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But how you find our membership under every video that we have, including this one below, click on the description section and you'll see a link to join our membership for all the instructions and you're set to go. But thank you in advance and we love you. Man, hey guys, man. We got a treat for you today. This guy right here, he really don't need no introduction, you know, because he been on the show before. This guy right here, a man been supporting me. We even went down a little rock. That interview never did come out. You know what I'm saying? But we did it. You know what I'm saying? Man. But this guy right here, man, got a lot of jewels and I'm pretty sure you guys about to learn a lot from C James is in the building. What's going on, man? What it do? What it do? How you doing, man? I'm blessed and highly favored, man. Man, you are, man. First of all, I'm going to say, man, we went and we ate together today, man. And we sucked, you know, how we sucked together. Five. You know what I'm saying? Five. Shout out to Jaggedyrix, man. Jaggedyrix, man, over at that ghost kitchen, right? Real out of the thick Jamaican food. Really? Oh, man. It was good. It was good, man. I was talking early next year. I was like, yeah, man, 19. I'm like, where did it come from? What? I was talking to a Jamaican for a second, man. How you sound? He's doing good. He's doing good. He's not the best, but he doing good. Okay. You just got to keep practicing. He got to keep practicing. Man. But I remember a statement that said, it was even better than somebody else's jerk chicken. Oh, yeah. Yes. Somebody did say that about my jerk chicken. It was, it was, it was, it was good. It was authentic. But I think I'm from the island. It's not mine. Man. So like, man, you know, last time you came on here, you had the movie, man. What did it say? Nice guys finish last. Like, that was the, that was the movie that, that first, you know, kind of drew me to you. Like, let's talk about that for a second. Like you took that movie. You independently, you know, built that movie up. You went and you, you went and got your own editing. You did your own casting call. You pretty much wrote your own, what did it call it? Script. Script. You, you did everything on your own, man. If you had it to do all over again, would you change the thing? Man, honestly, I would not. I took myself to film school. That was the best lesson I ever learned. And, and now that I see how the game works is lovely, man. And I was able to kind of sit back and watch guys like Tyler Perry and appreciate what they do. And now I see how and why he operates the way he operates. He said from the beginning, don't sell your product. Okay. Don't sell your product. And I came into the game with that mindset because I heard what he said. So it was guys like him that gave me the game. I took it, developed it, learned it, went away, went my own route because you can't, you can try to follow other people's route, but you know, I went my own route. So, and I, when I talk to other creators, I tell them, let's look at like Marlon Wins and his family. They create a scary movie, right? They don't own the rights to that. If they wanted to go make another scary movie, they can't use none of the characters in that movie. They can't, they can't use nothing affiliated with that movie. They can't do it. So they created the movie. They created it. They came up with the idea. They came up with the name. They wrote the script. They shot it. They produced it, but they don't want it. But somebody else put a budget on everything behind it so they ended up. Yes, they probably did have that. They probably did have that. But you don't necessarily have to sell your rights over to the person that financed the movie. But that's basically what they did. But they've been in business so long, so why would they get caught up in that? So just like the rap game, you know, every time an artist gets signed, they seen old years down the line, they'd be like, ah, everybody get what on their first deal. So that was part of the game back then. Cube, he owns Friday. Well, he used to own Friday. He doesn't own Friday. That's why we cannot get another Friday. He sold it? He sold it. Why would he do that? Well, Paramount, not Paramount, but New Line Cinema owns that project. When y'all see Friday, it comes on New Line Cinema. That's the reason why he cannot do another Friday. He has to get permission to do that movie because he does not own the rights. But he used to own it. He came up with the idea and created it. He never really owned it? He never owned it because New Line Cinema bought it from him. So they have to agree for him to even make a new Friday? Yes, that's why he cannot do that. So people that keep asking the question, when is the Friday going to come out, Cube? When are you going to do another one? It's something that has to be strategically done. And I'm saying they wouldn't do it with him because he is Ice Cube and he does a lot. But he would really have to go in and convince them to be able to do another one. Correct. He needs to come out with another one called The Sixth Class. So he can do that. But he still can't use any of the same character's names because that name, image and likeliness belongs to New Line Cinema. So you can't even do it like that? It's changed like a letter and it's... He can't base nothing off of it. The storyline of the character is nothing because they'll come back and sue for something he created. So that's where, again, I know the game, I own the rights to nice guys when it's last. This is my movie. And when it get ready to come out, or when it did come out, like I say, the only person that receives the checks for it is me. So if somebody come out with a big enough bag and say, I want to buy this, you tell me you wouldn't give in? Yeah, if I lose. See? Just like everybody else, you know? But this is my first one too, though. So I already know that bag going to be big enough to where I can do it. And when he did Friday and I was back in the day. It was. So, you know, he didn't know it was going to be as big as what it ended up being. True, true. I mean, just think about, like, corning the phrase, if he could have just copyrighted by Felicia. They got a whole show named after that. Wow. And who uses more than black people, white people? Really? Yeah, they use