 Me wearing my pied piper t-shirt. Oh, yeah, that's that's like a three-year-old Joe Yeah, that's the right. Cool. Now you can count yourself in Alright, I Still have an echo, but it's not if you guys can't hear it all deal. Okay in three two Daily Tech News show is powered by you to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash supports for Friday May 25th 2018 Tom Merritt is out today. I'm studio feline. I'm Sarah Lane And from hack 5 studios here in Oakland, California. I'm Shannon Morse. Hey, Shannon. Good to see you again What's going on at the hack 5 studios these days? Oh, we've been busy. Yeah, things are coming together really well here I'm super excited. We have lots of really good segments lined up. Just went to Maker Faire tell you all about it Awesome good stuff producer Roger Chang is here as well. Happy Friday, Roger Happy Friday to all and it's actually sunny here like for the past several days. It's been overcast Through behind the clouds. You're so lucky. Yeah, it's not sunny on my side of town It's very windy very allergy inducing but you know Life is pain. Okay. Let's start with a few tech things. You should know that will not give you pain The general data protection Regulation you might know it better as GDPR is now law Several organizations have already made complaints about Google Facebook What's up Instagram and others arguing that users are being forced to give consent to the new rules or be locked out Even though the law prohibits forcing consent a handful of publications including the LA Times and Chicago Tribune Also became unavailable to many readers in the EU, which has drawn criticism From the European data and protection board. We're gonna talk a lot more about this in greater detail a little later in the show Oh, yes, we are. I'm excited about it, too a jury in the retrial in the case between Apple and Samsung to determine damages owed to Apple for Samsung infringing on Apple's intellectual properties has a verdict Samsung must pay Five hundred thirty eight million dollars to cover five design and utility patents Apple was originally awarded one billion dollars But the case has been tied up in various courts including the Supreme Court for six years That's a long time. Oh, it's the trial that would not and I think Samsung wanted the one billion Reduced to something like twenty eight million. So wow probably a win for Apple in this case Yeah, that's less than what they wanted the New York Times and Reuters both report the Trump administration Told Congress it had reached an agreement with ZTE Which as you probably know currently has a seven-year ban against US companies supplying parts to the company CTE reportedly will play a penalty Shuffle up its management and hire American compliance officers in return. The US would drop this current ban Trump has called the ZTE negotiations part of a broader talk to address alleged Chinese trade abuses Hmm. I'm glad they actually came to an agreement because ZTE has made some really really nice products in the past So I would like to see them continue that and have the more competitive market that we've seen Yeah, I mean the yeah, anyway ZTE. Yeah, good old ZTE. All right. Let's talk more about Tesla Settled a class-action lawsuit Thursday with buyers of its Model S and Model X cars who alleged Tesla's assisted driving autopilot system was essentially unusable and demonstrably dangerous Tesla agreed to compensate car owners who purchased the 2.0 version of autopilot and had to wait longer than expected for the driving features to become active class members who paid an extra $5,000 to get the autopilot upgrade between 2016 and 2017 will receive between $20 and $280 in compensation Tesla has agreed to place more than 5 million into a settlement fund, which will also cover attorney costs and other fees Wow. Yeah, don't spend it all in one place $5,000 to get autopilot early Yeah, well class action. Yeah, I get these in the mail all the time, right? You might be part of a class-action suit and sometimes I Investigate oftentimes I don't because in many cases it all kind of goes to lawyer fees Yep, but the idea of paying extra to get a Feature that was you know late. Okay, that's fine, but if it also doesn't work properly That's a problem. Yes, absolutely. I would want to refund if I would them Yeah, Tesla had an interesting week to say the least Sources tell Bloomberg that essential products ink that makes the essential phone co-founded by Android creator Andy Rubin Wants to sell itself and has stopped development on essential smartphones. The sale could include Essentials patent portfolio Hardware products beyond the phone like a smart home device that it was apparently in the works and a camera attachment for the phone Essentials engineering talent may be part of a deal as well last November Rubin took a short leave of absence from the company Mid reports about workplace misconduct during his time at Google I'm not super surprised about this information coming out of essential because it seemed like they were on Kind of shaky grounds for a while now. So to hear that they've finally just decided to sell itself Not necessarily something that I'm surprised about at all Yeah, it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Andy Rubin just personal stuff. No, absolutely not It might it might it might not I know that the essential phone the original phone remember when Tom got his is very excited about it Nice phone, but didn't sell very well, right exactly and there've been updates since then and yeah You know a lot of people say there's nothing wrong with it It's just a really competitive market and it's also not the cheapest phone So when you look at it in that