 Let's talk one on one, one on one. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy, E-C-E-O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official. Miss Jamaica, what's going on? Not, not any number. They all gone. Man, hey man. We hear a man. Houston, Texas, man. Stand up, man. We in the building, man. Hey man, feel by Miyake? Or Miyake? It's feel by Miyake, but really, Dizzy, that's my name. That's my Dizzy. Like, that's my, my Instagram. It's like Dizzy, Miyake. Miyake is an acronym for music as a culture itself. Damn. That's straight music related. We got it all figured out. Yeah, but this is our second time, pre-sage, y'all. So we personal, so Dizzy is my name. Like, Miyake, that's music business. Yeah. Dizzy, that's my street name. That's hard. So Dizzy, did you get to talk to him? You didn't get to talk to him last time. Yes, I did. A little bit. Not like, you moved out there. We talked a little bit. I did move out the way fast. It was real fast. This nigga is not here today, so we gonna get to talk today. Yeah, and for the record, you know what I'm saying? I appreciate y'all having me last time, but we wasn't even that familiar with each other. Even like, you know, it was a feeling out type thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, okay, so you know, over time you can sit back, analyze it. Oh, okay, this is what, okay. That's what they're about. No, we're just- How we doin' then? It's our bliss. Thank you, man. God is good, man. So just, you definitely open the doors for a lot of people, and I know you like, you humble, like, Al D, Al D, that one for you. Yeah, you humble. Humbly help people through your avenues of the videos and basically just basically came out, came out of prison and started doing this thing with the film and ran into some remarkable people, actually, but only remarkable through the fact of working together with them. Right. So, did you even ever envision doing something like that? Did I ever envision shooting videos? No, like it never was my passion. And it's still not my passion right now. I just know how to do it, you know what I'm saying? But as far as being of assistance to people, you know, I've always been that type of person, you know what I'm saying? I always feel like in life, you're gonna be an asset or a liability. So anybody that I come across, whether it was in prison, school, the streets, whatever, it's like I wanna add something to be an asset. So that's just generally how I am anyway, you know what I'm saying? As far as with the music, honestly, you know, a lot of people say, oh, you put people in position and you did this and you did that. Me, I don't even do it for that. I mean, I look at it as a collaborative effort, you know what I'm saying? It takes two, I'm gonna do my part. Like I know what to do, I'm gonna play my part and I'm gonna need you to do what you do. And if you're doing what you supposed to be doing and I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing, the result should work, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, being one that know the camera's games and really know how to deal with the visuals, how it's a view setting on the camera. And I'm really a camera shot. But I'm a camera shot for a certain reason. Like a lot of people might see a lot of old videos I post on Instagram and stuff and be like, oh, you ain't shot? No, it's me by myself. But when somebody else got the camera, you know, I feel like I think by me shooting so many videos, I really looked at it as like, I look at, it's a lot of being, a lot of faking going on. I don't like acting, you know what I'm saying? You know, when the camera come on, you gotta, y'all know what the fuck going on. It's like, I feel like you kind of got to get into a character, you know what I'm saying? Not really, I don't like being no character, you know what I'm saying? What about your interview last, the last one we done? How did you like it when you watched the whole thing? Honestly, it was cool. Like I said, I feel honest, just being totally honest. I just appreciated being on y'all stuff because seriously, like what I said at the beginning of the last interview, I'd be on the internet all day, you know what I'm saying? So I'm humble and I'm, you're a humble dude, you know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, I'm on a platform and people know what it is. So it's like one of them things, like when I was in Miami, I went to drink champs before like we showed the truth. I went to drink champs with my son, the episode. He shouted me out and everything, but I'm saying like, when I met Nuri, I was like, damn, like this really Nuri, you know what I'm saying? I don't know starstruck shit, but just like, I'm humble to be there. So I just like the experience of just being on some shit that I watch on YouTube anyway, like with the Ayatollah, Pairu and all. I really, I'm told them all. For me, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, I just like being on the actual interview with something like I sound like we was just really that familiar with each other. And at the end of the day, it's all about networking and I know R.D. Aliouk, that situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's cool. But I'm like, we don't know each other. This man don't know me. He just, he doing a solid for one of his people. You know what I'm saying? But you can't turn R.D. down first of all, but second of all, you dope as hell. Like, I interview people all the time from, especially visual, I interview Cam God. I interviewed, who else did I interview? Sean, over in media. I interview, have, fine. Yeah, but I just feel like when you familiar with, I'm not, but I'm from. Is it makes for a better interview? Yeah, I feel like when you familiar with the subject, you know what I'm saying? You know how to approach it. You know what I'm saying? Like all the way because last time was more to me. Introductory. It was more like an interview, getting to know each other. I don't know, man. I think R.D. took over our damn interview to be honest with you. Yeah. He came in and just started just throwing. This is what he does. He come in and just thought throwing stuff everywhere. But he says, but he says that you do it. He did. But if you really know. Those get the interview. But if you really know him, we ain't gonna make this about him. Shout out to R.D. for this thing about you. But if you know him. He not even here and it's gonna happen. But if you know him, he just a great debater. He love it. But that's how you know if he really mess with you though. Yeah, he gonna come at you with that. Yeah, if he not debating with you, he really done mess with you. But the funny thing I love to hear when you talk about all the podcasts that you've been on, because for us, this is what we do and we just know this. So when we- We never been on them. So we've never actually been behind the scenes on a lot of different people's podcasts. So when we hear all these stories about other people's podcasts, that's really good. And they said, yeah, but they do this and they do that. And I'm like, okay, so some people do do it different. Some people do do the same thing. Some people, it helps us to know. What I like about Charles though, like honestly, I'm seeing the elevation fast. And I see myself meaning like my elevation in the film, the videography world, like how it happened for me. You know what I'm saying? Like I was starting off, but I never stopped doing it. And I was doing it every day. Like what's your science? What's your science? Getting content every day. Creating content every day. I was literally shooting videos every day for like five years straight. So with that being said, it's no way but for you to go is up. You know what I'm saying? So I'm seeing like, damn, they elevate this. Looking more professional. What's this? I'm witnessing it personally. And I'm just like, damn. And people don't understand cause I had some young kids here last night. I'm just a young kids is because, you know, they're probably 20 something so far, but I'm older. But, and they wanted to get on a podcast. And I'm like, and I say this all the time, but I guess they appreciated more hearing it face to face. I'm like, a lot of people want to get on this show, but to get on this show, you got to be putting out content just as much as we're putting out content every single day. It don't make no sense for you to come on this show and just benefit from our viewers, but yet we can't benefit from yours because you're not pushing every day. And I'm like, you don't have to be producing music every single day. You just have to be putting up something. Then you got to be striving. You got to be doing something. Talk like they really want to put this work down, but it's a process. You got to get in there. You know that. You just said five years. That's not no easy win, you know what I'm saying? So I just love the fact the way you stay consistent. You know if you're going to make it happen, you got to stay consistent, right? The consistency is important. Consistency breeds champions, man. I want to talk about the young lady Libra, Jolie. Like, how was it again? Like just run me down through there because this girl is different. Like when you hear our music, but the visuals stand out, but she working like I wouldn't look at her like probably like a week ago. I was just looking at all her videos. I'm probably looking, just trying to see just how it run is. I look at different people from Ericka Banks, her, Megan Thee Stallion. I look at Allie the Cardi B's, Nicki Minaj, what stands out to you about her? Honestly, you know what I'm saying? So first of all, shout out to Libra, Jolie. We've been at it for years and years and years. Honestly, what make her stand out, she a true artist. Like, she's really talented. You know what I'm saying? I mean, at the end of the day, you know how they say six sales, you know what I'm saying? So a lot of people, a lot of up-and-coming women artists, a lot of them feeling like they gotta be over-sexualized in their music because that's the way to get on. Just like a lot of young dudes feel like, oh, I gotta have guns in my videos, stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? And six do sell, but you don't have to become a slave to it. She a true artist. She a good ballast, you know what