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So, just want to, I want to go ahead and address some points of concern that I have. Okay. And let me just say this. I, what I want to say, I'm just going to basically speak from the heart. I don't know any other way to do so. But I hope and pray that you all will just bear with me as the old preacher say, I won't be before you long. I won't be before you long. But anyway, I want to share my heart with you all. I know there are many of you who are caught between two opinions. If you're an individual or brother or sister that are caught between two opinions, two views, put a one up in the chat. Put a one up in the chat, put a one up on the, on the, on the Facebook screen. This, this be honest. This, this be real. Okay. Let's be honest. Let's be real. Let's keep it a stack. Let's keep it a buck. Let's keep it a ban. All that. This is keep it real. Okay. How many of you are right now given, given the current state of issues that are going on regarding the John MacArthur situation? You're, you're, you don't know what to believe. You don't know what to believe or you know, you, you, you've, you pretty much know that to choose a side and I use that word side on purpose because it is what it is. I mean, there, there, there's going to have to be a side that we, that we must choose. And it's not about the person. It is about the principle by which we are to hold to. Okay. So I believe that unfortunately this has created unfortunately a civil war, a civil war, spiritually speaking, spiritually speaking, not one with guns and knives and, you know, and us doing physical harm to each other. But this is causing, I know, I do understand and I know that this is causing a lot of unrest. There are people that I know that are not made for this. They're not cut for this. They're not built for this. And so any type of conflict, any type of, of any type of disagreement, any type of quote unquote strife, they don't, they don't, they don't know how to deal with that. They don't receive it well. And this is not a dig. This is not a jab. This is not anything, but this is just the reality. This is the reality. I understand that. I really do understand that. And contrary to popular opinion, beliefs, comments or posts or statements, I don't thrive on conflict. I don't thrive on mess or confusion. I don't. I don't. My goal is when there is conflict or when there is confusion or when there is controversy, we meet, we need to make sure that what we are doing aligns with biblical principles. If it does not, then that is sin. That is sin. And I don't want to be a part of anything that is sinful. We have 80 that are watching, 81 right now that are watching. You had 28 that are, that have liked the video. Please, if you don't mind, if you came in, please go ahead and do us a favor and go ahead and click the like button or appreciate that. Thank you so much. But if it's sin, we should have no parts of that. If we're called to be holy, if we're called to be set apart, then that also means and what we support and who we support and who we support. Because if we're just blindly following, blindly supporting people because they have a nice channel or because they have nice bumper music or because they have a nice setup or because they talk real well, they have good oratory skills and all of that, you know, you may even like how they look. If those are your reasons for following channels, then that is very superficial and you will be easily duped and easily swayed and you will be prime pickings for the enemy. But if you and I are people of the truth and people of the word, then it does not matter. It does not matter what the individual looks like, how well their setup is, how well their lighting is, how many bells and whistles they have that helps them to accentuate and helps people to become engaged with their audience and their audience and become engaged with the content creator or the host. None of that matters if it's not based on truth. If it's not, if the substance of my channel or anyone else's channel is not rooted and grounded in the truth, you're wasting your time. You are wasting your time. And like I've said, the last thing I want to do is waste anyone else's time. So anytime that there is, anytime that there are issues in the body of Christ, and there will be, ladies and gentlemen, we would never be conflict or issue free, not on this side of glory. We won't. The reality is as long as we are on this planet and on this terra firma, we will have conflict and it is not always with the world. Do y'all hear me? It's not always with the world. And I believe that that's where a lot of the disappointment comes because we think that we, our enemy is the world. Yeah, the enemy is the world. That's one of the enemies. But the enemy is also the devil. But you know what else? Another enemy that we have to contend with every day, every day, our flesh, our flesh, the flesh never got saved. We have to contend and fight with that unredeemed principle that didn't get saved when we were chosen by God, saved by the blood of Christ, sealed with his Holy Spirit. The flesh never got saved. And so since the flesh never had, never got saved, we are going to always have to put the flesh to death, always. The moment we give the flesh an inch, he is going to take five miles. And this is why Paul tells us we're going to make no provision for the flesh, none. And so when we make no provision for the flesh, then it reduces the possibility for conflict, for confusion, and things of that nature. But we know the reality is, the reality is that we are going to sometimes be fleshed in. Sometimes we can create the conflicts ourselves if we're not careful. And I'm speaking to myself. I'm speaking about myself as well too. This is not just about you. This is about all of us. This is why it is important that we have a standard by which we are to agree with what the Word of God says. But when those conflicts come, we must ask ourselves, whose side are we going to stand on? Now, I know people want to say in the chat, I'm on the Lord's side. Okay. Well, the Lord has representatives. Hello? Hello? The Lord has representatives. Y'all do know that, right? We do know that if we're saying that we're going to stand on God's side, I don't choose sides. I'm on God's side. Okay. That sounds spiritual. That sounds godly. That sounds nice. That sounds churchy. But let's keep it real. Come on. You and I must pick a side when there is conflict. I'm not making this up. If you were here on yesterday's live, I pointed out that very scripture. This is not about people. It is about what that person represents. Are y'all listening to me? So let me just say this right now. And I said it before and I'll say it again. You, if you see me in sin and I refuse to repent, you need to leave me alone. Did you hear me? If I am in sin and I can be, I can have my moments when I'm on crack. I can have my moments when I'm tripping and I refuse to repent. If you bring me, if you bring me this and say, brother rightly interpreted, I'm not giving you my, I'm not giving you my preference to try to make you stand on my, as a precept. No, no, no, brother. This is what you did. This is what you said. And then, and that violates this. Okay. So I'm loving it coming to you saying, brother, how we need to, we need to work on this. We need to deal with this. Right? Now, if I refuse and say, no, okay, then now you have the responsibility and the biblical right and authority to hold me accountable. Now we're not, we're not members of the same church. I understand that, but since this is social media, what you do is you warn other people. If I'm refusing to comply and come up under this, if I refuse to come under this, then you need to leave. Are y'all hearing me? Because no one is exempt from this. No one, but if I have a crack moment, if I, if I'm tripping out and I, and I have a crack moment, then you have the responsibility and you are obligated to come to your brother and, and set your brother straight. But do it with the authority of the word of God. Don't come to me and don't come to other people and try to give them your perspective and give them your precepts and make them bow to your precepts. We all think we have, you know, preferences until people say, well, I don't agree with that. And then we try to make it their precept. No, no, especially if we didn't ask for it. So the standard about which we are to govern ourselves is this book, the word of God, the Bible, right? So I say that because we must pick a side when there is conflict. Oh