 Everything you see today is an attack on the three primary institutions that God ordained within nine chapters of the first book of the Bible. You know, there is an attack on the church, there is an attack on marriage, there's an attack on government. You know, I see these Home Depot commercials, and I haven't been to Home Depot in a while, but in the commercials you see all the women doing the shopping for refrigerators for all this. And letting the husband know which one's the best one. Because every one of them are refrigerated repair women. And so, yeah, so you see this domino effect of this subtle attack on the marriage through that where the men have been dumbed down, the women have been elevated, which is against what the institution that God has called us to be, the priest of the home, and the woman to come and be a helper of the home. And I've seen recently, you guys, that even in that domino effect where the male seems to be dumbed down a little bit, that carries over into the marriage where they don't feel like they're good enough. And then especially in a time right now when maybe they're laid off and they're not bringing home the income, that even hits them harder. So now you see this domino effect of the esteem of a male or the man in the marriage being brought down. And you can see it's an attack from the enemy. How you see this little by little, the Satan's coming on and ripping off the foundation of what the institution of marriage is. And how have you, even as a couple, how have you safeguarded against that? I know who I am. And I read the Bible. You know, when you read the Bible and you see how God's word speaks to men, I just try to apply it to myself and we together try to do that. It's really, it's not that complicated. I think that every marriage has their own way of putting into practice the commands of the Lord. What it looks like in my marriage may not look identical to how it looks in yours. Because you are married to, live, I'm married to Marie, and we adjust to each other's differences. And I know how to exercise authority with her in a way that perhaps another husband with his wife has a different technique or a different way. There's nothing, I don't know any way that's the right way for everybody. But if you know your role, if you know what you are, who you are, and you seek the Lord about how I might be able to fulfill this, how do I do this in such a way that Christ is honored and our marriage is blessed. If you look at it that way and you take into consideration your wife is from a man's respect, my wife's personality, what shows the most respect for her, the most love for her while at the same time helping us together to decide what is best for us. And that's where it comes in. Because I think some men, I've met them, think that leading is basically telling the wife this is what you're going to do and it doesn't work that way. That wouldn't work here? No, it would not work. No, of course it wouldn't, because I'm not respecting a woman who is created in the image of God and I'm not regarding her gifts and I'm not regarding her as a person and I'm not valuing her as God's daughter. I'm denying all of those things and I'm becoming a bully. I don't want to be that bully. I want to be the one that she regards. I want to be the one that she respects as a man who loves her and puts her first. Because in the putting of her first, it doesn't mean I'm putting in any sinful desire she might have. Oh, I'm going to go spend money and buy this when we can afford it or I'm going to do that. I'm going out with the girls on Friday and you're going to babysit. None of that's going to work with me. And she knows that. But how did she learn that? How did she learn those things will not work? Because there are plenty of women who just do just what I said. They just go out. I'm gone for the weekend. We're going to go to a spa and I put money aside and let you know because I knew you'd get mad. But we have it and there's nothing really you could say because I'm going because I'm tired. There are plenty of marriages like that and you could reverse that. I hear ladies right now complaining in their own heart. Well, you men do that too and see that's part of the problem. We're always trying to say they did it. They did it too. You know, the point I'm making is real simple is that if you love one another, regard one another, if you respect one another, if you want to build one another up, if you see each other as a one another and you treat one another the way you would be treated like Jesus taught us in what is called the golden rule. If you do those things, then you're going to be able to work together. So I don't have to tell Marie you're going to do this and you're not that it's not that she won't by the way. I mean she will. She will because she submits us unto God and she will do it. But if I try that, I'll lose her love and respect. I would rather just say honey, this is what I see and I really feel we need to do this. And what do you think about that? Because we will talk and she can tell you this. So honey, I'm thinking we need to do this. But you know what? I don't want to decide this on my own. We need to decide this together. We just recently, I'll give you an example, we just recently as you know took a long road trip. We drove from here all the way to the state of Washington and all the way back. It was over 2000 miles of driving over 11 days of being gone. I didn't just walk in one day and say well you know I don't feel like standing in line at airports and all the garbage we're going to have to go through. I