by Felicia way more than us. By Felicia? Just thinking, Peter, you know, got that, like, I mean, as much as they don't like them, we are pop culture. How hard was it trying to dis-tribute that movie coming from an independent angle like you did? You know what, bro? And I'm about to give y'all some real game. So when I came up with the idea that I was going to shoot my own movie, I didn't even know how I was going to finance it, but I knew I was going to get it done somehow. I was like, if I could just get about this amount. Code hit, some funds came through. I was able to kind of use that. I picked up a second job, used that, put that towards it. And I was like, I, I wasn't expecting to pay this much money for it, so I can't just put it out there on the internet for free. So I was like, I know I can get it on Prime Video or 2B. I know I can get it on there. I just got to figure out who I got to come to talk to. When you put that out there and come to you, somebody reached out to me and was like, hey, man, I think I can get your movie on here. By the time they reached out to me, though, I had already been doing some networking. And I checked this out right here. Again, what you put out when you do good work and you meet good people and you do good things, they come back to you. I went to a movie premiere. Shout out to my big bro Lazarelli song. Good brother, man. He's a film. He's a writer, director and producer. He just did a movie called Christmas Angel starring Little Romeo and Danny Lay. They just did a premiere. I did the Q&A for him, but he recognized who I am from social media. That's why you should be posting no matter how many followers you get. You just never know who watching who see, who see you. So he saw me and recognized me at his movie premiere and he was like, hey, man, I see what you're doing. He was like, you're the type of person that I'll bring under my wing. So he was like, what are you plans on doing for distribution? And I was like, ah, that's kind of what I'm working on. He was like, well, I tell you what, this is what I do. I'll put you in contact with some people and I'll help you get distribution. I'm like, I bet. Do y'all realize this dude took my movie, my little old movie with no big stars, put it on BET's desk. So when we was here, y'all didn't, we had, I didn't have none of that. I didn't have none of that, right? I had no idea. So for this, this might be my first film it made it to BET. Wow. So with it being a first film, no big stars, no big names in it, right? I'm the star in it. I'm also starring in it. Right. For it to make it that far. That's good. You know, I can say that. But not only that, we all know trash when we see it, right? If it come through the door, they'll look at it like, nope, immediately, almost immediately they throw it right out the window. They set on it for like about two, two and a half months. Wow. So I'm like, hey. He was probably worried the whole time. So he takes me, he was like, so what numbers are you thinking? He was like, would you accept? So I'm like, man, I don't know. This is my first one. He was like, I think you, he was like, I think about 280 should be good for you. And then I was like, okay, bet. He was like, we'll start out with that and about then he was like, we might can negotiate up to about 350. Because you know how much you put into it and you know how much you had to pay everybody and stuff like that. Right. Right. So he was like, I think we give about 350 for it. So I was like, I don't know. We'll see. So he was like, well, they got it. They sitting on it. He was like, with it being the the end of the year, you know, they kind of coming back into the office and they looking at stuff. Ultimately, they decided to pass on it because they decided they were looking for something with more women leads. And if y'all notice, which makes sense just about everything that comes out is they're catering to women. So y'all know the industry. They follow trends. So I was like, ah, that makes sense. So they decided to pass on it. But I'm like, those numbers was they thought it was good. So after it, after I realized what I had and it was something. And I was like, if this guy recognized my work and he's in the industry, just what he does for a living. He said it was good enough to, this is quote. He said, I've seen them pick up worst projects with big names in it. So I'm like, well bet, like I got something. So I didn't get that deal done. But I was like, you know what? I'm gonna reach back out to the person that said they can get it on Tubi. And I knew if it was good enough to be to make it to the desk there, I would get it on Tubi. Sure enough, the guy came back. He sent over the contract and negotiated a little price split with him. Next thing you know is on Tubi and it's been on there doing numbers. I get a quarterly check every year. So those of you who don't believe in Tubi. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I mean not every year. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Every month, every year. Quarterly. Quarterly check. You get a quarterly check from Tubi. Every quarter I get a check from Tubi. Well let me just say this and I talked to Faze On Love and Faze On Love just was on the show and he said, you know, let me show you what a Tubi movie does. And he started making an analogy on these Tubi movies and it was so hilarious and he's been in about 90-something movies to be honest with you. And he says that, you know, actually he said he was too good for Tubi. You know, I am, you know. And basically the biggest, you know, actors, some of them. Now you got to realize, now I did do Jamal Willard and Jamal Willard is always on Tubi. Tubi King. But at the end of the day, that's still not a level of the Faze On Movies, you know, Couples Retreat and all these other great Elf the Elf, you know, you can see that one come across in a minute. Like, so he kind of ties back from Tubi. You know what I mean? So is it a place where it's an entry level position or what? Honestly, I think he's speaking from a place of ignorance. Whoa, why do you think that? First of all, Tubi is owned by Fox. I told him that. Second of all, there are, I'm pretty sure multiple of his movies are owned Tubi right now as we speak. Oh, okay. I'm pretty sure. We can go on Tubi and pull up some of his movies because I'm pretty sure some of the movies that I've