sense, it's you know, it's almost like a Tesla of smartphones It's you know, if you capture the attention and you know the the delight of users great But if you can't you're not gonna be around very long. Yeah, it's it's sad It's a little disappointing because I like seeing more competition in the cell phone market like I mentioned was ETE But to make a phone that's so expensive. I I think they were expecting to sell a lot more than they actually did Yeah According to new sales data by Canalis Google took the first spot in smart speaker sales in Q1 2018 Beating Amazon for the first time Google shipped 3.2 million Google home and home mini devices in the quarter Compared to 2.5 million echo devices Chinese manufacturers Alibaba and Jomi took third and fourth place both beating Apple's home pod sales Well, we knew the home pod was not going to be number one Right sales have lagged in part because they were late to market and also expensive But the echo has been in the top spot for some time So this is very interesting Shannon. Do you do you have a Google home or an echo or? Weirdly I have both which I almost don't want to say because of all the craziness with Apple With the echo this week and how it was secretly spying on people and everything but yeah I own both of them and again not surprised with this news because when we went to CES this year DTNS and tech thing as well We noticed a lot of Google home or Google assistant integrated in all sorts of different kinds of products So I think it's becoming a really household well-known Brand and well-known name as far as using assistant goes also a lot of times I find that it's easier to use because it's integrated straight with your Google account as opposed to the echo which requires You know third-party APIs or services to be connected to it Yeah, you hear a lot of reports lately of of PCs now shipping with Amazon's assistant You know who she is and that's all fine and good But yeah Shannon I think you make a good point that if you are in the Android Google ecosystem on any you know at reasonable level Then if you are at least starting out with a home device It's just more integrated and yes, you know you can you can you can use Amazon's AI as well But for anybody who's like well, what's already you know built-in, right? You know Amazon was really enjoying a a runaway hit there. It's also less expensive than the Google home Not that many but it you know, so it's it's uh, yeah, it's a race. It looks like Google's taking the lead At the Viva Technology Industry Conference in Paris Yann LeCun chief AI scientist for Facebook said the company is designing Energy-efficient computer chips to analyze and filter live video content saying that current systems take too much energy Need to be redesigned. He added quote Facebook has worked on hardware before it makes his own server design motherboards its own communications chips for data centers So this is not completely new for Facebook Hmm interesting also making a smart speaker as I recall which was supposed to be introduced at f8 But that didn't happen true true. Yeah Hmm. Oh Facebook Valve says Apple denied approval of its Steam link app for iOS Which lets users stream PC games from a computer on the same home network Apple initially approved the app on May 7th, but revoked it two days later citing business conflicts with the app guidelines Valve says it appealed that decision Because the Steam link app simply functions as a land-based remote desktop similar to numerous remote desktop applications already available on the app store The app has been available on Android since May 17th. Now as far as I know the valve Application that allows you to stream video games is quite secure and it doesn't have any issues as far as that goes So I don't know what Apple's deal is as far as Approving it at first and then denying it two days later. That seems odd Well, and valve is correct in the sense that there are other remote desktop apps on iOS Yeah, you know go to my PC comes to mind, but there are quite a few and Last I checked they were not being revoked There's been some speculation and Shannon. I want to get your thoughts on this you too, Raj Um, if this is about games, which of course iOS makes a percentage of from purchases Right an iOS game rather than remote desktop into a PC and iOS and Apple rather doesn't like the idea of losing out on that revenue Could that be part of this? You that's actually a really good point and that one that I didn't necessarily think of probably because I don't use Apple very often for any My devices Go ahead Roger. I would say the only issue with that is this tool only allows you to do it over a local local area network So if you're at home and you have a gaming PC But you're sitting up in the front with your couch And you're watching like say the game and in but you know during the commercials You want to get some game time and you don't have to charge all the way back to your to the bedroom or wherever you have your PC set up You know and it could very well be like Apple might have something similar As an idea that partnership that they want to explore down in the near future I mean steam steam is one of those things that you know for a lot of a lot of gamers is kind of DD facto platform on PC if you want to if you want a game on it. It's convenient It's relatively inexpensive. I mean that the app is free and they constantly do weekend sales for for a number of games So it's not unreasonable to expect a game that lists for 60 maybe be you know 20 10% 10 to 20% off on special deals, especially triple-a games And you know, it's it could very well be that they just want to like set up the the field for something they have In the