 Okay, good morning. I just wanted to introduce myself very briefly. For those of you who don't know me, my name is Jessica Vargas. I am the Mission Coordinator, the Ministry Coordinator for the Center for Church Development. And I'm here to, you know, help and assist in any way that I can to help you fulfill your mission. We are here today with Peter Werner. He's from Mission Insight and I'm going to give him the forum so we can start our presentation today. Thank you so much for taking from your time for being here. Peter. You're muted, Peter. My apologies. It's good to be with all of you. I was one of the founders of Mission Insight. And I'm kind of getting ready to, to step aside and enjoy my grandchildren more going forward. A pleasure for me to be able to share what I believe is one of the really essential tools for pastoral ministry, as well as conference leadership in sharing the gospel with people of getting to know our neighbors, getting better informed about who are we and who are our neighbors. This is a ministry that I've been part of for 30 years. And I happen to be a United Methodist clergy was appointed by my bishop over 30 years ago to begin working with congregations across the United States to better understand who lives in our community and what can we learn about them as well as are there additional things that we could learn about our members as well. I'm going to share my screen. And so let me do this. And I'm going to go right to the actual platform of the of the of the mission insight tools. This is the website, the homepage. Here is where you a client would log in. And I know that Jessica has the availability to assist all of you to get from here to here. So when you have a login account, and you log into the system, this is the screen that will greet you. And so there are a number of buttons and I want I'm going to walk through those. Also, I want you to know that there is a document that you can look at. It's available to you in the help section, following this as well as the recording. So you can go back and get some step by step assistance in how to use each of these resources more effectively for your congregation. Historically, when people have talked about demographic systems, they generally have talked about getting a demographic report. And that that would be the best thing to do initially is to go in and get some information about the community. Now that is still available. But I'm going to come back and I'm going to say that what we recommend strongly, and that the conference supports is uploading your member file into the system. And the reason is it changes exponentially the capabilities available to you to not only better understand who's it who lives in the area that we serve in ministry. Where are we currently serving and where are we connecting with which segments of the population. Are we strongest with, and where do we have areas that we could grow and connect with people that we currently are not connecting with. And it provides you a level of understanding that moves way beyond a demographic report. And this is where you would take care of that work. This is the people plot load there is a video, which I'm not going to use, but you would click on upload your people if you've already done that then we you can display them, which I will demonstrate in a bit, but you click on upload people it turns blue, you then click on this button it will identify your church, you have logged in as your church, then this that will be the name here. You click on this tab and you can use a custom upload, but we recommend that you begin with congregants default. When you click on that. It will then allow you to click on this next button. So let me minimize there we are. So I'm going to click on the next button. And now that shows you that you can also code each of the records that you upload we strongly recommend you upload into the dual records. So you can see if you have different members of a household in these different categories, you can use this or you can skip this and just upload your members and be able to view them and get started. And here is the actual template. So when you click it says here is the upload template. I'm going to open that. It is an Excel spreadsheet, and you must use these headers that you cannot edit them. And then here is where you enter the name information and this is what you need to get started. You do not need to enter any of this additional information that that is optional later. So the important thing is that you can, if you have an ID number you can use that you do not need it, but you need name address. City, state and zip. So that is the upload file. And in almost all cases, you can export that from your current management church management system. Currently, just for your information, there are one third of all of your churches in the conference have uploaded their member files. If that is accomplished, you then can see where those members are located. And I'm just going to go into one of the studies that's uploaded, not trying not going to discriminate. If you see one that you might want holler out, I am going to just do faith, UMC here in Denton. And so we're going to say that's this, that's the church we want. The legend will be done, we just want to see where they are located. And then I'm going to plot those members. And I'm going to zoom in to Denton. And if you were logging in as a member of Denton, you would then have, it would take you directly to your church. And so here we can now see where our members are located in relationship to the congregation to the church location. So once we're here, you then have the ability of not only getting demographic information for the area where we would go to demographics is you can run any of these