seen on there are like a lot of Adam Sandler movies and stuff like that. On Tubi now. On Tubi now. Because it never used to be because I honestly, I stopped watching, after I watched your show, I probably stopped watching Tubi because I was tired of going through, and this was probably the beginning of the year. I was tired of going through Tubi looking for movies. I don't like movies. Yeah. Looking movies. Your quality is good. Your quality is good. And I've had another guy who came in here and showed me his movie when it was about to come out. And it was Immaculate. And it was going on Tubi as well. Yeah. So I know there are some great quality movies on Tubi, but you just have to search for them. Well, you know what? And that's, you know, that's, you know, I have one regret that I say about my movie being on Tubi. What? I wish I had made it worse. So it won't happen. I wish I had at least had one, like a real bad hiccup or something because those are the movies that go viral. And I, so every quarter, my distribution company sends me a quarterly receipt of what I earn, what my movie earned. And those are the people that are signed with this distribution company. I get to see their movies and what they did too. And it's some. And when you went out there and watched that movie, you know, I feel like mine was just, just better quality, better acting, better talent, better storylines for some of them. But again, it's what you, what you, you, you market. Some of them have a team. Shout out to Devin Bray. That's somebody you need to talk to. So y'all, I don't know if y'all remember the PPP long gone wrong movie. That movie did some real numbers. But he has his whole family, kind of like what you guys got going on. He got his daughter, his son, his wife, all of them are working with them. They all got the, they created the Tubi movie group. They got over 400,000 subscribers, man. So they, they are the, the marker, man. They're independent. They're a family and they shoot movies. There wasn't their first movie, but it was like they're second or third. It took them a while to figure it out. But what you put in, man, you get out, if you can get you a good team, especially got your family supporting y'all create the group and going in, it's going to pay off. And I'll tell you, I have seen their quarterly numbers versus mine. And it was like, they are doing another. So put it like this phase on. And, you know, not no, well, I don't care. It is what it is. My cousin said, he said, man, forget what anybody else got to say about anything. He was like, until they write, direct, producing, starting their own movie. They can shut up. Wow. So he was like, it's niggas in Hollywood have been out there their whole life. Phase on. I ain't seen you do that yet. I'm just saying. Yeah. Directors. Yeah. But he wrote direct, produced. He probably had. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to ask you. I don't know. I'm just saying, like, when you think about just the whole game, like, what kind of budget would you give a guy like a phase on or a Tiffany Haddish or who else? Just dammit hard. Denzel. Like, you would have to have a hell of a budget to get them in a movie that was going to pop on in a blow on to be for show. But your money got to be right to get them type of caliber people in. And to make it back. Well, see, that's the thing. That's the thing though. I feel like, I know, see, I can't stand right here when I see it. I know for a fact that he can call in and say, hey, like he was talking about cute. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on. Do it for me, man. He say, cute paid him with 5,000 to do Friday. I ain't never know how much you paid him. It's 5,000. That's what I said. I don't see them on interviews. So I'm going to tell you this right here. That was a long time ago. It was. But I can tell you this right here for the most part just about all these you can you can book them for a day or two to come in, shoot they scene and get on down. OK. So it just depends on you. You got to work their relationship. He got a relationship with these people. He ain't got to pay them that much. You know what I'm saying? So it just depends on who he is, who he is in your relationship. He can shoot a nice movie for the nice budget. And with that being said, when you wrote, produced and starred in it, you're paying yourself for all those roles, right? You own that content. You own those images that name images like this. Let's say it gets on and do those numbers. Fox. They're not. So that's one thing about Hollywood. They're not going to let you make too much money without them. They're going to come and call it. So those quarterly checks that you you collect in every quarter, every four months, they're going to be like, hey, look, we want to finish your next movie. He might say, well, I tell you what, I want to continue to own it. If we do that, we can negotiate where we split but I want to own a majority of it. Again, the reason why they going on strike is because actors are struggling for work, right? They're not getting paid off those residuals. I promise you, most of those residual checks, like he said, he didn't talk about that. I don't know why she didn't do that. I've been on here on residuals. That started on Boston. He was talking about the residuals really wasn't much. And you don't give residuals from any of it, but I promise you. No, no, no. He said the residuals he gets. Whatever it is, why they struggling. They cover insurance, health, all that stuff. Right. But do y'all get sacked? No, I'm not sacked. I'm not sacked. But this is what I'm seeing though. I get a, every time a person watched my movie, I get paid. If he was just the face of a movie, people are going to watch it because it's face on. So this is what I'm saying. So the way it works is like, it's called impressions. It's a little bit different from YouTube. Y'all know. Y'all know. So as long as people are watching your movie, clicking on it and watching it long enough just for ad to pop up, which y'all know, it's a little bit different though. So hopefully SAG is, they've renegotiated the contract of where they'll be a little bit more honest and show us exactly how we get paid. But as long as people are clicking on that movie and watching it for ad to pop up, you finna get some money to come in. $7.97 per ad. But it depends on how many people watching