 In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness health and entertainment podcast, we answer a lot of fitness and health questions asked by listeners and viewers, just like you. But what we do in the intro of the episode, we talk about current events, we talk about studies, and we have a lot of fun. So I'm going to give you the breakdown of the whole episode. Okay, so we started the podcast by talking about Jelsane Maxwell. This is the woman that was with Epstein. Disgusting human being. The guy that killed himself. Now she got caught. And let's see what she says. Or will she, or will someone suicide her? We'll find out. We'll find out. Then we talk about eBay. Boy, they're under a lot of fire. Let's see what happens there. We talk about Kanye West running for president. Can it get any weirder? Kanye, 2020. Then we talk about the plague breaking out in China. That's all we need. Another one of those. Harvard. Harvard University is going to be all online next year. 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The Apple Podcast winners are Noble Knight 15, T.G. Jane. For Facebook, we have Christian Tovar Vargas and Megan Laudeck. All of you are winners. Send the name I just read to iTunes at mindpumpmedia.com. Include your shirt size and your shipping address, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Hey, so what's the over and under for when Epstein's girlfriend, when they see me sign her? I don't know. Can you bet on that in Vegas? That would be amazing. Hey, did they put her in the same exact place? I read that. I tried to confirm that, and I couldn't confirm it. That might have been fake news. Yeah. So first off, do you remember they found her? They found her in this house that was on 150 acres in, I believe, New Hampshire. It was totally isolated. She had someone buy it for her, essentially. She wasn't even on the paperwork, so she was totally, totally hidden. And the way that they got her is they had agents running through the forest on each side, pulling up. They had helicopters coming in. Wow. Yeah. Just to grab her. What? Yeah, dude. She was in the, she was in the documentary, right? Yeah. So, I mean, I don't get it. Why be in the documentary if you're going to go hide then? No, that was, I think they, No, these clips. Yeah. She wasn't actually like talking in the interview. Oh, so I thought they, I thought they interviewed her and she was in the documentary like that. She wasn't like one of the people that volunteered. No, but as soon as he got caught, she disappeared. She was gone. And apparently, according to the victims or the people who are accusing them of all these crimes or whatever, she's just as bad as Epstein. Like she was involved in all of it, all that stuff. Well, you kind of have to be, right? Right. If you're the assistant for that many years and you, you can't just... That was his right-hand person. Yeah. Oh, boy. And see, and she's already said apparently she's going to sing. Like she's going to start talking. Nothing would make me happier. Yeah, but if she dies again in prison, like, what, what do we... I know. That's the thing is like, are people going to be mad enough to like because this whole thing is crazy to me. You know the flight logs for, so for the listeners who don't know. So Epstein apparently evolved in this wide ring of sex trafficking and pedophilia. Okay. It's disgusting, right? Terrible human being. He had, he owned an island and they, once they caught him everything, they raided this island. This island was essentially a isolated place where he would take very powerful people. Wait a second. It's the island. I thought it was the big New Mexico ranch where all those stuff is going down. It's on the island? He has both. He's got the ranch. That's another one. That's another one. But he also has this island. Oh, I thought the, I thought the big ranch in New Mexico was where all the big dirt was going on. Both. But the island is secluded. He can fly people in. Very powerful people. But you don't realize you can get there by boat. You can also get there by boat. Which is like, okay, so you have all these flight logs that are coming out with all these like big famous people have gone through and whatnot and it's questionable. But nobody's, I mean, you don't have the records of all those boats and yachts that have come through. No. Have you seen the, did you see the artwork and shit that he would have up in the, in the, in this island and the, and then people connected to him? Yeah. The, let me put it this way. If I was going over someone's house and I saw some of this artwork, I would immediately leave and call the police. 100%. Because it's, it's creepy shit. It's like child pornography stuff. Almost. Yeah. Well, they're like bound. They're like, it's like kids like kneeling and they're bound with like straps and whatnot. Who puts that up on their wall? But this place in, in, in this island, it basically was designed specifically, you could tell for this type of stuff. And, you know, these victims would say is when they're there, they couldn't, they felt helpless because they're on an island. Yeah. So, you know, shit would happen and then what do they do? Then where do you go? And the flight logs are crazy, bro. The people who flew to this island repeatedly, Oprah, Will Smith, Madonna, Eminem, Eminem, Bill Clinton flew on. Steven Spielberg. Bill Clinton flew to this island on Epstein's private plane 16 times. Something like that. Oprah? Yeah. Yeah. That Oprah is like untouchable. I know. Dude. I don't know, bro. It feels like this like ring of crazy, this web. It's definitely a center for power, right? However you want to look at it. Maybe some celebrities went there just, you know, to check out what that, but it's still, this is like, this is where everybody congregated. Yeah. Or maybe that's part of the brilliance, right? Is to like throw normal parties that are for all the celebrities. So, you've got all this traffic of basically you've got everybody potentially in on it, but they're really not. They're just throwing big part. And then he has his like dirty files. I don't know, dude, because I don't know. When you connect all of this with what people are saying, you know, the victims are saying, like there's one victim that was saying that she got repeatedly raped by Prince Andrew. And Jill St. Maxwell was the one that was orchestrating it. Well, I've heard lots of stories like for a long time about all this, and it was always conspiracy theory. And actually in that documentary, so I haven't told this on the podcast, but I knew one of those girls went to my high school. So it was like, it even made it even more real to me, like what was going on there. And it's just, it's disgusting. And I don't know, this is one of those things where I'm just like, now I feel like I can't, I can't stop thinking about it. I can't help, you know, this is where my conspiracy stuff starts going. I can't help think that like all the crazy shit that we're going through right now. Connected. Yeah. Like they're like, they're all afraid that they're about to do. Right. Like like their last effort to distract. Like imagine if, if we didn't have what's going on right now with, with all, with all the riots and what's going on in COVID right now. Yeah. If we didn't have that all going on right now, how much attention would be on this? All be centered on it. Every, every news outlet would be talking about this 24 seven, the same way they're talking about COVID and riots. You're talking about some of the most powerful people in politics. In the world. In, in, in Hollywood. In Hollywood, in music. Bill Clinton, okay, on these flight logs, I don't, several of these flights told a secret service not to come. Yep. When does anybody ever do that in that position? Yeah. So he would go by himself. That didn't tell me that's not suspicious as fuck. Right. Especially when that shit's covered. You don't want to watch this. So there's a couple theory, these, now these are the conspiracy theory theories, right? One of them is that he worked for other intelligence agencies in other parts of the world. Yeah. And blackmailing all these. Yes. And he would film these powerful people, you know, doing these terrible things and use it as blackmail. One, and then there's another theory that says it was the Soviet Union that put this together as a way to blackmail powerful people and to have, you know, a bunch of power or whatever, or people who wanted the Soviet Union to come back. I don't know, but I think this whole thing is, is crazy. And I think I'm afraid that when it all comes apart, that people are going to be so shocked. It's definitely like the curtains being pulled back. So all of a sudden now it's like, oh wow, there's real evil shit out there. Yeah. And let me, I mean, here's the thing. Like for people who are like, oh, those people couldn't do those things. Like remember Bill Clinton? I mean, not Bill Clinton, excuse me, Bill Cosby. Yeah. Bill Cosby, like the most liked person in America by far. Yeah. I don't think he ever, nobody ever had a negative thought about the guy. No, no. And he turned out to be a rapist. Yeah. You know, so who knows, dude? And remember, these are all, a lot of these people are actors. Yeah. And I always, I remind myself this because I can even pray to this. Actors are professional liars. They're the best. That is true. When you watch a movie and you see an actor playing someone and you're like, wow, they deserve an award for that. Well, that's, that's incredible lying. So they're very, they're very insulting all actors right now. Well, I, well, I mean, they're doing it for, you know, art or whatever. But I mean, they become somebody else. Yeah. I mean, that's the whole thing. Don't think that they're not masterfully skilled at making you, making themselves likable. You know what I mean? That's exactly what they do. So I'm, I'm like, I'm watching this thing. Like, what is going to happen? Speaking of crazy, did you see the message that Justin sent over about eBay? Oh, so talk, so talk about that a little bit. Dude, this is, this is crazy. Justin sent that over and I, you know, it was in our main thread and I saw, I think it was like a, I don't know, a 10 minute press conference or whatever. And I'm like, oh, should I get it? Yeah, I know. It was a longer video. Oh, but worth watching because it is fucking crazy. eBay literally, okay, like super like covert, like scheme to go harass somebody. So this couple had a blog and they were basically bashing eBay, just their service and this and that. And they, they had got enough traction that it was actually. Hurting