predefined reports. But there is a unique report called a comparative insight. What I'm going to do just for demonstration is I'm going to create a custom shape. And I'm going to create that on this side of the interstate. And so I'm just going to, for demonstration purposes is just come over here, come down and create a custom shape. So I'm just moving my cursor, double click. And now I have this shape that I can can create information on. So I'm going to go back to my demographics. And I'm going to select a comparative insight report. I want to show you this and then we'll look at a demographic report. This is the kind of analytics that are available to you once you have your members integrated into the system. There are over 5 million records from churches that we have. So there's the area we're looking at. And what does it tell us about the area it says that we have 248 of our members. Living in 110 households. That's why you want to upload each individual. And we in an area that has 34,000 people living in 11,000 households. In the area, there are 50 of these unique socio economic lifestyle segments called mosaic in the system. But we have our, our members are 110 member households live in 17 of the 50. So we are represented in 17 of these 50 that are present in the area out of the total of 71. This section just provides some highlights of where we are overrepresented or underrepresented in these categories. And because the mosaic system is built at a nine digit zip code, we can compare our household locations to the locations of all of the households in the area we are analyzing. So in this polygon, the highest group would be would have a head of household age 51 to 65 30% in our congregation. They would be represented by their segment, which would indicate it's 33.5% of our members would correlate to that particular category. The index is very helpful because the equal correlation is 100. So if it's over 100 we're overrepresented. If it's under 100 we're underrepresented. And just for your information, this profile is not one we see in most congregations. Generally, we see lower indexes in the younger age head of household families and higher indexes here so this is just the opposite. So what's the story, what's the message of that it's communicating with us. So we can see then these different individual categories that are available and not going to spend time going through them all because of our time element, but I want to show you the second section. Here is the 71 segment classification system, and I'll show you the workbook for it. That now gives us correlations of who actually are the households that live in this area we're looking at a real report for this congregation. In this area, the highest number would be F 22 and Epsilon experience who created the system gives them a name of fast track couples and this. So if we come here to the mosaic handbook, which I'm going to come down to and we come to F 22. We will be able to see what are they talking about when they say that this these households are identified by this by these characteristics. We're going to see that they are head of household age 31 to 35 so that correlates, we're going to see how they like to be communicated with and all of these are under the definitions are available to you. What kind of lifestyle behavior or do they have what are what is true about their education, what kind of household income do they have. What's their family structure tend to look like. And one of the key elements of the system is length of residency. In each of these segments there is what tends to be the amount of time that they stay in one place. Now they may not move out of the area, but they tend to move around this group, the centerline is the norm in the United States for all of these categories. If the bar is to the left, you they are you are underrepresented in that category. If it's to the right, you are overrepresented. And if there is a number, as there is in these three. That's time so this group is extremely mobile. Well, what what what might that mean in regard to ministry, when we are trying to connect with them. Well this church is doing quite well, because 29% of their households are in this category. So they can currently learn how to connect with people that tend to move around and are very mobile. Then they also are doing a, again, above average, in all of these top four, given their presence in the area. So this one, which is 7% of the population. They only have a couple of households. So it gives the congregation the ability to see which of these categories are we doing well with, and which ones are we struggling with. What might we connect with in that in those groups at the end of each of the mosaic pages, whether it's in this report or any of the other predefined reports, you have links to, to take you to the resources available to you. And Mission Impact Guide is being re edited and updated and will be available by the end of the year or the first of the coming year. And this application guide provides a link between this information from experience and ministry application suggestions. And I want to show you that's available in this report and I'm only going to show you part of it, because I want to respect the privacy of this congregation. What it does is each of these mosaic categories have an income level. And so we know that if someone is in an a 04 as they have one household, their annual median income is going to be around $180,000. Now this has a range of 25,000. This is the center point. But what it means is that these top these households in the a category are all going to be have incomes above $150,000. And so just these 57 households have this income of 1.56 million annually. So if you see these 13 households in D zero seven, they