too. But if you stay the whole movie, you get more ads and you get more money. And so it goes up because the higher the ads, they start seeing, like, okay, face on movie is doing numbers. The people who pay the most for the ads gonna start putting their ads on that movie. So that means the average pay gonna go up. So instead of being $70.95, the more it go up, the higher the ads go. So I understand what you're saying, but it's definitely people on there making six-figure checks every quarter. And I've seen it with my own eyes and they didn't do nothing giving me more motivation to do it. So you're saying there's people on Tubi that's making six figures every quarter. Every quarter. Every quarter, okay. Every quarter. So this is what's making it harder right here. Y'all just pointed that out. Somebody like me who a little man, I'm the only one pushing my movie, right? I can't I can't compete with Big Daddy with Adam Sandler. I can't compete with Elf. Those movies are on Tubi. So those big movies are starting to figure out we can get some more money about putting it on Tubi. So that pushes us down. Now it used to be like you said, you just said it. It used to be more independent and people was going on and watching it. We was getting the big books but now it's pushing us down. So now we got to figure out another way to kind of compete, get the marketing. Now I got to build me a team kind of like Devin Bray and create some groups and all that type of stuff. But I have seen literal six figure numbers with receipts showing what they've earned because they show everybody that's within my distribution company's numbers. So with the the amount of money you spent for your movie how long did it take you to recoup your funds if you've recouped it already? I recouped my funds. First of all when I did my first premiere my first premiere I sold it out in Little Rock. I gained over half of that back just off the first premiere. Then my first two quarters I gained it back. I was in the green. My first two quarters. Wow. You did your casting call. I did. You just hypothetically ride with me for a minute. You did your casting call. You had this young lady that helped you. You told me about her. Yes. She helped you. And then I think you said Monique Reid. Monique Reid. And there was a few more ladies. I seen the movie. It was nice. Everybody was in there. The women and the men was having challenging moments. But just hypothetically you did this and say 15 years later one of those girls come back and say that C James that she felt like she was harassed in a way. You know what I mean? How do you defend that? Because I'm looking at a lot of cases coming up on different celebrities that there was a thing in New York where they had this deal and they was basically trying to these people are trying to defend things that happened years ago. Even Luke mentioned one. There's a lot of them like how do you guard yourself from something like this happening being that you're in a business where you deal them frequently with females that come around you. Man, we're going to put it out there. We know you're talking about Diddy. Diddy's one of them. It's a bunch of them. It's Diddy. Who else was it? Jamie Foxx. Jamie Foxx. Who else? Marcellus Wiley. Marcellus Wiley. What's that pretty soon? Liora Cohen. Like how do you guard yourself in these situations because they're going to come for you if the opportunity presents itself and there was anything how are you friends or old ex-girlfriends coming back? You know what? First and foremost, we shot my movie in Arkansas so the statues and limitations on that is different than the state of New York. I think they probably one of the only states where you can go back that far. New York is. New York is. Second of all, I'm always a professional. Third of all, I always had witnesses with me. You weren't going to catch me by myself. If any of the ladies, if you noticed actually within the movie, it wasn't a lot of like touchy-filly type stuff. I shot mine doing COVID. I didn't know what you had. I wasn't trying to die. This was in the beginning of COVID. So I didn't know what, you know, when we first heard the person was going to get cold, we thought it was a turn of the zombies or something. I wasn't trying to kiss too many people, but I made sure that I was going to be professional and not touch anybody. You know, I made them feel comfortable or anything like that. But the only way to protect yourself is to keep witnesses and to keep people around you. Don't be participating in any type of predatory behavior. We know what's wrong for right. The things that I hear, and I hate to hear this. I don't mind speaking on the daily situation and just to throw this out here too. Again, you just never know who's watching, right? My movie was actually being considered for Diddy's platform, for Revolt. Revolt. Revolt. You know, he just stepped down. I saw that. So with that being said, I could have actually been a partner or been working with him. That was actually the numbers we was looking at around 200 with that. So the person who helped edit my movie has a relationship with them, and the VP of Revolt reached out to him and asked what he had. And he saw my trailer. He was like, I like it. It was around this time. Unfortunately, it was the end of the quarter and they had spent all the budget up for the quarter. That's probably, other than that, my movie probably would have been on Revolt, you know what I'm saying? But I hate that Diddy's is in this type of situation. Then again, when you look at it, a lot of times I look at my boy Diddy Man and I feel like everybody that was around him feel like they don't really mess with him too much, no more. Why? So, you know, we look at all the artists, all of them be like, nah, I don't really mess with Diddy no more. He screwed us over. He screwed us over. He screwed us over. So I just be like, man, try to put out good energy, man. And I understand you're supposed to read the contract. Again, that's why I'm an NBA. I went to school. I try to make sure I read stuff and make sure I get the best deal out of it. I know we all get screwed and I don't want to work with anybody to make it that feel like I screwed them over. So even with this movie right here, say if I'd be like, boss talk, hey man, I'm shooting a movie. Use somebody now. This ain't four, five years ago. You got a brand. You got a