn't really geek out on tech My husband was that person. He actually has degrees in it and uh, yeah, I totally blew passive He's like he walks in my office Into my studio. He's like, what the what the hell is happening in here? What is all this stuff? So yeah, that's awesome. I think that what you've just said though highlights the whole point about this Is you got some issue or you know thing that you want to sort out and then it's a case of oh We need to sort this out and then one of us will jump on to uh, you know to sort it out with you So that's the the power of a mastermind at work. Basically. It's Yeah, there you go. There you go. And Alec while you're setting up the next scene I'll I'll pick up what you were talking about and even add on even more to it and I think like we're all Okay, I'm speaking for myself, but I'm super excited about helping michelle with this analogy tomorrow because each one of us Feeds off each other and we all help each other So I would go to the wall for michelle Because she's done that for me when I've needed help when I've taken up her time Talking to me about funnels or ask if I'm asking questions about canva and all the things that she is an expert in She's there for me and she spent that time and that's how We as a group are now bigger than You know, the greater some of the whole Words You guys know what i'm trying to say and it's because of them Everything Well, all I know is if we're going to the wall I get to be uh, john snow and risk can be samwell tarley um Finally somebody else I could talk about Like the brown is that like the brown bread? Is that is that who that is? I don't remember Yeah, yeah Sam well But hey that can't turn out to be powerful because he ended up going to go control the library and whoever controls the library Kind of controls the whole seven kingdoms because he had all the information So they actually said well it turned out to be a badass But it's that thing in all hero movies when they don't know Their power at first and then they get to it And then you know with great power it comes great. Wait wrong movie But yeah, he ended up turning out samwell ended up being a badass But that I think that in a way this is funny as I say that to take that and make it work for what we're doing We all start out Like Sam well in got And if you just keep doing things you're supposed to do come from a good position The reason why he never got killed off when everybody got killed off Samwell was a kid with a good heart was always trying to do the right thing And then he was working on his craft and studying and studying and then eventually he becomes a grand master Right, so now here you are the editor of the creator pod And you know you come to all the trainings you come to everything that ecam does you put in the work You put in the effort you spend a lot of time with the house and now you are a grand master of barbecue You know what we should have all been recording because this could have been our episode eight I know right recording. Well It's being recorded this is gonna be on youtube it's fine. Yeah, but we're not but I am recording this Everything is content. Yep. I'm on top. I know right Everything is Guys I went outside I went outside to data shoot content. Did you see? Haven't seen it yet. We used to new rig, right? I Well, I went outside and I did a Instagram live talking about it and then I recorded a shorter Like a 90 second piece which was done while I was standing there. I didn't record a 60 second piece for the youtube So I'm just trying to chop the 90 And make it work, but yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah Dina glad you can make it Yay I'm here You're here late kids Did you miss me? Yes, there were bad signals being tossed about and we didn't know Now I have to recenter myself Alex I know right Preview mode You got to give us a countdown to publish, okay, I'll wish we get three two one Wow Oh, what have we done there? I've screwed something up. Okay back to preview mode back in a minute You keep doing that you're doing that. So D. Did you were you able to hear anything that we were talking about before you got on? No Because I it's not heads down on something. So I was hearing it, but I was not processing it. Okay. Let's have a do over Yeah, we'll start from the beginning. So remember that time when you were new into doc's class and then this really obnoxious canadian Was back channeling you in zoom saying, okay Okay, girl Do you want to be a part of a cool group? And you were like Really? Remember that time tell us about that time I was very confused Three weeks, I think I'd been streaming and all of a sudden I'm being asked to uh If I wanted to participate in this this mastermind with the kids that I thought were the varsity club So, um, it was it was very confusing to me. I mentioned it to a friend who does not do what we do and she said Are you sure they met you and why would they beat you? No, no, that's the front, you know the the friends that'll tell you how it is those are the ones you keep keely But uh, no, no, I you know me by now, you know, if I'm if I'm afraid of something That's the one thing that I'm gonna go run towards. So, um, here I am And I'm still I'm still trying to catch up with you guys but that makes me the luckiest person in this group because I have big trailblazers right in front of me and um, there are some times when Y'all don't know what needs to be done on something But I do and then I wiggle my way in and that's that's what we do Yep There's a thing there. I mean you mentioned about like you hadn't been a creator for very long in our little You know extended group or whatever, but that isn't the point about this It's more about like the skills and everything that people are bringing to the table and the mentality that people are bringing to the table as well So it's not necessarily about like, oh, I've been on youtube for a week a year or 20 years it's about mentality and your drive and You know passion for what you're doing the drive to make something out of it and all of the vast experience that you're bringing into the group as well so That's that that's the thing And for all of us, I think it's also the willingness to ask for help when we do them all don't know how to do something Yeah, figuring that out because a lot of people don't ask they just keep hanging their head against the wall and keep doing it wrong so the balance there's a balance rich and and I prefer this about this side more than the other side But there's a balance. There's the people that are afraid to ask for help And then other people that don't even try for themselves. All they do is ask for help constantly That will get you ignored and slow down your process Right because no one wants to hear just squeaky squeaky wheels You just get blasted with wd-40 and then you just left sticky So it's a good idea to attempt to do it Fail at it put your questions together and then go ask up you know And then act on those really important crucial part act on the result act on the advice Yeah, yeah, but part of the conversations that we have on a regular basis Yeah Part of our conversations are often not just okay Here i've done this work for you. We're also teaching each other how to learn In all of this, right? We're teaching each other paradigms of how to approach Tech problems how to approach this thing where the best resource is to go to so that we're all faster and more efficient and Better at solving our own problems in the future And I got into this debate in my umpiring server this morning with somebody who said the rule book needs to be much More explicit and outline all these things and I said well, you can have that But you will never cover every eventuality and you'll have a bunch of umpires and hockey people who don't know how to think I'm here trying to teach people how to critically think about rules so they can get to better answers We as a group help each other to think critically about Whether something is going to work for us whether that particular social media strategy is good Whether this technique of storytelling on our live stream is going to resonate with our audiences. We're we're working that with each other not just sort of passively handing out information and then Saying go do that this thing We're analyzing. We're reworking. We're challenging each other on a regular basis and that's what I really love That part, you know, I um If I could if I could give everybody just one simple thing And keely brings it up and I think a lot of people hear that word and they don't know what that word is If you're not fully in understanding of what critical thinking is Go look it up Go study it go some podcasts some videos some books some classes some ayahuasca Whatever you need to make that sit in I discovered it Fully when I was about 25 I started to put it in effect a little bit more when I was about 32 And it completely changed my life Because so many of us even if the ones that crack me up the most Are the people that tell you that I don't need nobody to tell me what to do I think for myself and yet they do so much stuff that sits on this status quo And then there's the other people that think I'm going to do everything counterculture And then go join a big counterculture movement Which case you're no longer the outlier Right, so one of the funny stories used to be Uh the underground hip hop movement like oh, you know, we're not commercial We're not radio and then nobody's here blah blah blah and then after wukane came out People started aggressively hunting for