works Yeah, I mean if the app was approved on the 7th of this month, which is you know a few weeks ago And then revoked a couple days later. That's a That's another sort of weird twist in this, right? If it was just denied outright, then you say, okay Well, they'll figure it out, right and steam will understand what happened But the fact that it is now May 25th and steam saying business conflicts were appealing is a is a I don't know. The app store is convoluted in lots of ways. It's very odd Especially since it's currently working on Android since May 17th. They've had no issues there You can stream video games with Android products with no problems whatsoever So obviously there's no business conflict between Android or Google devices and and steam or valve. So What's what's the problem Apple? I want to know more and there might be more to the story, obviously Yeah, I mean it might be something different than What valve is saying? Hey, hold on a second remote desktop other people do that other companies do that Yeah, there might be something in the code that that isn't right with Apple's businesses And I'm sure we will hear more about it very soon To get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes or less subscribe to daily tech headlines Commer minder DTNS will be taking Monday off or Memorial Day in the US But we will have daily tech headlines because we don't want you to go missing on the news Speaking of news. All right. Here's the moment We've all been waiting for seems like months now GDPR. It's live I mean at least on DTNS it's like, oh man GDPR wins May 25th. Now it's here Now we can all you know, stop getting these emails about privacy updates from weird companies that we forgot we ever did business with Not exactly the case because it's big It's a new regulation and there's going to be some snags So as we mentioned earlier in the show, uh, there are companies that uh, some other organizations are going after For complying in a way that is deemed incorrect by some one, uh, non-profit org called none of your business Which is a great name made complaints about google facebook WhatsApp and instagram the ladder Are are owned by facebook arguing that users are now being forced to give consent Or they get locked out of the service altogether even though the law says You can't force users to give consent So this is a tricky one shannon. I have seen some of these pop up and again, we're in the u.s. So The these laws aren't aren't directly applying to us at least not right now while we're here but If facebook says hey, we've updated our privacy policies You've got to agree to them And I say I don't want to and facebook's like okay. Well, you don't have a facebook account until you do this And gdpr says when facebook you can't do that What do we do? Yeah, I It's impossible to say really. I mean gosh, that's a hard hard thing to answer to be honest, sarah, but um The the problem that I find with this with facebook's Issues or facebook's dealings here is that they're not giving users an actual choice They're strictly saying either you you Agree with our advertising Dealings or you just delete your account you don't have an account anymore and given that facebook is so Like I want to say invasive and intrusive in our daily lives. Just no really no matter who you are It's almost impossible. I'll tell somebody like oh well You just can't have an an account anymore unless you've taken a lot of steps to you know Get people to contact you off of facebook and things of that nature So I can completely understand why this company in the EU has decided to go after facebook and instagram and What's happened? I forget what the other one was right off the top of my head But it completely makes sense that they've decided to do this because they they are not actually giving users a choice at all And facebook it seems like this is their way around gdpr so that they don't necessarily have to You know abide by the standards of this new regulation in the u so I'm just I'm I'm disappointed in the fact that facebook is taking this route and I'm glad that they are being sued and they are Being looked at by the regulatory powers in the EU because I I don't think what they are doing is right From a privacy protection standpoint And I would like to see them be regulated more because we've seen what's been happening with facebook for the past year And another problem that I have with this is that they've had a two-year grace period And I just kind of wanted to throw that out there like things didn't go into effect until today But there was a two-year grace period for these companies to start Getting under this gdpr regulation. So why are they all of a sudden being like well? Sorry, either you delete your account or you gotta you gotta share your information with us It's just unfair. Yeah, just to clarify The non-profit none of your business is complaining not suing Could happen could happen, but these are you know, these are initial steps, but uh, you know, it could it could be become more of a thing another group Based on the uk called privacy international launched an investigation into companies That do those behind the scenes trading of personal data that they get from companies like google or facebook axa-com uh, cri-ta-o never heard of it quantcast I have Now the gdpr poses fines of up to 20 million euros or four percent of global revenues For breaking these rules not insignificant, whichever is higher. So Yeah, yeah, I think it's we're we're going to see some messiness here. I mean, it's definitely some messiness because You know as as much as we like to rail against the large evil tech companies for being, you know Incredibly capricious with our information