 Can we close our eyes and just lift up our hands to him? Jesus Just say his name Jesus Lord We can do nothing apart from you We get to abide with you Lord we can do some people just walked in your good We can do nothing apart from you We get to abide apart from you. We can do nothing. Holy Spirit. I need you to speak This morning. I need you to be you Lord Help us come under you. What are you saying? Lord? I ask That everything that you're saying would be said and everything that you're not would not be said Lord I just come under your leadership Holy Spirit Help me helper. I need you We love you Holy Spirit. We love you. We love your presence Thank you for extending what just happened this morning. Thank you that you Wanted to keep going and we listened to you It's so beautiful Lord. Thank you for radiant church God Thank you for what they're cultivating here Lord. We bless radiant church Just begin a bless radiant church in your own words. We bless the leadership the staff the volunteers Lord The media team we just bless them God refresh them during this conference Lord. Thank you for this house We bless this house. We bless every campus Jesus. I thank you for pastor Lee I thank you for what you've given him Lord. Thank you that he's been faithful He's been faithful on what you've done. He's been faithful with a seed that you've given him Jesus We bless radiant church. We bless radiant church this morning We love you Lord, and we thank you and we receive the blessing that you have over radiant church God We come under it So thank you for that. Thank you that we get to feed off the tree We get to feed off what they've been cultivating and stewarding and just everything Lord Thank you. We love you Holy Spirit Name we pray amen Hi guys Thank you for coming My name is Joel figure oa Figure oa not figure or figure oa figure oa, but it's okay. We can't say it I Am from Dallas, Texas Church called upper room. This is Garrett Hardy Garrett Hardy is one of my best friends. He's also one of our musicians He leads worship from the guitar if you heard him last night He may not have a microphone, but he's leading worship on the guitar. We both go to upper room And you'll probably I don't know what our other team is here, but they'll probably be here They'll probably be the loud people coming in so you hear them But anyway, I I'm from Dallas. I've been in Dallas for about 12 years And then eight of those 12 years. I've been at upper room I went to see if an eye which is where I met a couple of us obviously here in a couple I don't know if it has anyone been to see if an eye aside from oh you of course you you too. What year I? Went to oh, okay. That's crazy. I was there 2008 Yeah, so cool. I missed each other. So I was there from 2008 to 20 I did four years to nine ten twelve twenty twelve and Then during that time I was like I'm in Dallas. Why am I in Dallas? I was pretty I was pretty burnt out by being in church because I love God I just Really didn't really enjoy knowing what I was going to get every time I went to church That I don't know how else to say that Not against programs or nothing like that, but just I wanted to I needed to be wowed by the Lord Right, so but I was like in in my I was probably like 20 24 thinking that I knew everything so dumb and But I was just like whatever like I'm bored by church, you know, but I'm a worship leader, which is so ironic But I'm bored by church and like kind of burnout and also disappointed You know, I just I wanted the presence of God and whatever so anyway I'm like, you know what the only place I know because at that time I was I would watch a lot of YouTube videos I was like the only place I know in the world That has that is in writing California Bethel church, so I'm going to Bethel, right and it never happened I never went to Bethel and the Lord actually had me. That's why I did it I mean I did I ended up doing another for a fourth year at CF and I I graduate. I'm and then I'm in Dallas for like six months and Not knowing why I'm in Dallas like Lord. Why am I here? I'm living in this like really Small kind of weird apartment And I'm like Lord, why am I here? So then January because school ends in May. I'm then from May until January January comes I go to a trip. I come back and my friend Annie Ola, which she's one of the worship leaders at upper room She's like, hey, you should check out this place called the upper room. It's like you're kind of people And I was like cool like again. I had this like attitude like whatever like Church is boring So I went alone the first time because I was like, I know that I'm gonna when I get there I'm gonna be disappointed because I'm gonna know what's gonna happen like as in not like I'm gonna know but worship Announcements message alter call and we're done. There's nothing wrong with any of that. It's just that I needed to be wowed remember So I go up these up this stairway And there's a vet clinic underneath so you can hear dogs bark as You're in church literally like it's like right now and we'd be worshiping and you'd hear like So like Yeah, it's actually really funny because yeah, anyway, I have so many stories about that And so anyway, I get there I go and I entered and if the best way to say is I don't know if you've seen Chronicles of Narnia, but when they enter the closet and they're like What is this? Where has this been? I've been in this house for a long time, but where did this? Closet come from and where did this land come from that is the best way to say I walked into this place and it was it was probably Garrett