sales or whatever. Yeah. Hurting, hurting eBay. And, and eBay is caught on record. Like the, yeah, was it the CEO? Was it the CEO? Yeah, it was executives, but I don't know if it was the CEO. Yeah. I can't remember if it was the CEO or just some of the executives saying that take them down, do whatever it takes. And the shit that they were, That bitch. Bro, they were, they were sending her like, larva and a bloody pig head. A mask of, yeah, a pig head. Just delivering it to the door. Oh, they fake account. They set fake accounts up on Twitter and Instagram and we're messaging them like just making death threats. Everything you could think of. They were, and they had, They were getting like swingers, like to, to, they would like post a party. So you could come, you could come at any time, just knock, you know, you don't have to call ahead or anything like up through the night. It was so sinister that they had like phases of this. Like first it's like scare, harassed or anything. And then eBay was to look like they were trying to help. So they even had a like a plan of action of like reaching out. Help the authorities. Yes. Like fine, you know. Wow. That's disgusting. So they tampered with evidence. It's a, it's going to be huge black eye on eBay. Wow. That's huge. What terrible people. Yes. That's the whole swinger thing sounds like an amazing prank. I know. That's what I thought. I was actually laughing about that one. I was like, oh, wow, that's pretty good. How about I do that to one of you guys? Yeah. They're like, they were here for the gang. Yeah. Yeah. They gave like a strategy of just knock on the door, come on in and say, any hour. Just to see who'd show up. They sent, they sent a porn to the neighbors, but with their names on it. So intentionally sent it over to there. Oh my God. Oh, they just, they went all out. That's dirty. You know, and it reminds me, I don't know if you guys remember the story of Patton Oswald, where he was like making fun of KFC and like their bowl, where you're eating out of a bowl, almost like you're a pig eating slop, you know. And like his whole, his whole bit, he had a couple of bits about KFC, but they got really angry and we're like totally harassing him and doing like creepy weird shit like that. You know, to him. So it's like these corporations, it's crazy. Like I've heard like stories of that, where they pay people to like go, take these people out there to talk shit. Well, at the end of the day, companies and corporations and politicians, it's all people. And do you have bad people? They're emotional and they're doing stupid shit. You got bad people everywhere. So, you know, it's bound at some point, there's some bad people gonna get some powerful positions and start doing some crazy shit. But it's crazy they have all that on record. Oh, they have it. They were quoting and the email. They had, it wasn't like, this isn't speculation. This is like FBI's involved. How come this isn't like huge news everywhere? Let's look at everything that's going on. Oh, yeah, I guess you're right. You know what I'm saying? Like that's exactly, if they have Epstein stuff like this, I feel like it would be everywhere if it wasn't for all the COVID and ride stuff going on. I mean, it's, that's insane to me. I couldn't believe I haven't seen it anywhere else. But I know, I just stumbled across it. I don't even remember where I saw it. And as of the recording, I'm looking at the shares of eBay and they don't seem to be taking a hit. I can only imagine, I guess, if this takes, if they really gain steam on it. Maybe it hasn't spread enough. Yeah. Well, that was, it was, you sent over that, that press conference, that was July 4th. Okay. So that just just happened. Yeah. This isn't like, this is like breaking news type of stuff that, that came out. I hadn't heard anything. I hadn't read any articles on it, but that's, it's, they have everything. It's not like a, maybe this is going to happen. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The evidence is there. Well, so as if, you know, the news can't get any crazier, we have a new potential, new candidate running for president. I saw this. Is this real? Yeah. He announced it. Is Kanye West really running for president? Technically. So he made an announcement that he was going to be running for president. Elon supported him. You see that? Elon retweeted underneath that. I got you, man. Can I just tell you how much I love Elon? I love Elon. If I, I swear we become best friends. We'll hang on with him. Anyway, Kanye, apparently it's real that he's running for president, but he, I don't know if you'll be able to get on all 50 states ballots. It might be too late for that. So. How does that work? Explain that to me. So you can run. How much money do you need to actually pull it off? Oh, well, I mean, I'm sure he has plenty. That's what I mean. I'm just like, I'm trying to understand if he's going to pay front all that himself. I'm sure. Trump did, didn't he? Yeah, he did. That's crazy. So he's got a lot of money. So let's talk about that for a second. So first off, if you want to effectively run, you want to be on all 50 states ballots, right? You don't want people to have a ballot. Now they could write you in, but how many people do that, right? They do like Mickey Mouse and all that. Yeah. So that's going to be tough. But let's just say that, you know, that all whatever that all works out, what do you think the strategy is? Do you think he literally wants to be the president? No, I think I think I think I heard you say this and I agree is that I think that he is. I mean, he's already came out, right? He's he's a big, you know, make America great supporter Trump support. Oh, yeah. He's a MAGA for sure. So, you know, the idea would probably be to split the votes, right? To split the Biden votes. Yeah, they want so much. They want the young vote, right? And everybody knows Kanye, you know, from our generation. Kanye would lower. He definitely would pose a threat for both the young and the black vote. And if the Democrat Party loses even a few percent of that, which is typically Democratic, right? They're dead. They can't lose that at all. They get something like 90 something percent of the black vote. If that just dropped a few percent, they're done. Same thing with the young vote. Almost like he's running on purpose to do that. And then I figure the head of the DNC or whatever, like, what would your wildcard be to kind of counter that? Oh, well, I already told I already said what I thought their only strategy would be, would be to run Michelle Obama. Michelle is his running mate. That would be a tough ticket, but I don't see anything else that could be. Where is that? Because that was a rumor that we heard a while ago. I don't think it's happening. It's so far the people in the running are not heard for VP or whatever. But this Kanye thing is pretty interesting, man. He would, that would totally happen. If he ran, he would not hurt you in cartoon world. First, we have a TV fucking star become president. It never stopped being the reality show from the apprentice to then into the office. I feel even stronger about my prediction of the rock being a president within fucking two decades. 100% dude, the rock is going to be a president. It's such a shit show that that might make sense. That's where this is going. Because so much of this is now, so much of politics is social media. It wasn't that it wasn't it, like nobody. And that was, I mean, you know, that's why Trump won because he mastered that first. They start, Obama started it, right? He was the first to really start to utilize it. But Trump took it to a whole another level. And that's what I think we're going to see now. I really think it's going to be celebrities. Yeah, I was thinking about this a lot. And I do, I do think it is definitely the birth of completely new change of like the way everything is going to be done. Like on all accounts. I think that like, it's interesting to see all these people getting rooted out, you know, that have been doing shady shit. And not like as much like craziness, like I try to find like pockets of hope and happiness and like what's going to be in the future. Like, you know, maybe like us rooting all this out and realizing that it was such a shit show, like how are we going to piece it all together is going to define everything. I tell you what the answer is. The answer is just to reduce, dramatically reduce the power that these, that they have. Then it doesn't matter as much. Right. When they have a ton of power, you know, Kanye being the president, scary. Yeah. He doesn't have that much power. I'm like, whatever. Put it where, you know, that's, I don't care if he runs, if he's the president, because they can't do a lot. You know, I still go back to, we have to, we're going to, I think voting is going to evolve somehow. Somehow we're going to have to change the way it is. To make it too, we make it too easy. I think, and this is coming from someone who probably would fail the test, right? I think that you should have to take a test. You should have to take like a, yes. That would never work out. Why? You should have to take a test before you vote on the person who's running our country. Who gets to design the test? I don't know. I mean, I don't care. All left and right put it together, but it should be like, you should have like, at least a basic understanding of politics, our country, law, economic. Yeah. You should have that. And if you don't, then you don't get to vote. And if you really, really want to put your vote in, do you have to do some study and research? That would never, that would never work. Why? They just wouldn't fly. I mean, I, why not? Because, because both sides would say you're limiting this many people. Right now it's just a popularity contest. It always is. And because it's a popularity contest, you have a bunch of people running out there. You're going to get free lunches. You're going to get whatever we want to give to you. And then all the corporate, you know, you know, like infiltration and kickbacks and all that, like that motivates like actual candidates to even run. It's like, you know, we've got to eliminate all that stuff. Well, again, if, okay, you can't, if you want to eliminate that much money that goes into it, you have to eliminate their power. Because if they have that much power to change, to affect corporations bottom line, then that is a very, very strong incentive to spend a lot of money to get what you want. If that didn't exist, there would, there would be no money that would go into it. And so I, you know, I