and you know almost willingly Uh willing to throw people under the bus to to get ahead so to speak um The thing is these suits these fines really affect the smaller fish if you're a google if you're a facebook 20 million euros. I hate to say it isn't That much of a disincentive or four four percent of global revenues, but it's four percent Or 20 million whichever is greater later, but you know Well, yeah, there are companies that can settle these things Yeah Well, the the the perverse the perverse outcome of this and you already see it with google at uh AdSense, um, is that a lot of the smaller smaller players that used to do the aggregate? Add add add add selling doing what google did was probably will probably be just basically Push out of the market because it'll take a larger fish that can not only comply with the rules But can also deal with any fines or something Hiccups along the way and so what you will have in some cases and this is my opinion This isn't this isn't any kind of uh thing that's written in stone You might have a situation where you basically Reinforced the the Monopoly that a lot of these companies already have in the respective fields in that part of the world Some news sites uh speaking of the u.s. Uh that are based in the u.s. Temporary Temporarily unavailable in the u following following gdpr Whew So I actually saw some stuff about this last night because I follow a few reporters who work for the la times the la times which The parent publisher is tronk Publishes the chicago tribune as I mentioned earlier The orlando sentinel baltimore sun new york daily news posted a message telling users It was sorry without really saying why access was revoked for a lot of people in the european union Another company lea enterprises which publishes 46 daily newspapers more regional and in the u.s. Across 21 states gave a similar statement said we're sorry The site is temporarily unavailable. We recognize your attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the european economic area Including the eu which enforces gdpr and therefore cannot grant you access at this time Shannon as you mentioned In 2016 was when the eu adopted gdpr and said everybody's got a couple of years to make the necessary changes This was replacing a very old data protection directive from 1995 So the whole idea was hey privacy is a whole different ballgame now. We've got we've got to update this stuff So a lot of these companies and these publications in particular people are saying well, what's the problem? You know, do you not have enough readership? You know or audience abroad to make changes exactly Yeah, or did you kind of think that it wasn't going to work or I mean it's it's all just skepticism on my part But I I truly believe that a lot of these companies just didn't put any time into developing new privacy policies for their companies or they just Didn't want to to put money towards it because obviously you're gonna have to either hire a lawyer to figure out the privacy policies for you Or you'll have to put on a lot of time yourself to do it I mean from a consumer standpoint We only started really learning about gdpr a few months ago, but from a I sell merchandise online with hack 5 standpoint We've heard about gdpr for years and it's not the first time that this has been developing at all at all so It's almost a red flag in one way for these new sources to just be like We're gonna just block access You can't access us anymore because they I feel like they've lazily just chosen not to do the gdpr stuff I'm the devil's advocate here and You know, you see this with a lot of businesses businesses on a lot of regulation because They have a particular business model that they generate revenue from And so they will always look at everything through a very financial lens, right? If I if I cut off this potential readership How does that affect the bottom line if I overhaul not just the way I Do infer a collect readership information But the way I can leverage it to sell ads in order to generate revenue to keep this operation going And I lose business that way You know, you you literally put them on a scale and you see what makes more financial sense I mean, that's what insurance underwriters do, right? They go through and they say well, they they they assess your risk Uh for certain things and this, you know, I mean perversely like for car companies like well, you know We can either take the hit on the pinto And pay everyone out that that sues us or we could re Like redesign and overhaul the car that's going to be phased out in a couple of years anyway And so you take the path of lease resistance When it comes to the bottom line because you know As crass as it is. I mean most of these You know newspapers most of these music outlets are businesses and that's what they look at You know, I have I have I've heard that argument A little bit on the twitterverse And I was going to come back at you and be like I will debate this with you I think they should offer a paid service But then if they don't offer the or if they did offer a paid service and somebody didn't want to pay then They would just not have access whatsoever But then wouldn't they run under the same problems that facebook and instagram and what's up are facing currently where either you offer it Or well, that's that's the that's the argument like will facebook roll out a paid version In in the areas that are under gdpr Regulation and they would just say you know what you pay your 10 euros a month to access facebook And you won't be tracked. We won't use data, but this is the amount of money we need per person to keep facebook running Yeah, so I can I can absolutely understand that sentiment for