Craig, come on, brother. Come on. I'm going to put that up right now. You, you, get out my notes though, bro. You got, you're going to get out of, yeah, I get out my notes, unless you've been following my channel, then that, then, then that's what's up. You've been, you've been, you've been listening, you've been, you've been rocking with your boy. I appreciate that because that's one of them. That's one of them. How many of y'all know? How many of y'all know that's the command? Hello? Well, brother Craig, just, just, just mention that is a command. You follow people who follow Christ, period. Doesn't matter who it is. It doesn't matter if they help you out and you was broke, busted and disgusted. And you was, I mean, you was rock bottom broke and they helped you because you know, sometimes people can become not hysterical, but they can become historical when you have to correct them about things they wrong about. And then they try to bring up your past and say, well, see, I remember when you didn't have no gas money and I had to, I had to give you, you know, $20 to get gas. Yeah, but then they're going to do what you're being in send though. I mean, I already said thank you when you gave it to me. Don't let the enemy try to try to throw y'all off your square when you have to confront sin. It doesn't matter what a person may have done for you. What matters now is what are they doing to the gospel? Or what are they doing to the body of Christ? That is causing the body of Christ to sin or to air or to slip up or to fall astray. I hope y'all are hearing my heart. I really do because too many of us are following people and are blindly supporting people because of personality and not principle. Not the precepts of God's word and you need to stop because you're no different than, we listen, you're no different. We're no different than the Corinthian church. We always want to talk about the Corinthians. I mean, the Corinthians are tripping. Well, sometimes we're not that far from the Corinthian church. Look at how we deal with conflict. Look at how we deal with issues in the church and the body of Christ. So the Bible tells us we must pick a side when there is sin in the camp and when there is conflict in the camp. Listen, God told Moses when Israel was tripping, he told Moses, okay, time to separate them because those who are going to be for me, you need to find out. And he said, whoever is on the lower side, come on over here. And when Israel knew that God was about the wreck shop, they didn't say, well, hey, Moses, we don't pick sides. We don't pick sides, Moses. That's being Colonel. You better pick a side. You better choose right now who you're going to serve. You may want to come on over here and leave them idolaters and leave them fornicators and adulterers alone over there because the guy's about to do, he bought the hand of some business. And so the same principle applies in the old as well as the new and the old as well as the new. There are times brothers and sisters when you and I must pick a side because Paul said it, follow me as I follow Christ. But Paul didn't just say that Paul also said this. He said, for there must also be factions among you. Why? So that and that word and listen, that must be factions among you. There must be factions among you. It speaks of necessity. It's, it's, it's inevitability. It must, it's going to happen that you're going to have, you're going to have beef in the body. We're going to have conflict in the church. There's going to be controversy in the church. The question is, the question is, is the conflict because a, a principle or a precept has been violated or people are just stirring up conflict and controversy for controversy's sake. That's different. That's different. Thank you, dear. Yes. Some disagreements are necessary. That's what Paul is saying. That's what Paul is saying. No, I'm, I'm, I'm still here. I'm just behind my serene. You've been gone for a minute. Look, look, look serene. Let me, let me have serene out. I want her getting nervous and getting, and getting scared. Lord have mercy. Bless your right. Look serene. Hey serene. Hi. You see me? I ain't gone nowhere, sister. I ain't gone nowhere. So listen, Paul says right here, for there must, there must also, there must also be factions among you. Notice he didn't say in the world, we, I mean, because we're not in the world, we're not in the world. He says, for there must also be factions among you, among believers, factions, heresies, divisions, schisms. That's the word that's being used here. Okay. And he gives us the reason or the purpose behind it so that those who are approved may become evident among you. The new living translation, and I put that up just to make it more simple and plain. But of course, there must be divisions among you so that you, who have God's approval, will be recognized. And in fact, since people think that I hate John MacArthur, that I haven't quote unquote axed the grind against John MacArthur. No, I don't have an axed the grind against John MacArthur. John MacArthur needs to repent. John MacArthur's in sin, but I get to that in a minute. I get to that in a minute. But in his, in his commentary that has his name on it, he gives, he gives a commentary regarding this very text. Look at what it says. One of the most fearful things in a church is division because it is one of the first insurus signs of spiritual sickness. One of the first symptoms of worldliness and backsliding, often before it shows up in compromised doctrine or lifestyle is dissension within a congregation. Paul was well aware that division cannot be entirely avoided until the Lord returns, there will always be tears among the wheat and disobedient believers as well. Now, I don't know if MacArthur thought about himself, but yes, MacArthur would be considered as a disobedient believer. And 44 years later, unrepentant, he's probably a so-called or an unbeliever or shouldn't even be called a believer at all. Yeah, I said it. Yes, I said it. And I, and I, and I'm a, I'm a, I'm going to give you the receipt to show why I said it in just a minute. Don't, don't, don't clutch your pearls yet. But MacArthur writes in his commentary of 1 Corinthians 11 19 quote, for there must also be factions among you. There must be translate the single word day, which means it is necessary. It is necessary or it must be and notice and denotes necessity or compulsion of any kind. When Peter and the other apostles were told by the Sanhedrin to stop preaching the gospel, they replied, quote, we must, we day, we must obey God rather than men. The word is often used in the New Testament to represent divine necessity. Jesus used the term on numerous occasions in relation to certain scripturally predicted and divinely appointed events, including his crucifixion and resurrection. He even said, for it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come, but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes. That is the, that is the sense in which Paul uses this term here. The paradox is that it was necessity for there to be factions in the Corinthian church in order that those who are approved may have become evident among you. The worldliness the worldliness and fleshly disobedience of those who cause, listen, listen, the worldliness and fleshly disobedience of those who caused the divisions would expose and highlight the love, harmony, and spirituality of those who are approved, approved, documents refers to that which has passed the test. The term was used of precious metals tried in fire and proved to be true. Church division ungodly and as sinful as it is, nevertheless is used by the Lord to prove the worth of his faithful saints. In the midst of bickering and divisiveness, they are separated out as pure gold is from the dross. Evil helps manifest good. Trouble in the church creates a situation in which true spiritual strength, wisdom, and leadership can be manifested. Did y'all hear this? I'm not saying this, John MacArthur said it. So why are we having this civil war spiritually speaking? Because of disobedient believers, because of worldliness in the church, because people are not aligning themselves with the scriptures. Does everybody see this? Am I, is everybody seeing this? Are we good? Facebook? Are we good? YouTube? Are we good? Are we, are we all tracking with this concept here? This is why we have conflict in the church. This is why we have division in the church. This is why we have confusion in the church, because somebody is walking in the flesh. Somebody is being disobedient. Somebody is not submitting under the lordship of Jesus Christ. Somebody is allowing their way to be the only way instead of God's way being the only way. This is why we have confusion. This is why we have conflict. This is why we are now arguing and fighting, especially speaking, among ourselves over a man, John MacArthur, who has been defending, protecting, providing a haven for child molesters, pedophiles, sexual offenders, and wife beaters. And there are those of us who are saying, no, this is wrong. No, he cannot continue to be a pastor if he has not repented. And even if he has repented, there are consequences. 