 I just got done playing a very immersive virtual reality game, actually Steve did as well, called Eclipse from White Elk and I'm with Jonathan Hawkins who is the game developer. How are you doing tonight? Good, good, how are you? That was crazy. So I strapped a VR headset on us and some headphones and he did not even mock me for knowing which button, not knowing which button was which on a PlayStation controller. I thought that was very polite of him. But you did a great job. You got all the way through with like pretty much no help. Yeah, yeah. Not too bad. Pete Steve, that's what's really important here. But so tell us about the game and your development company. Sure, so White Elk is a new video game studio that I've founded. We're focusing on our first title Eclipse on a virtual reality based game. So we're kind of pioneering our frontier of virtual reality, figuring out what works what doesn't, getting it to run in frame and looking to really make an immersive experience for the player. That was extremely immersive. I mean I was terrified when that planet was blown up. I was like, that is not good. That is not a good thing happening next. I don't know what's going on, but I found it really fluid and easy to follow. For an old person, it helped me that you said, look down at your hands if it's telling you to do something, it'll highlight which button to put. Yeah, when I showed it off, I've been showing off a couple of VR events and we get some gamers or we get some people from Hollywood or all sorts of walks of life in industry. So not everyone knows the controller. So I ended up putting like a hologram version of it in there. Oh, it's brilliant because people who know will never notice it, but people who need it have it right there. That's a really great solution. I think. Yeah. I was working out really well. So you're like, oh, where's R2? Oh, it's that one that's highlighted. So what's your background? My background is, I went to school for computer science and USC, and then I worked at Sony Santa Monica for 10 years working on God of War 1, 2, and 3. Oh, wow. So you've got the chops, the background chops, the education and the experience. Yeah, yeah. It's very cool. So how do people find Eclipse? They can visit whiteelkstudios.com to get more information, and we're also going to be at VRLA next weekend. Oh, cool. And what system does this run on? Right now we're just, this is just a PC build. It's a PC game. Yeah. Okay, cool. But we don't have it out on Oculus Share or anything like that. Yeah. Okay, but that's where you're going. So were those Oculus that we had on? Yeah, yeah. So we have the Oculus DK2 right here, which is a development kit too, right? Yep. And the newer version is the consumer kit, which is supposedly supposed to come out next year. Okay, cool. Yeah, front of mine's got the DK2, so I played around with that a little bit. Very cool. All right. Thank you very much for your time. All right, thank you.