think at some, hopefully at some point, I doubt this will happen, but I would love at some point for everybody to be like, Hey, we all don't like these people. Why don't we just make them like not that's powerful. That way they can't do shit too much. You know what I mean? Let's just take care of ourselves a little bit and see what happens. And bring that third party up a little higher. Yeah, good luck. Good luck. Come on. Hey, you guys want to hear some more crazy news? Yeah. So the, there's the bubonic plague apparently has busted out in China in an area. Yeah, there was a, there's a, they said that in, I'm going to read this to you. A suspected case of bubonic plague was found in China's Inner Mongolia. Okay. Is this, is this again from fleas from rats? Like it used to be because, okay, I told you about this. I forget what the name of the operation was, but this was like a strategy, I believe. Like it was, it was after everything kind of went down and then like there was going to be a planned attack on the, on the, on the Pacific coast, on the west coast to basically like do like, like add like a bubonic plague, you know, by, by launching, I think it was, it was fleas or it was something that carried it from this, from submarines, they were going to launch it and throw these like, like disease bombs onto the west coast. Which strategy was this? This was from Japan, I believe. Was it really? Yeah. Oh wow, that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I love Justin knows so many of these things. It's totally random, but that just reminded me. Dude, Justin and I, the other night, we were all hanging out, we were staying up late and we were just trading theories, you know, all these crazy, all these stories and stuff. You know where my brain's at. Oh, I love it, I totally love it. Yeah, no, so the plague. Yeah, so they had a little break out of the plague. So the plague's happening again. And they identified a new pig flu in China that could, has potential pandemic properties. What? Yeah. No, get out of the face. We don't need another pandemic in the making. Tony, dude, I'm going to invest in one of those fucking, one of those little underground bunkers, dude. I'm just going to bunker up for the next decade. Just going live in there, start a society, underground people. Shiro Ishii, that was the general that had that idea that was going to drop these like disease bombs with lice. Did you hear, this was during World War II, I'm assuming, or right around the time. Did you hear about the strategy that we had to light their cities on fire where we would attach these incendiary bombs on bats and then let the bats out over these Japanese cities and because bats seek underhangs, like overhangs or whatever, houses, that the bats would go underneath these overhangs of their Japanese houses and then the bombs go off and set everything on fire. Did you hear about this? Wow. This is the special strategy. What? Yeah, this is the next one. Do they just get really high in a room? I mean, it's kind of creative though when you think about it. It's because there's a little bit of brilliance there. I know. Crazy, but brilliant at the same time. It's so funny. So Harvard just came out and said that the whole 2021 year is all at home. Nobody go to school. Whoa. Yeah. Really? Yeah. And then the second piece of news with Harvard is that the tuition will remain $50,000 a year. It's not going to change. So everybody is going to be at remote and Paying full price. You're paying a full price. Wow. Just for the name Harvard. Yes. Wow. So you know, how long do you think it'll last until people are like, I'm not going to pay that much for this? Forget you. Yeah. I feel like they might be OK this coming year, but I feel like if it keeps happening, people are going to say, why am I paying 50 Gs for an online education that I could get for five? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Yeah. I feel like this pressure is going to, because higher education has already been kind of under fire for a little while because the cost has exploded past inflation. I feel like this kind of stuff, this may be the last straw that breaks the camel's back. I'm really interested what schools are doing. I was, my best friend was over. I just got seen. It might actually be what you know. That counts. You know what I mean? Oh, no. I actually have to learn. My best friend's a principal, and so I haven't had a chance to catch up with him until recently for Max's birthday. He came by and I asked him. I said, what are you guys doing with schools? He goes, honestly, bro. He's like, we don't even fucking know. He's like, it changes everything. He goes to the district right next to me. He goes, what they're doing. And he goes, I think this is the smartest move. So some of these schools are thinking about doing this. Where you do 50% of the kids go to school Tuesday, Thursday, and then the other 50% go Monday, Wednesday, and then Friday is at home. So he goes, I think that's the best strategy. That's what my son's school's doing. Is that what they're doing? Is yours too? Oh, okay. So he goes. It's like a hybrid model. Yeah. He says he thinks that's probably the best strategy that he's seen. So now he says his district, he says are claiming they're going all back. He goes, I don't think it's going to happen though. They're saying that. He goes, but I think that when it comes time to start again, they're not going to do it. Well, so I've been reading about the, so something strange is happening right now. You have a explosion of COVID cases, but the death rate continues to, not just the death rate, but the total deaths continues to drop. And they said, well, the deaths need time to catch up, but it's now been like five weeks since things have been reopening and the cases have been spiking. And we still see the case, the deaths drop. What's the average like a time length? Somebody has it and, you know, like has COVID. Oh, you mean until if they're going to die, they're going to die? Well, yeah. Well, I mean, like, until they get over it, like, Oh, I don't know. Yeah. I think it's like a month. A month. Yeah, I don't know. I don't, I don't quote me on that. I'm not, I'm not quite sure, but the, the, the amount of people are die, that are dying daily keeps going down, but cases keep going up. So I read this really good article on that, on why that could be happening. And one is we're testing way more people. That makes sense, right? So now you're testing a lot more people who might have mild symptoms. And the other thing is that the average age of the person being infected right now is much younger than it was. Yeah. So we're not getting all these nursing home people that are getting COVID. Now we're seeing a lot more people in the 30s and 40s. And of course they don't, they don't die nearly the same, right? I heard there's a bunch of shit going on right now in hospitals too, because they get more money if you have COVID patients in your hospital. Yeah, you do. So there's lots of shit going on right now where they're listing patients as COVID when they're... Which naturally, you know, if you get incentivized... Right, money. Yeah. Like there's gonna be like shenanigans out there. Yeah. That's just part of the whole thing. Yeah, but yeah, this article was really, it was written very, very intelligently. And it's true, the average age of the person right now that's testing positive is going down. So of course you're gonna see less deaths. Even if the cases rise, you know, the death rate among I think over 60 is way different than it is if you're under 40. Well, and I think we always speculated this, right? That there's potentially tons of people that have had it and that were just asymptomatic or didn't even have any symptoms at all, right? So I think that they... I think there's a good chance that we're gonna continue to see that go down. What is the percentage at right now? What is the... Do you know what the death rate is at? I don't remember off the top of my head, but I know it's comparable to a... Right now I think it's comparable to a bad flu season. Do you think we'll ever look at it like flu? Or I mean, it's obviously it's gonna be determined once we finally get the vaccine and all that. I think that people might be a bit more at ease. Like, oh yeah, it's COVID season. You know, instead of it being always a fucking pandemic. Yeah, I don't know, maybe, depending on... Because it's still kind of new. So I think looking back, you know, two years from now we might be able to be like, you know, it was worse than we thought or not nearly as bad, you know, as we thought. So... Well, I think it's already... I think we can already safely say that it's worse because just because of what it's doing to the hospitals, right? I mean, just regardless of the death percentage of it and that we may all get it one day and it may be like a flu, the flu has never done... Not in like in the recent decades, right? We haven't had a flu overwhelm hospitals like we are. And I think that's the big argument right now is that regardless of the death rate, we are... People just get really sick. Yeah, people get really sick and we have... You know, the hospitals can't handle that many people coming through. And that's the big... That's one of the biggest fears. So regardless of what side you're on of how scary it is or isn't, I know that's very... It's become very political on, you know, who are you, a non-mask wearer, a mask wearer, bullshit, all that. But at the end of the day, nobody can debate or argue that some of these hospitals, like my other best friend, his wife is a respiratory therapist. So she's right in the thick of it. And they just had... I mean, their whole hospital has now been converted to a COVID hospital. She is like... But then there's a few, right? Like that, like hotspots. But there's a lot, like a Courtney's hospital that has nobody. And they're laying people off. Yeah, exactly. And they're going out of business because nobody's going in. Yeah, because they shut down all the other stuff that they do because they've been mandated or whatever. Yeah, it's tricky. Because like you said, though, there are hotspots where it is. It's overwhelming because it's all centralized in that one location. I think that's why it's causing so much division, right? Because if you're somebody who's coming... Like if you're... Because you don't see it, like... If you're like Courtney's friends from her hospital and they're like, we're getting laid off because there's no work here and there's no COVID patients in here. And then you have the other like literally two hours away