 Well thank you everyone for coming today. I hope that those of you who are joining us are excited about learning more about our book and to talk more with the case study authors and lead authors that we're working with today. So introduce yourselves in the chat have a good time and I'm going to get started with sort of an introduction to what this book is and why we are talking about it here today with everyone. So first what is the OER start a kit for program managers? Hopefully some of you already know if you're here today but who knows. This book is was created to sort of bring attention to the level and breadth of work involved in building and managing an OER program. It contains 22 chapters and eight case studies so and I saw it 30 which addressed different aspects of open education work broken into seven major sections a quick guide to open ed building a program program management training and professional development supporting OER adoption supporting open textbook creation and collecting and reporting data on your program so sort of going through all of the little bits and pieces that make up doing open education work at a program manager level. For a little bit of a peek behind the scenes this book has been going on for now three years of development in 2019 I think it was fall we first came together with our lead authors to sort of come up with what the idea of this book would be and we collaboratively outlined all the different sections we wanted to be in this book. I'm going to wait a second as she joins the meeting but Stephanie Buck was really one of the lead thought leaders behind this work and without her sort of drive for we need to make sure to include these specific sections I don't think it would have turned out as in depth and as helpful resource as it is today so huge shout out to Stephanie for being amazing. During the 2019 and 2020 years we identified additional authors to develop case studies and put out sort of the first draft of what we would be putting together and then over 2021 and 2022 we did an open call for peer viewers and copy editors to look over the book I think probably the biggest piece of this was the 86 peer viewers some of you in the chat today who were assigned to different aspects of the book to really look it over and give us feedback on what needs to be tweaked here so it was quite a lot of people who had hands in this project and really helped to drive it into where it needed to be I want to also shout out Cheryl Casey who cannot be here today because of other issues but she was a huge huge lift and when it came to copy editing she has a lot of background in that work and even during the peer review process she caught so many little things that otherwise would have fallen through the cracks. So in 2022 during the spring we've been working on final edits importing depressed books working on the final formatting and design work and doing the book cover for the final publication so it's taken a couple of months but we've finally got it all together and here is where we are okay so before we get into more of the fun Q&A discussion bits I want to talk a little bit about how to use the book in your own work so it was primarily developed as a reference source something you can refer to when you're thinking about approaching a new project or practice at your institution there are a few other ways you can use it in your own practice too like supporting training for peers and new hires or communicating what is the scope of your work to an administrator or supervisor who might not understand oh here's a 30 chapter book about the level of work that I'm doing guys this might help you but there's a lot of different ways to potentially use the book in your own work and so what I'd like to ask you all now is what's another way you hope to use this book in your professional practice feel free to raise your hand if you'd rather unmute or to post it in the chat Amanda hi I'm really looking forward to being able to incorporate it into professional development activities for folks who are starting to do this work so I developed a course for KPU that sort of does an introduction to how to support folks who are doing open education work and I would love to add it as a resource to that course to start with a great idea I've heard of folks maybe adding this book to lib guides trying to again orient people who are maybe new to this type of work again it doesn't need to be someone who is a sole program manager but someone who might be involved in these efforts there's a lot of sections on teams in the different departmental roles that help make a OER initiative an OER initiative successful so love that you're already incorporating it into the KPU course and Bahid says they are looking forward to recommending the book or extracts of the book to organizations that want to foster the creation of OER I love that we're thinking beyond the typical college or institution so they are thinking about ministries of education NGOs and so on Jeff is there more that is coming in into the chat that you'd like to highlight well the next one was about so this was from Stephanie Fletcher saying that she's entering the second semester of running a new OER program well welcome and hopes to use this both as a resource for herself but also for the faculty who partner with her to promote OER on campus I think that's a really good point like involving what I would call your champions of which others call advocates etc I think that's really cool also if you're if you're new to the OER programs contact us if you have any questions to them we'd be glad to have getting other ideas to improve the OER initiative yet using it to view OER program through different perspectives neat Paul says shared