underground hip hop until they became mainstream So one of the biggest groups in the history of hip hop Is wu-tang Well, when you think underground hip hop people think wu-tang they've sold more records than Like so many, you know what you think are popular artists So at some point the the counterculture becomes mainstream gap And then nobody else wants to do that So critical thinking allows you To like step back and just look at stuff from a different position Ask the questions that no one else is asking and It really really does help you Make better decisions it just does right so you have to ask yourself like what it is and Yeah, I mean I can I can go deep on that one that one will there'll be a whole like six hour stream because It takes some time to get there But once you figure it out and yeah, I think maybe that's why we all click for the most part all of us are Are questioners and critical thinkers I was trained to be a critical thinker because that's kind of what I have to do In corporate medicine. I have to do that. So Maybe I got it from med school Probably probably because that was something that you know that in nursing school you're trained to be a critical thinker Because you have to look at the whole thing Not just whatever problem is there you have to look at Everything holistically and try to figure out how to solve the problem. So that's where my training comes in And you know You don't just do that for one for one area of your life You do it for all areas of your life because It works And it helps you Figure some figure some stuff out. I was going to say something but you know, I'm not on my stream Miss Eileen is in the is in the chat. So I don't want to have to pay so right you just have to like figure some stuff out and You know that only comes when you you know beat your head against the wall for a little bit and then they're like, all right You know what that ain't working. So I learned from that now. Let's go do something else There's a great comment here. Hey first. Hey to Eileen riches. Uh mummy lala as well in the chat But also motivated minds says, uh, I forget My name's going Carlos Carlos. There we go Carlos Carlos You guys are incredible. Well, I'll I'll just say that bit first because I'll assume that's directed at you rather than me but Healthy accountability is key to sustainable change. It's why most of us experience only small change throughout our life We never establish healthy Account accountability. I know that is so true for me. I mean, it's like I do so much better when I I'm trying to do something in a group like this Where there is that accountability and you know If there's ever a time when I feel like not getting out of bed, although actually that never really happens with me I have the problem Every time when I feel like not staying up that little bit longer Is uh, it's always like this sort of accountability group that drives me to continue. Yeah, it helps to drive me to Yeah We just want to keep up with you, you know, you already in tomorrow, you know That's what it does feel like doesn't it feel like we're just constantly chasing Alec and just be like Come on. Come back. We're crying. I like me first No, but the key part to what lo said is the healthy part because I think what a lot of people do is this whole comparison game And Right, I I have to have this fight with one of my dear friends, Aubrey every month to stop comparing um And we'll talk about this a little bit tomorrow, but I can speak peak since Alec already knows anyway um, I was talking about How One of the reasons why in Equine world I call them horse glasses. I know they're called blinders, but I like the term horse glasses Okay, first person correctly gets punched in the genies all right, so the reason why Um, Michelle, I'll explain to the rest of them what the genies are Wedding vegetables There you go the wedding vegetables The reason why they put the horse glasses on is because what horses would do Like so you're carrying something and it's fragile, right? You might be the guy that's carrying glass back then glass That's not like glass now. It's really really fragile. They got them put up They got to put in the sticks. They got the little carriage the horse is me If the horse saw another horse, maybe this guy is only carrying like wheat or something and he starts moving by fast The horse with the glass on the back would look over and try to keep up and then shatter the glass Right or chase directions or catch a wood drill and try to mount the other horse Right, so they put the horse glasses on them so that they can Stay focused so they don't compare themselves. Yeah, I said that on your stream. I like doing it So they don't compare themselves to the other horses and start trying to go faster or slower accordingly because horses are pathos, right? So they do good by themselves So I'm so glad I came from alec. That's just set the tone. That's awesome The goal is You have to be able to see where you're going But not get distracted looking at other horses Right, you got to pay attention to your own mess because you know what horse has the worst job? In the cloddsdale and the Budweiser joint horses number one and two Gangsta horses number three or four. They smell an ass all day. You don't want to be Remember that Go ahead and bring that picture up alec It's like wait, wait, wait hashtag the view from the back And i'm sitting here in preview mode just try to get an emoji of a horse because alec is that far ahead I know right. I know how he found I know what he did He used the ai generator horse with glasses. No, I know it's from my personal collection Don't lie you have nothing but cock and heels in your personal course. That's true. We know what's happening here But yeah, like carlos Carlos makes another good point in in the um in the comments about why Our accountability is healthy and it's because it's not that we're holding each other's feet to the fire And like we're mad at each other if we don't You know get those five repurposed post out that week that we all pledge to each other that we're going to manage to get around to That would be me But he's talking about how we're so glad for each other's accomplishments and we're so appreciative of each other's contributions that We we feel like we just want to do the things that we're pledging to do that we're You know, we know that we're letting ourselves down if we don't manage to get to them It's not that we're getting guilted by anybody or upsetting anybody in the group when we don't get it We're just like come on. We are here to cheer for you. So let's go. You know, we're we're on we're on your teams So and and more than that as well. It's like looking out for each other as well I mean the number of times when you know All of you at some point have dropped me a message saying, oh, hey, I just noticed, you know, whatever it happens to be That's like, you know, that horse is still up. Are you in preview mode? This way till I bring up Richard's microphone not being needed. Oh, many coughs. Let's wait Everything. Oh my god Uh, yeah, but it's this thing about, you know, everyone's looking out for each other as well. It's um It you know to think that each other we've got each other's back and also when somebody does You know point out something or give you some advice or you know, give you a suggestion or whatever that We have that admiration and respect for each other to take it on board as well Yeah, one of my favorite things is that when we're in a voice channel hanging out together And somebody else start talking about I don't know some new shiny thing or a problem that needs to be solved And dina literally she can just look at my face on the screen and know that I'm about to scroll out on it And she's like keely What do you have to do? Right now to get you ready for tomorrow and I'm like Prepare my stream. She's like, yes. And and it's just it's just that reminder of Snapping back to my priorities and it's not because You know, she does get me in trouble, but it's it's like keely. What's important to you right now? Not the shiny thing. This is what's important. You told us this is important These are your words and I'm like, well, I'm always right then I have To do the thing that I said fine and and then we go along from there And that's how well we know each other by now Hey, justin In the building Okay, and you know what if justin brown asked really nicely three times we You know, we might let him in our pod, but I don't know I don't know. I think we'd have to play hard to get for all just means also He's also coming from the future with alec. They're easy. He's Oh, well, we can't let him in now. Funny is yeah, then alec will be yesterday's news Funny thing is um justin's in the first time zone and I'm in the last We're a popular Okay, here Carlos makes a good point here in the comments Uh, I absolutely have to agree with that Yeah, isn't it easier to uh receive caring correction and accountability from someone you you trust? Yeah for sure That's that's that point. It's like having the the uh the respect of each other to know that like whatever they say is coming from a place of Of that sort of caring and uh and and also trusting in their abilities and experience as well Cam is a bad Don't be this horse Let me let me get my size in together Hold on. Let's get this I think there's there's a piece of it for me when I mean I know how busy you guys are so when I take up some of your time running something past you I I don't want to just blow off whatever you said like if I didn't like it There's a part of