 Next question is from I am sofa king awesome What are the pros and cons of having a workout partner? Oh mostly cons. Yeah, you know what though? I can see so okay So a majority think about all the years you guys have been working out What percentage of it would you say is with a workout partner and what percentage of it? Would you say is now very first quarter? Yeah, that's what I would say It was from then on out You know what's funny is I bet you most people who've been training consistently for more than let's say seven or eight years Probably follow something similar like in the beginning. They probably worked out with a workout partner and then eventually You know went off on the same way. I want to believe that but I I found in the bodybuilding community It's not bodybuilding community. Everybody loves to work out together, man They it's like they have a workout partner and they're about it man. They meet up. Really? Yeah, at least in the now Is it mostly for pre-contest or is it off season all the time all the time? Yeah all the time They all like to live commiserating thing or you're pushing each other because it's all about intensity drip So it's really and it's actually as much in off season as it is in season off season there It's all about packing the calories on packing on the muscle and you use each other To pump each other up and I'll tell you the pros and cons for me personally so pros First off depends on the workout partner, but if I work out with the right workout partner It'll help me stay on Track and stay away from my ego because sometimes my ego makes me do exercises that I probably shouldn't at that moment I should say that the workout partner helps you not if I get the right workout partner So if I get the wrong workout partner, it'll do the opposite like if I work out with Somebody like myself Then my risk of injury just goes to the roof because now it's about yeah, that's what I've always I'm gonna I'm gonna challenge your way of thinking there because I think we're all I would consider all of us You know a plus workout partners like I know how to spot None of us are good workout partners for each other not for each other not for each other well who you to get Well, some docile dude doesn't know what he's doing Oh, what's your idea of what an a plus fucking to work out? My wife was a great one when her and I worked out together and mainly because there's no competition there She's not gonna lift as much to me anyway We can check each other and I have smarter workouts if I work out with one of you knuckleheads I guarantee within a few weeks It's gonna turn into without us realizing it the intensity is gonna creep up the way it's gonna creep up and it'll be fun But then somebody's gonna you know get hurt so the pros are if you have a good partner They can check you watch your form help you push yourself when you need to might be more motivating for some people The cons are you have to rely on the other person's Consistency and attitude and energy and I take my workout so seriously that if a workout partner shows up and their mood Is down by two degrees. I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to work out with you over again Like where you show up five minutes late. I'm on my own go do your own thing type of deal So that's the cons is I have to rely on someone else the pros are if you get a good partner They can make you work out better. Yeah, I'm gonna stick with my original statement that it's mostly cons the only pro That I think is there's some value there when you're first starting when you're first starting out And it purely I see it as not not anything that you're talking about but just the commitment to get to the gym I've made a commitment to somebody else that I meet them on Monday Wednesday Friday at 6 a.m Therefore, I'm more like a lot of people. It's like yeah I'm more likely to show up to Jim and there's a lot of value in the commitment aspect But as far as the training itself, I Personally think it's almost impossible to work out with another person just because we are all so unique We're all there were so that everybody everybody's bodies needs something so individual even if your goal is the same Both of us are meathead guys We both want to build a bunch of muscle But it's like my body type is so different than any either one of your guys's body types And my weaknesses are totally different than your weaknesses and my imbalances and my freaking issues that I got Totally different than you guys and so my programming should be really Designed around what air what week areas do I need to address to prime myself correctly before I go into my workout? How was my sleep the night before my food? What I did previously in the workout that should dictate my intensity and volume that I go into that workout all those variables Matter so much more than what is my workout partner? I do it's also because you take your workout so seriously that you don't want to compromise For the other person to do the back and forth because you know what you need to do Well, that's what I do if I train with like my girl or somebody like if I train with somebody else I do end up compromising for for them because I want to give them a good experience and a good workout So what I end up doing is not what I probably should do for myself That's why I say it's mostly cons because most of it is centered around the hype the motivation They get there to get to the gym to push through and those are all the wrong reasons We're we're terrible people to ask this question Yeah, I'm gonna be honest because I feel like we just we know too much when you get to a certain point where You know yourself. Oh like the best you know How everything works like it any partner you bring in you're gonna be compromising your time like you're gonna have to