new sources. I mean myself included You know, we we strive to Make what we can off of youtube or off of advertising revenue or whatever it might be for whatever new source that you work at So it it makes sense that they need some way to make money and if they can't do it through the eu What choice do they have really? well, i'm sure there's people who are Opposite gdpr and you could write us write into us and tell us all about it, but For the most part everyone I know who is based there is like this is great. These laws are good These are you know improved privacy laws. So Kind of ironic that maybe your favorite publication Maybe it's the tribune all of a sudden you're like, huh more privacy And now i'm cut off from something so you know that's a bit counterproductive Bit counterproductive, but again, this is day one gdpr may 25th just happened today So there will be more to the story and don't forget and don't forget everybody just in case you can't survive without those new sources There's always a vpn Indeed there is Thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit. We love you guys. You have good ideas You find stories regularly that I have not seen otherwise So I need you keep it up submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show reddit.com If you prefer facebook, we are there as well facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Got an email from darin from cam loops british cumbia. I hope I said that right and he says Hi guys, please settle an argument. I'm having with my wife What the heck is that statue action figure in the background of sarah's studio? I think you're talking about enid from ghost world unless you're talking about domokan. It's probably enid That's who it is enid from ghost world. I don't know what your argument was, but I'd love to know more about it Hopefully that answered the question darin Have a nice weekend Now I am kind of curious about which what the character was that he thought it was or that his wife thought it was Yeah, exactly She's great though. You can take her little hat off. She's got a little she has a um a club I don't know where it is, but you can put it in her hand. I don't know. She's she's my little friend Well, moving on to a tech related email Mike wanted to add to our discussion earlier this week about police using amazon facial recognition software for their body cameras He writes regarding amazon's partnerships with police departments sarah made an offhand comment that amazon probably wasn't going to meld together It's recently acquired network of ring cameras with whatever With whatever recognition turns into it may be the name of the the ai that they're using Yeah Law enforcement It made me remember another story that popped up about a month ago and now in conjunction with the news about facial recognition Leads to some interesting hypothesizing about the possibilities for identifying criminal suspects Uh, and he also linked to an article from may 1st about orlando city commissioners Approving a partnership between the orlando police department and the ring video doorbell security systems fighting crime all right Well, Mike kind of disproved my theory that I was like amazon doesn't want to get involved in criminal investigations If you've got a yeah Facial recognition camera at your front door and there's a suspect who might be in some police database somewhere Well, it sounds like at least in certain cases. It is being tried. Yeah. It's interesting I'm uh, I'm gonna follow that a lot more because that sounds really fascinating Uh, well shannon that is precisely the reason among many why we love having you on the show because you're so good at the stuff and you always have all the uh, the the the The information that uh, it goes a little bit beyond what a lot of people I think probably put into privacy But that's what you do. In fact, tell folks Where they can learn more about your security know-how Well, thank you sarah. Yeah, I always try to think about those security and privacy loopholes So that y'all don't have to think about them because it Oh, we think about them Sometimes like your expertise It gives me headache sometimes just thinking about all that crazy stuff, but Hack 5.org h a k 5.org That's the place where you can check out all the different shows that I do and um, currently I am on the verge of posting my episode about maker fair a little teaser trailer there Which was super fun. So we also got to do a little bit of b-roll for tech thing te k thing At maker fair and I interviewed a girl who built her own bb8 And she's currently in the midst of getting it up and running which was so exciting And if you're watching the video feed right now that giant mech behind me I also interviewed the driver of that thing the pilot and uh, that thing is like 8 000 pounds So i'm really glad that it didn't fall on me while we were recording our segment But it was crazy watching that thing walk across maker fair. It was a little bit scary and uh, I kind of want one Maker fair it's is it getting bigger over the years. Do you find because I know you've been to many of them You know, I felt like uh, I went three years ago. I missed the last couple years because of conventions and vacations and stuff but The year that I did go it felt a lot more crowded this year did not feel as much crowded Not because there were less people But I think that it they've they've grown as far as location size goes So they've given people a lot more room to actually walk around And uh, it was a lot easier to walk around not as many strollers this year, which I really appreciated and It was great. Yeah, good times Good times at maker fair and good times with shannon morse also good times with everybody who supports the show Special thanks to our patrons without you We would not exist. We love existing. Thank you patreon.com slash dtns is where you can learn more about the Patient levels and how you can support us and please check out daily tech news show dot com slash store You want to buy a little something? Maybe you need a new t-shirt. They're nice and soft Available in your size. Check it out. 