 What's up, beautiful people? Thank you so much for tuning in and in case you just tuned in, this is WCW Y in the morning and I am joined by two amazing young, talented people, alright? There's Kate Jambi and Godwin, nge-teach, kipto. Great! Asante nisana, they are models as you can see. Naite explains why I was wearing my cut, my cut is kitty cut accessory today. I tried, I tried to get into this zone of royalty and majesty. Karibuni sana to waitufifuza in the morning and today being WCW, we try as much to, you know, talk about the woman, but you, since you joined us today, you're gonna tell us about the man and push the narrative of the boy child. So, Karibuni sana and I'm so curious, I just want to know, the first time I got into the modeling scene, I did not know how to pronounce the word pageant or pageant. So is it pageant, pageant or... Pageant, pageant. Pageant, pageant. Alright, great. So, now you know. Anyway, so I want to know from you guys, miss second option, right? Yes. Miss second option, what is the second option agency? What does it do? What are the duties that you hold at the agency as the miss? Thank you so much for having us. Karibu. Second option, very many people get curious about why it's called second option. First of all, it's an agency that seeks to empower the less fortunate, or rather to give them a platform to showcase their talent, at the same time giving them opportunities to earn from it. So, as miss second option, miss second option, we have our own individual projects that the agency is giving us a platform to put them out there. Yes, so individually or personally, my project is called Najiku Bali. Najiku Bali is a project that seeks to empower people to be comfortable in their own skins, to erase this narrative of a perfect body, because we are all perfect in our own skins, irregardless the body size, same skin color, irregardless of all what the society terms as a perfect body. And this December, we'll be going to the streets, we'll be taking Christmas to a street kid. Hold up about that, hold on, hold that thought just yet. I wanna know, apart from being the miss, what else do you do as kid jambi? I am, other than a model, I am a student. I took counseling and psychology at Kisi University. Actually just graduated yesterday. Wow. Yes. Thank you, thank you so much. No applause by the way. Thank you, other than that, I sing. I do design. Yes, I crochet. Yes, so that's basically me. Very talented. What about you, Goodwin? Tell us about your initiative, your duty as the mister. The mandates that we have having been crowned mister second option, I have a project that I have been having in mind that I intend to run from coming next year, 2022. It's called the Jenga Monome initiative. Wow. So my initiative basically targets the men in my society, the men, let me say the men around in Kenya generally. So we find that what inspired me to come up with this project is because we have so many men in our society who are suffering in silence. They never come out to speak out. They have nowhere to speak to air out their grievances. They don't always want to be helped. That's the African man that we have. They always feel like if I shout my problem, I'll be seen as weak as you feel like they've been subdued. So what I felt like is create a platform for them where they can come out, air out their grievances and in one way or another they could be helped. So I had what I have in mind is creating a website where these people can access the website, air out their grievances anonymously because some of them maybe don't want to be known, maybe don't want to be victimized for whatever they're doing. So I want to give them a chance to actually bring out what they're suffering because you find many of them and then they engage in suicides, they do domestic violences, they kill other people because of their mental issues that they have that can't be solved. So that's what I intend to do and I believe I can be able to impact my men positively in my society. Great, you've said men are hiding out from speaking up and everything. Why do you think this is the case? Is it an ego sort of thing or ideally men just keeping to themselves? I think the African man has been taught to mask the emotions that if I, unlike women, women vent, women when they face the problems, they cry, they vent, they do all kinds of things that will help them release and you'll find that women are strong emotionally and even mentally than the men but for the man you'll feel like if I do this I'll be seen as weak men don't cry. It's rare cases that you find a man crying. So I'm crying, you know, therapeutically crying helps you release, after you cry you feel like you feel better but for a man they won't have a choice to take long. So I feel like if you give them this chance they can be helped because many are suffering in silence. Many are suffering in silence. What else do you do other than having this initiative that you want to propel? What else do you want to do? What else are you doing? I'm a student at the Catholic University of Eastern Africa. I'm awaiting my graduation coming next year. Apart from that, I'm a rapper. I do rap. I also do fashion and design, I make creative outfits. I also love travel. I also love helping people in my society in one way or another. I feel like giving back to them brings out the person in me. So that's basically what I do. So Kate, let me know, probably just break it down to us. What does this win for me second option? What does it mean to you? In the first time that you were crowned, what did it feel like? Oh my God, that is the most memorable moment in my life. It crowned my 2021 to be honest. So I wasn't first of all, I wasn't expecting the win. And the competition was tea if we went through so many challenges from the auditions. So in Nairobi we were 58 contestants. What? 58. Who were that audition. And then after that