 I just let your argument so you can tell me if it's right or wrong. Okay. Go ahead. Destiny try it. Okay. Thank you Okay, you're saying that Shokin supposedly left this investigation alone However, as soon as he started to lock up the assets of the guy that owned this company the reason companies Biden went and on behalf of his son Arranged a meeting with the lawyers of barisma holding those lawyers came over and in February They had a conversation with Biden where they were saying hey, this guy's fucking freezing the assets of the oligarch that owns our company Your son works for them. Okay, I need you to fucking do something and guess what one month later That motherfucker is fired and we've got Biden out here saying hey Guess what? I told him that if you don't fire that guy in six hours. We're walking out We're doing a quid pro quo. That's your whole fucking argument, right? No, that's not my argument, right? The part where you never heard it said dated by anybody that the reason why Shokin was gotten rid of was because of Biden and I've heard that part of the reason why Shokin was gotten rid of was because he refused to investigate things like barisma the idea that he's intervening to fire a guy That's already failing to investigate a company that his son is on the board of Like none of that makes sensor lines up so explain that for me originally You said it had nothing to do with barisma that it when I said they said what they said was he wasn't even investigating barisma Now you're saying actually I heard that they said that he wasn't investigating barisma. That's your position earlier I said that barisma was a small player in the totality of Ukrainian corruption. That's one I literally said my second claim I made was that a probe into barisma had already been abandoned by Shokin Those two positions are not contradictory. Now you see now You know fucked up I initially said one of the reasons they gave for getting rid of Shokin was that they said he wasn't investigating barisma You said no no no and now you're saying oh and also they said he wasn't investigating barisma Do you dispute that? No, I don't know what this has to do with anything you're saying about so the argument that he wasn't investigating Shokin Who was the head of the pgo? He wasn't doing an investigation. That's bullshit. That was a lie He was freezing their assets. That's how seriously investigation was What do you think happened immediately after this? Can you take a guess? Can I answer the question? Was he fired after you froze their asset? No, you know what happened the people from barisma's lawyers met the obama state department They sent them a letter which we have that says hunter biden works here We'd like to meet with you to get rid of these you know the slanderous claims about our founder and our ceo And then guess what happened a couple weeks later Joe biden went and said we're gonna withhold a billion dollars unless you fire this guy And they said we don't want to do that and then they said go ahead. Try me. I'm not leaving until he's fired Damn, I'm good Ironically Joe biden asked shokin to leave because the prosecutor failed to pursue that barisma investigation Not because shokin was tough and active with this case. Callan. You said okay So a couple things first off that just disputes your entire position That you started with because the last line you just read was the biden administration said that not prosecuting barisma was a reason Do you acknowledge that? It was one of many but that's different than what you said that article literally say this Rob Listen to me. I'm gonna say this one more time. If you don't understand, I'm just gonna leave I can't tell you being that faith or not barisma was not the center point for why he was fired I have not said that. I have never said that his inaction on barisma was one of many points Can you repeat those two things back to me so that you don't come out in the future when I say he wasn't active on barisma And then you go again. Oh, you just want to get yourself destiny. That was the reason why he wasn't Can you repeat the two points that I just made I could but I'm not a fucking child And what I'm going to do is go back in the video and see if that was your original stance Or if you said no one said part of the reason why Shoken was gotten rid of was because he refused to investigate things like barisma Now I'm just saying that you were wrong at the beginning. My claim was that there were people You want me to be wrong at the beginning and that helps you move on. That's fine. You're crazy, son. I'll bet you're dead So okay, the program says Ukrainian prosecutors have described no evidence indicating that Biden Start to help his son by getting shoken dismissed and I suggest that they have not discovered any such evidence Okay, okay. Now if I now fair enough So that guy who is saying in 2019 that there was no investigation whatsoever into shoken done or by shoken into That seems to be belied by the fact that we have actual contemporaneous proof that the investigation was ongoing and his assets were frozen Now you might say yeah, but it took him two years. Okay fair enough. That could be an argument, right? But then why would the biden administration or why would the obama administration send biden only a month after this? And in your article itself says they were upset that they weren't prosecuting when at this very moment That's the moment the obama administration would be like. Oh, shit. They are doing something So why would they then say well, you didn't do anything So now we want you fired when it's like but he's literally doing something. He literally froze their assets So what we see is what is the meeting is about? It's about barisma They're the lawyers for barisma talking about the spelling or what? I mean, what's the meeting about? I mean, come on destiny What do you think this is like at some point? I can't argue against anything you're saying, right? You're saying that like well, they had the meeting and we don't happen to meet but it's pretty obvious that in the meeting They asked to fire this guy and nobody else is saying