me that's Almost, you know, depending on the situation almost saying tough do it their way anyhow Because you went to them and asked for help You asked for advice So you can't just you know kind of like these people that go to the doctor because something's hurting And then they don't do what the doctor says that drives me Banana You asked me how to do something and you don't do it and then it don't work And then you get mad. I'm like, hey, I told you to answer. Damn it. That's frustrating, bro. That's super I call those people assholes Exactly And yeah, I just don't want to be a waste of your time that way If I do it the way you said because I truly believe that that's a good path and it fails Then get what we all learn together And if we succeed it becomes a group success You know, so the little the little wins that we each have um They add to that that momentum that we have as as individuals The key word that you said there was learn we all Learn something and isn't the whole point of this to learn more Right, isn't it? So the more you learn, you know, the more, you know, you know, the more the better you become The the the more you evolve, you know, the the you're working for the best you that you're possibly You know trying to show right so you you're going to continue to evolve and you're going to continue to Uh to do better and do better things out here. So, you know, that's the whole point of all of this And and it's sharing each other's mistakes as well So what could you learn from your own mistakes? But then we're all open enough that the stuff that, you know, I do wrong all the time But I don't necessarily go and make a video about it But I'll quite happily tell you guys like everything that's going on, you know And mistakes that I've made things that haven't worked and all that kind of stuff So we're actually learning from each other's learning experiences too Right Oh look see that part that part I don't have to put my finger in an electrical socket because I know somebody some dumb some dumb ass already did that And uh, yeah, I learned from that I'm not doing that. Okay. I'm not doing that. So yeah, this is this is why we do this What's funny, Michelle is I remember every time I was going to my grandma's bathroom She had the the you know, the lights from the old school movies with the light hundred light bulbs type of thing And there was a couple of them that just didn't have bulbs in it And those bulbs are starting to become specialty So they're harder to find and I'd go in there all the time and be like, man I see them do this on Bugs Bunny Like I wonder what would happen if you really did it and I would go in lots and lots of times and lots and lots of times And then one day I just decided to check it out Now we have the information we've been wondering about Hey, I'm curious our private discord server about what caused it all now we now We can close out more together from that Be curious Don't be afraid and then all you need to do to find out it doesn't work once and then don't do it again Like it was simple. So yeah, like and I am feeling tell tell five friends. Tell five friends that you did it Oh I I didn't have to tell five friends. I grew up in the house with seven latino women. They told everybody I was the only man in the house and I acted like it So, yeah, um, yeah, it's a thing like I I've always been fearless ever since I was a kid So half the reason why I teach is I'm not afraid to try dumb stuff Because everybody is so serious, right? I'm not afraid to destroy my whole channel to go and teach you guys How to do your channel? I'm not freaked out over the vanity metrics Or like I got to do this because I told the whole planet. I'm a youtuber So like I got to do it this this way and and then I don't know make the Click big titles and all the crowd need to do none of that stuff, right? I don't have to But I can tell you how to do a dope ethical channel And enjoy your life and and not freak out and I don't believe and I know we fight about this and y'all can fight me I don't care. I do not believe in burnout if you you love what you're doing If you don't love what you're doing you burnt out in the week If you really love it because it's your purpose and you've done your little icky guy training and you figured out What it is nothing bothers you. I'm sorry and I'm gonna fight I would take that to my deaf bed from burnout Like when you're on purpose purposes are massive analgesic. Don't nobody got to tell Alec He needs to make money to feed his kids He knows that's purpose everybody Is he the only one or michelle? Sorry So michelle and alec know the rest of us were smart We don't know no better Nobody ever told you you had to feed your kids, right? My mother used to tell me this when I was a kid. It was like A horse can't be lazy to carry its own grass right, so You got to eat You got to carry the grass. Let's go period Todd's just made a really good point actually This way says that it's important like even in an accountability group It's important important that everyone's work ethic is equal I've tried similar groups before and after a bit I questioned the other's seriousness And that's like that's like massive. That is the reason why I think we work so that's why I don't come to class no more Wait, I got a screenshot. Justin Brown said I'm right. Let me screenshot this I'll put it up there Make t-shirt. Yes I'm sorry. I hate I'll fight people. I'll argue with you until you're done I get so Frustrated when creators are telling other creators that this burnout thing exists It only exists because you keep telling each other it exists If you are doing what you're doing for a good reason on purpose helping other people's making the world a better place You don't get tired of it. You just don't like even when the irritating customers come through and they start to get on your nerves That's okay. I got it. It's like a little scrape. You got a little rash or something, right? But that heals But you're not at the point where you want to quit because the g squad like went while out one day That doesn't make me want to quit. That makes me want to just another one of those g hits What up dog Yeah, so so thank you justin for understanding me because I get a lot of heat No, man. It's a real thing. It's meant to help mental health is a different situation Most people's burnout is they tried all of the tricks to make their video go viral Which you should stop that and then nobody watched it and then they feel lesser of a people and then they call it burnout That's not the same thing. That's not the same thing There isn't a real type of burnout, but what the creators are Um, I won't use the b word the creators are complaining about on youtube. That's not it Yeah, one of the things that I noticed was um I've been doing lots of different things different sort of business interests and I'm Very fortunate that I actually love everything that I do But what I did notice was that in those moments where my mind was distracted It was always been distracted to the content creation stuff And I think there's a big tell there in terms of what it is where your mind sort of naturally wanders Um, and like now it's like this is this is a lot more of my focus now And you have to sort of drag me away from it. So, you know coming back to your point Yeah, I'm never going to get burnt out doing this because this is just like What I want to be doing at every moment Okay, so I want to address Caleb's comment real quick This is the semantics that fires me up Every human okay, let's just forget youtube ever exists. Let's forget content creating ever is this if your job was to be a Cobbler and you make shoes You have to stop at five or six o'clock and then go feed yourself Take care of the family do whatever it's then you got to go to bed. You got to wake up. You got to make more shoes Cobbler's never went around. I'm burnt out Anybody who works and doesn't eat and sleep. Yeah, but when you say agreed But you have to make sure you take time to probably rest and refuel every human being in the planet Regardless of what they're doing from the day they're born until the day they die need to eat and sleep When you phrase it like you phrase it you're setting yourself up for an excuse to at one point when you get pushed to the edge Go, you know what? I'ma just go eat and sleep instead of doing what I know I need to do because I have a responsibility to get this done You lose your ability to be re-sponsible So never bring out the common-sense nature that the kid that was born yesterday is sleeping And when he's wake up, he's going to get a bottle or a breast Every human dog animal cat the tree needs to rest and feed itself with sunlight and you know Oxygen so that statement is truthful, but it's how you set yourself up to make excuses This is why I don't let my people make those excuses Yeah, like remember that time last year during the Olympics when I was working Oh What was it 16 hours a day? Because I only slept for a four hour block and then a four hour block and then I was Live streaming during all the games doing watch parties and then I did a daily live show And I mean the pace was ridiculous when I think about it now. I'm like how The f did I manage that? without dying And it's absolutely true that after I was done for the next month I had I was I was in hormone shock I I needed to sleep a whole ton. I put on a bunch of weight like everything I felt the impact Physically and mentally of the choices that I'd made during that time was I burnt out? Hell no I had the time of my life. I