as a resource in my institution but shared with all participants in an online Caribbean wide course on online learning that's really neat yeah if there are folks you know that are thinking about different ways that they can get invested or interested in ways to support online and distance learning and supporting other kinds of work that's related to open it it might be useful to share a guideline like this or a guidebook like this to help them think about oh this ties directly into OER or the work we're already doing could be partly related to OER as well we could partner with you on making this sort of a broader initiative that supports multiple things like all of you with your great ideas okay so moving on I want to get to the next slide just to give people a little bit of a chance to learn from our chapter in case study authors about what do you most want readers to take away from your contributions to the book so is there something that you think is particularly noteworthy that you'd like them to see or to learn from is there something that a chapter that you contributed to that you're particularly proud of or perhaps for the case study authors a takeaway from your case study that you think oh this is something I really hope that people get out of this when they're reading through it or can think about good morning good afternoon my name is Regina Gong I am the OER and Student Success Librarian at Michigan State and one of the case study authors in this awesome OER so thank you everyone for for attending this launch party so my case study is in the chapter on building an OER program and it's peaks to my experience running an OER program in a community college and now at a land grant R1 University and I think what what I want are readers to not really take away right but to to just understand is the experience of running an OER initiative by librarians that are not really represented in the open space so my perspective as a woman as a woman of color running an OER initiative and also that often not talk about subject of labor most especially invisible labor that comes with doing this this kind of work and so hopefully you know when you when you read this case study and my experience it actually inspires you and also makes you think about even as we run it out of our passion out of our commitment sometimes if the institution is not willing to support the work the work of the most passionate librarian or advocate in this field will not be successful so that's that's all thanks well I did a lot of the data analysis and reporting stuff at the end and I think the big takeaway from it is that you can do it even if you don't have a background in data analysis I sure didn't when I first got started there are some things that you can do to get your OER program started on the on the right foot in collecting that data and being able to answer the big questions that will come at you there it's meant to be absolutely not imposing and shout outs to the peer reviewers who pointed out like the ways in which things could be like configured to be more educational like more process oriented so you'll see step by step stuff in those chapters and the reason why I step by step is that the peer reviewers noticed that I was doing a little bit of it but not enough so I've brought it all together into that framework to make it more of a like entire process step by step thing so yeah it's it's absolutely doable work for sure and yes thank you Regina that is such a cool case study yeah I want to while we're here shout out one person in the chat uh Don Lowe Winstonston who shared I hope people take away that innovation is wonderful and OER is fantastic but to plan when your innovation succeeds her case study three building a roller coaster while writing it is one that really goes into what can happen when things just start running and you have to build as you're going along and make it work and how that can be a major issue that a lot of OER program managers run into as she shares this advice is something I call to mind when thinking of how to start an OER program at the institution I've moved to since writing the case study so that's great to hear about anyone else have anything they'd like to share from their contributions and sections I just want to make this audible from the chat uh Judith Sebesta just shared that the open texas conference is coming up and they are looking for proposals and the theme is the labor of open education so if anyone's interested in that she has the link in the chat so we wrote the chapter the case study on using manifold and we were hoping to give a sense of both what kinds of projects could be possible on a platform or on a platform like manifold what kinds of you know teaching and learning can be supported so we went through a lot of case studies but also what kind of work is involved in supporting this kind of project um from a case study uh from a project manager position and what kinds of pitfalls can can get in the way um because I think yeah if you're prepared for them then they won't get in the way of the cool things that you can do yeah thank you for that uh Christina it was really cool seeing the manifold chapter sort of evolve as that it's for it came together it's a great example of all the different things you can do and with one type of tool and that's built out more throughout the section on publishing and supporting the publication of OER so people can think about what does it take to make a textbook and what are the different options available for making that process work so uh I'll shout out a pro here uh an amazing contribution to that uh of course with her experience uh with the textbook program through the rebus community and Stephanie for all of her work