that anybody asked to fire the guy And nobody's saying that it was because of the fire the guy and nobody's actually saying that he was even fired for Barista, but we know it's obvious because like I can't argue with any of that I don't know what you're saying. You're not even wrong. You can't argue. You can't argue because you can't follow a logic Can I just let your argument so you can tell me if it's right or wrong? Okay, go ahead destiny drunk Okay, thank you. Okay, you're saying that shoken supposedly left this investigation alone However, as soon as he started to lock up the assets of the guy that owned this company the barisma companies Biden went and on behalf of his son arranged a meeting with the lawyers of barisma holding those lawyers came over and in February they had a conversation with biden where they were saying hey This guy is fucking freezing the assets of the oligarch that owns our company your son works for them Okay, I need you to fucking do something and guess what one month later that motherfucker is fired And we've got biden out here saying hey, guess what? I told him that if you don't fire that guy in six hours We're walking out. We're doing a quid pro quo. That's your whole fucking argument, right? No No, that's not my argument right the part where you I was about to do that before you interrupted the part where you missed was it wasn't that biden contacted the lawyers It was once the assets were froze the lawyers decided to reach out to obama state department, which you would do, right? Yeah, right that makes sense that you would do that now You wouldn't do would you do you think when you had that meeting which we could confirm that they Set up the meeting at least from the email we could see correct Are you about to restate exactly what I said? No, I'm not right I'm not because it wasn't that biden reached out because he was like that's not what i'm saying happened I'm saying what happened was the assets were throwing their lawyers immediately met out They weren't meeting could you say it's most likely they weren't meeting about how the name barisma spelled would you admit that? I don't know what they were meeting for they could have been meeting for incredibly nefarious purposes Or they could have been meeting for incredibly obvious purposes Okay, the claim is that biden had this meeting saying he needed to be fired a full three months before this meeting was even set up Because my understanding is that this meeting happened in december of 2015 Right, that's what we call but if that meeting happened in december and this email was sent in february of 2016 The timelines don't really match up for that. Well, listen there. I'm going to steal me in your position. There is Evidence that biden. I haven't been able to find it But I've seen credible people say that this occurred that in december of 2015 that biden was saying we want shoken fired But that's not going to help because biden already knew shoken was in charge of the barisma investigation Whereas sunmark what matters is two months later when the assets are frozen. That's when the lawyers decide to go in action Why would the state department be taking meetings with people they think are corrupt and then it just so happens Around that time biden is talking to poroshenko saying we want you to fire this fucking prosecutor You're not getting this money in the context of the state department Miss trauma and tanoh said that barisma hadn't engaged in corruption and wanted to change the view of the company in Washington the former official said that hunter biden's position on the board Wasn't the reason that miss novelli took the meeting and that no further action was taken after it took place Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, so they said that they didn't buy the school No, color, let me ask you this it sounds like if in that email exchange, they actually use the name hunter biden Sounds like they weren't talking about the spelling of barisma. See is what this meeting is about. It's about barisma They're the lawyers I mean, what's the meeting of back? This is what I love and like i'm not trying to be like a huge dick here because like i'm not i'm not trying to like You know jump 100 on the fucking like oh, yeah, I know this for a fact join me at the same time So I want to meet with somebody and I say hey You know, I just want you to know that i'm boys with hunter biden So like I want a meeting and then they're like, okay. Yeah, cool. We can do a meeting whatever um and then uh during that meeting I say hey, um, you know just so you know like we're not corrupt like nobody needs to look into us We don't need to be investigated and just so you know like i'm boys with hunter biden And then the person leaves the meeting or a reporter's camera and says hey listen I know that hunter biden is uh, you know works there and she emailed me about it And it was also mentioned a couple of times during the meeting But that had no factor in how I made my decision making process whatsoever or whether or not I took the meeting in the first place Thank you for all your questions. You have a great day and like we're not Like like i'm not saying that like that is like in and of itself. It's the corruption I'm just saying like we just take that on face value. Why are we just taking that on face value? I don't know. I don't know because that's what's being reported I don't know that because that's what's being reported and that's the end of that chapter Gee, I don't know destiny Maybe that's because the so-called journalists and reporters that you trust are purposely withholding this information from you or aren't Investigating it at all which seems to be the case After all you can't save democracy without saving joe biden's ass from corruption charges and impeachment All right, folks. Thanks a lot for watching. Make sure to check out destiny and robert and war's channels I'll put all those links in the description and comment if you enjoyed this Please hit that like button share subscribe and make sure to leave a comment to vent those frustrations. Thanks a lot I'll see you all in the next one