we were shortlisted, about 6 of us. And this is ideally from different counties? Yes. People are selected from different counties? Yes. So after you were shortlisted, you went through another series of challenges, online challenges. So there were like 4 online weekly challenges. And what did they entail? So in the first week it was mostly introduction. You were to tell the world about yourself, your project and basically just introducing yourself. The next week was the culture. You were to tell people about your culture. Yes. And then the next week it was about your region. Being from Nairobi, I had to do something about Nairobi region highlighting the must go places in Nairobi and all that. Yes. And then in the last week it was voting. Yes. So after that series of challenges, then I managed to be the representative for Nairobi. Then we went to the Boots Camp for one week Boots Camp in Mombasa. Yes. So we were there. Different models from different regions. We assembled in Mombasa for one week Boots Camp which was, wow, it was mind blowing. We learned a lot. So on the 27th of last month that is when we had the pageant at Wild Waters. Yes. So the wind for me, I've always believed that for you to actively bring change to society, having a title or having people backing you up is, you know, it motivates you and pushes you forward, gives you more ability to run your projects. So this wind for me means that it's an inspiration not only for me but other girls out there to go after what you want and every dream is valid. Every dream is valid. Every dream is valid. All right. What about you, Godwin? Being crowned Mr. Second Option, the several other guys who are contesting, of course, what do you feel? Did you feel like you deserved it or you are going there knowing very well ah, me this one. This one I've worn. Come on to me. Honesty speaking, the competition was tough. Yeah. Very tough because we had people from different regions and I feel like being a national pageant, we got to be exposed with people from different regions. And you find that someone being picked from one region means that person has the A game. So being at the boot camp, all of you guys, there was so much tension building up because this guy is better in this, this one is better in this and you're like, we're alive for you. You don't really know how it's going to come out. So it was a big task. You're in the boot camp, you're smiling but deep down you're so tense. You don't know, you're afraid of the outcome. So I told myself I'm just going to try it out, give out my best. And then I think it has a lot to do, there was a lot that was going on from the video challenges. Then you now get to the boot camp, you have to be at your top, you're at your best, let me say behavior, at your best behavior. There are workouts you have to be good in, workouts you have to be a good time keeper. It was a lot. Then you come now to things concerning the runway. When you have to perfect your work, your smile, your confidence, then came the outfits, you also had to have the best outfits for the event. So I believe all those combined, I think that's how I managed to be crowned and I think I gave my best. I think there's a lot that comes with the term model. Because ideally you are a model of a certain being in the society. How do you strike this balance between schoolwork and pageantry? Because you've done a couple of pageant work in the span of just one year. So tell us how many titles do you have and how has it been balancing modelling career and now work and maybe just your talents in school. This is my sixth title. Finding a balance sometimes is hard. But you just have to try and make things work because at the end of the day you have to be a model of the purpose. Having a purpose involves you being all-rounded, not only just being pageant oriented but having a social life, being in the books, just being well all-rounded. So for me, I just had to balance my time and at the same time, pageants are not there all the time. You can also have to just balance your time properly. So pageants are well balanced during my whole semester so they didn't really collide that much. And what about you, how do you manage the two? Schoolwork and modelling and staying fresh. It's a bit of a challenge because you find that much times you want to go for a pageant and you have classwork, you have exams, you have to do this. So I feel like at times you have to forego the pageants for schoolwork because you have to also balance. You see which one is more important than the other one. But I feel like it's just prioritization and then just have your plan, have your work schedule planned on 12. When you have that, it becomes easy because I started modelling when I was in campus and all these while I've been able to go for very many pageants and that I've been able to shape me up to the level I am now. So I believe it's just prioritization and planning yourself well. Kate, I'd like to know in Kenya what is the number one thing young people are missing out on according to you? According to me what is the number one thing that young people are missing out on? Like they'd have made it but like a young person in Nairobi can make it but... Opportunity. Yes. So I feel as though if most of our young people are given the right opportunity that we so far in life and that is why I appreciate agencies such as the second option which gives people that opportunity or that platform to go after what they want. Because sometimes you having the dream or having the motivation you might have it but that's not enough because you don't have the right platform or the right connection so the people to back you up to help you proper gain whatever it is that you want. What about you? What is the number one thing that young people are lacking? Feel like the one thing that they lack is empowerment. Because you find that many, very many youth in