 Welcome to the wash-off on the use of big take-offs. This afternoon we are having a forum on technology and information for the SDGs. As we constantly emphasise the importance of big data and open data, it is equally significant to talk about how to apply open data and big data technologies as support is needed to promote social innovation. You may wonder the connection between social innovation. Social innovation refers to using innovation methods such as using technologies that cross this binary cooperation to find effective solutions to social environmental problems. We hope that social innovation will put faster economic, society, environment and indigenous culture in our work while adhering to the SDGs. Therefore, upon the application, have social innovation underpins and support the SDGs, which we discussed as well. For this afternoon, we are pleased and extremely honoured to invite the speaker today. First, she is Taiwan's very first digital minister in charge of the top digital innovation states, a digital service at the national level. And one, please welcome Minister Audrey Tan. So, yeah, really happy to be here to be here with you for some minutes of the many areas of work I'm doing, the real conversation I think will be in a second. And so, because of that, the people who have not yet looked into the sliding system, like you said, Yeah, I understand the problem. I understand that you are able to manually enter the slide that comes into the SDGs with 200.0.0. So that's a really platform for you. And those are the questions. The most I would like to say is that we have a problem with our extension during the joint extension. So without further ado, I would like to just to introduce a little bit about my way. There's a moderate here, as well, which is going to try to transition the nation. And my solution to the nation will be the fact that with this slide, I think that everybody first wants to show you my office. I'm going to have to see if there's a solution to the nation. I'll be there in a minute. Okay, thank you. So in any case, so this is my office, the solution to the nation. And this is a creation of 2100 solutions around Taiwan. And just by this, I feel this out as created by people working with Down syndrome, this treatment of illnesses. And it turns out that they view the world using the intermagic lens. That is very different from our numeric or visual lens. And the creation that they make during their visual theories and our theories. And one is that they can probably fully, so that people can use this, have a lot of very ancient creative lives. And so at most of this hour, as a minister, I would like to talk to anyone here, anybody who can just visit me here in the digital vision lab and have a real conversation before the events, as long as they agree to have an entire transfer published online. And that's called a medical transparency. And not just humans that visit me. It's also part of the policies. For example, these are self-driving tricycles of the online medical lab. The purpose of this is that your vehicles are PDVs. The great things about these PDVs is that they're very slow, so they don't have a lot of PDVs. We'll also find something like that. And also, it's totally a story of the public property. And that is one key digital civilization. Things that anyone can just look at those tricycles and figure out how to even go into those societal things. And if we go to the input, for example, if you see that funny point on it, like a cycle that's not very friendly to the local people, people can really just look at themselves together and just think about it. Because those people can really easily change you to have two eyes that have big, big eyes that look at you and things like that. And it can very easily fit into the local society. So use the technology. Instead of having this technology dictated what its design uses. And so this runs, I think, very much in tune with our person who designed it, where she was involved in it, to have these videos. She said, before, with democracy, it was kind of a showdown between opposing bodies. But now, democracy must become a better conversation between many different bodies. Because when we see emerging technologies too often, it is, for example, economic people on our website and social security on the other. It's a very normal website environment. And so it's probably more official where like the other ones wrote more between different concerns and ideas. And the other ones, it's obviously becomes more and more difficult in our job. Because here, we cannot just set up an agency out of 5G, EDI, the platform project or whatever, within where an emergency happens. So we can set up the idea of government as a decision maker. We ask a different set of questions. Instead of asking what is there or what is the right decision for everybody, we ask first, what are our common values, this time, our different positions. And even in our values, we deliver innovations that make things better for everyone. As a government, we use more space where social and private sector to experiment, to create solutions. For example, other regulations that are not supposed to be regulated. And so this is, again, a very interesting innovation. I think, of course, you can talk to UK, Europe, on the left, you can have sandbox. The sandbox means that anyone in private sector or social security in the group can ask a board, you can ask, they can take the existing regulation and change the regulation to a different direction, like policy makers do. And they can ask the viewer to experiment with their version of the regulation so that they