make 120,000 a year roughly 121 there, those 13 households have an annual median income of over 1.5 million, and so forth. In the end what the report does it aggregates those numbers and gives you a very, very good idea of the financial strength and capability of these 110 member households in your congregation. So this is not available to you in any other format, except the comparative insight report. So that's why it's important to see what that's all about. The other thing that you have available to you is if you want to look at who are our members that live in these in this sub area of a zip code. Because when you, when you look at a data, you, you would have zip code data so you would know all of your members that live in the zip code, correct. But you do not know who are our members that live up here in this corner of the zip code. So you can, you can actually find that out. So I'm going to go to my shapes. I'm going to go to my custom draw. I'm going to come up here. Excuse me. So let me do this again. And I'm just going to say, okay, we want to know who are our members that live right here. I'm going to collect them. I then have the ability of coming here to this people download icon, and I can download the information in that area, and find out exactly who are our members in that area. So this is great for a better understanding. If they might bring them together in small groups, do we have people that are that are inactive. And here as you can see they coded those those codes that I showed you in the upload file that this. Visitors, these three, and here are some members and here are two regular attenders. So you have this capability of better understanding what's true in terms of your member profiles of where they are and what kind of categories, they would be and I could also run. I could come here and get their mosaic and see who they're reaching. And not only can we do that, but we can turn on in the plotting section. I'm going to come here to what's called neighbor center. There we go. And I'm going to start this. And now what this is going to do is it's going to load of the people that live in the area. And if we're doing well with the 22. I'm now going to go search by that mosaic code. And see where do these fast track families actually live in the area. So come back down here. And now I'm just going to plot those f 22s. And now we can see where they are located and if we wanted to reach out to them. We have we would be able to identify them. So we could go to our user assistant window in the front, and we could look at purchasing those mailing lists of those names. While you're here though, you can mouse over one of these. And it will tell you who lives in that household. There are public databases that are purchased sold updated regularly. And you have the ability now of more sophisticated tools to not only work with who we're reaching, but then how could we locate others of the similar household or different households that we want to reach out to So this is called neighbor center. The other thing when you draw a custom shape as we did here. There, this little box opens up. So let me see shapes. This little box opens up and here you could actually save the shape. You can name and put it in your saved shapes folder and be able to read to retrieve it. Exactly as you drew it at any time. You have a system that isn't just go to find something one time, but multiple searches that's why we recommend multiple people in a congregation have user rights. The more the merrier the better for ministry. If you have someone in a meeting, and you're talking about children where our children located, which families would have children, you can go to the tab in the plotting, and we can look for that information. Children in household by age. If we want to see just these all of these ages. Where do we have these families with children. We're not going to plot legend by. Oh, here's the one I wanted. Sorry needed to put that in. Here we are. There's something not working. I apologize. I'll check on that but that is that is those that is one of the functions that you can. That you can do for some reason it's not showing up here. The way it's designed to. So now let me come back to the, to the area for this church. And I'm going to also come to the demographics and say we would like to look at, say a radius, or the zip code, what's true about this particular zip code. So we'll go to our layers. I'm going to activate the zip codes. And I'm going to select this zip code right here. Well, it looks like the system is get as a little bulky at the moment. I apologize for that. So let me come back here to my zip codes. And we'll just pick we'll pick this one. There we go. Now you can, you can go in and just get the information for that zip code. You can run these are three demographic reports. And these are religious reports. So we could run an executive insight if we want to look at what the demographics are in. So you have these different levels of capability. So here's the, here's the zip code data. And one of the things I like about this report it's thematic. There are 12 themes, but you can see in this zip code and look at the explosive growth. Since 2000, and continuing up to 2031. So you have this range of information over this range of time. It has racial ethnic. Diversity in it. You also have financial income diversity, where by race and ethnicity, which I think is one of the informative variables in the system. So we can see here, given which household type we are talking about, we can see the differences in the income ranges for them in the area. And many, many times, you know, people have stereotype images of who's making what and where's the, who, which in which households have a greater or lower income. You