our country had talented they have skills they have what it takes to flow in the field that they are good in. And I feel like if it's the only problem that we don't have is empowerment because most of them are sleeping on their talents. Not because they want to but they don't have the resources to explore them. For example, me I want to venture into the music industry in future apart from modeling. But we find that I have a number of songs that I have written that haven't been able to produce. Reason being recording and shooting the videos for this is quite expensive. And for a young person like me who doesn't have the resources it becomes a very big challenge. So I feel like having such an agency that incorporates new talents brings in new people I feel like they are now giving us a chance to actually bring out the best in ourselves. And I believe for their support and the support we have generally we're going to go for. Well, guess what? I have some good news for you men. And the good news is here at Waitu Fifu there is an amazing deal that you can have with a place called Studio Machinani. Studio Machinani is free and you can go there and record your music for free and shoot content. Okay? Yeah. So yeah, maze. There is Studio Machinani in each and every county Mombasa, Kisumu. Okay, not all counties but at least major counties Nairobi, Kisumu, Mombasa There is one in central Gatundo, I think. Yeah. So try and figure out LA, Langata as well. So the one that is closer to you just go there and do your thing. All right. What are the future prospects for you, Jambi? Now that you have this platform what do you intend to do after 2021? 2021? No. Now what do you want to do after 2022? 2022, yes. Okay. So as I had said earlier I have a project. So let me just start from this Christmas. All right. Christi Kwa Street. Yeah. Christi Kwa Street. So we'll be taking Christmas to the street kids. We'll be sharing the Christmas chair with the Christmas kids. We're planning on taking to them food, clothes, just making the Christmas. And then thereafter I have my project, the Najiku Bali project. Yes. So it's going to have online programs where we'll be talking about mental health, we'll be talking about body acceptance. So the whole aim of Najiku Bali is just to preach self-love. Encouraging people to be comfortable in their own skins. So yeah. Yes, that is. Still on you. What do you think especially in Africa business here lighten your skin is so big. At first I never thought it was as big as until I went to downtown and some lady insisted that I should buy that mafuta. And in my head I'm like, I'm fine. In my melanin I'm good. Why do you think this business is so big? It's booming. It's big and I mean right now you needed a small business to start and make a killing. Trust me skin lightening products they will go as quickly as possible. Why do you think this is the case and the fact that your project is focusing on this will young people actually eventually accept themselves? What does it take? You know for me I don't know what it took I think it took so many people telling me you're beautiful in your own skin. So what do you think will take for young people especially women to understand that they were perfectly made and they are okay the way they are in their plus size in their dark skin it's all good. What do you think will take for them to accept this? Okay So I believe that first of all the reason why the mafuta business is booming is because we've been conditioned to believe that if you're melanated you know if you have your dark skin you're not pretty. But that narrative is so wrong because I believe that we are all beautiful in our own skin and we should embrace it's you know ever being dark skin light skin it's being thick plus size or whatever you are you should embrace yourself because I believe that God had an intention creating it the way that he did so as Najiku Bali we'll be having online challenges we'll be having daily affirmations we have a Najiku Bali creed so every time I'll be a plan going to schools talking to these girls talking to you know going to orphanages or children's homes and talking to these children and reminding them that they are enough that they don't need to alter their bodies or you know change themselves to be enough because as they are they are enough Another question do you support the idea of writing on your social media as soon as you post a photo if you've altered it you write altered photo are you in support of that? No I am not for example Instagram is going to introduce a section where you know all these international models or even celebrities who come and do they post a photo that is always Photoshopped so people are coming out wana se ma kumbe okay there was a trend actually I don't know if you guys saw it there was a trend on Tiktok where celebrities were coming out to post the original photo and the Photoshopped photo so also social media companies are for the idea that if for us to raise awareness and for us for women to accept who they are because uko you were girls as young as 13 are into surgery cosmetic surgery you know and that's sad like I can't even imagine trying to not unless I'm hurt or I got an accident that's when I'll try fix my skin but there's a serious crisis and I think social media is to blame do you support the idea that people should actually write this photo was Photoshopped or you just want people to post if it's nice like people stick to the nice side my nice side and that's it okay 50-50 about that because I am a firm believer of doing what makes you happy if you feel that when you do that it makes you happy you could do it but at the same time it creates this fake narrative you know because everybody on social media or other the children growing up believe that if I don't have this body if I don't have that condition body I'm not enough you know so that is why they want to go