can make a choice to decide if it actually works better for everyone. And so the government, because of not being able to handle a system that actually provides their authorization of their legislation to support all sorts of different sandboxes. So on a sandbox oriented, anyone can put heads that they want to work with them in this room. So if there are deco or something, they can have an important agreement. And they're all given, like, one year to try out these different modalities on the field journey current rise to the physically received, or things like that. And here we've got one year all the way down. Is that different? It's about the open information, meaning that these are the fails at the end of the year. Why are fails? The most important in the recording is the, you know, the day time, so on. The shift is inside public. So the next innovation that we're going to be saying about, but if they, you know, read the heart of the locality in the things that generally put up, yeah, then after a year, at most two years after this, we put it up to their regulation as a national regulation. And the great thing about it is is that we don't have as policy this, we don't have to regulate something that we don't have for science there. Everybody can see how it is in life for a year before we decide how to regulate it. And any time at the end, we want to leave the apartment and make a law about this issue of technology, and they're even at most three or four years to do so. But while they're doing the task, they either continue to run their business, and so essentially they limit some of how they do it, but that's still illegal. But of course, at the end, computers will still act if they want to fix it. So, of course, my name is Tony, and I have two leaders, Mike Riggs, meaning that, oh, every ministry, every regulation is scared in our sandbox regulation in Taiwan. There's two policies that are not scared to try. You cannot do some of the experiments on water, and you can also, you know, run terrorism. But the other, other than those two, everything is scared. But how do we discover the science of this? Another great thing that I want to understand, we have brought that as human rights. And now we think that anywhere in Taiwan where we don't have access to make this, this, this, this is only my fault. It's my fault. And because of that, we have very affordable 4G. In most of the cities, limited 4G, they have less than 1G. There's always the loss. And so, because of that, any brains in Taiwan can have pretty good product connection that can enable this kind of life here in your conversation. That's a very, very low use of the leisure state policy. And so, because of that, I tour personally around Taiwan for the addition of the rural, you know, rural islands. And so, yeah, let's talk to the local colonists and social enterprises and indigenous families and so on. And to discover the real social needs to fit that with this kind of innovators. But while I do that, these social innovation lines inside me, all the 12 different industries are inside me, but they still each kind of virtual out-of-the-art. So that is not just me who travels. I bring a kind of virtual garage that is a lot of space. And the great thing about this is that quite a many local people may apply a case to a certain area. Some kind of material will say, oh, I have a missile on it. I'm interested in health and well there. I reckon it's like that. But now, they cannot see that and they're literally next to each other. And so, they can actually brainstorm and deliver something. And after, you know, 10, 20 steps as they reach around what they should find. So, they kind of have to be started on a policy-making complex. So, this kind of continuous integration of this kind of local means, again, it gets the virtual information that we were referring to in Taiwan. And any self-driving info or in other words, it's a great one. It's an hour and a half. So, in that case, anyone in Taiwan can very easily build the power in the Shanghai Energy Society and have a 100% experience of how these technologies can be written with the society and so, you know, people will use AI to moderate. And so, this is actually from the very beginning of the technology that we regularly use here in Taiwan. And this is an open-source technology that anyone can close to the silks are on. I think that's very country as well. We have many partnerships with other countries. And it basically shows the avatar of the citizen and their relationship with all of your citizens and their families. And basically, that allows a man because I like traditional intelligence. They are not endless enemies, right? They just spread their values. We have to hold different openings. And so, to run a conversation like this, we use what we call a open-source culture of the citizen data. And in that the same data, the same objective facts, people are then asked what you feel about it. There's no right or wrong about the same fact. And you're okay, but it gives the most important resonance in each other's feelings. They only ask for other reasons. I don't want to stay here anymore. I am sensitive to this. And I am sensitive to this. I am sensitive to this. I am sensitive to this. I am sensitive to this. It's like you are constantly doing things that have a reply button and you don't agree with the statement, the best you can do is do a request with a greet and then share your own reflection trying to meet one's support or your doubts. So, all our design cases such as Polis, such as the email submission platform, which is lighter than you're using now, don't have a reply