would you say it was as big as this? Built right here. It was probably as big as this place the entire church I would say and But it's like everyone is squished and there's people painting in the corner. There's kids running around There's still kids running around all the time at upper room like if you've been there You'll notice like there's just kids in the front, but I was like, this is pretty chaotic and I feel God like what? And so I sat down and I was like, okay, like worship's gonna start And they start singing songs and they're it's beautiful songs And then all of a sudden the song ends and then they linger and I was like, whoa, what are you doing? Like you're not you're lingering and you're waiting on God like I was like my antenna was like like I like that and so and And and worship, you know worship ended and I was like so touched by it But what got me is announcements come and there's this girl that was over the this lady that was over the children's apartment and she Says hey, I'm over. It's it was called. It's how Samuel school Samuel school power kids And she said a phrase like she's like, you know, we believe that children don't carry the junior Holy Spirit children carry Holy Spirit just as much as You and me carry Holy Spirit and they can listen to God and we're and then she was like, you know And we're training these kids to hear the voice of God And for some reason if I needed like a confirmation of where I needed to be it was not so much worship worship was awesome But it was a fact that there was a place where they were literally believing that children can hear God and They were they weren't just hopefully believing it, but they're like they were convicted about it I was like dude. I can plant my life here I can plant my life here and fast forward Now I'm here with you guys Which is crazy, you know, it's it's been a a wild journey for our house We never could have planned what the Lord is doing in our house. It's a great honor and It's terrifying at the same time. It's Beautiful and fun, but there's but we need the fear of God Because We did again, we were we're a house of prayer that became a church and so People are coming in and and the Lord is touching them and all and all we're trying to do is that we're learning how to steward his presence We're learning we're learning how to host him. We'll always remain students, you know Once you become a professional, that's bad. You don't want to become a professional Christian I don't want to become a professional Christian, you know And so I sell that to say that's just a little bit of my story. I've been there eight years. I love our family It's not perfect, but it's Why I who I it's shaped me. I am a product of a People that love God that I that have rebuked me when I needed to be rebuked Which is often and have encouraged me when I need to be encouraged, which is often and so When we're on stage and you see us all there and you know, we're going after it We are just a product of these mothers and fathers praying for us and well and and and having covering, you know That's why I love radiant church this place is and I honor you radiant church because you guys it's so it feels so healthy here It feels like there's fathers and mothers and then there's sons and daughters That will become fathers and mothers and then there's sons and daughters that will become fathers and mothers Does that make sense? And I didn't realize that this conference was a leadership conference until after We were eating last time. They're like, yeah, you know, this is a leadership conference So are most of you guys here church leaders? Can you raise your hand if you are so funny? I had no idea So last night when we were in worship, I felt like the Lord was really gonna refresh you Even during this conference because I feel like you've been laboring a lot. I feel like Your fervent and your passionate. Yes in the beginning has maybe faded away And that's okay because it's not your job to keep the fire going. It's his job And he will he is faithful. He is faithful to rekindle He is faithful to put more coals all you have to do is just say Lord. I'm here. Hi, Alyssa. Hi our teams here I love you guys. It just feels so good. It's family. I'm talking about you So the Lord's gonna refresh you so as I'm speaking respond to him I want you to listen to what I'm saying But I want you to listen to him more and so is that if if all of a sudden I'm speaking and you want to cry And you want to lay on the floor? Please do that like I want you to respond to the presence of God as he's coming. Okay, cool Holy spirit. I need you have your way Okay I'm following notes because if not, I'm gonna be all over the place So this worship culture right say that with me worship culture What does that even mean? What does worship culture even mean? I actually had to study what it even means because I I found out what I was gonna teach when I got here I had an idea but not really and it actually helped me So thank you radiant church for giving me some boundaries because if not again, I would be all over the place So like personally for me, I've understood I have a couple minutes I've understood culture as a way of doing things and I'm gonna give you definitions and a lot of Bible So if you're gonna Write notes just keep up with me Culture for example, I'm Mexican and Part of my culture is okay. We love to talk as we're watching movies I don't know how you grew up, but if I'm watching a movie with my mom. She's like We're like talking and and it's normal, but then I've invited friends and