up the road. You have my best friend's hospital and it's all... It's a COVID hospital and they're in the thick of it. And so her perspective, it's totally different. So you get these two... Huh? Well, I mean... Differencing opinions. The part about it all that really makes me upset is the way that it's been handled by our quote-unquote our leaders or politicians. Oh, yeah. The worst. It's really bad because it's inconsistent. This is what makes it bad. If you're consistent, then... If you're inconsistent, people start to lose their faith in what you say. And so they're saying, for example, study comes out that shows that... Remember, 22 million people... Yeah, can we just go by the data? 22 million people protested over the... Recently, right? Over the course of... After George Floyd and whatever. So tons and tons of people protesting in some cities. Tens of thousands of people together, walking through the streets, you know, protesting, yelling, screaming, whatever. And they're saying that that caused... That that's not responsible for the spike in COVID cases. Oh, that didn't have anything to do with it. Church singing is. Yeah, right. And then they'll say stuff like that. Or... That is complete horseshit. Yeah, or they'll say, that's fine. It's totally safe, but your... But gyms still have to stay closed. Businesses still have to stay closed. And then the argument is, well, one is essential, one is it? It's all essential. I think protesting is a right that we have and we should never infringe on that, ever. I will fight to the death to defend that. But people's businesses... But he's also... I mean, come on. We live in reality. Like he... That's a group of people in just a different place. Right. And so like in California, they're saying still that they just made it illegal to sing in churches. But if you want to go protest in tens of thousands of people, they have no problem. That actually passed. I believe so. I was kidding. That was... That's for real? Yeah. Oh, shit. That was like just one of those things where they're saying that they don't... No, like church is fine, but you can't sing. Whoa. Yeah, I know. That's bullshit. And to me, it's like... Not that I'm saying we should ban protests. That's not my argument. My argument is, you be consistent. And you're either a free country or not. Tell people the risks. Right. And then allow them to make the choice to risk themselves. That includes yourself. Meaning, if you're afraid of going to places because you're whatever, then don't. That's your choice. And I totally support that. If you want to take risks, go for it. If you're a business and you say, hey, you can't walk in the doors unless you're wearing a mask and I take your temperature, that's also within your rights. It's your business. Right. Because I see people like, this is a free country. I shouldn't have to wear a mask. You're going into a private business. It doesn't count. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're not coming on your property. Yeah, they're coming in your house to tell you to wear a mask. That's when I'll have a problem with it. But you're going to someone else's business. Right. That's totally in line with a free society. But yeah, they're trying to say the reason why there were spikes was because families got together. It wasn't because of protests. Now, finally, to me, as an average person, especially if I owned a business that got totally just... Now, if I owned a gym, I used to own a gym. Okay. If I owned a gym today, I would be so out of business I'd be totally screwed. I would be completely screwed with all of this. I would have lasted a few months, but not this long. And I would be so angry by with people shutting my business down forcibly. Some of these business owners were taken fined and maybe even thrown in jail. And yet you're okay with all this other stuff that's going on. I'd be like, look, be consistent, man, because my business is essential to me. You know what I'm saying? So that's the problem that I have with all this stuff. Hey, were you guys able to total change the subject here? I'm sure Doug will appreciate that. He starts sweating more than he does. It's hot in here. Okay, it's already been long enough talking about this shit. Move along. No, for the fourth... Now, up where you guys were, I left, I left you guys up a truckie to come down to Max's birthday. Did they have... No one does fireworks up there, right? No, no fireworks. I heard some like at night, like there's a few bangs, but it wasn't like... Yeah, they didn't have anywhere. There's no organized fireworks place. They cancel it this year. Everywhere. Normally it's over Lake Tahoe. They normally do it. Totally canceled there. And they canceled the bomber. And it was canceled a lot of places. Did you guys see the video of LA? No. Okay, so all, you know, no fireworks displays at all, not even the ones that normally they would do for the fourth, because they don't want people to come together again because of COVID. So somebody filmed like a broad film over the city and you just see illegal fireworks, bro. Everywhere, dude. It was like a war zone. I heard that at the beach at Santa Cruz. I heard that there was a lot of that along the beach anyways. Like they couldn't control it. Oh, it was crazy in our neighborhood. Oh, so here's my luck, dude. Okay, we have had, you know, we live in the bay, so we have great weather, like 99.7% of the year, literally. I think there's, I believe there's two weeks of the year that's like really hot. Yeah, that's it. Right. And we just, we're having it right now. Fourth of July, kind of weekend tends to be, you know, and the second week of July, we start hitting the high 90s, maybe even get close to 100. And my AC breaks. Did this happen last year? Yeah, it did. Not at the same exact time, but around the same time I had this memory and I was staying at the hotel and stuff like that up in the beach, right? So here, it happens again to me. For people that don't know, Adam, Adam's in the grumpy bear. This is his kryptonite. It's hot. Oh, it is. He hates it. Yeah, I get very, very irritable. I can't sleep at night. I'm just, and so I'm like, what are the chances that this has? So think about this too, okay? So it's super hot. That's hard. Okay, it annoys me, whatever. I can figure something out. But it's also Fourth of July weekend. Now what I have to do, so in every other Fourth of July, because my dogs go crazy when they hear fireworks. They will not stop barking. But when I seal up my house, I turn on the AC and running it. And actually, I run Brain FM and it cancels. So I run Brain FM between where all the windows are and the dogs and they can't hear it. But when the windows are open. Oh, now the booms come in. Oh, now it comes in. So my house this whole weekend, I've had, I've got Brain FM and two different speakers upstairs, downstairs like blasting full-blare. TV is all the way up. I went over and doused my dog, both meals I fed the dogs doused in Ned. Like cover them with this. Like the whole bottle. Oh, bro, I had to, all the stops, all the stops to get them to calm down. And I actually, so I had forgot about using the Ned at first and we were at Katrina's family's house for Fourth of July and Max's birthday. And it was like six o'clock and I was so consumed with his birthday that I actually wasn't even thinking about Fourth of July. And then my dad comes down and goes, Oh, I brought some fireworks. I was like, Oh, shit. So I had to drive back home to go do all this stuff because I had left them in the house like that, not thinking about it. Now, how effective is it for them when you give them Ned? It is, it's really effective. So what do you notice in them? They're just way. They calm down. Yeah, it's not enough to, it's not a sedative enough, like giving them like a, you know, like a, you know, Norco type because they make like dogs, you know, like a Benzo. Yeah, exactly. Benzo. So they make, they make that for dogs. And that's like a really heavy sedative, but I'm always like cautious about giving them shit like that. Well, it's interesting because I, I've been to the pet store and I've seen a lot of brands popping up with pet food with CBD. Tons now. But it's like, okay, what's the quality of the CBD, you know, that they're actually putting in it, you know, so it makes, it does make a ton more sense actually giving the concentrated source. That's how I feel in their food. Because I'm like, okay, this CBD, we've talked about this already, right? CBD has gone bananas. It's in everything. Hair, hair products now, shampoo, soaps, like everything. I mean, everybody and their mother are just throwing soap, CBD in it, because everyone's, all the benefits are coming out. And are they really putting CBD? Well, right. And what's, is the dose efficacious? Well, and when you know that, like good, good full spectrum, hemp oil like that isn't cheap. If it's really, really good, if it's quality sourced, it's been tested, it's been third party tested. I tell you what, if you use CBD, try full spectrum hemp oil extract, like a good quality one. Yeah. It's a huge difference. Yeah. There's no comparison whatsoever. You have other cannabinoids in there. You have the terpenes in there. And it's third party tested, so it has what it says it has. You feel it. It's not like, you know, your normal CBD. Yeah, you feel a little bit. This, you actually feel. What? And again, my dogs are eight and six, right? So I've had them for a long time, well before we were sponsored by Ned, and I had never even thought about this. And because I've taken them everywhere, had 4th of July, of course, multiple times, I know how crazy they can get. And so to see the difference in their behavior is enough for me. Like I see that how much more calm they are. It doesn't, again, it doesn't sedate them and put them out, and they still will bark, but they'll get so much anxiety from the fireworks that they're like, panting, like all freaked out and anxious the entire time, where it eliminates that. I still get a bark if they hear something, but it eliminates the anxiety that they have. My dog, yeah, my other dog, I used to have like, he used to get real freaked out about that and would like have accidents, you know, because he'd just be shaking because of the noise and would pee. In the meantime, in the middle of the night, it was like all this thunder and lightning and everything jumped on the bed and was like, like on top of me and started peeing on me. It was the worst to wake up to a dog. Are you serious? Just taking a leak right on top of you. I totally just remember that right now. Have you