button, right? So, if you're using the questions on good, it will only, of course, is asking a better question. And so, if there's one takeaway from a slide, so I wanted to read this slide. This slide, I mean, is very significant. It shows that, at the end of each consultation, Polis get a shape like this. If you only would have a problem with an email and do some social media, you would think that this five-day life is the same as the entire society's attention and decision. But actually, even a reflective space like this, if you look at this, how it collected it, that most people agree with their neighbors on most of the things in their time. And we can just calculate this, what we call rough instances into ideas and regulations without getting pulled down by those demands of statements, by those essential ideologies. And so, this is how we do it in relations that face the rough instances that we have yet. This was everybody. And so, all these ideologies are not actually developed by the health government. It is developed by the health government, the zero movement. And this is a movement that I'm a part of. It starts in 2012. And the very beginning, which is the Romanian movement, the Romanian movement, from GZ to UW. And that idea is very simple. For the talent public service, well, science services, and for something that you owe people, which is what you would count, you probably think you owe people something, right? And so, basically, for each government services, that there is this and that, is the mind, or I think they can work the government and do it as similar, or the same service, using the same modified address, which is changing the O to a zero. So, you're going to have to place that in the classroom, but you'll have to discover a search for it. And you can just go to the government website, change the O to a zero, and get into the center, which, you know, is more interactive. It delivers a better experience, like the overall project, the traditionalization of the national project. And people can do real time discussion on each and every true-down part of the budget that they care about. And the green thing about the zero is that all the copyright is really pushed in this public service. So, on the next performance line, but if the government thinks that work is a good one, then we just merge it back, and then we just fabricate, oh, everybody really likes this budget-visualization. So, now we incorporated our national position by one. So, join the GOE, the UW. So, we just merge the zero contribution back to our U.S. position by one. We just have this five million. So, users, how do you think about these people? They're native people. They just get a real conversation based on the actual facts of the API. So, a few of them are the deliverables of the thousands of national and industrial projects. And the great public service can add the public data directly to the citizens' input. So, we just have to fall down by the unique areas, such as, you know, the national and industrialists, that here in Toronto can add their point of view. They don't have to be the gatekeepers between the citizens and public service. And so, I'll just use my last example. This is another zero movement project called the Airbox Project. An Airbox Project, I think, is quite a name, because it is really an extensive IO2 data collection device. Anyone, students also can use less than $100 U.S. dollars to purchase an air quality sensor that measures the air quality of your family and school. But the great thing about this is that it's not just measuring for itself. People contribute to the public history that were otherwise not fortunate. So, that people know that we cannot mutate, change each other's time. And people can trust each other's number to be at least a couple months. And so, this is a science community. Now, at point two thousand points, the projects are national air monitoring facilities. And on many air-like countries, when I told you the future of the project, it's like how can we allow to ask people to challenge their agency. A public project, because if the government is not this different, the citizens aren't the same. Of course, this is a country that trusts their grandfathers. And, at least, I want to be able to get absolutely comfortable with each other. That way, we can all be able to join. And so, we, instead, ask them, what, where did you, our, our, the standards, the kind of industry that talks, maybe this is a science, you cannot answer. But the lamps are out of my state. So, we can install air boxes, like we do the lamps in the industrial areas. Or you can use the fund, too, that they want a sense of, you know, to measure the domestic versus, you know, concentrate air quality devices. But they, you know, actually set up a mission to ask, yeah, how we can use for building, you know, offshore windmills. And so, we can add it to the windmills, like that. So, just by joining the citizen science community, we can do, if you follow it, well, because it's just not a hotbed, anyone can just download it and very easily set up their airbox. And so, this is international, instead of a public, as people, I would say, for both the ICONU community, that basically anything that doesn't have a privacy, so an environment is collected into this real-time API website, that people can just very easily view and make their own terms and system like this. And so, every year, of course, there is an international enterprise, that discounts hundreds of cases from a normal society. And we use projective voting. It's a new voting system that allocates the services from a lot of your comments. For