really leading the second half of the books uh sections and making that come together I'm hoping that um at least with the chapters that um I've authored on uh project management folks will walk away with some reassurance that you don't need to have all of the answers right away you don't need to have all of the systems and tools figured out right away but um there's a lot of learning as you go with this work and there is a network and community of support um available to you even if you are the only person trying to bolster these efforts on your campus at your organization in your region um there is a lot of work that you can build off of so you'll see Stephanie um and I point to existing resources and templates that you can adapt and sort of reuse as you need um but there's also um information about um listservs that you can tap into or um ways to build a support network to help you reach your strategic goals and help you um get your program um uh to where you want it to be so that's something I hope you'll walk away with you don't need to know everything right now but use this resource use that particular chapter on project management to to learn and build and I'm wondering Abby would you um mine maybe screen sharing just the book and I know you talked about the seven different parts but we can also show folks who are here and who maybe haven't been part of um building or contributing what's covered in each of the parts what the different case studies um what perspectives those case studies shed light on um and how they can even think about you know switching in and looking at Jeff's sections on collecting reporting data or micro sections on uh cross conversions yeah sounds good can you see it right now or is it stuck in the presenting view okay yeah we can see it I never know with google slides if it's just deciding that it's going to take over the whole screen I'll hang around uh in the second lower section over here and if we have someone speak up I'll hop into theirs I guess okay I've been talking so much but I haven't actually talked about the sections that I wrote so I guess I should say something uh so I wrote a few of the chapters in the beginning of the book about sort of getting started learning more about OER and building out your team and getting started with everything on campus and I think one of the takeaways that I feel like I say this every time I present to someone but the biggest takeaway I have uh that I'd like for people to learn from this is that you should never build something from scratch if you can borrow it from somewhere else so if there are existing templates if there are existing examples that you can build off of and learn from then reach out to people and get their help even if that means it's not someone at your institution it could be someone on an OER listserv it could be someone on social media who you're looking up to as an aspirational person in the space it is always nice to at least reach out and see what they can do for you or if they can share something because you never know if maybe they actually have a whole google folder of templates that they can just send on to you and say do with this what you will it would be nice if that were always the case but it is often the case in the open movement because that is what this is all about is sharing things and learning from one another and building up on what came before so as you're thinking about sort of how you can get started with all of this it's good to think about where people have already done the work and I think that's really well seen in Jeff and I's chapter from that we adapt adapted from the spark open education leadership program their open education primer which I also helped write originally so it's a whole full circle sort of deal but this looks into all the different pieces that can be part of an open education program from workshops and review programs grant programs and all the different little pieces that make up your open education work and then looking at who's done this before how did they make it work and what are the best practices I did want to mention Amy Hopper's case study she's not able to be here today she works for open Oregon educational resources she's the director there she has a case study in the data section that's really cool it's kind of an actionable look at what she's done throughout the state of Oregon and the kind of philosophy behind coming up with an estimate per resource she visualizes the kind of data philosophy stuff and quadrants she's really good at that visual aspect of things you'll see the quadrants there and then you'll see exactly where all of the stuff fits into it and it's really neat and she's very honest about it too she's like here's where I think it's messy but it's supposed to be here's where things can be cleaned up here's what depends on each institution here's something that's more of a global idea so it's really it's a neat one so if you look at my chapters absolutely look at Amy's case study because it's a really awesome take well if we're doing shoutouts I definitely want to shout out Marco Cipherley Valencia who is one of the I guess five editors of this resource hopefully Marco will be able to join for a brief portion of this launch but his chapter on supporting only our conversion building familiarity they're all really excellent and maybe Abby as you're scrolling it's worth noting a few what I think are really interesting features not only about this chapter but the book overall we're really trying to tackle things like misconceptions about this work and as Regina was describing bringing to the surface a lot of the behind the scenes labor that goes into a successful program or a successful project so you'll see Marco talking