was connecting with my people doing this Yeah, I was making choices and I I won't make those same choices again because I better prep yourself this time Right, so if you decide to do it again, you'll better prep yourself. You'll make things adjusted. So, you know what I'm saying? so Yeah, it's just it's one of those things like I It's very important It's very important. Yes, everyone needs to take care of themselves health wise Yeah, but if you listen to the internet, right? And this is most of luckily most of our people aren't like this If you listen to the internet, everyone has imposter syndrome That's been there long before you guys ever heard that word Like I said before dr. Rosencrantz wrote that paper in 1984 I never heard anybody bring it up to like four years ago and now everybody brings it up But that paper came out in 1984 Like how is it that nobody brought it up until now? You know, it's just one of those things and now why is it if you were to type that into Say the the google box or the youtube box you could find a couple million Videos on imposter syndrome. It's not new fam. It's been there Like I you know the hardest thing for me I got to train myself to stop saying fam because I don't want to be associated with kanya But I was saying that before he was born I'm older than him Life is hard doc Mommy lala just said that we're all right. So I'm hey, it's good. I am pro all right now She also said something earlier about um, uh, this one where's it gone? Here we go And this is part of the thing is giving others in the group The permission to give us the tough love When needed and that's you know, exactly the yeah, we get that a lot from from doc Which is really beneficial, but also from each other as well, you know You know calling each other out and uh, I think it's that's a really powerful part of it There's no sort of possibly footing around each other, you know that kind of thing and trying to not hurt each other's feelings It's like no you need to hear this and Yeah, so this might be interesting question for you Oh, okay, because I had a question for you, but you're you're first and then me We can do we can do this Have you seen our little sister What we do I have to go back to my sister. There we go. This is our system when we're recording By the way, did anyone notice that it's working much better like this right now? Well, this is because we don't mind talking over each other at this point But when we're doing the podcast we're like, oh my god, we want this to be perfect You you mentioned that in episode three And remember when I said the part about I'm yelling and screaming at your guys when you guys on It's not that big a deal people. I don't want you to make rich edit too hard. I think it's absolutely fine Everyone knows that whenever there's a panel, it's going to happen My my whole thing from the beginning was we needed to record this in one take no edits Just like we're on a live stream like right now I hope this can be a model That was it. Um, my my question is How do you guys individually handle the situation where You know, you got rubbed hard But you know, I came from a position of love Like how do you Put your pride away Go reset and then don't come back and don't just quit jf I can answer that I can answer that. So okay, so I had That exact same situation happen from One of our catch uh catch 22 members Where it was one day. I was going through a lot and we were just kind of talking, you know, and she's like, you know Um, yeah, let's just have a conversation and I'm doing this. I'm not I'm not, you know Just just know that this is coming from a place of love and you know, she kind of laying on the line. I was like Oh, oh, okay Okay, thank you. Just narrowed it down to one of two people. So Right, right, you know And I and I and after that phone call I was in my car I bawled I like I released I was like crying so hard But it wasn't it had nothing to do with the conversation It had everything to do with me releasing all of that pent up stuff. It was during the time of my I had other stuff going on in my life, but I had to really release all of that But the thing that really really touched me was that she took the time To call me and to say hey Hey, hey, I'm doing this out of love And here is how you could, you know, maybe have some suggestions to Kind of course correct and do some different things and then I was like, you know what? I took her advice And the rest my friends is history. So I'm Truly truly grateful for that. So I'm glad that, you know, we can all kind of grab each other by the scruff of the neck Do what we need to do and you know, you know that know that it's done with love It's not done maliciously. I honestly knew that but I wanted to make sure that the people listening Hear that because it's very easy to get twisted But you're getting twisted because they're trying to help you Yeah, yes Yeah, that part To be honest, I kind of sacked my ego Decade ago It still creeps back every so often, but I mean I'm I like to think that I can take advice from anybody and as long as when it comes in I can see that it's a point from of You know, it's coming from that point of caring and and whatever but I mean even even like critical YouTube comments. I don't get a huge in number of them, but I know I know that some people go on about, you know, it's It's grinding when they get negative comments But to be honest every negative I've had is true, you know I can look at everything that they've said in terms of, you know, all these guy drones on and on There was one the other day that I forget what it was, but it was just something that I can say, you know what? You're not wrong And some people would take it really it's like when I teach you about your nervous laugh, right? The nervous laugh is just it's alec. Whatever just deal with it. It's just You get about six of those an hour I think we all we'll take great pride in our work, but we don't take it personally. No, no One of you calls me on my stuff you know Did I can believe it or I could not take it or leave it, but I'm not gonna get all Sassy about it. I'm not gonna give it all back, you know There's nothing to be mad about because nobody's got time to just make stuff up and just to to irritate each other Okay, that's not true. Sometimes we do things just to irritate each other Rich Of why it works, I think That's it's something we've not actually we're talking about all this stuff That's about you know Accountability and looking out for each other and all that other stuff But what can not be overlooked is just the that actually the banter that we do have and the the shared comedy sense of humor I think that that is a is a big part of it. You've got to not just be motivated Drive and stuff like that, but you You I don't think he knows that he's not mute I think he knows it's done. He knows he's doing it just to fuck me. He knows I swear to god it says road tester pro is muted It's not working. It hasn't been working for the whole podcast Or for the whole story road tester pro stereo is muted on here Yeah, you have you have something else selected in your guest link That's funny. I did that. I'm hearing you all the way from texas And he's in freaking thailand, okay So here's here's what's really good, right? Is I think that you bring up a key element, right? Is nobody is taking it so It's the other blitz is linked in nobody's taking themselves so seriously That they're not willing to learn, right? I think um, okay When you study martial arts, right? One of the first things they tell you Straight up you got to check your pride at the door and You also have to just empty you know empty your mind Right when bruce is saying that he not just talking spicy for 60 minutes. That was life. Yo when you walk into the dojo You you you you bow you bow, you know until your four corners you bow to your sensei And the ancestors before you and you let go of everything that's happening outside You let go of your own egos all of the above So when the teacher asks you to take cracks from somebody you just got to take them and you don't get mad and go Oh, when it's my turn to punch i'm going to punch alec back hearted and he punched me That's that's not part of the dojo if you didn't learn that in martial arts you went to Americanized martial arts because in the real deal All of that stuff's out the window like right away And everybody, you know here they started doing it from this pugilistic perspective, but that was never really What it was about You know in the real country. So it's like kobra kai versus, you know yagi dojo, right The kobra kai kids was all about trying to show off and you know be somebody else or whatever And i know netflix ruined the whole story, but that's beside the point you do have to be willing to Be vulnerable and let it all go and try not to come with any pride You know kelly puts me in a place about three four times a week. Yeah, she does it. I'll be mad at her I'll be like what the hell's wrong with you. Yeah, nothing spicy to say this week You know it's it's worth actually mentioning We talked a little bit about you know having the uh a little private little group thing going from since since january but uh the The call that kelly basically dragged you into dark and says right Doc this is what's gonna happen We're gonna do this this and this right and i'm gonna set up this and you're gonna do this and that's all you need to know Just all I could do was blink like like the the roly poly blog on bugs life I feel like kevin from the minions Okay, so let's bring it back a