one vote, you spend a lot of comments, two votes, four votes, three votes, nine votes, by the way, projectively increasing. And so, people can very carefully select the cases that you are associated with. Most of the way, in many cases, there's no mention of a co-chair among the three-months process, if you want to co-charge people with things. Each team contains a type of data, actually. They go main lines, and they wait for laterings, where sometimes, actually, all of us take public service. And so, we make sure that these kind of needs ensure that these are those ideas. And like the last year's winner, one of the fundings, used machine learning to report the release very effectively. After three months of waiting for Christmas, they were getting on to do well in some communities, to solve the same problem, to adapt the client change there, to solve the work for the shortage. And so, the first part is when the client change, they don't have any money associated with the price. Instead, they are given a trophy by the President himself, and trophy is a project that we turned on. It was just the image of the President and it was very useful when we were on negotiations. Because it's a same device, there are residential problems. That's no measure of what it takes after the three-months demo of the concept. We're convinced to, after nine more months, to adopt that idea into the funders' service. And part of it, we definitely use the public budget in any regulation that we can adapt. Basically, look into much is the price that we want to deliver on behalf of all the nine cases number one back here. And so, through this, we want to share that when we talk about commission on folks, we're not just solving organizing issues. We're rather, through this data platform, sharing this kind of technologies for collaboration, for listing and so on, with the world. Instead of that, we can achieve the same of those together, and we take that as what we think by counting and counting. And so, just to summarize, my goal as a showman is to primarily focus on the funders, is to think possibility will be reliable to anyone, so people can have a real conversation instead of arguing over a basic fact based on these facts, and to share each other's feelings. And then, we do that with partnerships through the touring, through the second and so on, and we ensure using our regulation that all these things are only information and really accessible for future innovators. And so, my job description is very short, as I mentioned, this is a polling, so I'm reading it to you now, and it goes like this. But with the internet, the things, this may be the internet, the things. But with the virtual reality, this may be the shared reality. But with the machine learning, this may be collaborative with the user experience, this may be about human experience. And with every video that is singular, there's always a reminder of the reality. Thank you. Thanks for the welcome. He's current consultant of the Global Master of Development Practices Centuries at the Earth Institute in Columbia University. Everyone, please welcome Dr. Tom Hortz. Always great to hear from you. I have a slide about green. What are we getting right for? Well, I'm currently on this powerpoint that I will be switching to some websites. Hopefully, I'll be able to do that here, okay? And I'm going to start today by introducing you to this global classroom that I helped in soliciting for the Master of Development Practices program. And then I'm going to take you through some other resources. Please let me know if these are things you're interested in. I'm going to end with one of my favorite case studies of technology that work out the business model context for social innovation. So, every fall, which is about September to December in the United States, during the fall term, the Global Master of Development Practices program, which is now up to about 35 universities worldwide, started in 2008. This is a master program that prepares students to work with policy, work in the field, as practitioners of sustainable development. They wanted to find a way to meet as a network through a classroom atmosphere every week. And for that, they started back in 2008 experimenting with online technologies to create a virtual classroom where everybody could participate. This is the program that I helped facilitate. Here in the next slide you can see is a lot of our guest speakers. Minister O'Reilly right here giving her presentation and then using Slido to engage the class to provide through their discussion. So, we used the Zoom video competency platform, which is a both bandwidth platform that can be used all over the world, even in some far more remote locations in Botswana and Madagascar and elsewhere, to provide a clear connection for everyone. And this is led out of Lehigh University and that won't happen until the day yet. We approached the class as a 13-week semester. We have a different guest speaker every week. And these guest speakers are people like Minister Chang who are leaders in their field who we otherwise would not be able to show themselves either as a classroom or as individuals in groups. So, we bring these people to the forefront. We always serve as Professor Henry Sachs who is the leader in the sustainable development goals. And we bring others like Professor Sachs in every week. We bring these speakers by the pillars approach. We start with three folks who are deep dives into the economics of the world followed by environment, social inclusion, and governance versus capability. And the idea to get these top-notch speakers is to bring them in to