44 years, I believe, is a long time to repent and still not repent. I'm just saying, especially when you put someone out that you claim has not repented by going back to their abusive husband. And later we find out child molesting father and sexually assaulting father. And then you treat her as the unbeliever and even declare her as an unbeliever publicly, publicly. Oh, I'm going somewhere. I'm definitely going somewhere. Just bear with me. We taxing right now. I won't be before you long. We taxing. We taxing. Get ready and put the tray tables up in a minute. We're going to take off in just a second. But this is John MacArthur's quote. This is not mine. This is what he said. Let's read it again. Bottom highlighted paragraph, shall we? Church division, ungodly and sinful as it is, nevertheless, is used by the Lord to prove the worth of his faithful saints. Notice his faithful saints. Those who are going to stand on God's word, whether you have followers or not, whether you have subscribers or not, whether your numbers drop or not, whether people no longer talk to you anymore or they do. It doesn't matter. I'm going to be faithful to God's word. I'm going to be faithful to him because he the one that saved me and the same God that gave me friends, the same God that gave me subscribers, the same God that gave me supporters is the same God that can do it again because my success ain't based on whether or not you like what I say. It's not based on whether or not you agree. I don't care whether you agree with me. The question is what I'm saying and is it congruent? Does it concur? Does it line up to the canon to the word of God? If it does, then you better line up with it because Paul said, follow me as I follow Christ. That's a command. That's a command. That's an imperative. You don't follow anybody that ain't following God, that ain't leading you to God, that ain't helping you grow in God. And oh, by the way, it ain't just this one time. No, no, no. You and I need to have our discernment meter calibrated at all times. Y'all hear me? I want y'all to hear what I gotta say. I really do. Your calibration meter better be, spiritually speaking, better be, your discernment meter, excuse me, better be calibrated at all times because that's how the enemy gets us. He gets you and I lacking and slacking when you're watching lives and when you're watching certain programs and when you're watching certain, you know, content because you made me so used to just, oh, just sitting on your spiritual laurels and a person says something and then you just let it fly by. And then next thing you know, you caught up in the matrix and you'll know how to get out. Satan always starts with the little stuff, the little stuff. And again, let's, let's get rid of, let's just set aside the low hanging fruit. Okay. We're not talking about the Paganis and the, and the quote unquote, patent false teachers that we already know. I'm talking about those of us whose doctrine on the surface is on point. Oh, y'all not, y'all not talking to me. That's okay. I'm talking to those of us whose channels you've been following for a minute, whose channels you've been liking. I'm talking to myself. This ain't no shade. I ain't got, I ain't got, I ain't got no shade. I say what I say and I mean what I mean. I'm gonna keep it, I'm gonna keep it real over here, baby. You can follow my channel today and I trip out and get on crack tomorrow. I start, I start going cuckoo for cocoa puffs, cocoa puffs on Thursday and I may have been bringing a word all, all throughout the week. And then third, I start tripping. You bet you better have your antennas up. You better have your discernment meters calibrated. You better, you better be ready. You better be like a Berean. You better make sure that, hey, what does brother say? Is it, is it, is it lining up with the word? Or am I just, I'm just, you know, just, just like how he just quote unquote keeps it real. No, keeping it real means I'm being devoted to the word of God. That's as real as, listen, that's as real as a person can be. When a person says what thus says to the Lord, that's a real one. Okay. That's a real one. When a person is hymn and hind, when a person is well, I don't know, then you ain't real. Then you're not real. Then you're not real. So he says church division, ungodly and sinful as it is, nevertheless, is used by the Lord, is used by the Lord to prove the worth of his faithful saints. In the midst of bickering and divisiveness, they are separated out as pure gold is from the dross. Evil helps manifest good. Do you hear this? Evil helps manifest good. Trouble in the church creates a situation in which true spiritual strength and leadership can be manifested. But wait, he also says in 1 Corinthians chapter 1 verse 10, he comments on this as well, quote, same writer, same MacArthur, same MacArthur, same MacArthur, 1 Corinthians 1 verse 10, where he says that we are all are supposed to agree and say the same thing. Do you all hear me? Christians, brothers, sisters, we should be saying the same thing. We should be singing the same tune when it comes to doctrinal unity. Look at the text or look at the commentary rather, look at the screen. For a local church to be spiritually healthy, harmonious and effective, there must above all be doctrinal unity. Listen, you know one of the doctrines that we don't really talk about much? The doctrine of homartiology. In other words, the doctrine of sin. We don't talk about the doctrine of sin and how sin can affect relationships, how sin left unchecked, can affect marriages, can affect businesses, can affect your life. Yeah, they do, dear, they sure do. And that's why it's up to us to teach the correct context according to the author's intent. But notice what John MacArthur says. Quote, obviously, we cannot know dogmatically what is not fully or clearly revealed. Of course, right? Did it arrive in 2929? But God is not confused or self contradictory. He does not disagree with himself and his word does not disagree with itself. Consequently, Paul insists that the Corinthians and all believers have doctrinal unity, not just any doctrinal unity, but unity. Here it is, that is clearly and completely based on God's word. Thank you, Pastor John MacArthur, because he said it. I did not. He said it. He said, again, not just any doctrinal unity, but unity that is clearly and completely based on God's word. That's what he said, correct? Am I making this up or is that, are we just basically just, you know, reading a blur here? I'm confused. I'm just asking. I'm just asking, okay? Because that's what he says, right? So again, we're not, this is not, this is not personal. This is not me throwing a jab at anybody, at Corey or anybody. I don't care who you are. Corey, Alan Parr, whoever, doesn't matter. The moment we veer off and get off track, you better get off. If we don't say what the word of God says about sin, the byline, the problem, the person who you're following is the problem. Oh, I know you will, bro. And that's what you're supposed to do. You better. You better. But let's look at, let's look at two more, two more texts. Let's look at second Corinthians, second Corinthians, chapter 10, verse three through five. For though we walk in the flesh, for though we walk in the flesh, we do not war. We do not war according to the flesh. Why? For the weapons of our warfare, Paul says, for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction. King James says, for the pulling down of strongholds. Verse five, and we are destroying every speculation and every lofty thing. Notice what he says. We're doing this. We're not, we're not praying to God. No, no, no, we're doing it. He's giving us the power to do it. Ideologies, worldviews, systems of beliefs. If it don't align with the word of God, we're going to cast that thing down. We're to destroy it. We're to dismantle it. We're to take it out of its commission. We're destroying speculations and notice not just some