little bit to the podcast because Uh, that's why we're here. We're like pro looming obviously. We're plugging crap out of this um And we have our mentor here And doc you claim to have binged on the first what do we have five episodes up or just four? Yeah, I I've been through four the one that came on wednesday. I haven't listened to yet because katie and kala abandoned me completely fair So You've got a flavor for well, you know us very well. You you know where we're You know what we've done so far with the podcast. Do you have any Advice or anything that's really excited you or a direction that you think, you know Hey, if there was one thing I'd want This motley crew of peas to get down to this is where I'd like To see them go because I I think it's interesting now. We we did this completely isolating you And did it as a surprise, but now it's like hey you are a mentor. So Do you have anything to say for us? You know daddy. Come on daddy. Are you happy? So far it sounds really good. There was an audio issue last time but rich said he did all the things So it just might have been Alec was talking and turned his head away from the mic and then came back at that particular time where I thought He had dipped because he is doing all the processing part. So that part is good Uh, the one thing that is very hard for all people speaking on the mic And I just did it a second ago and I caught it and I was about to do it again Second the next time it was about to come on. I caught it. I didn't hit the um button right try to Let me not say try to Be cognizant of the times where you need to pause and collect your thoughts pause and collect your thought Don't feel like I got to keep the mouth moving to hold Court so if you're in the middle of a situation where you're talking about something and because we are of a certain vintage sometimes the Next couple of words disappears Take the back teeth and squeeze your tongue And try not to say Uh like or um or Let's have a little bit of feel it Yeah, let's have a little look Let's do something a little Let's do anything a little right now Oh and oh Michelle's I thought it was like, but it wasn't like it's it's not like go ahead Michelle. What is your crutch word? What is my crutch word? Uh that That's one of them. I know Uh, it like is another one And you know, you know Yeah, so every time you want to say, you know, I'm gonna get a shock collar and I'm gonna just Until it goes away. Just Silently say it just trust me I know silently silently say it in your head But don't let it hit your vocal cords But once or twice and the only way you're going to know what it is for every person listening The only way you're going to know what it is is to listen back to yourself and when you hear them It's it would drive you crazy. So trust me. It works that way in your audience. Yes, ma'am We recorded on Wednesday We recorded on Wednesday and oh my god, michelle So much better and I could see you we all saw you working through it and Stifling in the back at you the the t-thing you were doing it all and I think I think you got through with perhaps one Just one And I was so proud of you. I'm so sorry. I didn't mention it because after we finished I Maybe it's just the high that we always get when we recorded something But it was amazing and I told you michelle you you said I don't know how to do this and I said just commit Your brain is a lot stronger than you think and you Absolutely effin knocked it out of the park. So you'll you'll hear it doc. You'll hear it and It works. So I like mommy's one because mommy and I share the same one actually I use that one a lot and I be wanting to punch myself in the face because it drives me nuts when I catch it Oh, yes. Yes Well, I'm glad you quit saying bananas. That was getting on my nerves for a while It was bad now you've said it and put it back in the brain You put it back in the brain all the time for about two weeks. All you did was say bananas every time I turned the thing on you were bananas I'll just say you want to know why I would use bananas a lot because I can't say daf Because that's what I normally would say So I always try to come up with a nicer way to be like, oh you guys you've been around me rich. Oh my god. That's dopest So Ben was the clean version of that's doble Alex friend I'll just say a quick color to uh, brian popping in the thing about um, the uh, let's have a Let's have a little look is that now because uh, because it was pointed out to me now every time I say it I also then laugh after it because I've just realized I've said it So Oh my gosh Says brian is here. I have a question for brian because one Here's how I studied public speaking without taking a class in public speaking I would watch Court tv And I would watch cases high profile cases where you had top lawyers speak So I would learn how to do the closing arguments Trust you me if you're trying to close an argument and you're talking to the jury or The grand the grand jury or some other panel and every other word is um, um, um Your person is going to jail death penalty whatever you were trying to stop them from doing they're about to lose a lot of money So I learned it from watching them and they would always take the pause and gather their thoughts They would also take the pause strategically to leave the other person processing the last thing they said The other thing I noticed that uh, attorneys do is if it's hyper important They bring it up three times within the short spell So i'm curious to brian like has he gone through that type of training? And if he had to learn how to eat certain words kelly, did you ever get to those type of trainings when you were in school? I didn't get to those trainings, but they were definitely something that we just absorbed By virtue of being around and I know when I was in court early in the early days I was very very aware and there's something about that situation the pressure of being there and knowing that somebody's livelihood or access to their kids or Maybe their personal liberty although I did never do criminal law Could be on the line because of how you present yourself man. There is nothing more compelling No stronger motivator because you truly want to do the best for somebody else and if it hinges on your speech You're going to be better And even just talking about that i'm listening to myself going i'm speaking very well right now because i'm speaking about speaking well It's ridiculous how this shit works. Sorry this stuff works. Sorry. It really is right? So people say well, i'm a terrible public speaker You are until you're not so then just be just start speaking Right the best way to get over your fear of public speaking is to speak the best way to become better at it is to speak You know if you find yourself Saying things Weird in a weird way talk more and that's why I tell everybody Practice by journaling to yourself on your camera If you journal to yourself on your camera or save space just do id lives till you get better because they disappear So you can just do them and you get used to talking to the camera Or record a master by podcast That's And and and this is one of those things that we're doing in order to improve We're bouncing off each other. We're learning how to Interview each other. We're learning how to respond to each other's facial expressions. So We think oh, I know rich is about to talk now. He's got that look on his face So We're able to better connect and because we're practicing with each other people that we know very well It's really accelerating. I think it's accelerating our skills. Alec. I've really noticed in your backstage live stream backstage Backstage podcast or the backstage pass level membership. I've got too many things called backstage and live stream Okay, but when when you are interviewing people now, I've noticed a dramatic Change and improvement in your ability to ask the next question and continue the idea and things like that So you've been showing me by doing How much you're learning and I'm learning from you watching you do that now I'm like, yeah, I want to be on a podcast with him because I know I'm going to learn even more from him. So This is it's all very meta symbiotic That podcast is was way out of my comfort zone because um I'm someone who prefers to do things where I'm in control of it to a certain point Like total control And even though I'm doing my videos like on the fly with you know without a structured plan to them I know that I'm the one that's going to be the cause for failure if something goes wrong But I've not been comfortable about doing an interview show because of you know, these these little voices in my head Oh, what if you can't think of a good question? What if uh, what if you know? It's just a conversation, but I've had those little voices in my head and it was a It was a it was yeah It was certainly one of those things that's out of my comfort zone to do it and well, alec And you're really good at alec because you'll you'll take the conversation and and base your next question I don't know what was what was just said. So I think that's the hardest part is listening Is not having three questions in the in the can and you're ready to fire them off Yeah, and you want to ask the next question without even responding to what the guy just answered. So I never have I never have a structure to it and I've been on other people's shows where they've said, okay These are the questions. I'm going to ask you Some of them have even asked me for like what what are the questions you'd like And I hate that because I