make these decentralized applications throughout the network to non-discipline. Here, to show you a little bit more I'm not going to show you all three applications. It was simple. But, just so you know that this website exists, the PowerPoint will be shared with those members who come to use this click on the links. Otherwise, you can go to www.classofthefinancial.com and you'll be redirected to this site. And here you can see our archives of past lectures from both 2018 and 2017. So, that's a thank you. We have Yohan Rancherum who is the leader in the concept, which I'll talk to you more about tomorrow. And we've got Abla and some others throughout the field. And 2018 and some other places. These are all available to you now by just typing in global class from 2018 to that time. You can be redirected into the archive of our previous lecture from previous speakers. So, that's a very global class for itself. This is one example of using technology innovation in a great coordinated discussion and conversation on sustainable development to be massive of development. Here's our lineup for next year. The answers are confirmed and we're still working on some of the others. So, you see again we have this. We've put that through the code of MIT with a different perspective on sustainable development from Professor Sacks. We kind of engage with a lot of discussions. We have a special session from the United Nations General Assembly this year with Dr. David Smith who is out of the University of West Virginia in Jamaica and one of the authors of the Global Sustainable Development for 2019. We were fortunate last year that our students participated in a policy-free discussion to the class where they were able to set the policy degrees for the GSDR coming up. We have Yolande Lachem's partner, Will Steppen, one of his co-authors to be the planetary foundries discussion next year and we're hoping for a time to minister of New Zealand, talk about social inclusion, and congress, young congresswoman from New York talk about governance and sustainable development and again we have Mr. Tang and some others, Mr. Kent Robbins for the education. So these are just some examples of the stages that we have. We have some hopes for changing up the global classroom in the future. I don't think there's going to be details too much right now but we do have issues with time zones. We have along the line, Beijing is trying to work about ten to ten hundred nights in the global classroom when we have universities who can operate in security for five or six a.m. in California at the same time. As interactions so that it's not just the shared kind of conversation but also collaborative environment working together and we hope to open this up to a wider audience of course. You all here are welcome to join at any time at the link. That's a quick overview of just one little resource and actually the main maybe connection for a while here and we'll get up here and I want to talk about some other resources for you. Again, some United Times this is something we've gone to some other places. There's something that the United Nations Sustainable Development and Solutions Network is going to talk more about some of the resources they have for you when it comes to big data or in data. One of the resources is called SQT Academy which is a question of massive open online courses for leading experts on sustainable development topics. Today they have 25 courses where they're working on more to be introduced. They have a variety of some of our instructor days where they're actually going week by week with the instructor and then they have some of these courses which are usually something that you might want to provide and then they also have a category where they write these down I guess. I'm going to click on this in a second and we'll see how that works. They've already reached over 200,000 students from over 100,000 different territories. So let me just bring up here and let's say you know the course list is all 25. So you see this one is human rights and human wrongs it's instructor change which means there's a start date, this week's start date January 14th and then last for a specific time. You can see it addresses these SDGs number 5, gender equality and these institutions and other topics. So you can see how they're divided by those topics. You can also click here and say okay I want to learn about human rights and education. What courses do we have to offer human rights and education when we see water and that's quite tight. So let me pick one that has more courses where it's under there we go. Number 2 has a number of courses where we're speaking on between one and then sample for the system. Both of these are self-tapped. Well this one can start to fit together. So that's all for these courses. I'll burn some directly to your attention. There are some that are specifically related to the SDGs. This is an archive course from Professor Sacks. Here's another course I had to encourage you. Tomorrow when I'm with you for a few hours in the morning we'll be talking a lot about the different challenges that will develop and this course will be about how many of you of those and that's just a very quick overview of the SDGs Academy. As I mentioned, SDGs Academy is part of this management solutions network. How many of you have heard of this SCSN or have worked with that? Okay, so this is a great reason for you that as you go to your own countries and see how you can work for data and monitoring the valuation. Sustainable Development Solutions Network is a partnership between the United Nations and the Secretariat and they