 Mae'n dda i chi fel chi o'r hwn yw llawer o'r ysgrifennid yw i'r Yrwbarth Arllun, Jóir Doe morn yn ystani yr Ysgrifennid yw, wedi gwineud y bydd yr iddoedd yn fwyaf iddohon ar y Department o unrhyw ysgrifennid yw whoad, ichi hefyd trwy'n mynd i'r Ysgrifennid yw, ysgrifennid hefyd dros y parw yw ddwyodd ar y codesresol, ran wneud oherwydd yr Ysgrifennid ei'r Ysgrifennid yw hefyd, Un steel between the D.S.S. Cooks and Igboho's Guards which lasted for an hour. They say weapons of different types were found in Igboho's residence and lamenting the killings in the country, the aree and knocker Modg o Yr Euribau land gani Adams said the call for liberation of Yr Euribau race is legitimate one and it's the right of the people saying the events in the south west showed that the time is up for Yr Euribau to exit the country. Mae'n dgoidio i wneud i'w ddisgustus. Fiol syniad yw Nelson y Cwujimu, Ffemi Lluysin, bod wir bod i'n flwyddyn o'r anolwydd yn y stilonau ac Dixon Osaagie, y fymell fyddionaf yw cyfusio cyfusiol. Efallai ar ôl ach am ymddangos. Felly o ddim yn fawr y fawr. Felly dyma chi'r Dixon yw'r cyfusiol yw salut. O'r ffordd o'n ddefnyddio ac ymddangos ar hyn o'r ffordd yma'r colligio gananc arno yw ddyses. now that we know. We've seen guns allegedly belonging to him, charms and all kinds of things and, in fact, they called one a spiritual bullet proof. And what do you make of all of this, you know, from a security perspective? Well, yes, we have got nobody incident on transpired after Sunday there was a reference. a hynny'n gallu gweld, mwych'n gofyn am yr yfynol, ni'n ffordd, nawr yn mynd i ddim yn ddifu'r cysyllt y mynd i'r bobl yn ymdwylliant, ac a'r goffnai wedi'u mynd i'u gyffrwymiad arifyn cyhoeddi i gyffrwymiad, yna yn meddwl ei dim demand. Speyddech chi'n gwneud ar gyfer y cysylltu ym ddechrau, oherwydd na'n rhoi dweud a'u choffo yma. A wnaeth yn ym wneud i'r goffnai i dechreu. Mae'r ddweud iawn yn gweithio'r ddweud am y cyfnodd hynny, maen nhw'n ddweud y gwrdd cyntaf ar gyfer gweithio cyfnodd, felly ei ddweud yr unrhyw ddweud yn cael ei ddweud, y ddweud yn gweithio'r ddweud, fath ydych chi'n cymryd allan iawn ar hyn o'r ddweud. Yn y ddweud, mae'r ddweud yn rhai'r ddweud ar yr ysgrifennu, i oes y ddweud a'r ddweud, y cyfnodd hynny, ios i'r ddweud o'r ddweud. Felly byddwch yn y gallu gwlad ar y cyfnod o hwnnw i'r sffydd ar y cyfnod yn ddweud yn egweithio i'r ddweud. Mae'n gweithio'r ddeithasol yn y gyfrifodol. O ydw i'r cyfnod ar-deddydd, mae'n gweithio cymaint ac yn y dda'i'r plynedd o'r cyfnod o'r cyfnod ychydig. Ac rwy'n adnod y cwrinio'r cyfnod o'r cyfnod, ac rwy'n adnod o'r cyfnod o'r cyfnod. ac rheswun yn fwy ddweud hynny. ydy nhw'n wedi eu bod yn ei chef o'r ymdwylliant yma wrth gwrs mewn hynny y gallwn i'w hunain'r ystod gan hynny i ffobwr hynny ychydigon ffordd. Ac mae'r ffodd fydd yn ei chyfrofyddiad y ddechrau o'r cyd-nau sydd ar y cyd-nyd i'n ffordd treed o'r cyd-nelyg, oherwydd i'w bwysig yn aa gennymiaid am gan hynny hi, ac efallai eu cyfrifi i'r cyd-nelyg ar yr ymddwylliant. empowerment are living in the state of these. The actions that are allowed will be done with different mechanisms to apply to arrest someone is brought up. They will be oppression of theimento stare where well there is your dinner I don't think is necessary because there are methods to apply in 그것ooding or arresting a criminal. Let's talk about the issue of non-state actors like Ibaru took Gwmi. We're seeing a rise of these people amidst the situations that we have been dealing with as a country. Many a security analysts and political pundits have said that it's because of the lapses that have been created by our politicians and our leaders. That is why we are seeing these people creep up because before now, these people probably didn't have a voice. How do we, because, yes, as much as this is a security situation, this is also some politics to it. Now, like I said at the beginning of this conversation, the Airenau Khanqafol has said that this move that the government has taken is trying to shut down, in fact, he said that the government is trying to suppress the growing agitation for a European nation. And so they seem, they seem to think that this is an affront of sorts by the federal government. So how do you deal with this kind of issue? How do you quiet these voices and somewhat do not cause an upro by certain communities? Oh, thank you very much, Miriam. That is an intelligent question. Once we must understand that if we don't apply force, it's not everything we apply force. The use of force must always be the last resort in contending with any incident. Looking at your questions, why has this people gained more momentum all over the world and in Nigeria, is that sometimes ago I made a complaint about the silence for our president. The long-time silence of the president really precipitated this act from these people because we must deal with crime as it comes. We must be natural about it. We must be sincere about it without nepotism, without a pair of religion, or whatever the case may be. Looking at Hamlet Gumi, many people have cried out that why hasn't the DSS invited Hamlet Gumi when he made some comments on filming back to the bandits that the military had yet to kill already Muslims. First kind of statement, I think it should be invited or cautioned that it's one of the cry from