will find in many of these reports. Maybe some surprises in that regard. The other thing that I like to point out about this particular report, you can see education level. What's true in the area in relationship to the state. Whenever we do comparisons are always to the state that the geographies in so this is comparing it to Texas. And then here are the mosaics for the group. Let me look at the difference. If you're doing ministry in this area compared to the other one. So all of these are unique to the geography. The other thing I like to point out is the generational page for this report, because you can see that if a congregation is primarily working with boomers, silence, and the GIs. You're looking at less than 15% of the population. So what does that mean then for the future, which I know all all the congregations are struggling with or working with. And here again shows the trend lines for each of these generational groups. And finally on this report is some information from the religious survey. The religious survey is unique in America, because it was done at a level that allows us to tie it to the nine digit code. Experian mosaic system, which means you can look at this information at a localized level at the block group. So these reports are very unique to the individual geography. And so I would encourage you when you go online is to look at each of these reports individually. So if we're also looking at this zip code, we could run a thematic map. Let's say we want to know where are families families with children, and we can use each of these so let's look at female head of household. So we're going to go to the block group. We'll do the census layer because that allows us to go down to the block group. And where you can then choose your color palette. I kind of usually like this one. And I'm going to say create a theme map. Oh, that wasn't very good. Well, why that didn't work. Systems not happy today. Let me come back. Let's do another zip code. Turn them on. They know as you can turn all these on you can navigate anywhere. Of course with your local church. And when you log in it'll take you directly to your church. So I'm just going to come to this particular zip code again, and activate this. So let's go. I want to then go to our, our demographics, our thematic maps. I did all these earlier this morning and of course they all work great. So now we'll come here families with children. Female head of household. We use the same color. We will do create a thematic map. And it is not going to do that for me at the moment. I apologize. So let me try and see if I can get this to work with opportunity scan because this is very important to be able to. So let's do all overdue will do racial ethnic. Hispanic Latino. And we'll come here. So I apologize for these glitches. But what now what we've done is this is called opportunity scan. And what it's doing it's scanning this geography for the presence of the Hispanic Latino population. And it will do it down to the block group. So we can turn off the colors, and we can see that this is this is what's true in this area, in terms of a thematic map. So this is what a thematic map would look like. But because we are using the opportunity scan function. We have a an additional table available. And so what the table, then we'll give us information on where these top areas are I see, for whatever reason, this. This message is coming up. I apologize again. But this shows us not only where they are but what is the number for the variable we're looking at so this block group here is is the one that has the highest presence of the Hispanic Latino population. So when the system is working properly, it will take you directly to that particular block group. I'm going to pause for a moment I've gone through a whole variety of these things on each of these tabs. But what I would like to do is come back and see if there are questions. If there are things that are important to you, maybe things you've done in the past that you'd like some comment on. The other thing before I take a question is this user assistant tab is on the in the help section. There are documents that support. What's true this is the religious study. This is the mosaic handbook that has the link. And this is the mission insight user assistant that I'm that I'm pointing out here, and you can see it is as it's set up with sections for each of these categories that we've been looking at. You can download this print it and have it available as a resource when you're thinking of now how can I do that. So let me come back to. There we are. And get some feedback from you because it's a big system. And again, I don't know what's going on with a couple of these functions these error messages if you get them please let the company know they're not supposed to be happening I can tell you that. Go ahead. We have a yes we have a question from David he was mentioning that he uploaded congregational roster click plot and he didn't do anything he's not sure what step he missed. Say again I'm sorry I didn't quite get that my audio. Okay, I have a question from David he says that he uploaded. He says the congregational roster and click plot and it didn't do anything he's not sure if he missed step or or if there's something that he missed or something that he did. What church is it. Creek would. What's the name. Creek would. Creek would. Yep. Let's just take a quick look. You said you uploaded to members. I think so. Let's check here. Would it be CREK. Yeah, it doesn't look like it's on there. Am I support can assist you in getting that upload taken care of. Definitely. Good need to contact them and they will assist you ASAP. Yes, sir. Let me just check one other thing. I just want to look here at your study creek would you