 Hi everybody, Lisa Larson here. I'm here with podcast Pete. Hello. Hello, Pete. How are you doing good? How are you doing? You're looking pretty sharp today. Oh, thank you Comfy and comfortable. I think so. It's a t-shirt kind of day Beautiful, beautiful color. Casual kind of day. Thank you. Nice shade. Nazaré from Portugal. So okay And you know what that word means? I don't know what it means. It's a it's a surf spot in Portugal Okay, you aware of it because Portuguese is not my language, but it looks like it has the root To depict birth like, you know, Naciento That would be interesting to find out it Nazaré is where the biggest waves in the world break Surfers go from all over the world to go there. So yeah, I can see how that would Mean your Portuguese people will tell you Okay, well, hopefully so anybody out there that knows Portuguese, please put it in the comments for us Okay, well, welcome to our I think this is our third Uh episode of my podcast Is it the third or is it the fourth? Is it the fourth? Because one we just it's episode four of what we're doing, but it's the third in the series for the book Now I understand now. Okay. I know there was a confusion there because we didn't really hawk the book in the very first one Getting our we were getting our podcast legs Yes, but anyway We're gonna be talking about My series this is part of the series for my book pause talking of course in communication for with animals Thank you very much. I'm not all the way through and I'm loving it Oh, I'm so glad and I hope you guys out there will will love it too Uh, and today we're taking what we're doing in this series is we're just taking some some concepts and topics from the book and talking about them answering some questions and today we're going to be talking about anxiety and PTSD and The title is animals hold trauma too Because animals do they feel all the same things we do so um Yeah, I think you had some some some questions or I do, uh, you know, uh, first of all, you know We we as layman's view animals Uh, especially dogs for instance as protectors First to act first to protect where we as people are more pensive we consider Parameters first and dangers and so we don't really equate ourselves to be on the same part or level with animals Emotionally and so we're surprised when they seem emotional Because we expect them to be to have brevity to have quiet strength and all this and and we don't The last thing we expect is they they that they store Anxiety or or now it's called PTSD. So if you can give us any examples of this Uh, you know, I think that that that the layman like me of the world would probably want to know need to know and Could know for the betterment of relationships with their pets with or with any animals Absolutely Yeah, that's a great point because we don't necessarily usually think of animals as having those kinds of emotions But they do we they have all of the same emotions and fears and love and All of those things they have all of those same things that we do The only difference is they don't express them in the same way that we do We expect them a lot of times to be human, but they're not human. They're animals But they're going to be affected by the same times of the things. I mean abuse Abandonment those types of things they wreak havoc with animals and you know, it's really sad When people look at animals and they just think that they can discard them at will Uh, and now this has happened a lot since the pandemic a lot of people When everything went locked down they went and they Adopted animals And then the minute they went back to work. They just took the animals back to the shelter as if they were A chair or or a computer or a book It's some kind of inanimate object And it's not fair and it's cruel And it's cruel to the animals Because those types of things leave scars And I've said in this podcast before about looking through their eyes and think about what it would be like To be a child to be helpless Because that's what they are. They are children to us. They are they are dependent on us for their food for their health for their security for their home for their love And they get into this space where they think they have that and then all of a sudden somebody just up and Take them to a shelter or even worse. I can't tell you how many animals I've talked to that have just been literally thrown into the trash or thrown onto the side of the road and it's it's enormously cruel and It's enormously depressing and it's enormously depressing for the animals and the same thing I want to bring up horses as well Because horses unlike dogs and cats who live in our home They are bought and sold Like tools You know if they all of a sudden if they can't ride if if they they can no longer carry someone on their back then they're Sent off to be killed or they're sent off someplace else and There have been horses that I've talked to Who have been so traumatized that they don't even know when I say your mom really wants to know how to how to have a relationship with you because Their mom the person that calls me isn't the one that abused them They were abused before they came to that person. Well, your mom really wants to have a relationship with you And they I've had courses to say what's a mom? They don't even they don't even know because they've never had that kind of care or love they've just always been treated as things as property and you know the thing about Animals getting anxiety and PTSD and all of the things that are normal When an animal has been abused or abandoned You know those can be with Rescue animals and bred animals alike. I think a lot of times people think That if they buy an animal from a breeder that they're going to have they're going to be problem-free And there's nothing could be farther from the truth all animals are subject to this and believe me not all breeders Very few breeders are are