things, every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God. That means, that means what you think about John MacArthur, what you think about Vody, what you think about me, all of it, because we have our own lofty things. We believe about a person. God says, that needs to come down. World views, ideologies, how we think that we've elevated. God says, you better take it down. We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God. And we are taking every thought captive. We're arresting it. We are. Notice we're doing it. Do you see that? We are taking every thought captive. It's in the active voice. That means we're supposed to do this constantly, not just one time, constantly taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. The Libyan translation says we are human, but we don't wage war as humans do. We use God's mighty weapons, not worldly weapons to knock down the strongholds of human reasoning and to destroy false arguments. We destroy every proud obstacle that keeps people from knowing God. We capture their rebellious thoughts and teach them to obey Christ. You see the point? That's the point. We know Ephesians six, Ephesians six, verse 10 through 20. Liquor Paul says Ephesians chapter six, verse 10 through 20. Finally, breathe, be strong in the Lord and in the strength or the power of His might. Put on. It's an imperative. Middle voice means you do it for yourself, for your own benefit. Put on the full arm of God purpose clause so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full arm of God so that you will be able to resist an evil day and having done everything to stand firm. Verse 14, stand firm. Therefore, having girded your loins with truth and having put on the breastplate of righteousness and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace. In addition, verse 16, in addition to all taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish the flaming arrows of the evil one. How many of y'all know we need faith? We need God to give us the ability to believe those things that seem to be doubtful because the enemy would try to play with our mind. We had those moments where we don't think right. We don't believe right. God says, take the shield of faith. Take it. Take it. Take it up. Verse 17, and take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God. Oh my God. Oh, listen, listen. This is right here. He's not even talking about this. Listen, listen, listen. This ain't the Lagos word. This is the Ramah word. Yeah, this is a right now word. Can y'all hear me? Do you hear what I'm saying? Not just the written word, the Lagos word we're to have, but what's the use of having the Lagos if we don't have the Ramah? You need a right now word. You need a word for a particular situation, a circumstance. This is what God says right here. Take the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God, the Ramah word of God, how God speaks to us in those moments. That's the Ramah word. God still speaks, ladies and gentlemen. He speaks through his word. He speaks to our hearts. He speaks through people and situations, but we're to test it to see whether they be of God, but God is still speaking when you and I going through, he speaks when you read his word and then ask for God to give you understanding, give you illumination, give you knowledge on how to apply. And then he does that's Ramah. Because that everything is for everybody. Some things God just wants you to do. Verse 18, with all prayer and petition, pray at all times in the spirit. That ain't tongues. Praying with aligns with the word of God and the spirit of God. That's what it means. And with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints. We're to pray for each other. Can y'all, can y'all pray for me as I pray for you? That's what we're supposed to be doing. He says, be on alert with all perseverance, stay at it, don't give up and petition for all the saints. And Paul says, and pray on my behalf that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth to make known with, notice with boldness, with boldness, the mystery of the gospel for which I am an ambassador in chains that in proclaiming it, I may speak boldly as I ought to speak. And that's that listen. That should be all of our prayer because right now people are wimping out. People are wimping out. People are punking out. People are tapping out and people are copping out a little bit of a little bit of, you know, conflict and people want to just, you know, question whether or not you're the one that's the problem. How am I the problem? I didn't start anything. I'm just saying what God's word says. And then if conflict comes, it comes because of the truth. It's not coming because I'm starting anything. So why is there civil war? Why is there conflict in the body? Why is there conflict in the church? Why? Because they're sinning the camp because people are not dealing with sin biblically. That's why. That's why people are not dealing with sin biblically. And when we don't deal with sin biblically, then we're supposed to have conflict so people can know, hey, that ain't right. That's sin. They're telling you, that's, they're telling you wrong. They're telling you that's not, that's not, that's not true. That's not, that's not golly. That's worldly. That's fleshly. My lovely bride wrote this earlier today, said this quote, the under shepherds are guilty of not doing those things they are called by God to do. It's sad. And if you're too weak to carry out the assignment, then don't take on the role. The price tag is high. Being weak, cowardice, and standing in God's pulpit would cost you. But being a true under shepherd will also cost you. Maybe your very life. You have been allowed those entrusted to you alone, vulnerable, uncared for easy targets of the enemy you're supposed to protect them from. You're too concerned about numbers or members, your largest contributors, money, expansions, building funds, or whatever else you deem necessary to keep the doors open and the seats full. However, you have neglected the very souls you were given to guard, feed, lead, disciple. The sheep are just wandering around aimlessly while the enemy has crept into your churches. The wolves feel all safe and comfy in most churches today. You don't even recognize a wolf when he is among you because you're too busy coddling the wolf. You refuse to teach your sheep how to spot a wolf too. You want to show grace to the wolf? Shame on you, under shepherd, pastor, if this is your idea of leading the flock. Thank God for those who actually fulfill the duty and role. May God continue to empower you for his glory. Yeah, and I gotta give my wife hers. Yep. Unshame, unashame, bias. That too, and this one. Gotta give it to her. Yep. Don't judge me. That's the missus. That's the missus. All right. Now, what I want to share with you tonight is well, because I played a clip earlier in the introduction. Some of you may not have seen it, but I'll play it again momentarily. Because if we're talking about why are we having this conflict and why is there a civil war, because people are not dealing with sin. But John MacArthur said that we're supposed to agree with what the clear teaching of the word of God says. So maybe, maybe I need to do this first. Maybe I need to go back for a second and make sure that we understand the word of God when it comes to church discipline, because there may be some of you who don't even know what church discipline is. And so we need to make sure that we're all on the same page, right? Right? Right. All right. So then let's do this. Let's go to Matthew chapter 18. Matthew 18. And we're going to look at verses 15 through 17. Jesus says, if your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of two or three witnesses, every notice, not opinion, not your position, every fact, every irrefutable fact, every objective thing may be confirmed. Verse 17. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he or she refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Those are the steps, those are the processes for church discipline. Exactly. And if you can't confidently, boldly, accurately handle conflicts and resolve them, then don't pastor. Yeah, because you're not helping anybody when you do that. Every biblical pastor or someone who claims to be a pastor should know how to do biblical conflict resolution. I mean, it's not, I mean, the cheat code is right there in the scriptures, but let's also go to because this is dealing with this is dealing with quote unquote layfolk. This is dealing with the parishioners, right? We need to go to the pastors as well, too. We don't, we don't think they give to get a pass. Well, some of them, some of them do, but anyway. Verse 19, 1st 75. Do not receive an accusation against an elder except on the basis of two or three witnesses, right? So we see that in Matthew 18. Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all. Why? So that the rest also will be fearful of sinning. I've already addressed this with MacArthur, I think MacArthur versus MacArthur that I did a few videos ago. You can check the channel out and go there. Verse 21, verse 21, I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen angels and of His chosen angels to maintain these without bias, doing nothing, doing nothing impartiality, nothing, nothing. Doesn't matter who it is. John the Baptist, John MacArthur, doesn't matter, doesn't matter. God says we don't have partiality. We don't have favoritism in the church. I don't care who it is. Don't care who it is. John MacArthur, John the Baptist, doesn't matter. John Legend, don't matter. They're in sin, deal with them. But it must be based on sin, not subjective preferences, not gossip, not slander. And because you have the authority, you want to put them out. There ain't how that goes. There's a process. And what we know to be a fact is John MacArthur did not follow the biblical process of church discipline. He put a woman out, Eileen Gray, for refusing to go back to her abusive husband because he was not repenting. We know he's not repenting because he's in jail right now doing life and had his parole denied. Because they, based on evidence that we would never know and see now at this point. What we got in writing in those court documents, it's far worse than we can ever imagine, most likely. But nonetheless, John MacArthur had the information. He knew what was happening. He's the pastor of Grace Community Church. He refused to meet with Eileen Gray and yet put this woman out at the quote unquote, after meetings with Carrie Hardy, and all the evidence that we see, he saw and then some, and yet they did not treat this woman with fairness and justice and put this woman and her children out, making this woman now to be a widow and their children orphans. And only by God's grace, this woman and her children are still here, broken, battered, scarred. Yes, but by the grace of God, they're still here. But this man, this man right here, put Eileen Gray out during a communion ceremony and declared this woman to be an unbeliever. So without any further ado, again, let's roll the video. So the discipline that he uses is to be put out of the church, to be publicly put away from the fellowship. In this case, it implies that Eileen Gray, husband David, Eileen had been in the church for many years, not too long ago, really, Eileen decided to leave her husband to grant no grace to him at all, to take the children away, to forsake him, not to reconcile, to reject all of the instruction of counsel, the helpers, all of the instruction from the Word of God. Many, many of our pastors have been involved in this very tragic situation, which he continues to throw accusations against her husband. We've done everything we can to call her defense. Now we have to do what the Bible says. When her out-treaters say she's an unbeliever, for all he knows, she may well be. Notice he said, for all we know, she may as well be. Let me run it back and make sure you get the exact quote. For all we know, she may well be. Pray for David, for the sympathy, the compassion, and the loving kindness cut beneath his portion. Well, let's say an amazing grace. So that's the video, ladies and gentlemen. That's the video. You heard it yourself. Now, Eileen Gray currently, currently, I spoke with her the other day. And currently, she is still under church discipline 20 years ago, 20 years later, 20 years later. David Gray is not under church discipline. He is in good standing with Grace Community Church to this day. Now, like I mentioned, optically, they probably won't let him come back. But if he were paroled right now, he would not be placed under church discipline. Currently, right now, John MacArthur, Grace Community Church have not put this man under church discipline, but they still have Eileen Gray under church discipline has still yet to render an apology, ask for forgiveness, any of that. But as we know, Corey Miner said on his channel that public repentance is not required for public sin. I don't see what the scriptures will support that view. I don't see that at all. This woman was sinned against publicly. Why would there be a private conversation about something that was done publicly? This woman has been shamed, publicly shamed, unbiblically so, has been cast out, has been quote unquote, handed over to Satan. Thank God that that's not how God operates, because he's a just God. He's a merciful God. Just because John MacArthur and Grace Community Church quote unquote, handed her over to Satan, God didn't hand her over to Satan, because God's judgments is right. So, since we know that that has happened, is John MacArthur guilty and in sin for sinning against Eileen Gray, sinning against Wendy Gray 44 years ago? I mean, he would have to be. He would have to be, because he, this wasn't handled biblically and it was not an opportunity, a missed opportunity. No, no, this was sin, ladies and gentlemen. This was, this was blatant, malicious sin, callous, careless and reckless sin. That's what this was. And then later on, we find that this man molests and sexually assaults his children. He goes to prison, rightly so, but John MacArthur and Grace Community Church support his ministry financially and they did not give Eileen Gray a dime. So, ladies and gentlemen, I ask you, we're at war with each other over a man who refuses to repent because he is protecting pedophiles, child molesters and wife beaters, that he has a haven. He has made a haven for this kinds of people at Grace Community Church. And so, we're beefing over this man. Yeah, that's exactly. They close the Facebook page for the prison ministry when they got exposed. That was the only reason why. When they got busted, that's when they close it out. Facts, facts. But what I'm asking is, is this sin? Is John MacArthur an unrepentant sin? That's what I, that's what I'm asking is according to, according to what he says now, because what's the sin that Eileen Gray committed? Nothing. She was sinned against. She didn't sin. Her sin, in their eyes, was not going back to an abuser. And later on, we find and discover a child molester. That's her sin, according to them. And so, now we have division, we have division in the church among professing believers on how we are to deal and respond to John MacArthur. When John MacArthur don't give a healer beans about us, he has people caping for him. He has people covering for him. He has people protecting him, even right now. Even right now. This should be, this should be easy to come to a conclusion and judgment on it. Yes, John MacArthur is in sin. John MacArthur needs to step down, never to occupy a pulpit again. He is an unrepentant sin. And we should declare him an unbeliever because why? Why? Because he declared Eileen Gray an unbeliever and Eileen Gray did nothing wrong. So why are we treating MacArthur as though he's the one that's being victimized and those who have been victimized and those who have been shamed and those who have been treated as unbelievers, they're the ones now are the other villains. No, but don't take my word for it. If a man is in sin and he's not repentant for that sin, then he has no reason. He has no right, I should say, to remain in ministry. Stay by the word of God because if you don't apply the word of God to the pastor, if you're selective in applying what the word of God says ever in your ministry, then you give people all kinds of reason to question you when you try to apply it to them or to anybody else. Y'all know when that was? Yeah, the Lord reminded me of this sermon. Actually, it wasn't a sermon. It wasn't even a sermon. Take a while, guess when this was done. Take a while, guess in the comments. Take a while, guess. Take a while, guess. When was this done? Y'all want to guess when this was done? Anybody on Facebook? You want to guess? Yes, 2003 Shepherd's Conference. In particular, general session number eight. Yours truly attended that conference and yours truly was standing behind one of the mics asking a question regarding his friendship and relationship with Tony Evans. I was there. Don't take my word for it. Y'all pull it up. Y'all can go there. Yeah. Y'all can