explain things I agree in the ass like if you're in the same sort of Mentality as somebody else that's kind of just trying to figure it out. I think it's beneficial in that environment Just you know for accountability. I think maybe if that's like your your biggest thing right for sure Like I can't get to the gym. I just need somebody that's gonna be there and hold me accountable. It's consistent If you're somebody in that state of mind where you're reliant on that like I find value in that But for me personally the only way I would have a workout partner at this point Would be if I'm just learning a very new skill and for a brief moment of time They know it they know it and I'm like, I'm just that's such a part That's such an anomaly though right there That's like I mean that's a one-off such with that and I guarantee there's people right now Okay, there's somebody right now that is shaking their head no and they're like and you know what they're saying I get my best workouts when I work out with my workout partner and Steve really pushes me and you know That's the problem with it is that you still measure the success of your workout by how fucking hard you lift And that is not a good gauge of what makes a good workout. Yeah We know a good a good training session is should be measured for what you need at that specific moment in time And the the idea that we and and by the way, I know this because I was the same way I was the same young kid who thought like man I my workouts are never as good as as they are what unless I have my workout partner because why Because he pushed me that next level when I wanted to stop at rep five and you know If someone tried to push me through a workout right now, I'd fucking slap them Don't tell me where I need if I need to push more or not right now I know what I need to do so that's the last thing that I would want But the people that are shaking their head at me that disagree with what we're saying right now Are people that are still stuck in that mindset that it's all about intensity I think some look I think for some people There's a lot of value because they they their workout partners like it's like a partner And they work out together and they grow together and they do a lot of stuff I get that but the the key is finding the right workout partner for me I hated it most of the time because I was always the consistent one the motivated one So it's like I was always the damn teacher, right exactly what you said was absolute 100% Justin If I worked out with anyone now and I picked a workout partner It's because I want to learn something like if I'm gonna if I'm gonna go through a whole mobility stint Or I'm gonna do a bunch of you know non-traditional workouts. I'll ask Justin. Hey Justin Can I do a sled and kettlebell workout with you because he's good at it and I'm gonna learn from him, but otherwise I mean not really but in the past in the past. I mean I've had a few good workout partners I think it's always one-sided. It's never equal usually right always if you're in that situation the guy who's teaching you You were making out right he's getting the shit in the stick Yeah, if you're listening to this right now, and you're you have a trainer friend who you work out with well Yeah, guess what you get you aren't that's a good idea for you to find a nice Chris Keep that workout partner because your workouts are probably better because you have a professional that's working out with you We guess what his is probably suffering somebody is Here's the other thing now as I've done this for so long now my workouts are so meditative and You know for lack of a better term spiritual experience for me. I go in there. I shut off. I do my thing I don't want to talk to somebody else or be worried about. Oh, it's your turn or take the weight off or change this I'm doing my own thing. I'm in my own space not talking to anybody unless I choose to if I have a workout partner there It's like I oh, okay. I gotta go, you know gotta do my thing got to talk to her So we'd have to be really somebody special To work out with working out around you guys just not like with dude. I tell you listen I Say okay, I said we're all terrible workout partners for each other because of whatever We've all worked out at the same time many times. We never I think we've only worked out together like that three times Yeah, less than a handful for sure. Yeah, but but we're usually working out the same time Yeah, I think that's great So and that's where I'm like there's there is a way to the thing that I thought was the only real pro is the Whole meeting there. So hey, I'm all for having a person to help commit you then after you're done Yeah, like like hey, I'll meet you at the gym holding each other accountable And then you guys do your thing and then you meet back there and maybe some days you both happen to be like, oh It's a light easy day. I'm not gonna train really hard. Oh me too one exercise. Hey, let me jump. I'm hitting those all Yeah, that's cool. Like and that's actually how Katrina and I work out that way So Katrina and I if we train at the gym together, we do not train together It's like she has things that she knows that she needs to accomplish She's normally running one of the maps programs I have my my handful of things that I want to accomplish now sometimes they intersect sometimes Oh, you're squatting on today. Oh, I'm squatting too. We'll go share the rack together and we'll work out That's our working out together But it's not me pushing the and trying her intensity or her Motivating me to do whatever or telling me let's go here. It's like I just don't see a lot of value in it Unless you're pretty pretty new Hey, if you enjoyed that clip, you can find the full episode here or you can find other clips over here And be sure to subscribe