didn't do that. You know I said honey, I'm considering something but without your awareness and your input, I won't do it. And that's how I did it. So I said so I am considering driving and we can spend time together. We haven't had any time together for a while now. Randy and Jeanette Walls perhaps they can go with us and I think I'd like to consider that. What do you think? That's what I do with Marie. Why? Because she's going to invest 11 days of her life in a car. You know it's not just me driving. It's her in a car for 11 days. And I'm not going to do that without her saying I think that'd be great. Now I was planning on doing that. I thought it was the best thing but I'm not going to do that without her or willing heart. And I think that that doesn't show me to be a weak man. It shows a bit of just understanding of my wife dwelling with her according to knowledge knowing the things that matter to her. And that's where I think husbands need to learn some things. Some husbands and how to present their ideas and that's where some women need to begin to learn how to listen to ideas like that and be willing to sacrifice for the good of both of us. Because there are quite a number of men who will not sacrifice for the good of us. And there are quite a number of women who refuse to sacrifice for the good of us and the selfishness that sometimes is so there. Those are the things they have to die. So when I tell Maria, honey I'm tired and I don't want to go through that. That immediately makes you think how can I minister to my husband? You know what can I do to make him more comfortable? And yet at the same time when I say but I don't want to do anything without you saying this would be a good thing for us that frees her up because if Maria said honey you know to be honest with you I was thinking I have to do this this this then I just said we're gonna we'll fly for her sake because she needs to do something for the sake of you both for us it's always us it's always us it's never me it's always us. That's where people I think really fall short because it's not the two has become one now it's the one has become two they've have it backwards and and it's not for the greater good of us it's for the greater good of me that's it that's such an important principle and an application that is so practical and that really would fight off the attacks of the enemy because isolating one another is his tactic. If I can isolate my the husband from the wife the battle's half wine right? Absolutely you're right. If a house is divided it cannot right right it's doomed to fall so Maria and I we do really practice this John it's it's what we do it's all it's always us it's never you or me it's always and us this is how it affects the Rosales this is how it affects David and Marie and Marie and David. It's not Pastor David only Marie only it's Pastor David and Marie yeah it's always us yeah it's always us. We enjoy being together and we aren't always together when he leaves here you know he'll come home to me and we'll have dinner and enjoy ourselves and it's it is us it's us all the time we'll go to the store together go get coffee together. Drive to Washington together. Drive to Washington together. Well you know there are people who can't do that John you know that they can't stay in the car together like that it's just to no they can't they have nothing to talk about yeah they have nothing to talk about because Marie and I have a running conversation is what it is and when we've been talking together since our first date that's a that's a truth I mean that's how it started we talked for 11 hours our first date yeah yeah we've we've we've we just like each other you know I like talking to her and she apparently likes listening to me that's how it works it's always been that way we haven't we've never been any different we didn't have to learn I wasn't this guy who said what is interesting to you it's interesting to me now I'm not that guy it was like this is what's interesting to me and if you like it good if you don't I'll find somebody who does you know and what Marie it was like for some reason she goes oh that's interesting so that's right it's just us you know so we've got all these years of building on the us so we can be stuck in a car together for all those days hours upon hours and and we we enjoy it it's it's not like gosh I gotta drive another year don't worry it's not like that well you know when we're on our way to Israel was it sitting next to you guys but on our way back yes it's a constant ongoing dialogue that you guys have when we go yeah yeah and it's it's good to see that because yeah you're right there's people I know even that I know well that they couldn't be in a car two hours together you know and we can also sit next to each other for two hours and still be good yeah that's that word yeah yeah we do that too and it's good right I mean it's like we feel closer than saying all these words I mean it just there's that that connection ongoing that is beneath the conversation it's the connection well when we fly there's sometimes the seats aren't as close to each other as we like it to be and it bugs us because she'll tell me she'll say she go I can't really I can't really talk to you because they kind of twist they turn them that way yeah yeah I don't like that we like to be shoulder to shoulder we do other people get congested I don't I actually the way I'm sitting with her right now I'm very comfortable like that you know we're always pretty much like this it's just who we are and that's part of again the us yeah that's all about us