happy healthy Homes that they grow up in So it's it's very very difficult and they have a very difficult time and Uh, it takes a lot of work. I mean it takes a lot of Communication this first step Is communicating with them and and letting them talk things out Because imagine what it would feel like to be in home With someone that you love and never be able to express to them what you've been through So a lot of what I do when I talk to an animal who has anxiety or PTSD I look at their background. I let them tell me what's happened to them or I look and see psychically what's happened to them So that they feel like their their parents can understand and sometimes just that Understanding helps sometimes it even helps behavioral problems. We talked about behavioral problems last week And sometimes it helps that because they under the just having the parents understand what they've been through Changes the dynamic But a lot of times it's just, you know, people want to be validated. So animals want to be validated too So it's important to let them talk to help them understand and to help them understand that they're never going to experience that kind of abandonment and abuse again So I guess the insight into into building trust is key You know, again as layman We don't think about That as a possibility Other than just being kind You know, not trying to feel maybe Some of the hardships that that animal has experienced So if there's any tips, uh, as far as insights on how We can arrive at maybe a safer Loving peaceful place with them From yeah from just saying hi. How are you? I'm I'm your new owner Uh, I imagine you've been through some hardships and that's it Right, right, right. Yeah, absolutely. I mean when if we have patience and understanding With what they're going through what they've been through Then everything softens You know, because animals are so energetic. They feel our energy They feel what we're thinking they feel what we're experiencing and so To to have us understand what they've been through Really really helps them a lot and then What helps us in that way? It's not getting frustrated because a lot of times That that PTSD or that anxiety may either frustrate us on on a level of just on its own maybe a Separation anxiety so we feel like we can't leave or it may turn into a behavioral problem like we talked about before and so a lot of times if if pet parents Get upset about things and they they allow themselves to get more and more and more upset then The the anxiety raises the behavioral problems raise the PTSD raises and and escalates and then it becomes just a snowball effect But it's all then perspective if it's something that's that's just a small thing Then you have to help them understand or help or help yourself Understand what the anxiety is that may be causing this What is it that's going wrong? You know are they upset that somebody is in the house is his grandma come to stay Recently has there been you have the kids gone off to college There's been a ton. There's can be a ton of different reasons why an animal will get more anxious or Whatever or start acting out from PTSD So it's all in pers if we can keep all of it in perspective and have a patience and an understanding of where it comes from That can help and then of course You know there's communicating through like what I do and there's energy healing and stuff like that But I think the big thing for a person a pet parent to understand is that patience and understanding I had a job traveling and I lived on some property at one point And a large dog came on the property and and just kind of stayed in my patio for a while So I I gave it some of my dinner and I didn't know what else to do and In the morning I was getting ready to get in my car and go to work And the dog was still in the patio. It hadn't left and I figured well, all right, you know, and I I made a leash and I tied it to a post Uh, so that way I decided what I was going to do with it And I really you know, I needed to give to somebody or find a home But I wanted to make sure it was protected and I came home from work that next day and The dog had pulled a screen door off my patio sliding glass door Hold the screen door off and shoot it metal screen door And so I had had a long day at work. I hadn't eaten dinner yet. I was grumpy And I vented And while I was venting Shouting at this animal the dog laid about as flat as is a snake on the patio deck Got as low as it could get and just looked up at me like all right. I I knew I blew it I knew I blew it and I felt so bad But it gave me the impression that that dog had been beaten before that that dog had been physically harmed And you know that body language and so I felt bad, you know, it I had the Humane society come and pick it up and find a home for it But I'll never forget that, uh, you know, because I I went too far You know and you know, we don't know histories of animals, especially Ones that just come and say hello one day Yeah, and he was that desperate that he wanted to be inside with you He didn't want to be tied up He probably had been tied up someplace else that probably triggered a PTSD in him Which would make go through what he needed to be inside with you And you know the the the bad thing is, you know, I mean, I think everybody even the the best animal lovers We've all had experiences that we regret Yeah, we raised our voices or done Done something that we regret and because now we understand more we wouldn't ever do that again, but we still Depth of our soul. We think they should know what we think they should know Yes Yes, exactly. And yet we're the ones that have to Work on the knowing end of it Exactly because they're just innocent Beings trying to tell us that they love us Tell us what they need, you know, they just don't know how else to tell us what they need Yeah, yeah, they're There are a lot of ways that that you can deal with this