they're like, why are you guys talking so much? It's just how I grew up. It's just a way of it's just how I do things we dinner very late at night where From what I understand some people eat dinner at 5 p.m. And I honestly when I go to friends houses that Don't look like me They're like, we're having dinner at 5 30. I'm like, bro. I Have dinner. That's like lunch like a lot like that's like a late lunch or dinners Like at 7 or 8 for us, you know, and but it's again the way that you grew up is beautiful And that's it's your culture. It's part of what you do and I eat dinner really late I've tried not to anymore because then I get acid reflux and no one has time for that but So anyway, but so under we understand culture is it's almost like understood, right? But there is actually language for it. Thank you Google because according to Google culture means it's the customs arts social institutions and achievements of a particular nation people or social group So it's the custom arts or social institutions like the customs and I want to focus on customs it Websters defines custom as a usage or practice Common to many or to a particular place or class or habitual with an individual so like a practice that you do Habitually, it's just it becomes a custom. It's just understood So again if if a custom is a long established practice considered as an unwritten law like it's just somehow we all understand that I'm trying to think okay, so you know that you're supposed to stop at red lights And probably when you were younger whoever taught you how to drive told you hey when it's a red light you stop And now you don't really have to think about it. It's just a thing that you do. It's like you've understood This is this is a law. It's a and the more you practice it The more you're not going to get tickets. Am I right? So again a custom we just go accustomed to it um, so I would ask What what is if if if culture is made up of customs? What is worship culture? What is the customs of a worship culture? Does that make sense? Thank you Hi, abby. Hi elissa. These are our beautiful worship leaders also from up a room abby's pregnant. Yay um Yeah So what are the practices of worship culture? What are some practices? I want you to turn to john for if you have your bibles So but in order to understand what the customs of a worship culture is um We need to understand what worship means to god not to you and me To god like how does how does god define worship? How do we worship jesus? So I want you to go to john for verse 21 through 24 John 4 21 24 Jesus said to her woman believe me an hour is coming When neither in this mountain or in or in Jerusalem you will worship the father you worship what you do not know We worship what we know for salvation is from the jews I love israel But an hour is coming and now is when the true worshipers will worship the father in spirit and truth For such people the father seeks to be as worshipers God is spirit and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and truth say that with me spirit and truth Um, I love blue letter bible Okay, and so i'm about to go deep in it like it helps me process Do you any of you use blue letter bible? Isn't it the best so And and if you're like a greek or like a hebra scholar, I am so sorry I'm gonna try my best to say these words because it's they're beautiful I just don't know how to say them completely but I want to I want to define what spirit and truth is So is if worship is done in spirit and truth, what does that even mean? um So in the greek the spirit the word spirit is numa Say that numa And I love these definitions guys It's it means the third person of the triune god the holy spirit co equal Co eternal with the father and the son I'm gonna read that again the third person of the triune god the holy spirit The co equal co eternal with the father and the son Never and then another another way to say it is he's never referred to as a Depersonalized forest he he he's a person He's not just a energy or like a feeling that you get when you sing a worship song He is just as equal as god the father So So it's spirit numa if you go a little bit deeper into that word. It means nao Which means to breathe to blow of wind So we hear like wind of god, you know, we call them wind of god breath of god So the spirit of god is the breath of god The spirit of god has got himself So spirit, okay spirit and truth and I want to go into truth What does truth mean in the greek it means a lethia So this is an objective. It's objectively. So it's this is whether you agree or not. This is the truth objectively black and white It's blue letter bible is one of this what it says What is true in any matter under consideration? Truly in truth according to truth. So truly in truth according to truth So it's true because it's true because it's true Of truth in reality in fact certainly So in fact certainly of truth. So it's truth truth This same guys this trips me out this same word um A lethia is the same definition that when he says I am the way the truth and the life So I want you to grab that and then think about what I just said Goddess spirit and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth So we must worship him in god and in god So we guys we need god to worship god This is so crazy, right? I'm not even kidding. I I finished this an hour ago. So I was like What this isn't the bible Because again, I was all over the place. I was like lord like I I want to I want to honor these people and I want to come and like teach something and and whatever it is And I didn't