 Thanks very much Ken Anthony Joseph from Alfred E. Chave in Brisbane a wholesaler and exporter of fresh fruit and vegetables So directed at Hermione and TAF, you know the elephant in the room about Efficiencies in supply chains like the commercial reality of it and where the industry is at the moment is is quite confounding and When you step onto farms and talk with growers about Their own personal commercial aspects of the trade There's no real pathway forward, you know, you've got money that might be coming in to pay them directly So all your hard work into delivering value in supply chains can get circumvented by You know a an overseas buyer coming across and just paying for things up front so Just in your experience and work in the area I'd like to understand from a fruit and vegetable point of view Are there any projects in the pipeline or any discussions taking place in that regard? Only first and Thank you very much the Having worked in the fruit and vegetable industry for about ten years until I sort of switched into ports and port logistics for a while I Can tell you there were there were many and there were a number of Opportunities for fruit and vegetable growers to be connecting in with IT systems that would be designed for Specifically that that particular market and they will be to be trading systems And we're actually working on a number of them at the moment with the e-commerce programs with the food growth center And we're working on a number that will actually help fruit and vegetable growers to be able to identify the market get the really great Market information and the analytics to be able to to access markets better in terms of the communication systems We're also working on e-commerce programs to actually facilitate that as well So actually food growth precinct. I think could be a really good Protocol and that's where also they are right there sort of exist as a catalyst to be able to then attempt to get Good government program funding to support the industry in particularly small and medium operators and medium being a generous description Working in global markets, and I think they're really important because otherwise our growers have so much that they're dealing with Tafe would you like to add anything to that? probably not so much to the Logistics in horticulture, which I've been answered I would respond maybe to the question around capital that was raised in part of that question where you're finding a lot of farmers are Getting money from overseas and people are buying their farms. Is that is that part of your question? Yeah Yeah, so maybe that one goes mainly to the impact of what's happening globally And how that is driving our demand and supply locally So I probably don't have a direct answer to that safe to say, you know, we just need to have stronger relationships And it's probably something that Rebecca touched on where we need a whole of supply chain not just one commodity The whole of Australia needs to be working together and we need to have platforms that allow for that to happen as a bank We are interested in bringing people together across a value chain and we're very big on that We're supporting regions and we're trying to bring people within those regions closer. We do have Networks across the world that are coming in and perhaps maybe it goes to the point you're trying to make But when farmers are looking to get value, sometimes they'll look everywhere But I think stronger relationships locally would be an answer to that Is there anybody who's got a very quick question? If not, I'd like everybody to express their appreciation for our four participants It's a subject that or a series of subjects that could occupy at least two to three days of discussion But they've summarized it into what I think is a series of very valuable contributions. So if you could express your appreciation