all about whether it's project management and time but the different stages of course conversion work and different ways in which it can happen at an institution I really appreciated the intentionality with which Marco discussed doing this work equitably not only is it a part of this chapter but it was a key part of our conversations as a project team as we were discussing ideas around the book discussing chapters discussing even workflows and processes so that's something I'm hoping you will be able to find not just in this chapter but throughout the book is a calling to reflect also on how you can make your programs your practices your work more equitable. Yeah I co-authored the building familiarity on campus chapter with Marco and the perspective he brings towards doing things very intentionally on a campus are extremely unique not not something that I would be able to present as someone who does system-wide work so I talk about the environmental skin stuff and how to do it but when it comes to like here are the types of people you will encounter on campus here's what kind of message you can bring to them the OER audiences that's Marco and he does an excellent job there of distinguishing groups that you can't generalize them to the whole talk about assemblage theory and all that stuff but what you can do is start customizing your messages towards those people because like both Abby and Apoorva have said it's about the stuff that's already been done and just kind of building on that we've all encountered various types of audiences and people who are either extremely receptive to the idea of OER they're already doing it which is amazing and then you can get them to do even more and even be leaders and those who may completely reject it too if you're very new to this this may suddenly come as a surprise when you hear these kinds of types of responses but Marco's really set up a nice framework here for how to tell your messaging based on who it is that you're talking to yeah this is a lovely chapter and I do want to point out because we didn't say it before now but if you haven't had a chance to delve into the book there are sections that we made sure to include in every single chapter apart from the case studies which included a conclusion sort of wrapping it up recommended resources which are links out to things that we think might be useful for you if you're interested in the topic of that chapter that might be a book it might be a chapter an article it might be a worksheet or a resource that you can utilize in your own program really depends on the chapter and then key takeaways regarding sort of what's been talked about and what are some things that we want to make sure really resonate with you that you can come back to and look at this chapter in a new light after thinking through what's the big picture here so are there any other case study authors in the field or any other lead authors I know Stephanie you haven't said anything yet we've talked about you a lot but I guess I would say that I hope that the book is useful for somebody who's really new to this and feels like they're doing it alone and that they don't need to do it alone this is a lot of what we put into this book was our experiences so that we suffered so you don't have to kind of thing not quite but you know we we did it because we worked on it and we share our experiences with you so that you can learn from what we did and maybe what we we should not have done so I hope that people will really enjoy using this manual well said yeah I will say I appreciate especially the sustaining OER projects chapter that Stephanie put together it really goes into sort of what it takes to make sure things keep moving forward and how you can continue to support not just the funding but also the overarching making sure things keep moving both for use and reuse of materials making them findable making sure that people are still invested in moving forward and I absolutely adore the technical side of things that maybe are not always at the front of my mind but that Stephanie really brought home throughout the book all right but we'll come back to this little book show and tell in a little bit but for now let's head back to our presentation and the next section which is for you the audience what section of the book were you most excited to find so as we've been looking through it as we've been thinking about the chapters and doing a bit of show and tell or even if you've been reading it in the week up till now is there a specific chapter or piece of content or section that you found particularly exciting to think this exists now Judith says collecting and reporting data yeah Jeff did a wonderful job there I'm excited for all of it building a grant program since that's what we're about to try and put together yeah I'll say it's kind of funny in my side of things because the section I was most excited to see completed and out in the world is one that I wrote but it's in the first chapter about OER talking about remix projects and different kinds of remixes that people can do whether it means you're adapting a piece of work or pulling together multiple things into one new thing because it's a question I see a lot coming up on listservs from people that are new to this and I was excited to just finally have a section I could point to and say there it is I don't have to remember how I explained this last time it's in a book so that was very fun for me Pamela shares I'll show it share the manual and OER presentations with faculty librarians working on affordable learning initiatives thank you and Suzanne notes that they are I'm grateful that the book will serve as a framework for discussions if they're moving from a state funded OER grant