think well, I don't know. I mean, how can I tell you what questions you'd like to ask me? It's really weird For somebody to say like what other question what, you know, give me five questions. You want me to ask you And I'm kind of like, I don't know. Well, let's just see where the conversation goes. Um, because I'm not going to be I mean, especially the one With you and keely, it was it was really a back and forth. It was awesome Yeah, I'm trying to think of the other one that with you and andrew I think the one that was early in the morning It was the same thing. It was just a genuine Discovery of ideas and things like that. It's really you're really good at it. So keep it up Wouldn't it wouldn't it be neat if somebody did a course on this? On interviewing which corner do we all have to look up to? I'm looking up No, he's over here I told you what day I told you what day that the email white wait list would go up and it will happen on tuesday I'm very excited That's what I was doing Before you guys started talking spicy about me and I had to come defend myself That's exactly what I was doing You know, I think um One thing alex alex is correct about The the marketing people It's a habit for them and I wish they would stop The marketing people did a couple of things And I know because they're a lot of them are e-cameras and they're in our group and they're you know My friends that are my friends because of stephanie. So they're all from the marketing world All of their shows are exactly 60 minutes There's like no room for error like they Somehow always be done on like an hour Good conversation doesn't have a time limit. We're not on tv You don't have people say well your audience is expecting me to be there for an hour only do an hour. Don't go any longer If the conversation is good, they don't care if the conversation is boring. Yeah, you're trying to bail out I get that so they do these very finite Pot in the box and they cut the conversations early And I don't like that and says well, that leaves people wanting more and then they'll come back and listen to you The next time what if you can't get that person on for another eight months The value that they needed is stuck in that person's lips for eight more months A lot can happen in eight months. You can birth the whole child in eight months come out premature and get all kind of problems So there's that And the other thing they do is because they come in the marketing world They have to hit these very particular talking points. So they send out these questionnaires What are the three questions you want me to ask? I'm trying to have a conversation with you If you seed me the questions That's not a genuine conversation And then in the same show they will say be authentic He's looking he's looking for some button Yeah, I was like beach It's not authentic if you pre handled the questions And you gave me pre canned answers. So you can hit stride on exact Marching orders. I just doesn't work. I can't stand when they do that. So when they ask me what questions Do you want to ask? I always answer back with like, oh, what's my birthday? What's my favorite color where I come from? I just say stupid stuff So when they were like, wait, are you serious? And I'm like, no, don't ask me what kind of questions You want to ask you know me and you wouldn't have me on as a guest if you didn't know me I don't need this. Please don't do that And I don't I don't tell them that they should stop asking that unless I trust them or they trust me I'll tell them. Please stop asking that but normally I just you know, I try not to answer those. I think they're dumb Um, yeah, and that's but primarily it comes from the marketing people They're trying to you know, make sure that the person gets something out of it Like this is not a promo thing, man This is this is people that don't understand that people are buying from people and not buying from A brand you might be the brand but that's different Yeah, absolutely. It's interesting because I I was on the gym and tim show last week the week before time has no meaning but They I had no idea what we were going to talk about beforehand other than discord They just said we just want you to come on and talk about discord and I was so stoked for that because I had no idea what they were going to ask me about which meant that they had something that they were genuinely Genuinely curious about And they were going to pursue that With whatever information I gave them they were willing to come in saying we don't know what's going to happen here But we're curious and we're going to keep on this line of inquiry When when dina has somebody on her show and she's cooking away She'll ask them questions about you know, what was What's your first your earliest food memory or what's what's the food that really makes you feel good when you've had a really bad day And she's asking these questions because she's genuinely curious About how people relate to food and that comes through In those shows so that is to me what the A word the authentic word really means is are you actually curious about what your guests can Can tell your audience can tell you and if you are You're gonna have a beautiful conversation You want to graduate my course when I come into my course? I'll tell you the answer right now Be genuinely curious that is the whole course I'm done. I'm done. I've already graduated ladies and gentlemen. It's there. It literally is there and the answer to that question is Maggie sauce you put Maggie sauce on anything As long as you those who know you know Maggie sauce you could put Maggie sauce on top of Maggie sauce and it's good That's funny Lola's probably laughing at us. She's like, what the hell they know about Maggie sauce I live in Hawaii that joint is everywhere Although Carlos did make a comment about how we're changing the script the dysfunctional script that was handed to us in childhood I resent the implication that there was anything dysfunctional about my childhood My script Is fully intact and amazing and yet. No, I'm totally kidding I'm sure Carlos is like looking at the screen right now going. I know exactly what keely's all left What's wrong with each one of them? Hey, hey, we put the fun in dysfunctional. Okay, so All right Carlos has a notebook this big about all of us Just added us to his potential clients list I'm saying like I was expecting after this we're all going to get a bill from Carlos. Okay, so Uh, we accept everything hsa and fsa is compatible. You can pay with that Yeah dang Didn't realize Well, Alec, what do you think? I think we should start again Take two take two tech There's a funny part the people that watch alec all the time do not know he's nowhere near as buttoned up as you think Y'all have no idea You have no idea. That was the most beautiful part. That's the best part And that's usually we should go again, but I'm going to actually start streaming now One of my favorite things about us is most of us have never actually met each other in real life I don't know why that just makes me so happy Everybody Yeah No, Alex, I would I go to go to Thailand. I mean I have seen smashing pumpkins live like four times It's two degrees of separation iRL For great case study says Carlos you jerk Carlos is taking notes Oh, god, he's gonna be delivering this but his um second doctor at thesis and it's gonna You told you You know what guys, I I don't know how you guys can pull it off, but mommy texted me Um, maybe like a couple hours ago about picking a date to go on to do her thing She's doing this vlog misting with different creators all the time I would love to see you guys go as a pod if possible because I think it would be fantastic um I don't know if you if that works for her system or whatever, but it would be dope And then man, I gotta pick my date. I'm gonna pick December 22 Lala because that's my lucky number and somebody already know December 8 is also available Let me check the calendar real quick. Make sure neither one of them is Tuesday or Saturday one second Lala's saying is this the regular time slot? So this is the regular time slot for my weekly live stream on youtube, but actually we record on a uh, well for me it's Wednesday, Wednesday morning Thursday morning. So it's Wednesday morning. Yeah, yeah Um, but we don't actually live stream it. Perhaps we should perhaps we should just do every episode as a live stream Yeah, are we ready? No, you you can do it as a as a explicit. It's okay. Um, we I have been I have been doing this thing speaking going around the country speaking about live video first So you guys are a perfect example of what live video first looks like It's doing it just the way we did the flow a couple of things it will increase it increase your viewership quicker and You will have the opportunity to get some feedback from other creators and answer those things So do your session and then have a Q&A at the end And you'll get sponsored a lot quicker that way because it's a lot more visible And you're not swimming in the same pond as everybody else. Um Yeah, so that mommy i'm gonna take december 8th because it's my it's always his birthday. Wait, that's january 8th Anyway, i'll take december 8th because they have to probe And this is what i was hoping that you would answer with the direction in which this pod should go namaste doc Good job. Why what was it? What was the actual question so i can give an actual answer for anybody who missed it Did did you have any advice for a direction you'd like to see the the podcast to go? Yeah, we need to discuss that