have anything until this morning and I felt like the lord all of a sudden I mean he just spoke to me with how I I would understand And when I was writing all this I couldn't write it fast enough because I didn't I've heard this before I just haven't heard it before so it makes sense So again spirit and truth. Um, but what what does this have to do with worship culture? Um The main um, I'm just gonna read what I wrote the main custom practice of a worship culture has to be following his spirit and his presence The main custom if you want to have worship culture it begins with following his presence We are to practice his presence His presence is his spirit what we experience in rooms what you experience today when uh the session overflowed Was not a man leading you into it what you experienced last night was not me listen abby leading you It was his it was his spirit You you experienced his spirit whenever he walks in the room and you begin to cry you're experiencing God it's his presence is him. He is his presence It's not just a part of him. He is he is I want you to do this with your hands You know when you feel something just as real as this as you feel like your thumbs and your Fingers kind of rubbing against each other. He's more real than that and he walks into rooms So he was up Caleb. So he is his spirit um And as you begin to engage his spirit There's one thing he loves to do okay He loves to talk And he always has something to say about Jesus. That's his favorite subject So we get into places we begin to worship and then he comes into the room and he began to feel like Hey, Jesus is here And then to you maybe in the corner. He's like Jesus is going to provide and to you He's like Jesus is going to heal you to me. Hey, Jesus is going to deliver you. He just begins to speak all at the same time He loves to talk about Jesus. He loves Jesus. He's obsessed with Jesus Holy spirit loves Jesus. Holy spirit is the spirit of Jesus Go to john 14 26 We're going to talk about the holy spirit and i'll John 14 6 26, sorry, but when the father sends the advocate as my representative Even that when the father sends the advocate as my representative That is the holy spirit He will teach you everything And we'll remind you of everything I have told you So the holy spirit teaches us everything one And then comes reminds us what Jesus has already told us because I forget sometimes what he's told me do you forget? And the beautiful holy spirit will come and say joe, but don't you remember he told you he was going to deliver you from that Don't you remember that you remember where you've been joe has that ever happened to y'all You remember what he's told you already or what he's going to do First Corinthians go there with me first Corinthians chapter 2 Verse 9 and 10 I'm kind of flying because I would love I would love like five minutes of q&a. So Your spirits will catch all this because I can't talk fast enough, you know Oh Thank you, holy spirit Holy spirit. I thank you that you're here And I thank you for these people these beautiful hungry people. I thank you Whether they feel it or not. They're hungry. They showed up here lord. They're seeking after you There's a reason why they came there's a reason why we show up in rooms like this And it's because deep deep in our hearts and our spirits were saying is there more Is there more there has to be more is there more and I thank you lord that you are the more holy spirit You are the more it's a person that we're craving not an expression Or songs or messages. We're craving the spirit of god So we just we realize this Today lord That it's you that we're craving It's you that we feel even now. Thank you for your presence, holy spirit Thank you for your presence Just say thank you for your presence. Just thank him for his presence I can feel you lord. Thank you um First Corinthians 2 verse 9 and 10 That is what the scriptures mean when they say no i has seen no ear has heard And no mind has imagined what god has prepared for those who love him. Hi gabe Hi, oscar. Hi, julian. I love these guys our team I'm gonna read that again that is what the scriptures mean when they say no I have seen no ear has heard and no mind has imagined what god has prepared for those who love him Oh, I love this guys But it was to us that god revealed these things by his spirit For his spirit searches out everything And reveals and shows us god's deep secrets other version says he searches the depths of god And tells us That is part of what holy spirit does holy spirit Well is literally right now. It's 11 45 a.m. He is searching the depths of god and if we ask him He will come and tell us what god is thinking And he'll come and tell you like whatever situation that you find in yourself specifically He literally has a sentence for that He's searching the depths of god and then if you think of jesus jesus is an eternal intercessor So then he gets the prayers of god and he begins to tell us what jesus is praying over us My gosh, it's a portal like you could just keep going there the more I talk about it I'm like, oh my gosh, there's just so much in that he is he searches the depths of god and god is eternal What the heck So holy spirit reminds us of what god has already said In life in our in our hearts everything and also reveals the depths of god Don't we want the depths the deep things? And do you know what happens when we hear him Do you know what happens in our hearts if we really listen to him Something begins to be authored in our hearts As you listen to god talk about himself something