name, right? You might be like, hey man, you got to pay me. I'd be like, boss talk, man. I ain't got much, but I'll tell you what, I'll give you a percentage of a movie. Every quarter, you know, I'll break you off somehow about that. That's kind of like points. Phase one, I know about some stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? So it's stuff like that. They're like every quarter, you can own a percentage of it. So I even try to do all that at the beginning. Nobody believed it. And guess what? I'm the one collecting the chicken at the end of the quarter right here though. But nobody believed me though. Everything happens for a reason. Everything happened for a reason. I put it into work. I tried to, I promise you every step of the way, y'all remember the story about the chicken where she was like, y'all want to help me plant the grain? Nobody would help. Y'all want to help me grind it up? Nobody help? Y'all want to help me gather it and everything? Y'all want to help me cook it? Everybody smelled the cooking and everybody wanted to eat with them, but then nobody wanted to help put it into work. So I kind of feel like that, you know, with that. But it's all good though. I know that you have to be able to track and get it to run in the end. Of course, people don't have to get on and want to ride with you. Let me ask you this, man. You a parent. You a father. Yes. How many kids you got? I got two. Two. I mean, you know, and they get, you know, they're going to grow up, you know. I've been watching things lately, man, and I've seen where T.I. T.I. had an issue with King. I didn't see the, I heard the stuff, you can't help me, boy. You can't help me. You know, it was over there. Like it was going in. Like, and this being a parent dealing with a child who's grown up now because he's of age. I think he's about in 1920 now. Yeah. So like to see this unfold like it did, you know, we love T.I. family. Oh, I love going in and stuff like this. So like, I'm just trying to... We started to grow up. Yeah, we seen them kids grow up on camera. Actually, you know, they're going to T.I. with my kids and they're 18 now. Yeah. So, you know, and my daughter's 18, but on that picture, she probably was about seven when she took that picture with T.I. But like, what do you think when you see T.I. and his kids scuffling on there like that? Man, I could go so many ways with this. I love talking about stuff like this. So I'm from Little Rock, Arkansas. I don't know if y'all know that. Shout out to Little Rock, Arkansas, baby. Shout out to Little Rock, Arkansas, baby. So we kind of known for the wrong things. Little Rock, Arkansas, hell, they... I know y'all from banging down there. It was nice. The wrong thing. The wrong thing. So with that being said, I grew up doing that era and I think I texted and told you one of my buddies was just saying he watched my old Boston. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did. And he was talking about, man, I'm so proud of you. I mean, I didn't know you had that many degrees. He was like, yeah, you really came up from nothing. One of our buddies just passed away. Last week, we buried him Sunday. Wow. He's one of my buddies that raised me in the hood, but R.P. Deshaun McKeever, but he actually taught me a lot, you know, took him up under his wing, but they didn't realize how young I was out there with him. So he's 10 years older than me and I think the guy who just texted me, he's 14 years older than me. So he was like, hold on. You 37. So he was like, you wasn't even 10 years old. He was out to be like, I was like, like you was out there with us in the streets. Like out there with us. So I got to see a lot at a real young age. And it'd be funny though, like when I see people like King and I'm like, Nick, I was outside. You wouldn't. Or you had to go in when the street lights came on. Like you went off the porch. You remember I talked about being off the porch. I literally met men off the porch and one of my other homies, he saw the boss talk interview. He was like, everybody that know me from the hood, they call me Sidgy. He was like, let's Sidgy. He was like, off the porch. He was like, you ain't even on the porch. I'm like, we get off the bus. You stand in the car waiting on that. He was like, you ain't on the porch. But it's funny though because I got to see a lot of cats I grew up with that I knew really went about their life and turned out to be like King. I'm like, bro, you didn't have to make that choice. You come from a two-parent home and y'all kind of talked about it early with the music. I feel like a lot of times I wouldn't say we glorify the struggle or the gangster rap lifestyle, but they feel like I think some people are still trying to find themselves and King is one of those again. He's two-parent home, parents got money, probably got whatever you wanted. He had to have been disciplined to a certain point, but not really to a point to where he should be more respectful to his parents and actually appreciate what they have done to him. So it sounded like to me he complained about going over to his mama house or grandmother house and being taken care of over there as well as his parents being able to provide him money and all that. He never had to sleep on the road since then. They talked about what they went through to help raise him. I don't know if he is being other appreciative right now, but man, straighten up. Don't try to be a part of what you didn't have to be if that makes sense. But do you blame somewhere along the line King feel like it's okay to disrespect publicly his father? That don't just happen. No, I don't. For me being a person who have kids, my kids right now like my grandmama taught me something. She said if you play with a puppy, he'll lick you in the mouth. Yeah. And if you play with a child, he'll show sass you out. You know what? Yeah. They remind me so. Hold on, hold on, hold on. My grandmama also told me, she said son, you go out there and you can take that twig and you can bend it any way you want to. But when it become a tree, you can't do nothing with it. Yeah. Grandmama is preaching. That's real. That's real. So what I'm saying is this is not the first time. Do you think that this is something that you, when you train a child up to where the God say in the way it did, it should go. They won't depart from it. Right. They won't depart. When you see