have a variety of different projects in the SDGs Academy as one of them. Another one is these 12 thematic networks which varies in deep decarbonization and in health education. The one that's most appropriate for the topic of this workshop is the Matic Research Network Network Data Statistics, also known as TRNs. Those who are looking for ways to help facilitate the use of data of monitoring valuation to achieve the SDGs out of local settings. If you're really intended for folks just like you, they also have 11 solutions in three of these are directly tied to data and money so let me just take you there and see what those are. So here are all of the various types of pathology projects. This is an example of a project where your goal was helping to get our country to neutral carbon by 2050, let's say. You would be enjoying this solution and interested in it. But there are many that are good devoted to data. One is data reconciliation. This may be of interest to the group here. Another is local data action which is open algorithm project. So within those solutions in this way, it's exactly to the topic of this program for which we're all here at this week. Finally, one other category, LBSS they actually, they were formed before the creation of sustainable development goals and they did a lot of the light work to emphasize the importance of monitoring the field having appropriate indicators of which there are 230 indicators in 169 targets, 17 sustainable development goals. So they did a lot of that light work to help decide what they did and how they measured things. So I encourage you to visit this site and here are three different projects within this one subset of the SCS and related data indicators and public review. The first is the kind of the launch paper itself. But it has a lot of useful information for how we got to do what we are with the indicators and with the target. And then here are a couple that are more appropriate perhaps for you all. One is data for development these sets of the DD monitoring and statistical capacity development. And then the final one I'll click on here is mobile partnership for sustainable development data. We're not familiar with this partner spending one here. So this I think will be important for you all. This is a nice community resource for you all part of this to work with. And this is all coming out with sustainable development. And then I link to this in my slide, I link to this Ted talk to you or it might be helpful to you as you try to convince people why you're working for it and why it matters. And there's a Ted talk about data and issues of justice. It's amazing the resources that you just heard about here and try to give you more access to a minimum of 10 per second bandwidth. So and maybe you're done. So that's where this will come from. Finally I'm going to close with a case set. So this is a example of using technology for socialist innovation. And it comes out of where I do a lot of work on the map. And this happens to be actually a for profit model. These are not people who got into this business for the social impact. They got into it for the profit fund. And yet it's an example of innovation and impact. And the challenge that they were trying to solve, I'm going to be a little interactive with you all in the room, was that appearance in my experience. This is the primary challenges in less developed countries of academia. But for those of you who may not be familiar, many rural Africans are now connected to any kind of R3 grid or had access to solar panels or other technologies. So this is where information rely on kerosene fuel for life. So here are some pictures of kids doing their homework by kerosene plant. And while this may not be applicable in the country, I would rather you understand how technology is being used in this way to achieve tremendous impact in the variety of areas. So I'm going to ask this audience here about the technologies from the top of your head. And if you don't remember them by number, I generally will go on top of it. What are they? Where are kerosene uses? Education. It's a big one. Environment is another one. Poverty. Poverty. It may be health. There are some talks about it. Energy is another one. So access to energy is the key challenge here. Education is indirectly affected because it does impact the students who go on to study for a certain time or in a certain level of standard poverty of course. So what's the opportunity here? The opportunity is that to get this kerosene, people are spending about 50 cents a day for the limited amount of kerosene that they're using. Which is actually a pretty significant part of income for a world household. So that means that you can somehow capture this market where people are spending 50 cents a day and replace it with something else and that will be a breakthrough. What do you think is the big technological breakthrough in this scenario? Some of those people don't know. The first thought is that the big technology here is to replace the kerosene with other technologies and solar ventures. And that is true. But that's something in the decades of common where we've had engineers going out in the world trying to find ways to have low-region of people access something like a solar venture and all kinds of distribution. The real technology here that made this possible to work and the reason why this happens to India and not somewhere else or where the study grows or the place. The real technology will bring you to mobile money which is the ability to send money cheaply and easily from something that's basic as a quick phone which I probably wouldn't be