ever shared that? I don't know. It's like, these things just come, you know, come back when, you know, certain things get talked about, but yeah, I remember that distinct of Arlo. Arlo was, who was it? Arlo, who was it? Oh, it was Remy. Oh, Remy. Oh, my dog before Arlo. Oh, my God. Oh, wow. Dude, you want to talk about anxiety? So when you left Adam, we were, you know, Adam, I mean, excuse me, Justin, Doug, and I were still up a truckie, and we were using the barbecue like crazy, you know, grilling up food. So one night, one night, Doug, he had mirrored, by the way, Doug's short rib recipe. Have you tried it? Oh, no. It's delicious. I was so bummed that I- You missed out on this, Doug. Doug's like the best cook out of all of us, and you guys planned his day. Next time Doug cooks first. Dude, his- Yeah, yeah, right? Okay, my kid, my son ate probably three pounds worth of short ribs. Yeah. I mean, all of us. So good, but anyway, he marinates them, so we put them all on the grill, and of course, the marinade's got some, probably some olive oil or some oil in there or something like that, and you know, short ribs are pretty fatty. So we did that- Drippin' and drippin'. Drippin' on the bottom, the pan of the barbecue, right? And then we've already been barbecuing on that thing. Yeah, all week. All week, all week. The next day is, or two days later, whatever, it's the fourth, and we're like, let's do a bunch of burgers. Let's just, you know, it's Fourth of July, burgers and hot dogs, have a good time. So we buy, you know, 80% ground beef, nice and fatty, you know, ground patties or whatever, put them on the grill, close the thing, and Justin and I start playing cornhole. And I'm watching the bar- Thank God I was outside, watching the barbecue, and I'm seeing like- Some thick smoke. Yeah, like what's going on over there? Open the thing, dude, and it's a fire. Full on grease fire. It's a fire, dude. And you shut the propane off. So first thing I do is I pull it away from the house because that would suck. Good awareness. Yeah, pull it away from the house, and then I turn off the propane, and I've had this happen before, where you turn off the propane, let it burn out for a second, and it's okay. Nah, man, it kept getting bigger. We were close to needing the fire extension. Yeah, so I grabbed the salt, and we're like throwing salt on it, trying to get that thing down. I go for two days, you guys almost burned the house down. Jesus Christ, man. Yeah, so I had to take, I'm taking the burgers off because they keep dripping fat. You had like 20 burgers on there. Yeah, so I'm like sitting like my hand has no hair left. And of course it's Sal's cooking day, right? I don't know, man. It's one way to get out of your night, right? I don't know, guys, last time I almost burned the house down. You guys remember when you put me in charge of this? Remember when I burned everything down? Anyway, we dumped salt all over it, and I had to clean it. I scrubbed it all down. We cleaned up your mess. Yeah, now we're safe. Hey, you guys got, so one of the nights, I was playing cards with, the night I was playing cards with Katrina, I think we talked about this. Oh, is that when she crushed you? Yeah, yes, bring it up again. She totally beat you. She barely beat me. Good job, Katrina. You guys were watching Unsolved Mysteries, and I didn't feel like you really sold it, like it was that great. And then I was like, the other night I didn't have anything to watch. I'm like, let's just try and see it. Oh my God, I got sucked in. Oh, it's amazing. That's good. Oh, it's really good. No, you know why we were a little disappointed? Because the original. Didn't have a narrator. Yeah, the original Unsolved Mysteries had that dude that we narrate, and he wasn't in this one. Yeah. Yeah, he's not in them or whatever. That was just for nostalgia, because we loved the show growing up, and it had all those crazy stories back then even. And to see them continue it, it's great. I'm a huge fan. Now remind me, because I remember, because I watched it a lot when I was a kid, the old ones, didn't they actually, they would share when some of the stories get broke, right? Yes. One of the coolest parts about the show is that a lot of these Unsolved Mysteries get solved. Because all the eyes watching. Right. Now, which ones are your favorite? Do you like the murder ones, the disappearing ones, or do you like the weird ones, like the alien and the, that's me. No, on the opposite. I like the ones that are like supernatural. You know, and then like everybody starts to have their own accounts. And, but it is like, again, it's out there. That show used to, I was a young kid when it came out, used to terrify the hell out of me. I'd watch it and right before bed, because I loved that feeling, but then I wouldn't sleep and I still did it anyway. So what, I think what happens is that music, the intro music, has now been hardwired into my brain for fear, just the song. So when we watched it and we were sitting in front of the TV, I'm a 41 year old man, right? Okay, goosebumps. Just the music went on. I got this wave of like goose bumps and fear. I'm like, what the hell? Like this has been hardwired into me. But yeah, we watched the UFO one first. I haven't even watched that one. See, I like the murder and missing. Yeah, the very first episode is pretty powerful. Yeah, that'll suck you in. I did. Pretty crazy. Dude, I got a DM from somebody, I want to bring this up on the show, that they've been using a lot of brand shaming of acids and that they've been feeling kind of down and they wanted to know if it was the brand shaming of acids. That was doing that. It could be. It very well could be. You shared this before. I have and I want to share it again. If you're eating a lot of protein, first of all, supplementing with brand shaming of acids will waste the time because you're getting plenty in your protein. But if you're eating a lot of protein and you're taking a lot of brand shaming of acids, the BCAAs could be competing with the production of certain amino acids that will make serotonin. So in animal studies, when they give them high doses of BCAAs, they notice depression-like symptoms and because serotonin plays a role in regulating appetite, these animals will actually eat more food to try to- Interesting. Yes. So supplementing with BCAAs, unless your protein intake is low, probably it's not only a waste of money, but if you take a lot of them, might not be good for you. First question is from Rosie Faith. Can you explain the difference between a good morning and a Romanian deadlift? I understand the weights are in different positions, but you're basically working the same muscles, right? Are they interchangeable? You know, when I was younger, I would look at certain exercises, and I'm talking like, you know, early 20s. I'd already been working out for a while. I'd been a trainer. I'd look at certain exercises that were different, but looked so similar that I used to think to myself, they are interchangeable, you know, like incline dumbbell press, incline barbell press. Same movement, same major muscle groups. Why would I waste time doing this other exercise? These aren't as close as you think. And they're not even as close as they are. Yeah, as I say, these aren't as close as you think they are. I mean, first of all, when it's loaded on your back for a good morning, the bar path is completely different. So the bar path on a Romanian deadlift is similar to any other deadlift where it's close to your shins and close to your body, where this is extended on a lever. So that's different. You can load the back a lot, like you can almost hinging, but that's about as close as you can. Right, right. So obviously, there's a lot of muscles that are involved, but they're definitely different. They are, and even exercises like I just mentioned, incline barbell press and incline dumbbell press, the slight differences actually make a decent difference in your muscle development and strength and all that stuff because your body has to fire differently. It has to stabilize differently. Even when the exercise, I mean, I could go from a closer grip incline to a wider grip and literally the difference could be four inches, three inches. And it's going to be a very, it's going to be a different feeling exercise. I'll give you an example and people will get this because you only really understand this when you've been working out a long time, so I'll use something else as an example. So we all walk all the time, right? So you're used to walking, you know what that feels like. Put on high heels. You're still walking, especially if you're a man, you've never done this before. If you walk and heal. You've seen those videos. Yeah, those are fun. Now, you're still walking. Interesting that he picks this analogy. I know, I know. It's like, trust me, the first time I did this. Oh my God, have you ever done this? Yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean? Totally, if you throw a dress on it. That's why my calves are tight. But if you wear a shoe with a high heel on it and walk, you'll notice the same walking. You're still taking strides, whatever. Slight difference. You're talking about inches and it's going to be totally different in the way it feels on your body. Romanian deadlifts and good mornings. Yes, they're hip-hinging. Yes, the prime movers are the same. Totally different feel. Good morning. You're stabilizing the upper back. It's loaded a little lower on your upper back than a squat. You have to maintain. You have to really maintain strong upper back posture as you do this. You can load it more. Romanian deadlifts. You have to hold onto the weight with Romanian deadlift. You have a little bit more activation of the mid-back because you're holding on with your hands. Different bar path. They both feel totally different. Both valuable for different aspects. That's the thing. You want to bank those types of exercises that are similar but provide a different stimulus so that way you're not constantly always doing the same thing and that way you can stay ahead of that plateau. And like we always talk about, whichever one that you gravitate most to introduce the other one. If you're somebody who loves good mornings but you're like, oh, I do good mornings, there's no sense for me to do Romanian deadlifts. Actually, you should. Vice versa. If you are somebody who always does Romanian deadlifts and you don't hardly ever do good mornings and introduce good mornings, both have their own value. Now that being said, I don't think for most people it's a good idea to do both in the same