say. That it is. Pre Allen would be it. There you go. Right here. That's it. Okay, so when you log in, you see this is where it takes you correct. And go to your plotting. How long ago did you upload like literally while you were talking trying to do it at the same time so I'm using my own self help session. It looks like it is working, but it's it gets in the queue. And it can take, you know, 30 minutes to an hour before it will display. Okay, cool. Thanks. So it should be okay. But if it doesn't display, you know, within an hour of contact them I support make it definitely troubleshoot that for you. All right, thanks. Certainly. Okay, we have a question from old growth separately to our question they're asking about if we can hear to our four specific or detail ways. Churches have used a mission inside that directly led to driving new people to this church. And if there's any research that might show that it churches the X Y Z on mission inside. There's research that will lead people and increase in new people visiting the church. So you're looking they're looking for information of how others have used the system. How it has helped them to actually drive the church. How it's helped other churches. Is that is that regret assessment. I think it's faster day. What they would they again need to do is contact mission insight support and my support. They've been in the process of collecting different stories and anecdotal information on how this is being used by other congregations. There are many, many stories I do not have any of those at my current capacity, but am I support should definitely be able to get that to you. Very quickly. Thank you. Are there any other questions and what he also wants to maybe ask a question at this point, or what he has covered so far here and now. Okay, let me come back and share. I want to show you a couple other things here. You're looking at Creekwood now correct. Okay. Now let's say at Creekwood. We wanted to know something specific regarding this area. One of the other tools. That is that is here is the ability to use a travel polygon. And so let's say we wanted to do drive time. And I'm going to select a point on the map. So I'm just going to click on there and it was going to take me put a marker there at the church. And I'm going to say next, and I'm going to say 10 minute drive. And I'm going to click next. It will draw a 10 minute drive from that location. Now you have the ability of being able to go on and look at any kind of demographic. So let's say we're in a meeting, and we're really not interested in a full report. We just want to know what's going on so we can go to custom reports and we just we just want some, some demographic information we'd like to know the racial ethnic makeup. We'd like to know what is the mosaic. And the age. And so that's it for at this point. We're going to come down. And we're going to generate just that information. And so it's going to go in and create that information. Then here if we're working with a group we can enlarge it. And we can see within a 10 minute drive of the building. We have over 74,000 people. There's the racial ethnic makeup. There's formal schooling phase of life. Here are the mosaics and we can see this flourishing families B zero seven is huge 20% of the population. So once your upload is complete, and I think it's going to be very interesting how do you distribute with your households across these top five or six. So it gives you the ability of looking at information in that regard. Now, another way I like to use this particular tool is what time. The reason is what is true within a right around our congregation. If I asked each of you, how many children live within a 15 minute walk of your building. What would you say. 10 or their 50 or their 500. Well, let's find out how many there are within 15 minutes of Creekwood. I won't put the person on the spot of what they think. And then we'll go look, but let's just give that a go so I'm going to come here to my travel poly. I'm going to do walk time. I'm going to click on this address again. So there we are. Say next. Now I'm going to go minutes. I'm going to do. I'm going to do 10. And then I'm going to do 15. And I'm going to come and say next. I'm going to draw those shapes. So there's your plot up here. So it's processing. Oh, we can see where your strength is. Excellent. So now let's just see what's true here doesn't it doesn't look very dense. So I'm going to, I'm going to go to the 15 minute. And I'm going to go to my demographics. And I'm going to say, let's just build that report. And we'll do phase of life. Just use the same ones for now. We'll generate that report. And so. Within a 15 minute walk. We have 44. Zero to four year olds 284. Ages five to 17. So over 300 children. Living within a 15 minute walk of the building. Now it appears that on this particular. In this particular case that most of the members of this congregation. Are here. Big time doing great with that area. So then we have this area. What might that mean for you as a congregation. In regard to who you're reaching. So now when you draw. If I were going to run the comparative insight for this particular church. I would probably run two. I would run one for this area, which looks like it's a so unique area. And then I would maybe run one. For the rest of this area. Or I may run a few more on the why that's going away when. Zoom. But I, you know, I may do some something here. This gives you the ability of analyzing. Where we are by geographical location. You could also go out and do a huge area and get, you know, 80 90%. Of the people. That we have plotted. So you want to also know what's true about the congregation as well. That makes sense. Any, any comments or questions about that? We have a question