I'm saying? She know how to turn on the sixth appeal when it's time to turn it on. But even if she never spoke about that, I mean, lyrically, like she's talented. She's, and she's passionate about her music. She not doing it to be cool. I feel like the problem with a lot of artists nowadays or a lot of people that's trying to be artists. A lot of people doing it for the wrong reasons. They don't even love music. They not passionate about music. They don't have no love for it at all. It's the cool thing to do, you know what I'm saying? Like when I was growing up, it was people that was in school that want to be athletes. Some people want to be rappers. Some want to be police officers. Some want, you know, different walks of life. Now it's like everybody want to be an Instagram celebrity. You know what I'm saying? She really passionate about the music, you know what I'm saying? If it was no social media, she'd still be doing music, you know what I'm saying? Okay, but you've seen a lot. So, and people compare, you know, compared to seeing Megan the Stallion climb versus seeing Libra Jolie, what's the significant difference or what's the thing that makes them so much alike? Honestly, man, shout out to the Stallion. I work with her briefly too, you know what I'm saying? Before she took off when she was in the little car, like I've seen her, the difference between them, you know what I'm saying? I'm not really one for the comparisons, you know what I'm saying? Honestly, I feel like a problem with black culture, honestly, is always a comparison. I said in one of my songs before I said, I ain't got to put a man down to uplift myself, you know what I'm saying? So if I be like, man, I fuck with Boss Talk one-on-one, that shit doesn't mean I was worth a game. I don't got to say that. I could just say I like Boss Talk. You can like both of them. I like both. So the difference between them, Libra Jolie literally has been doing it longer. Like she's been doing it. Like she's been making music for a very, very, very, very long time. Like she used to be like a heart, like a rapper, like you know, like Diamond Crom, I've been like, look, if you're beating people up, that's what her music used to be about. It wasn't no type of sexual stuff. It was, I'm gonna beat a bitch up, you know what I'm saying? She been doing it. You know what I'm saying? You can see the story and you can hear the passion in her music. That's why I sell Versatile. When you go look at some of her videos, like if you go look at a song, she got a song called Day One. It's a real lyrical song like about her Day One, somebody that died, somebody that got locked up, got a life sentence. Then she got, talk my ish and she got, you know, she's the variety of music. You know what I'm saying? I feel like she's real versatile. That's the difference between her and a lot of women artists, you know what I'm saying? Is she finally getting her just due? She just signed in a scope. Shout out to her. Shout out to Barry Lampa, pushing a deal through and she grinding right now. Yeah, so how different is it when you're working with an artist when they sign to a major? Like it's very different, you know what I'm saying? If you don't have to understand it in the game, sometimes people love to say people turn Hollywood. But a lot of people don't understand when you dealing with these million dollar corporations and stuff like that. I mean, it's a lot of guidelines and stuff you gotta follow, you know? You might sign something that prevents you from doing really what you wanna do. You know, right now you're not signed, you can go do whatever you wanna do. Like I'm up here doing this interview. I didn't have to sign off with nobody to do this. But let's say if I was signed to a major label, it's a possibility that, hey, anytime I'm talking in front of a mic or a camera, it gotta get clearance. Because now I'm representing a brand that's some way bigger to me, you know what I'm saying? So that's the biggest difference and that's why art is not to cut you off, but that's why a lot of artists have to pay attention to what you sign. Because let's say if you invested in me, you was like, hey, I wanna invest in film by Miyake. You put $50,000 behind me, you know? The next thing you know, I go off to Hollywood and Universal Studios wanna sign me as some type of whatever exclusive for them. They don't know nothing about you. And I might sign something to XU out the picture and you didn't invest the $50,000 in me. That's crazy. You know what I'm saying? But that's kinda the way, you know, and I hate to bring Carl up again, but Carl, that's kinda what he explained it to me. Like a deal was done on top of a deal when he was dealing with his situation. You know, that's something that can be done, but is it something that happens a lot too? Well, I'm gonna tell you the truth, you know what I mean? Shout out to Carl Crawford. I know Carl Crawford personally. You know what I'm saying? We've done business and I can honestly say personally, all the business that we've done was good business. Good business? Every time. Really? Yeah, Carl Crawford is the thing. He took anybody that's invested in somebody, it's not just Carl Crawford. Anytime you invest in somebody, you're taking the risk. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Whether it could be a small risk, let's say you just say, I'm gonna go to this professional studio and cost $300. You invest your $300 into my studio time. That song might not never pop. You lost $300. You could have spent that $300 taking your wife out to eat with your kids, whatever, you know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, when somebody make an investment into something, they're taking the risk, you know what I'm saying? And so no matter how big or small, I want a lot of artists, you know what I'm saying? No artists in particular. But I'm gonna say this, shout out to Carl Crawford because a lot of people like to bash him and say, oh, he only tried to get somebody $10,000 in this. $10,000. Well, show me your $10,000 since there ain't nothing. See, this will happen with a lot of people, you know what I'm saying? A lot of artists get it twisted. You will meet somebody, you will meet somebody when they at the bottom and don't have nothing. And when you don't have nothing, you're real humble. Yeah. Then when you get something, you forget when you didn't have nothing. No, that's real. You know what I mean? So when you think about just all of the people that when they do get in these situations and these big major labels decide to come and do whatever, a solid gonna keep us real, but he gonna stay solid with the situation that he formerly was with if he was happy in it, right? That's why the music business is the music business. See, you talking in street terminology. See, in the streets, your word means something. Yeah. You tell somebody you're gonna do something, you're gonna do it. I'm gonna keep it this. I'm gonna keep it real. When you're in the music business, you're gonna learn that you're gonna understand that it's the music business. You can think somebody gonna keep it a certain way with you until the money come. Everybody humble to the money come. Money is a magnifying glass and this is gonna show you exactly what somebody really is. A lot of people can't be who they truthfully wanna be because they can't afford to do it. But when the money come, you're gonna be able to do exactly what you wanna do. And that's when you're gonna see somebody true character. So like I said, a lot of artists be in positions where they humble because they broke. And then when they get something, they forget them days. Yeah. Let's say I ain't got no car. You decide, okay, I'm gonna give you this 2005 Impala. You ain't got no car, you happy. They say, you know, you run it up, now you in a Lamborghini. And now you saying shit like, man, you gave me that old ass Impala, I can buy 10 of them now. But you ain't had nothing. That's real. Well, working with Trey, like doing the visuals with him or whatnot, how hard is that to work with these different artists on their vision, especially the, and I'm talking about the seasons versus the ones that are not seasoned who really, like you have to kind of feel people out when you work with them, right? Like if this guy knows and he's been doing it a long time, you have to respect him for what he know. Or he might just say, he might be the type of person like KLC told me. K.O. with Masterpiece said, when Snoop Dogg came into the studio, he had, he was waiting on him to do his thing cause he had been with Dr. Dre, but now he was over here with no limit. And he basically was waiting on him to see what he was going to do or how he was going to rap. But he told K.O. Hey man, you got to tell me what you want me to do. So how is it working with a season versus working with somebody who don't, who hadn't really been in it long? I mean, anybody that I work with, I try to just come at it from a standpoint of like, respect what I do, like I respect what you do. You know what I'm saying? It's like, if you go to one of the best, your favorite restaurant or something, you're not going to really tell them how to cook the food. You know what I'm saying? You're going to trust that they know how to cook it already. That's why you're going to spend your money. That's why you pulled up. Yeah, so if you come to spend your money with me, I feel like you already kind of know what I do. You know what I mean? I don't mind you giving me your idea so I can try my best to bring your idea to life. You know what I'm saying? But I ain't really into micromanaging. Oh, that's real. You know what I'm saying? So it's real smooth pretty much most of the time. You know what I'm saying? Like when you dealing with season, people, they're going to come with their idea already kind of mapped out. You know what I'm saying? But no, they got a little something that y'all call it when they do the video is something y'all call it. Y'all call it something. A treatment. Treatment. That's it. Like, like do they, do everybody come with a treatment? No, a lot of people don't come with a treatment. The way video shot nowadays, you know what I'm saying? It's a lot of running, gun, freestyling. But if you are in a situation where you got a treatment, it really makes it a little easier for you