buy those pills they go to get that mafuta to boost their hips or whatever yeah so having that real versus Photoshopped picture is going to help people see that people out there are not perfect you know because everybody is dealing their own baggage and everybody has you know that element that they are not so proud about and it's okay it is totally totally okay to have an insecurity but now dwelling on that and making it and making it or it's making you feel as though you're not enough is what is not right what about you I feel like these are some of the things do what makes you happy you know the song maybe like it's something that is kind of personal if I post a picture that I feel doesn't look so nice for me I want to be able to post it because I don't I myself don't like it so after altering it or making it look maybe the way I now like it it would make me happy and I feel like I want people to see me in such a way so I feel like it's something so personal because someone will post a picture not altered another one will launch to add all those kind of filters and stuff so I feel like is this something of personal choice what you feel like this is the best you're bringing out of myself so I feel like it's just a personal division alright cool let's go back to the agency now what tip would you give that young person who would like to join second option agency 2022 what should they look forward to exactly what can you tell them so what I can tell them the good let me say the agency is bringing out a lot to the young people and I believe they are giving them a chance to explore what they have in themselves that they haven't had on a platform to expose them so that's why the motive of the agency is grab that chance grab that chance so I feel like what I will tell them is never be afraid to bring out what you have come I believe even not only second option agency they also other corporates they are the platforms that these people can come out bring out the best in themselves so what I can tell them please come out be part of us and we with the agency could be able to help these people get to the levels they want to be it could be a young person an old person a person who is married I think it incorporates everyone so I feel like it's home for me now second option I call it home because this is where we are going to grow this is where we are going to explore new parts and second option is going regional can I say other than being in the countries going to different other countries what plans do you guys have for next year so we'll be the we're planning the agency is planning a continental pageant and Godwin and I are going to be the Kenyan representatives so we really don't know much because we also are going to be part of that we'll be contestant really don't know much about it but we'll be representing Kenya alright I wish you guys all the best thank you and I hope that you take this crown that you're wearing and you spread as much word as possible and by word I'd like to know Judy's second option other than identifying talent and making a social impact what other duties does the agency entill I think you haven't mentioned talent development talent development they have a community we have what is what you call the CSR that these are activities that are done monthly giving back to the society so it could be for example the Krissi exactly Krissi Kwa streets we could visit the physically challenged it's just basically helping other people in our society value addition to this society value addition great now if somebody wanted to join your crew Krissi Kwa streets how do you go about it page can either access it via the second option page or the Najiku Bali page so that we have all the details listed there at the same time we also have a till anybody who is interested in making a donation can also do that we also have at what number do you guys have a pay bill or a number that we do this is the platform 913930 oh the pay bill number is 913930 913930 913930 913930 913930 zero that is where you are supposed to make your donation for Krissi Kwa streets and if they would like to join you they go to the page second option agency where do I find you on Instagram, Facebook and the rest is Snapchat social media, Kate and John B on Instagram, on Facebook and we are at Kate and John B what about you Godwin on Instagram Godwin and the Skokipto same to Facebook, Twitter all the platforms Godwin and the Skokipto any last words to somebody who would want to become a model one day because I used to model by the way wow I'm just looking at you guys now like you guys hey it was amazing, I loved it but I was discouraged because I wanted to be a runway model but I didn't have like second option agencies it was either runway or catalogue so when I felt on runway I just came on this other side which is TV I'm doing good so last words to that one person who wants to be a model last words be yourself don't let anything intimidate you just go for it if you want something go for it what about you all I can tell them there's always something good in someone so I believe when you get to know your niche when you get to know something that brings out the best in you never be afraid to bring it out never be afraid to be who you are great and my lesson from all that was remember who you are remember where you come from at the end of the day express a lot of confidence do not know anything assume you know and trust me by the time you get there the world shall conform and realign anyways guys we need to come through with the second segment or the third actually with Kaisu and of course as they stick around we will be coming in with Samoa nga awasim fita kwa patana nwa mese ma Godwin underscore kipto on Instagram and Kate Jambi on Instagram as well this has been amazing having you guys and of course follow me on Instagram at Karen Kang Facebook Instagram and Twitter see you later