happens to your heart naturally You get wooed into something He's called the author and perfecter of what? faith So I'm telling you if you have a hard time believing in god lately You're okay. You just need to listen to god talk about himself If you feel burnt out If you're burnt out and like at the end you're like i'm here because I was made to be here because our church paid for this You're to you're okay. I'm telling you it's okay to be burnt out And what i'm saying it's it's it's not right But it's If if you're there, this is what i'm trying to say if you're there you're okay You just you need you need to listen to god talk about himself You need to hear his voice. I need to hear his voice When we hear his voice everything that begins that was hard and like lord I'm disappointed because you didn't do this by now that kind of begins to like shake a little bit and crumble Because then you remember this I said yes to you because I loved you not because I wanted to build my ministry, right? I said yes because I you said yes because you loved him So we just need we need to listen to god talk about god when we start feeling jaded and burnt out I'm telling this for myself. I find myself in places where i'm doing ministry and i'm like running and all of a sudden I'm like, what am I singing? I don't want to be up here. What am I doing? And then i'm like Lord, I love you But you love me and I feel like he tells me but I love you and just that little word Refreshes my heart and I'm not jaded anymore. But again, it's an ever ongoing thing. I need to hear god talk about himself And it's by his spirit That brings us to our next custom of worship of a worship culture. It's called faith Go to roman's 1017 with me. How does faith come roman's 1017? It's me. Look up there I wish I always was like that though because i'm not all the time It's so funny when I walked in here. I saw me in the little tv and i'm The big tv okay, okay roman's 1017 So i'm gonna read it 1017 so faith comes from hearing I'm gonna read that again faith comes from hearing and hearing the word of christ And I love it changed my life how I read it in the passion translation Faith then is birth in a heart. So faith then put your hand on your heart Faith then is birthed right here It's birth in a heart that responds to god's anointed utterance of the anointed one So faith comes in our hearts when we respond to what god is saying about himself But there's a response right I can hear someone talking and tell me hey joe if you jump over that puddle You're gonna be okay, but if I need to jump for me to be okay. Does that make sense? So I'm gonna read it again faith then is birth in a heart that responds say that with me responds To god's anointed utterance of the anointed one So remember what I told you holy spirit loves to talk and he loves to talk about jesus He begins to author faith in our hearts Author we can't we can't we can't make ourselves go into faith. We can't flex ourselves to go into faith. We can't we can't um Force ourselves to go into faith. We can't bubble up faith faith is a gift And faith is birthed and authored by holy spirit. We need holy spirit to have faith When people say do it by faith, I don't really understand what you're saying What I what I'm what I've said before because it I can't do um its faith is not up to me Faith is a response that comes into my heart when he begins to author something does that make sense And for a long time I thought faith was up to me. I thought that I was supposed to author faith inside Like I got to do it by faith. Well, I understand what we're saying But I I need to listen to god first before I do something Because then I'm gonna strive No one wants to strive I'm tired of striving So he'll begin to walk into a room And we're worshiping we're singing songs. We welcome you with praise almighty god of love be welcomed in this place Almighty god of love be welcomed in this place god of love god of love God of love love You are love lord. I don't feel loved, but we're singing about you being love I don't understand that god of love and why is my heart responding to god of love right now? God of love, you know what's happening in that in that time. He's like I am love I love you and your heart's like Be gonna open right you've experienced that before I experienced that last night I don't remember in what moment But in just in and so many worship sets we're singing these songs And a certain phrase all of a sudden pops out to me Almighty god of love and I could move on to the next song or Or I could sing we welcome in this place But what if I stayed in Almighty god of love for five minutes and it's going to be a little awkward for a little bit But what if I'm partnering with his spirit? And so we start singing god of love and then Abby begins to sing you are love you are love. I'm just making up a scenario you are love You are love you are love perfect love perfect love Perfect love and all of a sudden perfect love you are perfect love All that is what all that that we're explaining that I'm explaining is called faith in the room He's walking in the room saying I am perfect love and I will give you love and I will show you how to love But he is authoring that all I did was respond to him Does that make sense that little small utterance to practically to the Almighty god of love And it's risky because it's scary You know every time it's a little scary because I'm like lord I don't want to make a fool of myself and I want to I want to sing a song and I want to I love I like the good job Joel But I have