from a growth. They're asking what does the church do with that information just shared about the drag time and then say it's. I think what it does is it gives a church. The reality of where do they want to target what what's their reach and what's where's their depth. So this congregation, it appears that the depth of this congregation is here. There's also strength here. Now you can keep going out and going further. But the other thing that if I were. In this congregation, I would now want to plot. I would want to add the regular attenders into my system. And I would want to know of all of this. All of this group. How many are regular attenders. Okay. Because I think that's going to. That's going to give us a much better understanding. Of what is true. In terms of. There we are. There we go. Now they're plotted. They weren't plotted correctly. Because this is such a large congregation with a large area. You probably want to come out and do. A comparative insight. So this is a, this is a group. This is a group. Where you collect at least 85% of your members. But it's evident when you look at this plot. That right here. Is the strength. And then you have subgroups and this is one here. There's one around the church. So there may be a half a dozen areas you want to analyze. I'd analyze this area. And then there's a group. And then there's a group. These members, are they, how active are they? What about the members here within this area? Whatever the natural boundaries are. And that's where plotting the members makes a huge difference. Because people say all kinds of things. People, you might say, well, we have members that drive 20 miles to get to the church. Don't deny it. You can, we can see here. It's right in here. And here are the real heavy duty. Concentrations. So I want to be analyzing them. Kind of heavy concentration here. A little group down here in this area. But what does that mean? Who are they? And there's another church down there. So is it ministry. Activity that's drawing them. To Creekwood. So those are the kind of questions. That I think you can then begin to ask. As you plot and look at different geographies and member, you can save each one of those shapes. Well, our time's almost up. I hope this has given you some additional. Understanding and interest. In looking and using the system beyond. Just getting a big report, say a five mile radius or a three mile radius or your zip code. You can do that. I think those are, those are interesting. And informative. But I think the system is a lot more informative when you're drilling down. And you're looking at neighborhoods. And you can extract who the members are. And you can look at targeted activity. In a neighborhood. They could host other members. They don't even know they live near each other most likely. Or a visitor comes. You add the visitor to the system and you can see, oh, we have three members that live. You know, within four houses of that person. So I think it's those kind of activities and ministry. That hopefully it uncovers for you. Thank you. Yes. Go ahead. No, I just. Comments from either of you. Yes. We'll have the video process, but I just wanted to give one last chance. If anybody has any questions. They wanted to ask. We have a few more minutes left. On the presentation. So if anybody want to ask any questions. So this is their chance. I have a question. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Yeah. Just specifically, how does. Mission insight. Help churches. Increase. The number of new visits. To a church. How does mission insight. Help a church increase new visits to their church. Well, first, there's not a program that mission insight has. That would address that. What we have, we believe is a resource system. To better inform you as a local. Pastor or local lay leader. Within a congregation. To become better informed of who's there and then what are the kind of activities. Given those profiles that might resonate or connect. With those households. Let's say it says. People like to travel or they like outdoor activities. So what kind of things would you do. In your congregation to. To connect with people with those lifestyles. So it's, it's extracting from the lifestyle data. What you think is important. There's no canned kind of quote program. That mission insight has. Has had in the past or at this point. Doesn't say that won't happen with. Under the new leadership and ACS technologies. But for now. It's really to better inform the leadership to be able to. Better understand it and creatively. Look at how you want to approach that. And what works best you think in your environment. As opposed to someone saying, well, here, I think if you do this, that will, that will, that will work. So, so it, there's no kind of meta analysis. Of churches. That have done this across the whole spectrum of mission insight. And listen, you know, it looks like, you know, churches that did a combination of these things. We see that, you know, there is a correlation between an increase in. In visits, new visits or new visitors. Because, you know, X, Y, Z. So here's a good place to start. Using our. Our data. Not at the moment. That's, I think that would be a great analytic for sure. And I would say Jay. The way I've seen churches use this effectively is, is taking the data that mission insight provides and discovering. Oh, we have this many. Single mothers are, you know, some aspect and then say, okay, here's the ministry we need to do. This is how we need to advertise this, how we need to reach this demographic. Or we're discovering, you know, the demographic, the different graphic shifts around communities that are going, or if you're going to target a neighborhood, a new school or something like that, it provides you that data, but