the public. Now, looking at the country before, people just feel that the government sometimes sent a base. They don't want to caution everybody from all nooks and crannies and they feel that the government is partial. From my own perspective, I think and I will advise the government that they must attack this crime and this threat from all nooks and crannies in Nigeria irrespective of our religion, traditions and ethnic bias. The question for the Yoruba nation, how many Yoruba people really back Sunday Boho and his agitation, how many of them actually approve of what he's doing? It is a direct result of the failure of the government. Whether anybody likes it or not, the Nigeria state today is failing to the extent that citizens are beginning to see the need for them to belong to their own micro-ethnic segment of the country. I would not want to totally agree that Sunday Boho represents the aspiration of the entire Yoruba people. I'm a Yoruba man, but I may not subscribe to the session agitation as a pro-restructuring person. But that's not delayed. Whatever Sunday Boho is doing today by calling for a Yoruba nation, by demanding for self-determination, it's a legitimate action. Self-determination all over the world is not crime, especially when such demands are made without resorting to violence. And if you look at the way Sunday Boho and his group have been conducting themselves to this agitation, their demands have been peaceful. It is now that the Nigerian state is deliberately trying to infuse violence into the movement, and it is very unfortunate that it will have... I'm sorry, Mr Lawson. Did you just say that the Nigerian state is infusing violence? You're saying that Sunday Boho is peaceful, but that the government is making him look like someone who is violent? Yes, that is what the Nigerian government is doing. By the recent action of the government, which resulted into the invasion of the residents of Mr Sunday Boho, without any search warrant or prior invitation or whatever, in a manner that makes the Nigerian government irresponsible. If you look at the same from that invasion, you've got to agree that the government has an agenda to instigate violence. And that is what has led to what we have witnessed, because before yesterday, I am not sure there have been a time that those groups of people demanding for Yoruba nation have been involved in any form of violence. And who have witnessed the violence it may keep you do or show and delight. But why are the points that they have in tension of organizing are not all so similarly, that the Nigerian government is taking violence to the home of one of their leaders? Like I said, I am not a pro secession person, but I think it is within the right of those who are demanding for secession. So do so in every legitimate manner, without resorting to violence. Okay, let me come to you Nelson Ekujimi. I did ask this question to Mr Lawson, but I'm going to ask you again. What Sunday Igboho is agitating for? Do you think that the Yoruba people want it? Are you sure that the Yoruba people want to succeed from Nigeria? Do you think that the Yoruba people want to go their own way just as certain people who support iPop are saying that they want to go their own way? Thank you very much. Good evening to our viewers. The truth of the matter is that Sunday Igboho or whatever you call him and his past represents Sunday Igboho and what he stands for. Sunday Igboho does not in any way represent the Yoruba people of which I am one. We have never at any point in time come together and decided that Sunday Igboho should lead the Yoruba cost. The Yoruba cost is fully protected within the geographical entity called Nigeria. Today we have elected representatives of Yoruba people in the National Assembly. We have them in the governor's office. We have them all over the elected institutions of our democratic system. Sunday Igboho is at the 13th. I believe people who are encouraging him to educate him on the fact that we run a constitutional democracy. I want to believe you and I know that the Yoribas are very many. It's not just a handful of people. The number of people that show up for these meetings that he has and these forests, it's incredible. The number of people that come out to cheer him, to support him, that seem to buy into his logic or his idea. It's a departure from what you and Mr Lawson have been saying. There are people who actually stand by him. Let's set aside Sunday Igboho. The area on our cacafol is also somewhat in support of this agitation. He's always continuously been in the news talking about the agitation for a Yoruba nation. I'm trying to understand are these people not people that represent the Yoruba people in Nigeria? The total matter, like I told you, is that the Yoribas are about 200 million plus. I want you to do a survey. Did you say 200 million? 200 million is about all of Nigeria, sir. Mr Kujumi, can you hear me? Well, quickly, Dixon, let's just wrap up with you because we cannot hear Kujumi. In closing, many have speculated as to what, if the DSS were to arrest Sunday Igboho, what will be his charge? Dixon, can you hear me? Unfortunately, we have lost them again, but thank you all for staying with us on the show. It's been Plus Politics. I am Marianna Cohn. We'll see you next week on a brand new show. Have a good evening.