to more of a funded grant program that they're going to build and Ryer notes that they like the pieces the very practical pieces of the book on hosting or data collection or project management and marketing yes as we were putting together the outline we noticed that there are so many puzzle pieces to this work that don't often get talked about I know Stephanie and I looked at you know the project management for instructional designers book but there wasn't really one for OER project so we reached out to others we know who had done this work so Anita Waltz shared some of her lessons Eileen Thornton asked us to look at some resources as well and I just you know while folks are thinking and dropping more ideas into the chat I just wanted to flag a note that Marco Cephalia Valenti one of the editors of the book has joined so we'll just pause and give Marco a round of applause for their contributions his contributions to the book as well and welcome Marco oh thank you approval that is too kind can you all hear me right now I'm never know if my yes we can hear you you just missed us talking very excitedly about how much we love all your chapters and how like picking a part our favorite things about your collaboration with Jeff and your own other chapter and all the cool things that you brought that we didn't expect anyone to include sadly but there will be recording so you can read watch it afterwards and see how we talk about you when you're not here and I feel like I just lost your audio Marco try talking for us one more time let's try that now can you hear me there you go okay perfect I I'm one of those folks who's resisted the we lost you again Marco post it in the chat we'll read it out for you healthy notes that they are excited about the building the roller coaster well righty get chapter building the plane while flying it a lot of different metaphors would work to describe the experience and I know Jeff you've been having a conversation with Leo about how perhaps given the roles of a lot of us as contributors and authors of the book we tend to be maybe more focused on the regions in which we work which happens to be US and Canada for the most part but we would definitely love perspectives outside of North America because the education systems in different parts of the world are so different do you want to tell us a little more about that discussion well yeah I mean if you're reading this and you're coming from any other place than the United States you might have a very different take on the price of textbooks and things like that for example I went I once presented to folks in Paris about our program and it's a different kind of message there when they're thinking about open education they want to share their culture they want to share their ideas it's it's helpful for them to help people outside of their region but when it comes to textbook affordability it's not really a big thing that stuff is priced differently there it is subsidized in a different way there so what I usually talk about with data didn't really make much sense so I had to kind of shift it in that way so I think contributions from people who are outside of North America would really help in building and improving instructional resources like this for sure I think that was the one thing that at the end of the process I thought oh I wish we'd done this originally which was an open call for case study chapters and an open call for co-authors but then I feel like we'd have a 56 chapter book so pros and cons but definitely there's room for improvement and even more inclusion and whatever comes next yeah maybe volume two we'll see yeah I think after three years working on this book the lead authors especially could could stand to take a short break from book level projects thank you Cara yeah I've been very used to managing projects where other faculty are writing open textbooks and that's really cool but now authoring chapters of it and going through the peer review process and then revising based on peer review recommendations doing the copy editing like that's stuff we do with the University of North Georgia pressed and being on the other side of that is eye opening like this it takes a lot of time oh yep and yeah Leo's talking about the cost of textbooks has become much bigger issue during the pandemic libraries were needed to oh buy access to ebooks and there was a massive increase in need publishers jacked up the prices oh that's an e-book thing yeah the oh boy thank you Leo for mentioning the e-book SOS issue if you want to talk about it on twitter it is hashtag e-book SOS but there's a lot going on with regard to libraries being asked to purchase e-book collections or unlimited user e-books which are often incredibly expensive compared to their traditional textbook counterparts in order to fulfill a class's needs and in some cases not even having the ability to order them it's another aspect of this whole ecosystem we live in it definitely is and you know I'm going to say as Dr. Epa was asking in the chat you can browse through the different sections of the book online you can also download it in a variety of different formats for you to read but I might segue us maybe to the the next section of our hour together and rely on Judith and Amanda to do that so Judith flagged in the chat that you know for her this book is just so validating and it's proof that many of us are grappling with the same challenges and some creative and innovative solutions to meet these challenges that she's seeing a lot of those ideas in the book throughout so if you have questions if you have challenges now's your time to ask it and Amanda asks in the chat Abby how does it feel to have gone from the OER Starter Kit which is an excellent