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He's he's he's uh He's been active. He had a couple of meetups in australia during his time there Uh, uh I really hope he's dressed. I mean we were all kind of like dude. You should take some time off Right. Well, he was uh, he and uh, eileen were in sydney and then melbourne Um, somebody corrected me. I said melbourne the other day. Oh, yeah melbourne melbourne melbourne toast and uh, I don't know maybe there have been a few places in between but uh I don't know. I can't wait to hear more about it. Yeah, you should have He promised us joey's on his return. Oh, I went one. I asked for two I just needed one to keep my kid happy Right I'm like, I mean one is fine. But if you can give me two, I want two Don't ask for drop bears. You'll know. No drop. What are drop bears? You should google it. No, they're not fictitious. There are pictures online There they are. I have been to australia. I have seen I've been there twice. I have not seen any. I've been It's a fictitious bear that supposedly drops some eucalyptus trees and attacks you they're like eating koalas They have really sharp teeth and very sharp claws Poiny teeth. I tried this on tom six months ago. He didn't believe me and they're and their eyes turn red Whenever they see tourists No, that's just a local drill. No, it's not sarah google it. I swear going to right this and There are bin chickens Those are real big bin chickens are a real thing they call them They call but they call them don't they call them dirty ibises I don't know like they have them. So now is up in the gold coast. They have Ibises but they're they have like black beaks instead of a lighter like oh, yeah, that's where I was the gold coast Yeah, um, and they call them Wikipedia says that this is a hoax About a predatory Koala Didn't I just Did I not just say that? Yeah, but wikipedia is like, you know If it's on the internet, it must be true So as far as show titles gdpr or gtfo is funny Yes, but maybe maybe too aggressive. I don't know Happy gdpr hangover day That's tomorrow Because consent debris You know, instead of consent decree, it's debris That's bread. We could say gdpr consent debris to give it a little bit more context. Okay Oh, I like that Let's do that. Yep. I like it gdpr Consent debris done done Oh, yeah But yeah For everybody who has been watching the last couple weeks, you know, I don't want to give like an oscar speech or anything but thanks so much for um I don't know being so cool to all of us. I've not done the show For two weeks in a row without tom here and there sure but You know, roger has been the biggest help ever And of course shannon and all of our regular contributors just, you know, kept everything afloat. So thank you Thanks, sarah. That means of course. Yeah Just, you know, it's a it's a teamwork makes the dream work, right? This is a picture of a bin chicken. Oh Which is when when I was there they were referred to as a dirty ibis Um, yeah, it doesn't look like a chicken at all. It kind of looks like a It's a publican slash You know, it's wanted that they used to term chicken because in australia chuk is slang for chicken. So you would say bin chuk Oh Chuk I didn't know that either you go down to the shops for a chuk of australian trivia I know not. There's so many that must be a great topless bar. There's four x's on it. No, roger. That's a beer. It's called four x beer. It's like, uh Yeah, like is there any like triple x But well, like when you have four, I don't think that means like more, uh, racy, right? No such thing as four x Oh, here. You don't believe me? No, I mean When it refers to oh Oh, not safe for work material So this is okay. Everything I see here right now is a bottle So that that has to be safe, right? Um Yeah, so that's four x's golden But that they just had signs Oh, yeah, I see this I just see it in the window. I was like, oh, there's so many topless bars like two doors down from each other. It's like No, it's beer. Oh, I get it. I get it. That's funny Uh, yes, mcdonald's is a maca maca's Actually, I actually prefer their big max there because they use like The thing about mcdonald's and people really rag on them for being a large faceless corporate entity Um, is that when they source their food stuffs? They source it locally So if you get like a burger and mcdonald's and and sydney or melbourne melbourne Melbourne You're you're gonna get it from a local cow or localized regional cow Uh, it's pretty good. It's not bad. The breakfast still sucks, but the the other stuff is fine Is that some australian law where No, no, like mcdonald's gets a lot of you know, the you know beef and other sources everything locally because that's how their supply chain works Well, that's I don't I mean I don't really want to say anything because I don't know what i'm talking about But I was under the impression that a lot of the beef that mcdonald's feeds people comes from outside the us What they say outside of the us they probably mean mexico or canada, but most of the meat is us meat It's just the the problem with the meat is that they Do stuff to it in order to maximize the amount of protein they can get off the bone and to do that The originally you would come up with something that had the consistency of the pink slurry that