go to shepherdsconference.com, I believe, or .org, and you can go right there. Here's the funny thing, Christina. That was Eileen Gray with the camera. Talk about gangster? Listen, that was Eileen with the camera, y'all. Yes, she pulled up. She pulled up. You talking about gangster? Yeah, that was gangster. That was gangster. She pulled up with her camera in tow, sat in the congregation and recorded that. How many, listen, how many of you would have done that? I mean, zoomed in on MacArthur and everything and kept that 20 years later. Come on now. Come on. You ain't gonna tell me that this wasn't a god thing. Yep. Lady Staten, you said, what happened between Tony Evans and J. Mack? So here's, I'll just give you a quick synopsis of it. Tony Evans wrote a book called Totally Saved. He wrote a book entitled Totally Saved and it was a concept or doctrine called Transubstantiation. Tony Evans held the belief about transubstantiation. They basically saying that those who don't hear the gospel, God will, in a different dispensation, give them the opportunity to be saved. Outside, if they haven't heard the gospel, he's gonna dispensationalize them outside what the scriptures teach. And so that caused beef or caused conflict between MacArthur and Tony Evans because they were, they were good friends. They were speaking at each other's church. And so I was there in 2003 when MacArthur was blasting Tony Evans. I mean, he would, he would throw shots across the bow and over the bow in his sermons. And I didn't know what was going on. And so ironically, my pastor at the time when I was attending this church in Houston is the brother-in-law of Tony Evans. And so I knew how the pastor that I was under at the time, how he liked MacArthur because he would send me, as a matter of fact, that's how I went to the Shepherd's Conference. I went to the Shepherd's Conference because the church that I was attending, they would send their deacons and ministry leaders to the Shepherd's Conference. And actually, that's how I was won over to the doctrines of grace. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry about that. My apologies. Yes, trans dispensationalism. Excuse me. Trans dispensationalism. Thank you for that correction, brother. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, trans dispensationalism, not transubstantiation. That's no. Lord, no. But thank you, man. Appreciate that. Thank you. So the, so that kind of like created some conflict. And so if you go, if you, and brother Proverbs, he put the link up there, go near the end of the, of the audio. And you hear me ask the question. And, and you hear Tony Evans, I mean, you hear John McCarthy give his response and his reasons why he cannot support and stand with Tony Evans in this. And he said, you made a public statement. You put it in a book. I cannot defend that. That's what MacArthur said. He says, Tony's my friend. I love him. He says, but, you know, he said, and then he said this, he says, and he knows that we're having this, this, this conference. And he knows that I'm probably going to be talking about him in this conference. He said that he said it jokingly, but he said it. He says, I love him. He said, but, you know, he said, I can't protect you. This is all on tape. I got the audio myself. It's all on tape. Craig, you say, what about these other leading pastors who attend these events with Jay Mac? Has any of them addressed this? Absolutely not. Well, I have the address. I don't know if they addressed it with him, but they don't address it publicly. None of these people that have been going to these conferences, they have not publicly, they have not publicly called MacArthur to repentance. Not one of them. And I call all of them cowards. They're straight up cowards. Let me, let me pull the link up. Let's see. Let me put a link up. And then I'll, I'll let you all go because I tell you, I was going to keep you all long. And I meant that we're hour 15 in. Let me see if I can find it. Is it in the chat? Is it the one you just put up here? Is this, is this the one right here, Proverbs? Is this the one? If that's the one, I'll go ahead and, and, and, and link it as well. Make sure that's the right one. Okay. So I'm assuming this is the right one. Let me, let me go ahead and bear with me. Ladies and gentlemen, just take this down, Graceturch.org, sermon 16. Give me a minute. This is real time y'all. Let's see. I wasn't going to do it, but your, your brother Proverbs want me to do it. Graceturch.org. Let me go back over here and let's pull this up. Make it populate it. Graceturch.org. All right. Proverbs, 16. Let's see. Let's see if this thing works. All right. Here we go. So let me, thank you, brother. Let me go ahead and I will play it. Let me key it up here. Make sure I got the right joint. The difficulty might be that there are people who believe that and know that, but they can't get him to step down. Then I think it behooves the people to disappear. I mean, I think this is serious. If you are not a man of God above reproach, you cannot shepherd God's flock. And if you will not go away, then the people need to go away and find a shepherd who will be faithful to the Lord. I, I realize the scarcity. I realize the premium, but you can't change the rules or you lower the standard and that gains you nothing. If a man is, is in sin and he is, he's not repentant for that sin, then he has no reason. He has no right, I should say, to remain in ministry. And what we're trying to do in Mexico just quickly, we've started a school, training school in Mexico City, starting to train the pastors for this very reason. Everywhere you go in the world, the doctrine is confusing. And, and we're, we're sending our graduates from the seminaries all over the place. You saw some in the little S.T. Arbor assured more coming in the future to help in that way. But stay by the word of God, because if you don't apply the word of God to the pastor, if you're selective in applying what the word of God says ever in your ministry, then you give people all kinds of reason to question you when you try to apply it to them or to anybody else. You heard that right now, right? You heard what he said, right? So I'm not making this up. Here it is right here, general session number eight, questions and answers, John McArthur, 2003. Let's go. It's, it's all or nothing. You make the commitment and you do what scripture says. Just the quickly, these couple of questions and we'll be done. Okay. Thank you. We want to pass on McArthur. My name is Segal Woodson from Houston, Texas. I have two questions. My first question is basically among the African American community. You find a lot of false doctrine, a lot of unsound teaching. There's an onslaught, if you will, against expository exegetical preaching, especially in the black community. My question is to you, what would you say to, I guess to the African American community, who is striving for expository preachings, who are trying to find church homes that preach the word of God without compromise, not trying to waver in what the word of God teaches? That's something that I struggle with as a, as a pastor and I'm trying to. Yeah, I hear your struggle. I know exactly what's coming out of your heart and what's coming out of your heart is you're there trying to preach the word of God faithfully. You've got a small little group of people and a few thousand are piling in somewhere else to hear this shtick that's going on, you know, the sort of romp and stomp and organ background mania, right? Yeah, I mean, and you're saying I'm trying to be faithful. Look, just plow that furrow, brother. Just be faithful and God will call out his people and he'll draw those people to you. Okay. And you know what? Forget the results. Just do the task. Leave the results to him. My, my second question was you commented on Dr. Evans book totally saved. I didn't really get too much of the context of it. I wanted to, if you could elaborate on that and how did that affect you? How is that affecting your fellowship with them? Well, that's the case. Now, you heard the question, right? You heard the question. I know some of y'all just dropped because I was talking to MacArthur. This was in 2003. I was young. I was also kind of nervous because I'm standing before all these people and but I just had to ask the question because I'm like, man, what is this issue you have with Tony Evans? What's the problem? Because he had mentioned it in one of his sermons. Matter of fact, in the same, in the same, same conference, same conference. So, so he just wants you to make