because all you got to do is just follow the treatment. Yeah, but is it a case where sometimes people want to be shot with the red? You have to go rent the red or you have, I wouldn't buy it. If you are up and coming already, you probably can't even afford to rent it if you up and coming, you know what I'm saying? But you do have to rent it. It's cool, but I mean, the end of the music business has changed so much that you can pull off that same look with way less nowadays. It's the same thing I was saying when I came to Dallas in the beginning of you, y'all. It's like back in the day when you see them drone shots on New Jack City and stuff, they had that camera on the helicopter. Now you can go to the best buying, just buy a drone for a couple of hundred. So technology has changed and made everything more convenient. What's the furthest place you've went away to shoot a video for somebody? I've been everywhere as far as in the United States, like back in Detroit, I'd be going back home. I gotta get up there, man, I gotta get a view. But all over the, anywhere in the United States I'd probably decide. You gonna plug me in with some people in New York? I mean, in Detroit? Yeah, for sure. Because I'm gonna go up there. I know street law at Rook, that's all I know. Yeah, but if that's the case, you need to, if you know him, you need to tell him to tap you in the street law of Warn. Yeah, he, yeah. Yeah, that'd be a crazy interview. Really? See, I don't know that. Warn was one of the first people on the internet, you know, he went to the fish, you know what I'm saying? He showed a million dollars cash just back in the day, though, you know what I'm saying? Like literally, he was really, yeah, he wanted a Warn. I'm gonna get with you when I get ready to go, cause he already invited me. We been talking, he'll be here the next month. So he was like, man, you, cause I told him I was coming, you live, I say something, I'm gonna do it. So I gotta get up there, probably, Warn, Warn been tapped in though, cause his street law, Warn been tapped in. Like he used to be messing with short dog that would sign the young money, but they was messing around back in the day. That's hard, man. So who would you like to, what's the next move for you? You know, like I gotta ask that, like, like you, you know, 2023 is coming up. I pre-plan a lot. And you know, my next move will be, I'm trying to get these clips going, you know, where I get my skits going. That's my next, I wanted it to be the biggest thing I do next year. What's next year for you? What's big that you want to deal with? Man, like I was telling you yesterday when we was talking, I really want to transition. Yeah, serious about that. You too dope individuals, bro. I don't know. No, but it ain't that I'm not gonna be doing visuals, the more it's just expanding the creativity and just understanding that it's way more to do than rap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Well, you said you didn't want to do, when I was talking about, you said you like weddings, but you didn't want to do movies, or you do want to move movies? Well, not in Texas, not in a movie. Oh, where you wanted to move movies at? No, I'm saying, like, I'm saying, like, here I feel like, you know what I'm saying? Like, division ain't that far collectively, you know what I'm saying? To make it go smooth, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you watch a lot of the Detroit movies and you say, like, I know they'll move, I feel like, should I, like, plug love, 211 and all that type of shit. Like, everybody got vision and just understanding. I hear everybody one other, you try to get it motherfucking to do a movie. It can't happen, because it happens, you know what I'm saying? But it's harder, you know what I'm saying? Because of the vision, but my thing is, like I say, just expanding, just going into another round with that camera. Because it's so much you can do with a camera, you don't gotta be in the motherfucking trap all day. You told me about shooting flat, nigga. I did learn that on YouTube, nigga, I shoot flat on everything, and then I pretty much do everything in post, nigga. I do not do, like, no color correcting before I put my stuff out, you know? I mean, you know, before I shoot it. I think that's the way I learned it now. But I did start off putting color in it, but I'm like, I can't take it back out. If I wanna change, I can't change it, you know what I'm saying? So, when you first started, did you go to school for it, or did you just, a lot of hands on, or did you watch videos? YouTube university. Everything for me is straight hands on, and like she said, YouTube. I really never thought about shooting a video. After I came from prison, literally, I'm rapping, and then I start shooting my own shit. And just, like I said, YouTube university. Wow, I gotta ask you about shooting videos and just the danger that comes with a lot of the hip hop. And it comes everywhere, so it ain't just hip hop, but this is the thing. Takeoff gets killed here in Houston. You out here working with different artists all the time. Conflict is in the air. Do you move different, or do you still move the same? It has nothing to do with me. I'm gonna do me. I feel like whatever you're doing in life, you gotta be conscious in the way or wherever you at. So I'm just like that naturally, you know what I'm saying, as far as assessing the situation. Sometimes stuff avoidable, if you just pay attention. You know what I'm saying? You can't avoid the inevitable. Whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen. But at the same time, you do gotta be conscious about who you're dealing with and what's going on. Because like you say, it do be active stuff going on. And you just blindly going to a location and don't know where you at. Don't know the people that you're feeling be dealing with, anything can happen. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people have lost their life. A couple of videographers lost their life at video shoots. Carter Strait will have had nothing to do with them. That's right. So you had Hal Payne saying he got robbed at a video shoot. He was just shooting a video. What about like PMB Rock, he comes out. He says, you know, that could never happen to me. Then you look around and it does happen. Like what do you think about like the talk and the way that people moving and the energy they bring when you do a video shoot? So you said the key word, energy. A lot of people put a lot of stuff out there into the universe. And as soon as they come back to it, everybody be surprised. The power of the tongue is really real. It's really real. You know what I'm saying? Thoughts are things like what you really speak and what you really think really gonna be a reality if you do. So you know a lot of people be, I wish a nigga would or I don't go or a nigga touch my chain. A nigga don't touch your chain. But you know what I'm saying? What I'm really saying is that like some stuff is unavoidable but a lot of stuff is the energy that you put in out. You did what I'm saying? And that's what I meant by expanded my brain. You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day I've tried 1500 videos with guns in it. It's like, it's more than that. Do you, when you go to LA or wherever do you check in or figure out who was? I'm being real. I gotta ask this question. I don't got no problem with that check in word. I feel like people really, people understand and it's so bad that like they feel like it's something weak about that. But what I'm saying is this, like you from what you out here right now but you in Houston, you don't know nobody out here. So when you come out here you wanna link with people that you know. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm saying this, I'm a feeling. So what I'm saying wherever I go obviously I ain't flying with no gun. I'm saying if I know I'm finna go to New Orleans and some shit like that and I got my people out there I'm finna hit them. At least give me a gun or something like that. What I'm saying is there ain't nothing wrong with that. And if anybody feel like something wrong with tapping in with people that you fuck with, you crazy. So it's the word. It's the word. It's the word. It's the word. It's the word. When you think about Jamaica, I would always say if you go into Jamaica and you're a tourist, stay in the tourist area unless you know somebody who knows somebody in certain areas then you can, yeah then you definitely gotta check in with that person and make sure you're with that person. You don't even go nowhere without that person. Because people know that person and know that okay I'm not gonna mess with this person because they're aligned with XYZ. It's just the terminology. It's the word. You're gonna see it. And that's why you gotta be careful with the internet. That's why I don't really be on the internet like that no more. Because it's like the internet people are so dumb you say one thing, motherfuck it don't even read. They just heard one thing you said and they gonna go off with it. And it's like you can't beat the internet. When I first said PNB Rockhead got killed it was like he dropped his location and all kinds of his girl dropped her location and he went on live and it's like damn now I'm getting you here at the end that somebody said that allegedly it was just some dudes that were sitting outside that they looking for this. You know what I'm saying? If you wasn't there you really don't even know what happened. You don't know what's going on. So have a passionate opinion about some shit that you don't know about this retard. They on there doing it every day. Not for sure. That's what they do. You'll lose your mind getting caught up to that. Yeah. Okay. I'm just, I'm checking on her cause she look very concerned about your work. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just, man, like I said, I definitely I came down here to H-Town, man. I wanted to get down with you again. I appreciate the love, man. The pictures you sent me, man. I looked at them. I'm icy nigga, I'm opposed to my old nigga. Yeah, nigga, I come through real fresh. You know what I did? I came here over there with Bubba Dub. Nigga, I was fresh and doing my thing. And I just appreciate you cause you write like a lot of times because we doing this so much, we don't have, I don't bring behind the scene people, first of all. And that's a mistake of mine sometime, but I be just spending time with the wife. So I ain't trippin' on it, but at the end of the day, if I want it, we have it. You know what I mean? But to have you come through and hook a nigga up like that. And you know, that's what I'm talking about, man. My man's relationships. That's real. You gotta learn how to value relationships. I definitely do. Everything about money. Everything about money, you know what I'm saying? Cause there's always another dollar to get. You know what I'm saying? You don't run across a lot of genuine people. So I wanna link with some genuine people. I appreciate them cause there's way more fraud, motherfuckers in the world than real people. Okay. And I gotta get back to Tray cause I did bring him up, but just the fact of doing the visuals with him and going down, like you said, going to drink champs or whatever. And just that whole movement. How did you and him even start to, you know, you know, rock out like that? That was years ago through somebody that I know in the streets. We wasn't even doing no music business together at the time. You know what I'm saying? Years later, we linked up, did one thing and just kept it going. That's hard. Yeah. Like I said, I'm looking forward to them videos. Al D, let's give him a shout out again, because we're not doing it, we're not doing it. Yeah, I gotta talk about the video, the video that he showed me up behind the scene on the other day that I don't think y'all lunch at. But just working and doing the visual with him. Are you talking about little Kiki? Yeah, the one with little Kiki. And the first one you did with little Kiki. Like, how was the process of that? Is it easy when it's a veteran or is it real smooth? Man, it's the type of venture. Somebody like Kiki that been in the game for over 25 years, he pretty much let you do what you do. You know what I'm saying? Trust the process. You know what I'm saying? He trust the process. Wow. Period. He got enough money to do whatever he wanna deal with. So he did it with me, because he liked what I do. Wow. So he just let me do it with me, for sure. Like I said, you one of those guys that I feel like when I wanna see a hot video down here, or if I'm talking to somebody like I did at Yonster Cross the street from my house, I'm like, you need to go down and then get with him by Miyagi, man. I say- Miyagi. Y'all leave me alone, man, I'm sorry. Y'all ain't trippin', bro. They say, wrong Miyagi. You want me to say Kiki? Wrong Miyagi, but whatever. Kiki, y'all wrong, because you know I'm country. But anyway, when I tell them that, they go look it up and they be excited. Like they see the work, man. Like the drone, I can't even, I got drones, man, but I can't even fly my drone that good. I think people need to get out of that mentality right there, like name chasing, like, you know what I'm saying? I appreciate anybody that rock with my work, but a lot of people see what somebody did for somebody else and feel like it's gonna work for them. Like, oh, I- It's different for everybody. It's different for everybody. I can shoot your video, you get 10 million views. I shoot this person's video, they get 200 views. At the end of the day, you know what I'm saying? Whatever the universe got to store for you is for you. I don't care what you say, man. The video was dope. I see the video these niggas is doing. And I'm going with the nigga who being, if you did such and such, High Boy West. It's still quality, it's crazy. No, quality for show, quality for show, but what I'm saying is that like, you might see, oh, damn, he did this shit for High Boy West, but is you grinding like High Boy West? No, I get it, I get it, but I'm telling you, just because I got that relationship built with him, it might not hit the first time, but I know the quality I'm getting, and I know the doors that he opened in with different people, I'm gonna get a look. That's what I'm looking for. I respect it, I appreciate it. I'm getting that look. No, I respect and appreciate it. I just got it for the record, got to say that, cause a lot of people will literally come to somebody and be like, I want this, this is like going to, yeah, or just going to like a barber or something. I want my hair to look like this. You ain't got that quality of it, just get it up there. No, I get it, man, I get it. Man, thank you so much, man. So how can people get a hold of you if they're trying to link with you to get some work done? See you man in the streets, not fuck with you, man. Nah, you get these in Miyake Five on Instagram, and that's it. You know, you know, you know what I'm saying, I really ain't, I'm expanding the brand. I really, I just appreciate you for looking out, man, for coming through, showing us love, you know, pulling up on us, man, answering the phone whenever I call you, and I just ain't met you. Like you just, you know, you always call me back or I don't say if you can. So, man, thank you so much, man. Man, appreciate the love, man. Yeah, man, it's been another great segment, a Boss Talk 101, where the boss is taught. And we out. You did.