this thing happening to go straight to King, I don't think it's fair. No, it's not. You see what I'm saying? I don't think it's fair because King has been reared up a certain way. Yeah. We didn't see everything on the family hustle. Thanks. We seen partial. He missing that though. He said that. We only see. He said, I really know. Yeah. You know, I know you. Yeah. So it was some things that they don't talk about. They don't share with us in which is rightfully so. But he's still his father. Yeah. That part, he can never be wrong because he's still his father. Yeah. And he in the household with him and he reared him. He brought him up. He's still there. Yeah. How many fathers not there anymore? It's a lightning. You see what I'm saying? But I can't just blame everything on King. This is a, I think this is a family hustle. Yeah. I agree. That's actually what I was getting at. You actually kind of pointed on that with, it was an Instagram poster came up. It said, a guy was saying how to raise your kids. It was like, whatever you do, deliver what you say you're going to do. It was like, that's how you raise the perfect kids. So don't tell them you're going to do something. Don't do it. I feel like it probably was a lot of that. You know, with them probably being on camera and being in public eye. At the same time, he going through court cases. He got locked up for a minute. He was, he was gone. So we, we got to put all in effect. Like, just because they got money and in the public eye, don't mean they're not going through stuff. A lot of us going through stuff. Because we, They're human being just like everybody else. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. But I feel like he got some stuff. He probably mad at it because he probably was on the road doing a lot. Like I say, he got locked up for a little bit. He couldn't probably discipline him like he wanted to, because if the police get called out to the house one more time, he going to jail. He on probation. So, you know, people can be manipulative and, and, and the family dynamics kind of play a big factor in a lot of what we have going on. So I always, that actually reminds me this right here too. I always tell people, research and family history. So we don't know what type of background to your dad or mom, or anybody come from some, any type of mental illness or, or same thing with tiny vice versa. So research, do your family tree. Learn where you come from. Because it'll start to come out of your kids. The apple don't fall too far from the tree. So, and then you already being, like you say, even though you, you take the, what they say, you can take the knee out of the hood, which can't take the hood out of the knee. That's right. So, you know what I'm saying? I'm not even just that, what a lot of parents always do, and is, you know how you always tell your kids, don't do this, don't do that, but you kids see you doing the same thing that, and you know, parents will be like, well, I'm grown. But you telling them, so now that they're grown, what you gonna do? They, again, I put them far, far from the tree. They see you doing it. The actions speak loud in the words. So. Well, you know, the thing I definitely, I just think about, you know, when you look at all the different things that go on, you know, when you choose the lifestyle to be rich and famous, you know, one of these people that want to have all of these different things, you know, you put your family out there. I've done that in a sense with my wife and kids, because of this show. Like, we was very private from early on, and I think that's one of the things, you have to be very careful to know that you gotta have, like my wife said earlier, when we wasn't on camera, some tough skiing. Oh, yeah. You have to deal with this climate. You know what I mean? Yeah. People seeing you, people recognizing you, people knowing who you are. Yeah. You know, this is something that these guys been dealing with forever. Yeah. So kudos to them, man, but when you see, like, you look at, you listen to music a lot? Yeah. Um, I've seen, I think I've seen Slim Thug say, you know, that pretty much was saying, man, I like people that, that's going on Vlad TV. Uh-huh. You know, he felt like they need to quit. And then some people, you crossed that over in the sand. He was saying that Boosie need to stop going on Vlad TV. Yeah. Um, some people say, Boosie make, make a lot of money over there with Vlad TV. So, you know, and I like, I like seeing Boosie talk. I mean, I think Boosie's smart. Out of everybody, I think he knows how to handle himself on Vlad TV. I can say that. Yeah. He's, Vlad says some stuff that he didn't want to speak on. He knows how to turn that. Yeah. He's not somebody that, he's smarter than he acts. Boosie's a slick sucker. Yeah. See, he acts dumb, or he acts crazy, or he acts radical. But then he's smart. But behind, behind the doors, he's not, a lot of times, he's a thinker. I've seen him get political on some scenes. Oh, he's a thinker. After speaking out on it. So, anytime you can go and face a life sentence like he did, and be the life sentence like he did, come home and still be able to maintain business like he's doing. He's not a dummy. Independently doing most of the things as you know, the movie he put out, and all the stuff that he's done. The, the bad, what was that thing called? Boosie bad. Yeah. Boosie gone. Gone wild. No, gone bad. Yeah. But, like he's done a lot of strategic things on his own dollar, on his own dime. But at the end of the day, he goes and does the Vlad interviews. What do you think about that? Do you think that's something that he makes his, his career look positive? Or is it something that kind of overshadows him in, in, in a cloud of gloom? I think that Boosie has found his niche. He's been a person that's faced life in prison. And he has said, out his own mouth, I ain't missing no more money. He's going to get it all. He's going to get it all. He was like, I done been to jail and in the dried up, but he was like, if I nearly want to pay me to feed you, I don't care what the song is. I'm, I'm hopping on to the aim, missing no more money. And he done, he done figured out his niche to make some, another, another dollar. And if you see him, he here, he here, he here, performing there, performing there. He going viral. The, the boy that he's shooting movies. He, he's like, hey, time