sure you heard what he says. Let's finish up. I love Tony. He's my friend. He has been for years and he wrote the book totally saved. And when I came to that appendix, you know, about people going to heaven by works, which is what it is, people going to heaven by works without the gospel, just by believing there's a God, which every human being has written in his heart, according to Romans, you know, the knowledge of God is in them. So all I could do was talk with him. I mean, I went right to Tony and and I, I've pled with him. And then I, and I said, I'm going to send you some things. And I collected everything I could and some teaching that I've done and some things that I wrote. And I put together a whole presentation on the implications of that. And I pled with him to reconsider because he's just, he's just a vital guy. We need him. We don't need him getting outside the box on that. And so to this point, his response has been that he will not change. He's fixed in that view. And that's where he is. So I just, I love him too much to leave him alone. And I wouldn't talk about this with you at all. But it's in a book and everybody's asking me about it. And that's what I said. I mean, he's, he's, I'm sure he's down there wondering if this is coming up out here because he knows we're having this conference. And I would never bring up a personal conversation, a private conversation or tell you anything that we said. But as I said to him, when you, when you put it in a book, I can't, I can't protect you. I can't, I can't deal with you on the personal level anymore. It's public. You did it. You said it. That's it. Um, I'm gonna run that part back. I'm gonna run that part back. Did y'all hear what did y'all hear what the evangelical Pope said? You put it in a book. It's fair game. You said it in video. It's fair game. You made a public statement. It's fair game. That's what MacArthur said. That's what MacArthur said. So why, why are y'all mad at me again? I'm, I'm sorry. Let's, let's run it back again. Let's, let's, let's, let's run it back just a little bit more. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Let's run it back. Just a little bit. And I pled with him to, to reconsider because he's just, he's just a vital guy. We need him. We don't need him getting outside the box on that. And so to this point, his response has been that he will not change. He's fixed in that view. And that's where he is. So I, I just, I love him too much to leave him alone. And I wouldn't talk about this with you at all, but it's in a book and everybody's asking me about it. And that's what I said. I mean, he's, he's, I'm sure he's down there wondering if this is coming up out here because he knows we're having this conference. And I would never bring up a personal conversation, a private conversation or tell you anything that we said. But as I said to him, when you, when you put it in a book, I can't, I can't protect you. I can't, I can't deal with you on the personal level anymore. It's public. You did it. You said it. That's it. And I'm the same way there are conferences going on all over the place where they're shooting at me because of something I said or I wrote. And that's, that's, that's the way it is. If you put it out there and it's fixed in print, that's it. But anyway, we need to just keep praying and I hope the Lord will give him direction. Okay, quickly one other. Thank you. All right. I think that's, I think that's it. Don't you think? Appreciate your proverbs. Thank you, man. I wasn't even going to play that joint. I was going to tell people to go over there and you know, and do it themselves. But now it's, now it's on record. So by your standard, Pastor John McArthur, and by your standard, you should be judged. So what are we to do with John McArthur? We're to do with John McArthur the same we would do with anyone who was in sin. And since we're not a part of his church, then we know what we can do. We can tell people to not support him to, to, I mean, we already know the elders are not going to do anything about it. That's clear. Han Cho had to leave because when he went back and gave them the findings of their, of their abuse, could they, now listen, not only was Eileen Gray abused by her husband, not only was the children abused by their father, but also John McArthur and the elders of Grace Community Church abuse Eileen Gray and her children. You may have done it sexually. No, they didn't do it sexually, but they did it spiritually. This is what we talk about spiritual abuse. Yes, spiritual abuse. That is what they did. They abused, spiritually abused a woman who was innocent, innocent. She was not guilty. She should have, she should have never had church, church discipline administered against her. She should have never been treated like a widow and not had the support of the church. She should have never had her children treated as orphans without the support of the church at Grace Community. Never. All I'm doing is dropping receipts. It's your response. It's your, it's your, it's your responsibility to respond to them accordingly. Don't get mad at me. I'm just dropping the receipts. That's all I did. Deal with it. Deal with it. It's funny how people act when their idol is the one on the slab. First, like, like, like, uh, Ishan Burgundy said they'll, they'll, they'll hell you than nail you. They'll hell you to nail you. They'll prop you up and then they'll pop you the next minute. And that's why you can't, you can't do this for people. You can't. You gotta do this for the Lord. And then, and God will bring people that, that, that, that love truth and that love, the faithfulness of golly people to preach his word, to teach his word and of course to apply it by the grace and strength and power of God. Those are the people that you want. I don't want some time you fickle people. I don't want that. Right. Eileen followed church protocol and the church didn't. They basically screwed this woman over and still to this day. So why are we, why are we treating John MacArthur like a believer? Come on. Why are we treating John MacArthur like a believer? And he treated Eileen Gray like an unbeliever. Huh? Make that make sense to me. Make that make sense. He had no problem calling her declaring her an unbeliever, handing her over to Satan. But ain't nobody handing MacArthur over to Satan. Ain't nobody did trust this one on MacArthur. He's doing all the trust this one and everybody else, but nobody is doing it against him. But, but we are arguing and making videos defending a man who's protecting pedophiles, child molesters and wife beaters. But yeah, yeah, I'm the divisive one. I'm the, I'm the messy one. I'm the one that, you know, turns on their friends and, and, and all that. No, no, no, no, I haven't gone anywhere. The consistently inconsistent ones are the ones who ain't standing on the word of God. Remember MacArthur put that in his commentary. I just read it to y'all. Let's wrap it with one more verse, maybe first John chapter four, verse five and six. Gonna make sure we have this in our eye gate. They are from the world. Therefore, they speak as from the world and the world listens to them. We are from God. He who knows God listens to us. Remember I told y'all about pick a side? Remember I told y'all that? I'm not making this stuff up. It's right here. Some texts are implied. Some texts are directly, are direct indicatives, facts. They are from the world. Therefore, they speak as from the world and the world listens to them. We are from God. He who knows God listens to us. He was not from God does not listen to us by this. We know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. That's how we know. That's how we know. Al, you said, what about your private conversation with Corey? Did you let him know you were going to do that before you did? No, I didn't. I was not obligated to do that. There's no obligation for me to let Corey know anything. It's public, but I let Corey know publicly two days prior of me doing the yesterday's video, but I'm not obligated to tell anybody anything about videos that I do publicly when they do videos publicly. Make that make sense. Make that make sense. But again, anything else that needs to be said, Al and whoever else is watching this, you can go to my video and you can watch the video. I have questions for Corey Minor. You can go to the other video that I did prior to that one is John MacArthur Christian. And I've addressed all of that there as well, too. But let me just say this. Let me say this as well, too. When it comes to friendship and