guide that I would recommend to all of you to the workbook that was co-authored with Stacey Katz who is on the call to this larger iteration for a slightly different audience. Posting link for those who don't know about the original Starter Kit but yeah so it's it's been weird in part because of the difference in coordination across the three so when I did the original OER Starter Kit the idea was to put together a very short easy handbook for faculty that need help getting started with OER but don't have someone like me to help them through it and just need like some sort of structure to figure out what they're doing and so I did it a lot on the weekends by myself over the summer whenever I had free time and it also sort of came together no one else knew I was working on it there was no rush and then doing the workbook with Stacey it was a little bit more structured it was working alongside someone else divvying up who's working on which chapters what we're creating what the purpose is of the worksheets and how to create them in a way that's sustainable for sharing over time and then the Starter Kit for program managers is just that times two where all of a sudden I'm editing this book with all these co-authors and coordinating the assignments of chapters to peer reviewers I put together the I taught myself adobe illustrator so I could make the book cover and did a lot of CSS in the back end of the press book to make sure that the colors lined up across all the different exports but in the end it's a really exciting sort of through line to see what it takes to go from being someone who's just casually interested in doing OER work and what you can get out of it through the Starter Kit to partnering with more people and leveraging really the open movement and open call for peer reviewers and call for copy editors you can do something much bigger and more impactful by asking for help who knew so that's really what the takeaway for me has been well if anyone has other questions for Abby for us for any of the case to the authors or others as they're planning to maybe use this book in in different ways feel free to unmute ask away or post your question in the chat yes I highly recommend asking other people questions I feel like I've gotten too much attention today so far are there any chapters sections or advice on preparing an OER program to sustain after a program manager leaves and I might pass that over to Stephanie to give us some initial thoughts well that's an excellent question and I think a lot of that has to do with planning about where we are or where you are in the process how your program is funded whether it's something that's really depending on one person or whether there's an institutional support for it so we didn't really discuss that specifically I don't think in the in the text but we did talk about sustaining a program and we talk about how you can make sure that your program keeps going so I would say you probably want to think about finding somebody to manage your program even if they're once somebody else leaves just because it's an it's not something that's just going to happen by itself it needs somebody to just need some TLC it needs somebody to to monitor and take care of it but I'm open to other suggestions from other folks who've been in that situation I might also suggest looking at the sections of the book that talk about building the program and specifically Abby's chapter on building your team because I think that can then signal to again the many hands involved in sustaining this work rather than it just being an initiative that runs on the expertise and sweat and all the rest of just one person making sure that this is a sustainable program can also mean again ensuring that there are multiple people involved so one person leaving doesn't cause the whole machine to stop and I've also put in a link to a conversation focused more on what happens when your author leaves what happens when your subject matter expert faculty or instructor who's authored a book leaves the institution so the open education network and DRIPP's community will be exploring that conversation a bit more on Thursday so if you're thinking about well maybe I can solve this problem at the smaller scale of a single project and then work backwards to see how some of those strategies and suggestions could be applied program-wide please jump in Paul it looks like you have a comment or a question hi thank you very much I told my friend to work with me for the comments that your book was one of the greatest things I've seen for the year so I'm looking forward to to using it I welcome the idea of a volume two where you rear their contributions from outside North America and I'm hoping that by that time I'll be able to write about the Caribbean story because we're in the area where OER is still either relatively new or relatively unknown and their pockets everywhere I'm hoping to bring that all together to create a kind of an OER Caribbean movement so I do hope that by the time they get around to or maybe anyone some feedback on your toolkit that I can share our story with you and hopefully that will help to inspire other areas other pockets where OER is new or not as as as popular so I thank you for your effort I think it's a really wonderful work I haven't looked at a lot of it but just looking at the contents of it I am I am thrilled I'm very pleased I commend you all for your work and like I said I hope to provide you some positive feedback on how we applied it in in our area thanks again and thank you for inviting us to participate in your launch today thank you that was wonderful Paul and we look forward to seeing whatever you do next wherever it comes out and if we do decide to put together