everyone talked about Like the infamous pink slurry You know what I I basically don't eat fast food burgers ever if I grab a burger it's gonna be at a sit-down restaurant or something I cook at home I love mcdonald's so much You what I love mcdonald's so much I I like I have one weakness And that's their apple pie I don't know what it is It's their apple pie in The continental united states and this their taro pie in hawaii, you know when you go to mcdonald's in hawaii They have a The taro pie. Yeah Great. It's so good. I need to try that next time. I'm visiting my sister. Let's go to mcdonald's. This is the thing People make fun of you, but you should go to every mcdonald's in every foreign place you go to Yeah, I went to the one in uh, tokyo and it was really good. Yeah Like cool I hadn't been to mcdonald's for Probably a decade maybe more until a few months ago and it's not because I don't eat garbage food I mean, I'll eat anything. So that's not really the reason I was just like, yeah, I don't like anything there You know, I just want to get something else, but uh, some friends and I were going through a drive through and I'm like, yeah I'm hungry. I'll just get something so I got mcnuggets and they were So good I haven't had them since then because I think it's dangerous to get on that path, but It is we're good. I don't know what what they were actually made of but I Yeah You'll end up like like me and roger over here eating mcdonald's every day. I don't even I don't like their burgers I actually every time I eat any of their food that isn't an apple pie And this includes their shakes their soft serve You know anything. Yeah, I instantly regret I shouldn't say I regret it within 10 minutes Really? I there's something that I don't this is the thing that I don't know what it is with fast food chains With the exception of maybe like in and out like there's like oil or or um, you know That they use when they cook everything and it's just I just I feel it doesn't sit well with you. It does not sit well with me and I feel gross afterwards Yeah The oil is what I want in my life like all the just give me all the french fry oil ever from mcdonald's I will say I like their tartar sauce now if they could get the tartar sauce separate And put it on a real fish filet sandwich or something Man, you know, those things are worse for you than their big macs. I mean the amount of fat and cholesterol Makes you want to eat it first, but then 10 minutes later My body says roger what we've had this discussion multiple times What have I told you buddy? Sorry anyone who works at mcdonald's. I'm not trying to slander your employment Right. I think we're all admitting we you know we we eat comfort food That's what we do. It's funny. I was having a conversation with a friend Yesterday, I guess and she was like I didn't even eat any vegetables today. I'm like I haven't eaten vegetables and Like a week. I know that vegetables are good for you and I try to eat them regularly, but and maybe other people are different, but I feel no different Really if I eat them or not Besides knowing that they're good for me. I'm like does it change my day though? Not really. I I actually Ingested in the form of a beverage I take kale and they shove it in a little magic bullet Just get it over with with frozen strawberries fresh strawberries A little bit of fruit juice mostly water And it tastes just like you think you would it tastes like it tastes like you mixed kale with fruit juice When I drink it and I get my fiber and all the other stuff that you're supposed to To have in your regular Healthy diet. Yeah, I'm sure if I went long enough without vegetables It would affect me Yeah, yeah It's sort of like vitamins, right? Like I have a shelf of vitamins But sometimes I just kind of forget and then I get out of the you know the the ritual And I just don't know what's really changing either way besides my general well-being and feeling like I'm doing good things So this is the thing with vegetables. I love vegetables. I hate preparing vegetables Because there's a lot of cleaning because on the ground like spinach if you ever had to clean fresh spinach Your sink would be like a beach. It's filled with sand because it's it glows glows it grows so close to the bottom Uh to the ground that dirt invariably gets inside it when they harvest it So yeah rinse it out and it's one of the reasons why I used to buy frozen spinach until I realized that spinach was giving me gout and I had to swear it off I buy the pre-washed which is more expensive But it it solves the issue you're talking about because yeah, I always like thought I washed it pretty good But then you take a bite and you're like, yeah, it's really good. It's really good I I bought a pack of strawberries But it's sort of it was the middle of the season. It was there was one in the pack that was super big like huge And I didn't want to bite into it. It's like, oh, it's kind of big I wonder what looks like if it's all meat inside so I split that part and there was like an insect in it like Like it laid an egg and it was eating I haven't had lunch yet. There was no like you saw no No, I didn't see See, all right. I'm off. I'm off all natural food Give me give me food cubes It's mcdottles or where it's nothing All right on that Thank you again for watching this episode of daily tech news show with sarah lane Shannon morse and myself roger jang will be back tuesday monday is an american holiday memorial day But tom will be back next week so you can all rejoice Yay back to normal For how long I don't know But I can tell you it's going to go back to normal, but my tuesday And we'll see you next week. Thanks everybody. Have a great weekend Bye