workout. They're close enough for that. Yeah, it might be overkill. And especially because you need to be really, with either Romanian deadlift or good morning, you have to have really, really good. You need real concentrated attention. Yeah, you have to good, incredibly good low back stability. If you start to break form, especially if you're loaded heavy, these exercises can be pretty nasty on the low back. If your form is good, you're safe. I also think too, you're loading like good mornings, I can do way more than Romanian deadlift. A Romanian deadlift where you're keeping tension on it the entire time and you're having to hold on to that, even with wrist straps, you're holding on to 200 or so pounds. But I could put good mornings on there. I can go 300 pounds and do a good morning. So they're definitely different with loading, too. Next question is from Nick Zenes. What's a good way to program farmers carries into your workout? What are the perks of going heavier versus walking farther? Yeah, we're getting questions like this because everybody's, a lot of people are enrolling to do some strong training. Everybody's enrolling in MAP Strong because that's the program that's on sale. And so in that program, we programmed farmer walks because, well, Robert Oberst really liked them, said they're really important. And now that I've done them regularly, I 100% agree, regardless of what your fitness goals are, heavy farmer walks have tremendous benefits for the entire body. It's one of the best exercises. I literally will put it in the top 10 now of exercises that I've done, that I've really worked the whole body, built strength, built muscle, and have improved my squats and my deadlifts and all that other stuff. But how do you program it? A lot of people have this question because it kind of works everything. Yeah. Where do I put it? Now, if you follow a MAPS program, we program it in four. You don't have to worry about it. Or if you follow a full body workout, really doesn't matter because you're working your whole body anyway. In which case, I would suggest doing farmer workouts after legs and maybe at the beginning of your back workout. But what if you do a body part split? Where would you put a farmer walk? Two places I can think of that it would make sense. Either back day or leg day. I think those are the two days that I think farmer walks would be programmed on a split. I don't know, what do you guys think? Yeah, I like that. I also like it as a way to start my workout too. I mean, we talked about this the other day. This was one of the exercises that we... Yeah, I mean, that was one of the things that I was... I originally, I didn't think it was a good idea because I thought, oh, it's going to exhaust me before I go do legs or I go do chest or go do some of the exercise. But because it's one of the single exercises that I can think of that literally wakes up your entire body, from your neck all the way down to your toes, I love to start it with a workout. I'll do two or three nice heavy carries. And then when I go into any other exercise after that, I feel like I'm so primed. And it reinforces good posture. Right. So, yeah, it stacks your spine, it gets all the joints awake and alive. And so I do like it as a primer. And like you said before that, I thought it might exhaust me. But I've actually used this a few times before going into my compound lifts and loved it. But I also like using farmer walks for building volume. So we do this whole like these work sessions within MAP Strong. And that's really to build up this tank, this motor, this ability to carry heavy things for longer amounts of time. And I just find that so valuable when you're going back into heavy lifting in your workouts, it's like you have that endurance for all those lifts. So now I can get through those lifts more effectively because I just have this bigger tank. Oh, dude, one of the biggest benefits I got from MAP Strong was my recovery ability went through the roof because it builds your ability to handle more and more volume and workload. So then I would go back to another MAPs program and like my body was recovering so fast and it realized it was because Strong helped build that up. Now, the last part he's asking about the perks of going heavier versus further. Is there a recommendation that you guys have with it? Like do you prefer to go heavier or go further? So, yeah, it depends kind of like what I'm doing. But like if it's for building volume, I like to go a bit lighter and then for a further distance. And so that's something that I actually prefer to do it that way. I know like in the Strongman training, they do a lot of like sprints with it with like heavier loads and they kind of run with it, which has value in itself for that kind of more explosive type of strength. But for me personally, I do the longer distance. So I've used it as a strength building exercise where I go heavy and I'll go 50 yards, which is relatively short distance to carry away. And I've gotten up to 450 something pounds for that distance, no wrist straps, just my hands. And it feels like a strength exercise, like a deadlift. Like it builds my body like a deadlift would. So we're all kind of a little bit different. So I like in here because we have, it's our place and I can take my shoes off. I love to get barefoot in them and actually walk like really controlled. So I'm doing it moderately heavy. I'm not going like the heaviest I can. I would do that with sneakers and kind of moving relatively fast to the 50 yards in back like what Sal's talking about. But because I'm using it more like a primer to wake everything up, I like to get my shoes off, get barefoot, pull and like really think about my posture and like every step I take. So I'll go for a shorter distance, but I'll move slower and really think about my entire body. The way I'm holding my shoulders, where my neck is positioned each foot and as my foot's kind of striking the ground and kind of gripping the floor with my feet, to me that I love that. I think for most people that what you just said, Adam, is probably the most valuable way to do a farmer walk. I think if you're advanced, high level, you want to build maximal strength, you've already got good support, you've got good stability, been working out for a while, then you can have fun with seeing, you know, how heavy you can go for distance and in which case then it becomes, like I said, a strength and building exercise. But most people would benefit from farmer carries, from doing it with the intent of being perfect, perfect with their form and their technique. Next question is from Fit Within. Do you see any value in experimenting with different popular diets, purely to gain knowledge and personal experience? How would you go about doing this? Oh, just extremely valuable. Yeah, totally. This is the best way to do it. If you want to learn, here's the thing that is really crazy. We, most people, have no idea. They're just so unaware of how food really affects them, partially because they eat the same stuff all the time. So it's hard to know until you cut things out and replace them and then you become all of a sudden more aware, like, whoa, you know, removing that and replacing with this, I feel so different. Or in my workouts, I have so much more stamina or I have so much less stamina or my sleep is better or wow, my gas or my acid reflux now is fixed or whatever. You have no idea until you have a bit of a contrast, you know what I'm saying? And doing this helps you do that. So for example, going keto, which is very, very low or no carbohydrates and high fat, it showed me that I just don't need as many carbohydrates as I think. I had great, I was okay, I felt good. And what I notice on keto that's distinct is I'm sharper mentally. I also noticed that I do have less stamina. Carbohydrates do provide me with more stamina when I'm working out. And so these are things you can notice with yourself by going through these diets. Now, the other part I want to say is you got to do it for a little while though. You don't just go keto or vegan or paleo or whatever for a few days. You got to give yourself a couple months of doing something before you really solidify what you're understanding about your body. So I used to do this without telling them that they're doing it, right? Oh, with your clients, you mean? Yeah, so this was like a, I love to weave in and out of all the different, quote unquote diets. But I wouldn't tell a client that. I wouldn't be like, oh, we're going vegan now, or oh, we're going keto now, or we're going paleo now. I would just adjust their food. And I would run a much higher protein or a much higher fat diet for a while. And then we would reduce meats. And then all of a sudden it would be mostly veg. And so I would do that. And then I'd be asking them to report back to me and be like, how are you feeling? What do you notice? And then try and make them aware of that versus, I mean, God, this weekend I was with my niece and her boyfriend were at Max's birthday. And she's like, oh, man, she goes, have you seen Game Changers yet? Oh, no. Right, right. So she tells me that they're going to go vegan right now. And I go, why don't you guys call me before you just all of a sudden go grocery shopping and decide because you watched one documentary that you're going to change? I was like, first of all, I said, I know you're eating because I've coached her before. I know you're eating habits. I know what you love to eat. You absolutely love meats in your diet. So why would you completely eliminate it? Now, I'm totally for you eliminating some of the things that you probably don't need in there as regular as you probably were eating before, like the bacons every morning and butters and if you're eating red meat all the time, why don't you go to reduce down to chicken and fish and see how you feel? And then go run a vegan-ish type of diet but allow chicken. Because she's not doing it for animal rights. Like I said, if you're doing it for those reasons, she's like, I don't give a shit about that. I'm like, OK, if you don't give a shit about that, you enjoy meat. Why would you all of a sudden go from somebody who eats it all the time to completely eliminate it? Why don't you eliminate the ones that you think are potential offenders in your diet and eat like maybe leaner cuts or less frequently eat it and pay attention to how you feel and run maybe a higher vet. You're not getting enough vegetables and greens. Maybe go that direction and look at it more like that versus going like eating one way and saying, oh, I watched this documentary, now I'm going