is limited. I'm going to get it how I can. And I'm not knocking them on how he getting this money. Um, so far he, he seems like he know how, know what to do to go viral here lately. And get people around up. And I was actually questioning if, if he was actually doing this on purpose, which I think he may have been, um, like, oh yeah man, they copy my music. They make people, they make people go back and listen to his music. They make people go listen to their music. That's smart. I didn't even think about that. It's a win-win. I wouldn't be surprised if they both come together. And it was like, Hey bro, missing my stuff. Like I'm copying you. Like that's making, but everybody music go up. Making everybody music go up, making everybody algorithm peak. Yeah. He's, he's definitely doing some things that I just basically, you never know in this internet world, bro. Yeah. You never know. It's things that happen that make people, you think it's bad. It might be good. I was, Tiffany had this, I seen on holding court, my boy big court had on there. Yeah. She was kicking it. Um, they was talking. She was sitting back. She was kicking it. The next time I looked around the next day, actually, after seeing that TMZ show that she, uh, was drunk and they caught her at, with a DUI sleep at the dang stoplight. Yeah. These people are human too, man. Man, what? And this is the second one. This is the second one. Like, what do you think the strike is affecting her, making her not be able to work and it's, it's, it's confusing in this situation. I know the strike. Now that's one thing for sure. The strike has affected everybody. Not, I guarantee your face on which she had a movie that was bringing in some money. I'm not doing that strike. I guarantee. So, what do you think, you think she just, you think it's because of her not having the things, you know what I mean? She has, to keep her, to keep her busy. She, well, she has said that all her money is dried up and then the strike on top of that, you know, they, they basically blackballed her because of that, that sexual assault incident. But, What sexual assault incident? Well, no, I wouldn't say assault, but, um, what they say, grooming incident where she and, uh, uh, Erie Spears were doing a skit that was, uh, sexually seductive with kids. What? Yeah. Um, I ain't never hear about that. They counseled her. How long ago was that? Uh, a couple years ago. They called her. They called her. They, well, it was a skit that, it went too far. They didn't think anything of it. I, I, I know they, they didn't, they probably didn't expect it to, to do what it did. And they, they probably had good intentions that was kind of making the fun of, making fun of pedophiles. Wow. So, um, I, I know, you know, they were very subject with that type of stuff. So they should have thought about that. Right. Um, but she kind of got counseled, uh, before that. And then once the strike hit, that affected everybody. A lot, a lot of celebrities and stars are complaining about that. Like, like Tyler Perry said, all right, it's time to accept what they all friend so we can go back to work, because as an actor, face on, you don't know when your next job gonna come. But they could only strike for so long, you know, they're not gonna be striked for like years, two years. Yeah. Because people gotta eat. Like you say, if you, if nobody's filming anything and you're not writing and putting out your own projects, you depending on somebody else to cash you in the project, you ain't getting nobody coming in. Yeah. No, I, I definitely understand that. Um, next movie, like what, what do you foresee, uh, the next project being about, like, like, have you already rolled it out? I, I have wrote, I'm writing, I'm writing on it some more. Um, it's a romantic drama. Um, I don't want to tell too much on it. You love romance, don't you? Well, I, I, sometimes I just, I just kind of sit back and think about some of the, some of my favorite movies. And then I'm like, I would like to, uh, try to recreate something like that or similar to it. So, I'll, I'll study the, uh, audience and see if I can try to, uh, find my niche within an audience and market to that audience. Kind of like, with nice guys, spend his last, which I must have been onto something with that. Obviously, because I won some awards. Um, won Arkansas Times Filmmaker of the Year. I got, uh, the Trailblazer Filmmaker, uh, award through the, uh, Martin Luther King commission. Man, who grants? Appreciate it. Appreciate it. And I think I'm actually the first black person to ever win Arkansas Times Filmmaker of the Year, honestly. Wow. Yeah. Um, I've gained some recognition from other celebrities. I ran into that on TV. He was like, I ain't watching it, but it was like, I know it's, I've seen Australia. He said, it looked good. It was like the quality and everything looked good. So, um, Wheel Packer, uh, kind of heard about me following you on Instagram, man. And like I say, people out here on the street, they may not say that. It was, as long as the periods of monks be giving me props, I'm good. I'm doing my job, man. So, man, I wanted to ask you something. Did you look at that? Yes. You know what I'm saying? I saw that. I was like, I lost it. I was like, that's crazy. That can create you. Like AI is creating things. It's a tonight at nine. You see how to make it look like it's a movie tonight at nine. Like, what do you think about AI and the process of people can take like a, a documentary, right? Yeah. And, and this is something I talked to Larry Hoover Jr. about last, when I was up there, because they're taking and making documentaries and they taking people lives and putting it out there. And then they, you know, do a, what their voice over. Yeah. And they're, and it seems so real and it's so real that, because AI is so good, it can make anything sound so seamlessly real. Yeah. So, when you see that and you see how it's pushing our, our algorithm, man. And, does that concern you? Because it concerns me. Like, I've been looking at this like, damn, like, they can really take a movie almost and created without the actors. Yeah. So that, as it comes. Yeah. Just like we ain't even everything else, you got to do your research. So, you can actually get in and take advantage of what's going on and actually not get taken advantage of. So, that's funny you asked that question. I was on the panel