because I don't really want to do it live I like the I like the way the last video turned out and it looks more polished. Um You I'm not a fan of the I'm not I'm not a fan of the five circles look and all that stuff I guess we could You can polish the video after Okay, so again like we've done twit this way forever You can completely edit it and put that later You can use the live as a recording just because it's simple and it's there and it helps you grow your audience People who can't stay they'll come and go they just need to know that there's going to be a polished version at some particular Time after so when you guys you guys do the flow when you do the flow on tuesday live You do a little bit of an intro that you record and then you do a q&a at the end And louise takes out the intro and he takes out the q&a and makes an episode a video episode Now does he replace the existing live or does he add to it? You have two versions of the same thing You can't really replace it. You just post up another video That's what i'm saying, but do you take the other one down? I guess that was the question Oh, no, I don't take down nothing Because it's all it's all discovery channel, right? So you have the you have so hang on So you have i'm just trying to be clear So you have the live session on tuesday and then a week later you have an edited version of that that goes up as video Yes and audio okay Because there are the people that have the mental blocks that they tell themselves That i don't have time to watch a long video and everyone says that unless they're watching house dragons Right unless you're watching football If you're watching dallas cowboys get their ass kicked you can watch four hours of that But you try to act like you can't watch something that you're going to learn to make your life better Or your business better or whatever. So that's just people talking spicy giving themselves weird People say I don't have time for a two hour movie, but they'll watch eight hours of a season of house of cards or something. So it's Yeah, yeah Yeah, but exactly and uh, so yeah that oh funny funny thing about that We were just talking about not having a definitive time This season house of dragons they did not make each one an hour Some were 57 minutes. Some were like an hour 20 like they made it work for the episode And I love the fact that tv shows cable cad Are starting to do that as opposed to trying to pigeonhole everything into like a 60 minute block Which is really 48 minute block because of commercials 42 minute blocks. All right um, so yeah, super cool. So yeah, I think If you want that polished look keep that polished look but that polished look should be more linkedin And let youtube be youtube because it works and you can put both You don't need two separate channels or none of that just two different thumbnails So they know which one is live and which one is recorded So that okay, so you know i'm a processed person. So Well, we can talk we can talk about this offline Well process process, you know, whatever That's called the whole thing off So now i'm like, hmm, okay scenes um I caught myself scenes different. So when when other people are speaking We could switch scenes, you know, we all have stream decks and all you know, whoever is running the stream It's cool like this though. It doesn't need We don't need to see the whole goal or the way we the whole goal was that nobody would have to do that Yeah, as soon as somebody is then Having to do any sort of production and focused on honor I've got a look at who's speaking and all that it takes them out of the conversation Um, I mean if you want to go and search for pictures of horses in glasses and things like that then that's fine Who would do that? Something we'll suffer And and let's face it if Rich like we can always try it and then say yeah, this is oh, I don't have a problem with trying anything I'll do anything once you're a thousand times He always says that I love that. That's one of my favorite lines. I'll do it once or a thousand times Yeah, and uh, Caleb asked if we would make a separate channel for live stream the podcast No, absolutely not because it's the same subject matter same audience. It's all the same people I think he was mean. I don't think he realized that we'd already got a channel for it. So I just posted the links I think he thought he was going to be here That was that was one. So I just posted the links to It's on your screen right here Right there. There you go. I I'm gonna dive into some of this stuff over the next couple of weeks, but I just wanted to say For everyone here who's doing a channel now Almost everything you know about channels Up until now All gone from the last updates so it's time to re-update the brain and A lot of the stuff that the old creators have been saying now old like me But just long-term creators have been saying that was the way things used to be Do not like that and youtube's doing this on purpose and I'm just going to go and throw out a little conspiracy theory here Uh, you know when a lot of the bs went away? When one of my friends who happens to live in montreal started working on youtube and Once somebody came in there to speak for us for what we want A lot of the bs is gone. So kaleb you got to restudy youtube all over again The idea of making whole separate channels all this other craziness Most of that's gone through the out the window because it's hard enough to maintain a single channel let alone 16 and then so Go study up on what the updates are There's google for creators is a channel and then there's creator insider is another channel And to get the real answers from google themselves And nothing against my contemporaries. Some of them have already started just in their comments But many people are looking at the old content making decisions based off old content And it all changed last week tuesday. So just nut up and welcome to the new world That Not up, but okay Just to be clear over e up. I'm sorry. Let's keep it inclusive. You can over e up or not But just to be clear we do have a separate channel for the creators pod So this is the the creators pod youtube channel for all our recorded videos live stream videos as a collective group So, uh, that's what the the link is in the chat to that thing Smooth like butter like butter just like this move I know right. I know right So, okay before we Everybody you guys know that whenever I do these random e-cam streams. I used to always bring up um How I think certain people look like people that we know right so I'd say alex is billy corrigan Right And then, you know, I got all my people rich, you know a little bit john candy and whatever Let me go ahead and get kaleb while we're here Okay, because I haven't had a chance to show kaleb who is kaleb or my kaleb looks like guilt body Absolutely doppelganger Dang If you watch the tv show baddie and then you watch, um, what's the name hank? No, ho hank and then you see kaleb. Yo, he just hank just needs glasses and then he can be body So there you go. All my all my people have a doppelganger who they look like and that is it That guy's name is anthony carrigan not to be confused with billy corrigan. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Stop talking about me down here Anyone wondering how who doc thinks that they look like No, actually, um, actually kaleb. No, he's just an actor. He did it for the he did it for the movie But I don't think so or actually no, he did you're right. I take it back kaleb He did he was acting doing this stuff and he was going to quit But then he decided to go back in and that's what makes the story so dope. Y'all hundred percent correct. Okay. I take it back This rate one of my one of my freaking super good friends that I used to run a nightclub with He has alopecia too and I used to tell him that I was doing this for him, but no, I just got old Yeah, my boy alex his name is alex with an x Not a c. I don't know who the hell spells it his name with a c So confusing Took so took so long for everybody to adapt. I love this comment from tarot troll maker Saying that he likes change because if everyone is disrupted everyone has to ramp up their game not just the little creators it is an equalizing force and You're absolutely spot on with that. Love it Love it Yeah, that's not them. Yeah That is a hundred percent true Yeah, yep, how are the people? There you go. Okay. Don't worry. Mommy. I'm gonna find yours. I find one for everybody. So you I still think my my one of rob and kief are the best man Keith is delroy lendo all day every day any day kief look just like him. It's super funny to me Anyway So good There you are. Tina. I'm not I'm not trying to get killed Yeah, she got We'll cut you I am so much nicer than you guys think I am Oh, no, no, we will cut you She thinks you're nice play if you want to you will get cut. Okay. You will get cut and she ain't even pour the rake Uh Did they say f a f o michel f a f o You know who dropped that or me you made me laugh so hard because you don't expect it from her Kathy What they really need to go grew It candy was like yo f a f o Na na na and I was like, oh go ahead. Kathy. I was like doing the cabbage patch I didn't know because she's just like this sweet old country lady She got knives too I don't know. I'm gonna go find it. Lala. Don't worry. It's coming Everybody looks like somebody. I just gotta find it. Don't worry. It's coming This is awesome. We now have two podcast episodes out of this stream. It's amazing. Okay We could probably We have very very well edited very long