to eat the complete other way and not really paying attention to what is your body telling you when you eat these foods and when you don't eat these foods. Yeah, it's a really, really good way to become aware of how foods affect your body, of how your current diet was affecting you because, again, most people just have no idea and so when they make some changes, all of a sudden things become more apparent to them. I love this. I absolutely love this. And here's another reason why I love it because for whatever reason, I know why, OK, our diets are much more to us than just food. I know that's, you know, if you break it down, it's just food but really it's much more than that, right? Food, this is why when you talk about diets with people, it gets almost like you're talking about politics or religion. In the fitness space, if you want to get into, like, you know, right now we're in election season and you say anything that's politically motivated or any type of political comment, you're going to get fire for one side and it gets all crazy and so people are like, I don't even want to talk politics. Sometimes you get this religion. In the fitness space, you do this with nutrition. You talk to fitness people, you start talking diet. I swear to God, you will get into fights and arguments with them as if you were talking to, you know. There's no one size fits all. Yes. And this is the message that people forget all the time because in their world, this works so well and it just gets promoted, you know, and this is what you hear from your relatives, is what you hear on the news. You hear on like a documentary that's trying to, you know, really pull people in their direction and this is all monetarily driven. They have a reason why they're doing that. They're marketing it to you like that because they want you to buy certain products. They want you to buy their method, their book, their plan, whatever it is. It is totally a good idea for you to go through these yourself and educate yourself. And this is my experience with fasting, you know, which is another sort of a method on its own, which just helped me to understand my own habits and look more from an outside perspective of why I'm so needy at certain times of the day for nutrients or, you know, what my patterns tend to be with, I go here because I just get this thing and it's, and it makes me feel this thing. Like I feel great, like having coffee and having this muffin or whatever it was. And I can eliminate that. And I can feel even better by doing this instead. And so I just think that, you know, putting the ball back in your own court and really understanding it yourself is everything. That's what I mean. You literally break, that's because nutrition, our food is such a big part of us that you learn to break the chains to this, you know, to your food. And I don't mean break the chains like you're never going to eat again. I mean, again, people treat it like it's a religion or like it's politics. And going from one diet to another with, by the way, this has to be with healthy intent. And if you're going from diet to diet, which one's going to make me lose the most weight and become obsessed about it, this can also become, you know, an eating disorder. But if you do it with the intent of really listening to your body, see how you feel, you'll break those chains, you won't get stuck in that, that nutritional, you know, zealotry that a lot of us get stuck in. And you'll feel flexible. You'll feel like, okay, well, you know, I got this presentation to make and I noticed when I eat keto, I'm a little sharper mentally. Or, you know, I'm going to go kayaking with my friends. I notice when I eat a little higher carbohydrate, you know what's best for whatever situation. Or I'm feeling down or my digestion is off. I know how to adjust my nutrition accordingly. Because again, we're so tight, it's so funny. Like when I talk to my parents about nutrition, just give an example of how tied people are to their food. If I even make the recommendation, if I even hint that they should probably reduce or cut pasta out of their diet, just for, just see what happens. You know, I tell them, just, yeah, just cut pasta. You remember my parents are Italian immigrants. When I say cut pasta out, just to see how you feel. It's like cut off a leg. It's almost like I said, hey, listen, why don't you like kill one of your children just to see what it feels like? That's the response I get, right? It's because we're so tied to our food. Moving from one to another in this way, it helps you, it helps you break that. Well, not only that, I, you know, this is what I was telling my niece too, is like, the likelihood that you and your boyfriend are supposed to be eating the exact same thing is so unlikely. Yeah, yeah. You know, so consider that too, because so many people do these diets and then they put the whole family on it or the spouse or whatever has to do with them. Have you seen people put their pets on vegan diets? Like cats and dogs? They die. It's like, it's like maybe this whatever diet you, maybe you've found one that works really well for it. But to think that because it works well for you, that it's also going to work well for your partner is ridiculous. That's how individual all of us are and how unique it is. So instead of attaching yourself to, you know, the religion of the diet, you know, try to unpack what is it about this diet that is making you feel so good and what was it about what you were doing before that was making you feel so bad and maybe it's, and not maybe, for sure, it's a few things. It's a piece of something. Yes, it's, there's a few things that you probably eliminated when you followed this new diet X, you know, that is making you feel so good and be where it's less about, oh, being so regiment about this diet, these diet rules and it's more about, oh, wow, when I cut out having, you know, butter and bacon, I do feel 10 times better. Okay, so you don't need to go full vegan, just cut out the butter and the bacon and eat normal. Or when you notice when you eat red meat two times a day, every single day, you feel terrible. So rotate your meat, maybe have some fish and some chicken and some turkey and some other things in there instead. So look at those things when you follow these diets, a made up thing. It's completely made up. Yeah, I know, it was just food before. Right. Yeah, and I'll end on this part with this. Within reason, I know we're saying try a bunch of different diets. That doesn't mean try every. Yeah, the cabbage diet, the pizza diet. There's a lot of crazy shit out there, so. You could skip those. Yeah, use a little common sense. Next question is from Taylor Baca. What's the hardest thing about being a dad? Oh, Adam, you're the newest dad. You're the newest dad in the room. What's the hardest thing so far? You know, I guess I sound like an asshole if I say that there's nothing really hard. There's like little things, right? And I think the hardest, if I were to label it, or the thing that comes to mind is probably the difference that you have with your partner who's raising them. And all the little subtleties, like I'll give you an example. Two that come to mind that I've shared. One of my shared the crawling story, I believe, on the podcast that I shared on the podcast. Yeah, you did. Right, so that was. Where you're a little bit like let him struggle more. Yes, yes, rescue him. Right, and there's another thing recently that's came up that he's starting to walk around. He's not walking, but he wants to walk all the time. So he's grabbing people's hands, and that's all he wants you to do is walk them everywhere. And I'm actually really adamant about not wearing shoes. I want them barefoot. I want them barefoot all the time. I don't care if he's walking over dirt and rocks and everything like that. Like I think that's really good for him to start to adapt that way. And then we can put shoes on him later on when it's like we're going. Like I'm not talking about when we're going public places in a grocery store. I'm talking about when we're in front of our house or her brother-in-law's house or somebody's. Yeah, you're not walking through the tenderloin in San Francisco barefoot. Yes, yeah. But, you know, in our, in our, in our round our house and things like that, I like that. And she's like, no, he's going to hurt himself. He can step on glass or he can cut his foot. And so this last, for his birthday, his sister has like, you know, they have kind of an older house. And you guys remember. But who's sister? Katrina's. Yeah, her sister and brother. I think you've been out there. Have you guys been out to that house yet? No. In San Martín? No. Okay. So anyways, they have like an older house and the driveway is like, definitely like older asphalt, you know, where there's like, it's not flat and smooth. It's like rocks all over. Chunky. Yeah. Chunky like that. And I had him barefoot and he walks the best. And now my theory on this is that you have so many nerve endings in your feet. This kid, up until this point, has only felt grass or carpet. And all of a sudden he gets on this. And I could see his like, his toes and gripping the floor. All of a sudden he's walking weight. Like he's, his balance is way more stable. Now it's scarier because he's unstable, right? So you know, she's like, you got to get shoes on him. And I'm like, no, like this is great for him right now. It's waking up all those nerve endings that he's, he's unaware of right now. And his brain is developing. Yes. And it's, and it's speeding that process up. And so we get into this little bit of a tiff over it. And then I, you know, I find myself getting fresher because I feel like this is kind of like my field. It's like, this is kind of what I'm like, the my specialty. Let me have him. Let me have him here. And she's like, no, I don't want him to fall and get hurt. You know, and I want, I don't want to cut his foot and then with the rush into the hospital type of deal. So I find, and it obviously it wasn't even a big deal for us. So we, we moved on, but it was enough for her to like to throw a jab at me and be like, hey, whatever, you know, type of deal. And there were a couple of moments like that where there's just a difference of opinion on how something should be done. That's about the only thing. I mean, of course, like, tired nights and we don't get to have our date nights like we used to and like the selfish side, but honestly, that's not hard for me because I waited till I was almost 40. So I'm over selfish Adam. So I'm not having a hard time with that. I was ready for all that, which