a few months ago. It was me, Romeo Miller and a few other people that's in the film industry back in Arkansas and that question came up. And Romeo and I spoke about it. And I talked about being careful and make sure you read the contracts and be careful about sign up on these different apps, utilizing your face to do these different things, right? So, like, if there's an app, there was an app going around that was making people into the Hogwarts people or different, making them look old and young. I remember that. If you read some of the fine print, it says that they own the rights to your name, your image and likeliness. So they can take that image and put it whatever and whatever they want. They want to put it on the porn video, which is easy to do. They can AI a porn video your face on there. You can't do anything about it because you signed away your rights to it. People don't read those fine prints for anything. No, they don't. But I'm just saying so that's the type of stuff that's scary about it. That's crazy. That's scary. So like you say, they may take your image and then just put it on a random picture. But okay, with that situation, that can also be sketchy because for people like us who are already in the limelight, so to say, or pictures already out there, somebody else can take our picture and put it on that app and do that. They can. We didn't give the permission so we can go after them because we didn't do it. You can. So people are already using Steve Harvey voice to do stuff. You understand? And they did not give them permission to do so. With these new songs, some people take Michael Jackson voice and put it on songs, redoing songs in different two-part voices. No, they can sue them. They can sue whoever owns it and they can sue. By how? Because they didn't give permission. Michael Jackson voice is out there. I'm going to take Michael Jackson voice and put it on something. I sometimes don't agree with some of that because certain tones is close to Michael Jackson. If you listen to him without seeing him, you can hear Michael Jackson in them because they probably like him so much. I don't think it's fair a lot of time because you got some creative people out there that might not even like if you got a person playing a beat. Sometimes a beat sounds like another beat and that person might have been creative enough to make it and people be blaming it on that other beat. It's a thin line. That's all I'm saying. I agree. It's a thin line. You're artistic. You might do something. You might have not even been thinking about somebody else. It'd be so close because it's just the universe brought it together that God let y'all think alike. Great minds think alike. You see what I'm saying? I agree with that but the way the world is set up is money hungry. It's money. You better have your stuff together. You better have your stuff together. Copy, write, and register your stuff and make sure you have your stuff out. You can find me on Instagram that's s-e-j-a-m-e-s-s-r-c. What was the best movie that came out this year? 2023. Yeah. 2023. Yeah. You know, Rider strike and all that. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Somebody got to win. I'd probably say and oh, I'm actually in a movie with him coming out soon. I'd say Mission Impossible. Okay. But I'm on cruise. I was like... No, it's the Hispanic guy in the movie. He's the villain. Okay. So, he saw Marella as Terrence Howard and... Terrence Howard? Yeah, Alec Baldwin. So, I'm in a movie with him. I got to ask you, but I'm glad you said that since you're all in the movie together. You and Terrence Howard, let me talk about that for a week. Hold on. We ain't going to stop it just yet. Hold on. Terrence Howard is saying that he said when you're trying to, you know... So, that brings us back to what we were seeing Sag, right? Yeah. Again, he said that's the reason why they're negotiating Sag is because they weren't paying what's... You got to make sure you negotiate your contract, right? At the beginning, like he said, he was trying to pay his rent. That movie won all type of awards. They screwed him with behind them, then used his actual name for... as the artist to rap those songs. That song was being playing all over. He ain't getting no publishing. He ain't getting no publishing. None of that. Well, I had a guy on here shout out to Mario Kennan say that when he was on a empire with Terrence, Terrence got him fired because he said I was making $80 a episode and he was making $80,000 and he got me fired off the set. I was his double and he says he don't know why he done it. But then, you know, I kind of feel like what goes around comes around. Are we sure? That's his side, huh? Oh, no. I'll just say it. That's his side. Get to your Terrence. That's his side. That's his side. Terrence Howard is more than welcome to come and say his side. Okay. Mario's upset about that. You can make him watch that episode. He's pretty... I'm going to send it to you. So when you were extra or stand in, that's about the going rate between like $80 to $100 and maybe $200 a day. Yeah. Yeah. Depending on what you're doing. Um, that's at the time when he shot that I'm sure the sag minimum was probably $150 a day. That's a day, you know, for your whole day's work. So he might have been making it, but I don't know why with Terrence Howard hit on another brother trying to do something to be somebody. He was making it sound like because he, everybody was liking him like on the set and everybody around and so forth. I think I'll never seen it. I like Terrence Howard. So everybody was liking him, especially the females on the set. He cut up. He like, he cut up. And Terrence didn't like that according to him. And he got him bumped off of it, man. I, I, he was cool. That's, that's your homeboy. So you take it up for it. Oh, that wasn't him, baby. That's his homeboy. You know, he going to see this and they working together. Well, Mario Keller said he got him bumped off. Come on boss talk. 101. Let's get to the bottom of it. Let's get his name resolved. Get it back in. Cause you know, Terrence was the first one to talk about him. Jamie Foxx talked about him, too. Shout out to all you niggas. Thank you man. Hey man. Thank you for coming on the show, man. Yes sir. We love you man. See James. Thank you so much. It's been another great segment of boss talk 101 where the boss is talk. And we have