loyalty, you know, MacArthur talks about in his sermon, Christian loyalty. He says he, you know, he can't stand this loyal people. Well, okay. But I think my wife and I philosophy on loyalty, it must be, I don't know. I mean, only a few people grasp this. So let me help you understand something. We get this from scripture. We don't try to make up philosophies and worldviews and ideologies that we can't find biblical support for it. Okay. So first Corinthians chapter 12 verse 26 says, when one member suffers, we all suffer. When one member is honored, we all honor it. So we're interconnected with it. So that means simply this, what happens to you or what affects you should affect me. What I mean by that? Well, I don't know if you all remember the video that I did. I think was it a week ago when about the Nashville, the Nashville shooting, I think that was the one, was it? I think that was a week ago, wasn't it? And so I did a video. And I didn't matter if I did a live reaction to it. I think I did a live reaction to the, to the, to the Nashville, or was it the one I did on Trump? I think it was the one I did on Trump. Yeah, it was that one, I believe it was that one. Yeah, the one I did on Trump being arrested, being indicted, excuse me, being indicted. And so thank you, Dave. It was a week ago. Yeah, so, so Trump was, was being indicted. And I did a live reaction video to that one. And I'm gonna say this publicly because it happened publicly. It was just me trying to, you know, beat around the bush with it. So Joel Penn, or they call him JP, right? Y'all remember that conversation, that brief conversation that I had? Joel Penn came into the chat. Do y'all remember that? How many of you remember the, remember that dialogue? I'm not, I know probably what you do. Dinah was here at the time when she came on the chat. But Joel Penn, or JP came into the chat, at least from what we thought. But anyway, but it was JP whoever. So he came in, right? And I remember how he had came at Corey, how he came at Corey Minor, how he was going at him, you know, talking all reckless and talking hard against him and all that kind of stuff. I remember all of that. And, and since I remember him publicly making false accusations, yeah, they also had to deal with a fake JP, exactly, exactly. But I remember whether he, whether he was a fake one or the real one, because I have JP's number, but this guy came in. And when I saw, when I saw his, his, his image, when I saw his image in the back of my mind, I remembered the sin. I remember the offense that he committed against my brother. And so he came over here to my channel. And do y'all remember what I said to him? Because supposedly he had wanted to have a quote unquote discussion or wanted to talk with me about one save always saved and all this other kind of stuff. Supposedly if this was a real JP or not, but I'm just, I'm going somewhere with the principal. And so I, so I said to him on the live, and you can check the video. I said, did you make right what you did wrong to Corey? And suppose he said, yes, he did. And, and, you know, supposedly he said he made it. I said, okay, thank you lady. Thank you ladies. Thank you ladies. I said, you asked if he made, that's what I said. Yes. I said, did you make it right with Corey? And that's also what I said. And did you ask Corey for forgiveness? Why did I say that? Because I was privy to a sin that was committed against another brother. And we're family. And that's what family is supposed to do. Why? Because what affects you affects me. And hopefully vice versa. But a lot of people when stuff happens to me, oh, it ain't that two things. They don't want to get involved. This, oh, that's your views. They go and, and you know, I think you need to, you know, why I'm trying to apply a principle. I'm trying to apply a principle that I see in Scripture, that if I bump my toe, or if I hit my finger, my finger and my hand ain't gonna say, well, what you doing? Why, why, why you do that? You just so dumb. You should have known that you should have put your hand over there. It was gonna, that drawer was gonna close. Why you put your hand? It ain't gonna do that. It's gonna go immediately to that hand and apply pressure and comfort to it. Why? Because what affects one affects everything. Why do we not understand that when it comes to sin, when it comes to offense, when it comes to another brother or sister? Because I see it. We see it happening with Eileen Gray. We see it happen with her. We see it happen with everybody that it does not apply to them. And we got to get this right. Now, I brought up JP's name because when I'm privy to a sin, and that's what it was, when I'm privy to a sin against another brother, and I see it and it's on my watch, then I'm responsible to make sure that that is dealt with biblically and dealt with right. Otherwise, you and I can't kick it until you make this right. The mentality that I see with a lot of Christians is, well, that's their problem. No, no, no, that's our problem when it's sin because it affects the body. So when JP did that, I checked him. If that was him or not, but I made it public. Did you make it right with Corey? Did you ask him for forgiveness? Because I was going to double check. But Drayday for Christ goes in Corey's channel and Corey knows what Drayday for Christ did and other people know what Drayday for Christ did to me. Nobody's holding that brother accountable. Nobody's challenging that brother to make right what he did wrong to me, making slanderous videos and lying on me and things like that. Nobody's doing that. And that's my point. That's my point. See, again, this mentality, it ain't just about Eileen Gray, it's about any of us. Nobody's going to Drayday for Christ and say, hey, brother, you need to make right what you did to Brother Seiko because he's dealing with your idol, John MacArthur. And he's calling John MacArthur to account for what he's done to an innocent image bearer and their children. You was cool with Seiko at first. What does Seiko do to you? Nothing. Nobody would have known who Drayday for Christ was if it went for me. And I mean that. That ain't being prideful. That's being factual. Nobody knew who Drayday for Christ was. Nobody. Nobody on these channels. So my point is, why is it that the philosophy, the teaching of body life does not apply to all of us because I'm not going to sit back and let any of my brothers and sisters be sinned against and I know about it and I don't hold them accountable. It's about consistency, ladies and gentlemen. And some of y'all are consistently inconsistent and you need to repent. Simple as that. Simple as that. But again, before we go, Jay Mac in his own words. If a man is in sin and he's not repentant for that sin, then he has no reason. He has no right, I should say, to remain in ministry. Stay by the word of God. Because if you don't apply the word of God to the pastor, if you're selective in applying what the word of God says ever in your ministry, then you give people all kinds of reason to question you when you try to apply it to them or to anybody else. Ladies and gentlemen, that's all I got to say. Like this video. Share this video. Subscribe to the channel. If you have not done so already, please do so before you exit the stream. We do appreciate if you are able to do so. Like support the ministry of finance. You can do that by selecting any of the donation links that are below the video and that is tickered across the screen. 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I hope and pray that you all receive this information and this teaching because we have to think biblical. We have to be thinking biblically. We don't think biblically then there's no sense to us even claiming to be Christians because now we're in rebellion. All right. We need to hold each other accountable, support each other, but any of us veer off. Don't run into a ditch with the person that you're following. Isn't that what Jesus said? A blind man follows another blind man. Both of them fall into the ditch. Same fate awaits both. So know who you're following. Know who you're supporting. It doesn't matter how long they've been in ministry. The standard is the word of God and that's all there is. So anyway, that's my broadcast for tonight. Thank you all so much for your time. You all have a great evening, great day, great week. Till the next time, y'all know the drill. Whatever you do, do all to the glory and out of God. God bless. Thank you for sharing this night. God bless you. 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