one And rich is already making that face You I don't want to get so far ahead that we're doing stuff for the next two two months away I mean, we don't need to be that far and once we start doing two episodes a week start putting them up We could just kick back and I take a break relax for a while Yeah, so that's a good that's a good question. Are you guys going to can two episodes for the holidays? Sorry, that's we're already two episodes ahead. So that's okay. That's my line doc. Yeah That's cool because I think a lot of people don't think about that, right Yeah great And I I feel like we've done a really good job in keeping to our Wednesday schedule. That's gone really well but there's five of us that's a lot of coordination and Something could happen in anybody's life Uh on a particular day and it's just too hard to get something else together. So I would feel a lot more secure having at least two episodes in the bag if not more Okay, so known quantity you only need three four four Quorum Or depends on the rule the constitution of the association and I'm telling you guys you guys You don't want to piss away a good topic. That's all you don't want to piss away a good topic if everybody needs these three input No such animal because you can revisit the topic again Because not everybody's going to hear it So you can so come back to the same topic a little bit later because we are in a very nebulous field It is better to keep it rolling even if you can only get three and then Even and you have that three say hey when we can get everybody back together We're going to have to retouch this and let that be a piece of an episode As opposed to putting it off because it's not there So you should set your constitutional rules now that you only need to have three four quorum since it's five Okay So the motion is proposed by doc rock is that quorum is three members I think at our meeting tomorrow, we'll we'll talk about that and discuss it Oh, I was gonna stage a vote with emojis like right now. I was gonna give my gavel my gavel is right over there You got a stain We ready with emojis Now he's just trope Fighting over here Oh, we fighting we fighting we fight it Man, I gotta tell you the hardest thing It's just just how nuts it is was being in dallas That's like game that rich actually tried to get tickets for and then whatever But me and mike were ended up in the in the drunk tank at the hotel watching it And like they were losing by a lot so the the bar is kind of quiet Everybody's just talking and having their own little conversations And then there was this thing where they scored a touchdown when timon's almost out The bar with like 400 people just go silent. Everybody's looking at the tv And it felt weird because mike and I were still talking and you just realized that the ambient just dropped And then we look back everybody was like this to the tv and freaking dallas came back And the place erupted but Their cycle over there when it comes to that little blue star bro, trust me That was a pre-season game too. It was a pre-season game Yeah, it was a pre-season game It was a trick because we were just talking we're having our our drinks You know me and mike we're just talking story and it got really quiet in the bar all of a sudden Because everybody was glued to the tv and we didn't know what was going on Yeah, the guy I know that has a season ticket sold him for crazy like five or six hundred bucks a piece for a pre-season game It was so stupid. It's the dumbest thing. So anyway, yeah Hey sportsman whatever. I'd spend that on Manchester tickets. That's true On pre-season for a game that didn't count. No, you would not for a game that would count Cristiano Ronaldo was there. I'm in and I pay that much to watch keely play hockey because I just want to see her Pop somebody with that stick Someday Someday It's like dang keely you had to hit her that hard if she's like So I'll I'll try to make the over 50s Masters team and they they live streamed all the games from the masters world cup What are the good? Did they it was did they call the word cup something like that? From south africa. It just happened For some of the age groups. Tokyo has just been going for the over 65s So you might you might get your wish someday. You might we'll see I don't know who all these people are Who's the obnoxious one who's always right like is that the hero or is that the identified patient? I don't know I don't know what trope this is but I'm willing to argue with somebody about it You know You know, that's your thing. Yes, your thing. That's you argue. That's your thing How for if every if ever been any kind of allen honor codependent or anything like that those Characters all come up. They're all they're all in your family Whether you like it or not, they probably are in their family Oh, okay If if if you you can't figure out which one of them is the member for your family that one is you Roy say we're not exactly the breakfast club No Well off air. Yes, we are off air. Yeah Oh My god, I love that. I heard a funny theory about the breakfast club that the breakfast club is actually You remember ali. Sheety was the goth girl that was kind of reserved. Yeah The thing the thing was that The theory is that she was in detention all by herself All those other people were made up characters in her mind Because all the stuff they were doing the principal would have heard it like breaking glass and making all kinds of trouble So but there was all these different characters the jock the troublemaker of the The pretty girl whatever and all those people were in her mind while she was in detention That's oh, that's this that's what Carlos just said if you look at that you look at the breakfast club it kind of matches Yeah, right the lost child right and then Oh Yeah, what come on now I mean even though that's a John Hughes wouldn't think of it. I'm sure john Hughes wasn't thinking about that He wouldn't when people have read like fan theories about stuff I just heard it was that was interesting Yeah, I did like that movie too Hey, whoa, I loved that make it That was Betty It was michelle's dog michelle's dog gets You know, I muted myself. Well, well while he was you know going ham in the background. So You didn't hear him. That was a slightly different sound that comes out of michelle's dog Yeah A soprano like he was a soprano That was elijah Oh your dog sitting I am we're we're doing past the dogs around again Michelle didn't hear that conversation that um, it's a it's a biological thing. It's kind of funny And for our next topic you got me over here looking at this stuff. I'm just thinking oh man What are you looking at now doc No, no about the breakfast club right right right And then I'm like oh now I gotta watch this movie again And see make sense. I love these kind of things Did any of you used to watch the young ones the british sitcom from the 80s Did any of you notice that there was a fifth housemate That was in every episode And she was always sitting on the sofa in the background looking like some ghostly figure You'd search for the fifth housemate in the young ones It's weird because nobody ever noticed and yet she was there every time Yes, oh my god, just to go off on a tango Yeah We're rolling alec. That is someone like you it's spooky I was too busy watching are you being served in uh In the other um the other brit coms that you know came on on american television So yes, this is bouquet was one of my favorite From um, you know let they came on do you remember that show? Oh my goodness. What was it are you being served? I love that was with the um like A shopping mall or whatever And it was just about the characters in the in the store and then um Oh my goodness It was sort of like oh god I can't remember the name of it But you know the the main character her name was mrs. Bucket But you know she called herself mrs. Bouquet because you know She was always trying to be part of the upper echelon, but you know, you know She was a little weird and a little different. It was funny Keeping us with your that's the one yes keeping up appearances. I love that one Yeah, dude, so you can get all that michelle on brit box Oh Well, you know my vp ends going up on saturday, so Oh, then you can find it because um the other thing is if you go to i tv 4 Or some of the other channels, they'll tell you it won't work, but there's this amplification amplification The application uh sounds like spotify that you can Things on i tv 4 because i i'm i'm not i don't like the netflix version of british making shows too late I need to know what's popping now Actually and lauren ordered the british version is not as jacked up as ours. They don't tell you all the answers So there i think we're in danger of going into one of our private sessions Yeah Remember that we're not in discord right now. Yeah, I think I think that this is just how we hang out I think at two two hours and we've probably covered off the whole accountability thing What I'll do is uh, I'll wrap this up and then we can actually continue But I will just say to everyone once again link to the podcast and the the channel for the podcast as well Is in the description and for those that are watching on the replay Thanks, first of all for everyone coming in hanging out and for those watching on the replay I'll leave a link to the podcast channel over here on the right hand side So you can all go and check that out once again. Thank you to my channel sponsors as well for your support much appreciated We didn't even get to say bye. Oh say bye. Oh that was a bit