I believe if I was 25, that would be really hard for me. The hardest thing I'd say is just that is that, you know, Katrina was raised a certain way. I was raised a certain way. We both have certain things that we probably feel strongly. And I'm sure you guys have stories to relate to this. I could echo, you know, again, it's very similar to my household is very similar to that. But I think for me, I don't want to always be captain, no fun. And really it amounts to like, there's there's ice cream trips. There's these things that like happen when I'm out of town and all these things. And it's like, I struggle with that because I guess like, I'm trying to create opportunities for fun that don't involve, you know, high sugar outlet things or like, you know, way too much like electronic stimulus. And, you know, these are these are the types of things because I pay attention to the behaviors that result, you know, from all of that, that crazy input. And so I try and balance to the point where, you know, I don't want like the rebellion to happen as a result of dad always throwing the hammer down, that, you know, this isn't going to be the case. But in Courtney supports me and she she supports, you know, a lot of those those moments where I do have to kind of remove things that I I can see patterns kind of as a result of, you know, of these things, of these these entertainment things that they get into, like, especially with electronics and it's a constant battle. But I, I guess the hard part is just to keep steering and guiding and directing, you know, like what my kids are getting exposed to, what their habits are, like what kind of friends they're around, like all these things. I'm like, I'm just constantly thinking about how this is going to affect their development and how, you know, good humans are going to be as a result, you know, around other people. And so it's not that it's hard. It's just that it's it's something that's always top of mind. And I'm also very, very much like stressed out about everybody's safety, well-being, you know, being, you know, trying to provide and whatnot. So that that, I mean, that's all part of the job. You know, this is all this is what a dad is. So I own it. You know, I told I, I, you know, talk to my mom about that one. My kids were really young about that, like the worry and stuff. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, like I didn't realize how invulnerable I was before. Yes. I had no vulnerabilities. I thought I did, but I really didn't. Now that I have kids, it's like, now you really worry. And my mom smiles and she's like, that never, now it'll never end. She goes, you think because you're grown up and you have your own family that don't worry about you all the time. She's like, that'll never go away. And I was like, Holy shit. That's a, I think you guys both make really good points because I think a big struggle and I had my kids younger. So I kind of went through this. I think if you think you're going to have kids and be in life's going to be like it was before, it's going to suck. Right. You have to expect and accept that things are going to be very different. And then you're going to be okay because if you're the guy that like you like to go hang out with your buddies and you and your wife or your girlfriend love to have all these date nights and all this freedom. Then you think, yeah, when we have a kid, we'll get back to that old stuff before. You're going to be at odds with reality because the reality is it's just not. And then you're going to hate life because you're not expecting, accepting that it's always going to be different. So I remember going through that, you know, as a younger dad, I think right now, there's a lot of things that are tough about being a parent. That's why I think there's nothing that'll make you grow. I don't want to say nothing, but there's very few things that'll make you grow as much personally as being a parent because it's so damn anything that's really challenging does that to you. And I could list a bunch of stuff that's really hard. It's really hard to like be human, you know, like not be perfect because then you second, if I lose my temper and I'm on my own or I'm with you guys, oh, I lost my temper and I acted stupid, not a big deal. You do that to your kids, you end up thinking about it for weeks, you know, like, what have you know, what have I, what have I imprints on them? Yeah, like, what did I say? What did I do? Oh, my gosh, I acted like such an asshole. What a terrible example I am or I heard, you know, what am I doing? That's really hard. The worry is really hard. You know, you have to learn how to get over that because I could literally sit here right now. You know, let's say your kids are at school and you can think about all the different things that could happen at school. That's really tough too. The worry is really tough. But right now, you know what I'm finding is in this, I'm sure this was tough for my parents too and their parents. It's really tough to do the right thing when the right thing is different than what everybody else in society is saying is the right thing. You know, to do the opposite of what everybody else says is okay and good. It's really, really hard because you're battling, you're at war with all the other influences that they have. And this gets hard as they get older. When they're real young, it's just you. So they don't know any better. But as soon as they go to school, they have friends. They have their own experiences. And then they start to realize that, oh, my dad is different. Like right now, one of the big struggles is electronic use. This wasn't a problem when I was a kid because it just didn't exist. I mean, we had TV, but it wasn't that big of a deal. We didn't have 24-hour cartoons or 24-hour entertainment. And we definitely didn't have the internet and iPhones and all that technology. And so I'm, you know, I'm over here looking at it and I see stark difference in my children when they're using a lot of electronics versus when they're not. Changes their personality completely. It changes their mood. How they engage with other people. It's like the processed food of our generation. Our generation grew up and processed food became a big thing. And, you know, if you lived at a home where your parents were like, no, you can't buy the sugary cereal. We're not going to get the sugary cereal. We're not going to have snacks all the time. You can't have hot pockets for lunch. You're the weird kid because everybody else says it's okay. And so you have to be different. Well, now I'm the guy that's like, if you want to use electronics, you need to ask me so I can monitor it. Well, I got a 15-year-old kid, you know, he's got to ask his dad every time he uses electronics. You know, and he's telling me, you know, my friends can be on all the time. Why am I being a different? This is a challenge as a parent, you know, or, you know, you have entertainment and media telling your kids that they glorify sex, for example. Nothing wrong with sex, but media makes you believe that it's everything, makes you believe that real connection without it isn't as valuable. So then you're going to have to counter that too or counter processed food. I'm a, you know, health and fitness person. Well, you know, these shitty foods are all over the place. So now at my house with me, I'm the guy that's different, you know, or we value things that are different than what seems to be advertised out there. That's really fucking challenging because you don't want to feel like the jerk. And then you don't, well, you also, here's the other side of it. I don't want this to happen. I don't want my kids to go off on their own. Oh, now I'm not under dad's control. Finally. I get to go in the opposite direction, you know what I mean, and rebel. So finding that balance. Maybe they'll, maybe they'll end up doing that. I don't know. That's the hard thing. It's when raising your kids, the right way is different than what everybody else seems to be doing. Well, and also, you know, realizing that, like they're not you, you know, like, like, like really, really understanding that. This is a different human being that has different ideas, different, like, because you totally like portray your own ideas and like, well, I wouldn't have done that, you know, that, that way. And this, and so that's something that I've, I've had to struggle with and realize and pull myself out and be like, these are completely different humans to me, even though they came, you know, from the part of me, they're completely different. Dude, if you, here's the big one, right? If you don't raise your kids, somebody else will. And that just may be society. Yeah, TV, group of friends. It might be the internet. It might be media. It might be their friends. You know, you look at some of these sites that, like, you know, I have a teenage boy and teenage boys, there's certain sites that they like to go on. And I'll go on and I'll read these forums and you can see there's a lot of cynicism. This is what tends to happen with teenage boys. They get cynical, they make jokes about a lot of stuff, everything's stupid or whatever. And if I'm not opposing that, that'll raise my kid. So that's a big ass challenge. And as a dad, you have to be very involved because I'll use a fitness analogy. We talk about movement patterns all the time. If you do correctional exercise, one hour a week, but then the rest of the week, you're moving terrible, which one's going to win? Well, if your kid is being raised by you a little bit and everything else is raising them all the time, you're going to lose. You're going to lose the battle. So for me, that's the hardest thing about being a father. Look, Mind Pump is recorded on video as well as audio. So if you want to watch Mind Pump as well as listen, go to YouTube Mind Pump podcast. Also, we have a lot of free guides. We present guides that show you how to burn body fat, build muscle, strengthen your body. But they say free guides. Guides, no guides. The guys are not free. Go to mindpumpfree.com. And then finally, if you want to find us on social media, you can find us on Instagram. Justin is at Mind Pump. Justin, I'm at Mind Pump Sal and Adam is at Mind Pump. Adam. I mean, when you think of like real world functional type strength, these, the movements that they were doing, a lot of them, they didn't even have done. They were like rocks, holders or stones. And so to me, like what I love about how functional these are, and when I think functional, I think the most carry over into real life. That's it. Like, you know, as much as we tout