a call for other people I think if I were involved in something like that I would stay at the editor level and not write anything because I do want to make sure that I'm not the only voice doing a lot of this especially if it's focused on elsewhere but it's an exciting possibility oh boy you guys get me excited about projects I could do when I just finished this one but uh any other very glad to hear that yeah no it sounds wonderful is there any other questions about things whether they're in the book if you're not sure things that you read in the book that you have questions about more general questions Carrie's wondering if there are tips for advocating for full-time or dedicated positions either in or outside of libraries and they know it can vary by institution but it's an important piece of sustainability and it sounds like one of the wonderful amandas in the OER world has a collection of job descriptions going already that has been extremely helpful but is there more in the book that could help Carrie sadly I did not get a chance to build this out too much uh Amanda Larson shout out to you feel free to post your google drive in the chat if you want to that's all the job descriptions you've saved over the years uh but we're covered we covered a little bit in the case studies specifically Cheryl's and Regina's when it comes to what it's like being an OER librarian and OER lead how that can be structured in different institutions and then when talking about building your team we talk a little bit about the different structures that can be built around that whether you're a full-time or part-time person and what that looks like I will uh say the OER of Skalcom which is a Skalcom book coming out soonish we'll find out that's for people learning more about scholarly communication topics in libraries published by ACRL I believe will have a section on OER librarianship and the practice related to that again I think that is there are different sections done by Regina me and Amanda Larson so we're all the same people writing about it again but specifically that you have part-time full-time is not dressed I think in the starter kit itself all right so we've only got a few minutes left oh boy as I say that Leo has something to share if you'd like to look in the chat but there's specifically a survey out about institutional policies supporting open education so if you'd like to help Leo with his research please feel free to fill that out for him so the final thing here is how can you get involved moving forward with the book first is by looking at our page in the rebus community following the book talking the discussion boards there's space for you to sort of meet up with other people who are working off of this and thinking about what's missing and what questions they have and talking with other people in the community you can share your thoughts with us using the feedback form and the book's back matter which will send me an email as soon as someone fills something out so if you see a typo if you see a section that's missing a very key component do let me know and we can get those fixed up and spread the word about the book using hashtag OER starter kit PM if you are still on Twitter since we've planned this book launch things have gotten weird over there but still some of you are still on there I know yeah and you'll see on the book home page that we have an active call there to join what we're calling this community of practice different people are going to be using the book or learning from the book or perhaps have ideas to expand and adapt and remix the book in a number of ways that's all part of practicing the ideas of implementing the suggestions that are in the book so we'd love to hear from you we'd love you to be able to connect with one another as well so you can follow along on that project page or use the discussion board and the threads there in whatever ways you think will serve you best so feel free to whether it's share links to studies that you have ongoing or ask questions to help address challenges that you're facing or to just share milestones of accomplishments that you've been proud of as you've been establishing yourself as a program manager and setting up your initiative all right well we've got five minutes left any closing thoughts from any of the authors case study authors or audience members here today I just wanted to say how much I appreciate working with abby and the team on this book abby did a lot of work to keep us going and it's been a really interesting experience and I encourage everybody to consider contributing to our volume two if we have one or volume three whatever that happens to be because the more the merrier and everybody's got their perspective and and your your experience is important to share because we can all learn from it so I'm hoping that everybody will will participate yeah here here thank you to abby for spearheading this particular project on my end special thanks to Elaine Thornton for recommending me to step in as an author and also the fellow copy editors folks who are involved in this book think abby tried to articulate in the first slide there so thank you and I hope that this is useful in some ways and that you reuse and you let us know how you end up implementing and using either sections of of this resource or info all right well thank you everyone for coming today it's been great to sort of talk with you all about our book and where it's going from here potentially a lot of discussions about the future which is great but we appreciate all of your support and potential adoptions in the future for seeing where this book goes next thanks everybody for being here and thanks a lot thanks so much abby for coordinating all of this