and and that's a great example of of just Looking through their eyes And uh, like I say if you guys out there you have animals that have anxiety PTSD definitely, you know, there's there's the option of having them, you know, calling me or another communicator and and having them spoken to so that they have an opportunity to express themselves or Do some energy healing I do reiki. There's other people that do other types and modalities I do reiki and shamanic healing other other people have other modalities But there's a lot of things that you can do It's it's not it's not a lost cause they can get better It's just that we have to help them get better and we have we have to start with ourselves We have to start with allowing them to trust us. Yeah, I'm sure with your teachings And I didn't know they these teachings existed at one point Uh, even though I've known you for years, I'm sure with your teachings These kinds of things can be not only avoided but, um Turn into opportunities where A better experience for both the animal and the person can happen Yes, that's our hope. That's our hope in doing this. Isn't it? Yeah, it is. I hope in doing this All right Well, I think we're getting did you have did you have a Pete's ponderings or was that your Pete's ponderings? My Pete's ponderings involved the fact that You know, I just don't I've never had the lifestyle to really I like to come and go and so I don't I don't really want to abandon pets And yet I come into contact with pets all the time. It just seems like everybody I know Has a pet either a cat or or a dog and I and I enjoy pets Uh as far as encountering them and so, you know There's a lot of times that I'm communicating well and finally with my friends and my relatives And then the pet comes along and we're out of things to say so to speak because they don't exist yet So that's my pondering. Uh, it would be nice to really have a feel And an understanding and a grasp And and maybe an experience that's deeper than You know, hello, let me pet your head. This is about the best I can do right now But that's but that's really good. That's a really good point though and that is I wish more people would Be like you in considering that And being altruistic in that way because you're thinking more about the animal than you are yourself. Look Having any being a pet guardian an animal guardian Being an animal mom an animal dad It it comes with its upsides and its downsides. It's it's it comes with certain responsibilities I mean, it's the reason why I don't have a dog because I know as much as I love dogs I know that I would not be the person that would be going out and Throwing frisbees on the beach and walking them all the time So I give up that joy of having a dog because I know that it wouldn't be fair to the dog You're you don't have an animal right now because your lifestyle doesn't doesn't Equate to that right now and it wouldn't be fair to an animal But unfortunately there are too many people who do get animals when their lifestyles do not Afford them I do and then the animals suffer for it. I do have a confession A friend of mine came to visit me on the property and brought her great dame And the great dame was very disciplined because that's how my friend insisted the dog be Sit when I tell you to sit behave when I tell you to behave The woman's only five foot three. The dog is half her size already. So okay, I can understand some some road rules And so my friend says well, I'm going to take a shower Don't let the dog run Well, I've got 8.3 acres Of nice hilly property and the dog's looking out the window and looking back at me like I'm going to love it when she goes in that shower and I'm looking back at that dog saying Don't get me in trouble. I'm going to let you out. But be cool And the minute I opened the door when that shower started going that dog was gone I went, oh my god I'm in trouble now because her dogs were like her children And they're always she always had great dames and I'm thinking well About, you know 10 minutes into the shower. I'm thinking, okay, I got to go find that dog You know, and I look out the window and the dog was just prancing galloping by Like thank you. I'll be back in a few minutes got to go Somehow the dog knew how long the shower existed and was at the door and I let the dog in The dog came in and laid down on the rug And my friend came out and said you smell like weeds Were you out in the weeds and I said well my dear I have 8 acres of weeds. I don't know the weeds So we escaped we escaped a foible and that's my confession And I could just see the dog coming in and looking at you and giving you It's been a good day. It's been a good day Dangerous, I wouldn't I don't try this at home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do not take Do not do not do what peep podcast peep does if that's a great day to have very short hair So none's gonna stick to it You know the dog came in with no evidence other than the smell Stade Well mom knows A mom's nose knows Okay, well you guys thank you for joining us. Thank you Pete. I appreciate it once again I hope this has given you some insight into some of your animals If you are enjoying this podcast, um, please Hit that like button and the subscribe and uh, let us know What other Topics you'd like to hear about and once again if you'd like my book It's pause talking of course and communicating with animals and I'll just say that it's One one more time that it's not just to learn to talk to animals. So I've gotten a lot of feedback uh from people who Read it and have just Learned a lot about animals even though they're they have no intention of communicating in the same way that I do so There's a lot of good information in there. I hope that it will help you and uh, and I hope you guys will come back Thank you, Pete and I will see you hopefully next week. Okay. All right. Thank you all take care. Bye. Bye