then the expertise on what ministries would relate to. The various demographics is going to be contextual. And is, and it's kind of beyond the scope of mission insight in my experience. Yes. Is that all the report that he was talking about, beyond the demographics is also like, you will get the information on how to contact them, like how do they like to reach the reach. Oh, that's a good point. So that's that information you get, you get a permission inside. And like I said, even within the same church, not the reports are like, because the idea that you, that you're looking for does help the information that you're going to get. That is an excellent insight, no pun intended. You know, one of the other things that I think the system. It can really be utilized as in the religious reports to two of them. There's a ministry insight and a religious insight. And they, they are surprising as to what people are actually saying when they complete a survey. As opposed to what people think is true. In terms of religious things and that is shown in the, in the decline that's going on more and more people don't, you know, since they don't need to organize place. They have, you know, different things of their own. And so I think if we're going to be, if I'm going to have to be an effective congregation, I'm going to need to come to terms with that and, and communicate that that could be better if you're part of this congregation. You know, there are things that would be much, much in your favor if, if you are engaged in a community of faith. So again, we don't oversell it. It is, you know, it doesn't have a lot of things that we might hope. But again, hopefully it will provide you another tool. To assist as you go forward. I think the conference has found it to be fairly useful or quite useful over the years and we hope to keep it up. And the other thing, the gentleman who just was speaking, the, if you have questions like that, there's send them into the support team. Because they listen to the client. Okay. That's a go. I'll do that. Thank you. All of you. It's one of the reasons as a former. Founder and owner. I'm pleased as to where it's landed. In, in, for its future, because I believe they, they really care about. The, their client. Okay. Well, thank you. Thank you so much for all of you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for your time. I just wanted a few household items. I want to make sure that you know that. The church development. Has a. You took paint where we post. All of our recordings of this seminar. You can just find us on YouTube. You can just find us by, you know, Texas conference center for church development. And we have there all the recordings for our seminars. We also, they'll also be posted on the Lord Texas conference page. It's the LPC. You MC dot org slash CCD. That's all they're going to be there as well. And the reason we also like for you to take this information and use it. It's like, you know, We're going to talk about the space that is happening. I know that some of the people are not wanting to go and join into congregations or organized religions. So let's meet them where they are. And that's what we're talking about our new spaces. Finally, new spaces where we can bring those new faces to join and be part of. And I wanted to talk to you about our spark. That is happening. We're having a spark. We're going to bring people over. You're going to be presenting your ideas. And we want you all to look into that, check the information is on our website and on YouTube as well. We have all the information about the Spartan, you can see information that you just get on how to get into know the congregation and the people around your places. And then let's start designing those new spaces for the people to come and so you can bring those new places and be creative from part of the, bring them part of the church, but meet them where they are, that's our face. So thank you all so much for taking your time for being here. As you know, any information, any help, any assistance that you need, you can also contact me. And so I guess I'd enter to you, mc.org, and thank you, Peter, for keeping us from your time. And now Reverend Rolls. Oh, and if you want to say a few words, last words before we leave. Just want to echo that, Peter. Thanks for your coming and be with us and also congratulations on the work that you've done with Mission Insight and the thousands and thousands of churches that it's helped reach their community. And I know retirement is around the corner for you and congratulations on that. And for the work you've done to strengthen the church and the work in the kingdom of God. Appreciate that. And thank you, Jessica, for organizing this, coordinating that. And so again, everyone, it'll be up on our YouTube page very soon. And then it'll be up on the Architects Conference webpage and the CCD page very soon after that. And so thank you all for being here. And if you need any assistance with it, Jessica will be able to assist you. Her email is in the chat. You can send it to her and you can also contact after you get your credentials and so forth. You can contact Mission Insight directly as well with their customer service department. Well, thank you all for what you're doing. Thank you for the ministry. Thank you for caring about your neighbors to take the time to learn more about them and how to utilize Mission Insight to connect with them. Know that we are praying for you, that we are grateful for your ministry and for your commitment and we are here to support you and please let us know how we can support you more. We'll be sending out a survey asking as much. And if you can fill that out and get back with us. So God bless you. And thank you for doing what you're doing. Amen.