to die to the good job Joel because I want to leave that stage Knowing that I was obedient to what he told me to do right? And but it's always going to be risky fault like the life of faith will always be risky And that's why we need god. We will always have to be dependent on him Always we are supposed to be dependent on him. I have five minutes Um Has all this made sense Okay, so I'm going to finish with this one of the most common questions we get asked in our community is How do you establish a worship culture? Like how do you do what you do? You know we watch we watch the youtube videos you guys it seems like you guys are always on it But those are highlights first of all and Am I right? You know, but but our leadership are like our pastor Michael Miller Larissa like Trace Jonathan Lewis all these beautiful fathers and mothers that we have have made it a priority that our goal And our uh mandate is to minister to god We minister to god because he's god because it's the first and foremost commandment You will love god with all your soul mind strength heart And then love neighbor we love our neighbors obviously, but it has to start with I love you lord I love you lord because I love you lord And the simp but the simplest way Is that we are students of his presence and of his spirit? and so There's so many practical things that I could that that we could share with you But I think I I think that what the lord is teaching me even now Even recently I've been I've been at up room for eight years and I feel like it's taken me eight years to understand That I need to listen to god before I sing about god That I need to listen again for real. I need to listen to god talk about himself And then I can sing that And and practically I love I love having a set list because the set list helps me communicate things that i'm feeling about the lord And we song write a lot we song write because we want to communicate what we're feeling towards the lord and towards each other, you know But i'm just realizing more and more I need I need to listen before I sing I need to listen before I speak I need to listen To him before I start talking about him. I we're still learning how to engage him. He's an eternal god He we want to remain students for the rest of our lives And I feel like you being here and listening to me freak out for the past hour about like spirit and truth, you know, it's You are students of the presence of god And you are hungry for him and our our community is predominantly made up of young a lot of young people And it's amazing But then something it just hits different when people that have been Christian for like 30 years Still respond to the presence of god Because then it shows me as a 31 year old I am going I'm going to go through hard things, but if I can still cry when he shows up. That's the goal of my life And so I don't I love that we're young But if you're here older and you're responding to the lord I want to tell you we need that because it teaches me teaches us that I could still keep following him Yeah I we have three minutes Thank you. Caleb Honestly, I'm gonna read something else. Okay I'm gonna read the bible go to first karanthians chapter two I work we are gonna have a A breakout session with with a whole team. So Maybe we can save our questions for that. Is that cool? Caleb? Okay, great So if you have any questions, I would we we would love to answer as many as possible So, uh, yeah, I just want to read this over us Say this with me with a kick spirit and truth And then say faith Great, okay chapter two first karanthians 2 11 through 16 For who among men Knows the thoughts of man Except the spirit of the man which is in him Even so the thoughts of god no one knows except the spirit of god Now we have received not the spirit of the world But the spirit who is from god So that we may know the things freely given to us by god Which things we also speak not in words taught by human wisdom But in those taught by the spirit Combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words But a natural man does not accept the things of the spirit of god for they are foolishness to him And he cannot understand them because they are spiritually appraised But he who is spiritual appraises all things yet. He himself is appraised by no one verse 16 This is what I wanted to get at for who has known the mind of the mind of the lord that he will instruct him But we have the mind of christ Holy spirit, I thank you so much for these beautiful people. I thank you just for teaching us continually that we need you to need you lord We need you jesus to be able to say that we need you in our own strength. We get weary we get Crusty we get tired But when we hear you When you lead us all of a sudden we remember why we said yes to you jesus. We need your spirit We need your spirit and I thank you for every person in this session lord that they are so hungry for your presence God, I pray that you would begin to move in their churches and their communities like never before God, I pray that you would give them. What is their deposit for their house? I pray that you would give them their deposit and that you would remind them. What have you given them for their house jesus We bless every person's house here lord And I just say holy spirit move in those communities God, we are part of the body. We need the body. We need the body So holy spirit move in the body Move in the body and move in the body jesus We love you lord. We thank you for what you're already doing You're already doing it jesus Your name we pray amen