something in an afternoon. And then the electronic technology is actually reactivating the functioning of a lantern or a solar chamber. So if they're mobile money payment. And without these, it's very hard to capture the funds. It's very expensive to capture the fact that people pay 50 cents a day with kerosene. Why don't they just invest in solar ventures? Well, they don't have that. They don't have that money. That's the definition of being poor up front. And it's harder to enforce than to collect the 50 cents a day. Unless you have a way to do it costly, costly spending for a mobile money payment. And then, if they keep all of it they're not paid to switch the system off costly spending for people that are cheaply. And this is what they do around COVA. So COVA actually is too far off in some theories. But even this company emphasizes that this is a credit access challenge. More than it is any other type of technology. Challenge is not worth the technology a long before the solar panel would be cheaply accessible and affordable and reliable. But so here's what it looks like with the system of place. It's a regular basic lamp system that COVA distributes and they collect money by those people who were paying 50 cents a day with kerosene sales for now a mobile money account. And then COVA just shuts it off. And then when they do pay, they shut that off. So it's not up to them. Here is the impact that this small and growing innovation technological innovation has had on social and environmental impact. This is as of last January. So in the years growing even more, I know although I don't have the figures. Over 600,000 homes have solar power. When you think of the NGOs out there that are trying to distribute solar energy to the chemical mass, these are actually within 4,000. 600,000 connected to affordable solar power they've saved money because once they own the system, they own the system, they don't want to pay that money. Those households who are estimated to save $50 million over 4 years save 75 million hours of kerosene-free lighting 780,000 times the amount of COVA that they produce 25-dollars a day. In addition, we have many of my friends who are biologically new. Some of you are working with cell phone data that needs to flood the information. They're able to offer these U.S. credits for how reliable they are as repairs. This gives them a further light up in the current system and they also are collecting local solar energy. Very similar to the air monitors. They're able to go household-to-housel to say how much solar radiation there is is very important for our insurance on a very micro-scale for farmers insurance. Then they're able to leverage the fact that you can shut off the electricity at any time if you want to pay to give you access to things that we can shut off by bicycles, coach those smart phones or other things we can shut off. These are new products that they have a way of turning off the power and exposing those people if they need help to some kind of challenge. Here's the household they've got the light they've got the TV they've got the radio and they're just trying to turn it off. So this company if you can do a proper model to do this I'm not going to go into the business model today, maybe tomorrow but so that's an example that I just wanted to share with you for my own work. Since I will be with you tomorrow and will it be helpful for me if I can have an answer to your question it's somehow over the next couple of hours from you what indicators are most relevant to your own work or whether your own challenge is related to this kind of information. For example what you already have funding access to or what you need better access to or you just sign up. That's something we keep in mind. Conversing over the next hour we will be having speakers. Right now we are moving out to our presentation I believe that you guys presented the last week you visited the Ministry of Industry that we applied to, right? So we use this language as well. So I want to for the viewers who is on live stream with us and you are more than welcome to join us for the discussion at home. But apart from using Slido you may raise your hand and raise the question in a traditional way if that's helpful. That's an interesting question because nobody has any likes. So remember you should be liking different questions so that we'll run you and you won't be here for those of you who didn't submit a question right in front of you. And raising your hand always makes my heart feel like it's on is anyone or do we just oh, you're on. So somewhat appropriately the first most like question is what are the sales to prevent hijacking of those. So in the case of Slido we're going to be answering all the questions and so there's no hesitation. But in terms of the residential and of course there is a there's a dependency it's basically anyone must take a box that says I have a residency and then we use two factor one is the SMS and the other is the email application and you have to have all of those different applications where you get a program that you are participating in and you can send it to the board but if someone tries to register so but of course again the mining color is not that much if the mining color is a lot of different and you actually have to use the national citizen it's our national I think at the moment we're as maybe like 20 something percent almost 30 percent around 24 people have a they have to use that for the signatures they're starting next year which allows them to know as part of the national ID card so then we do the fact that majority of the citizens have access to DKI cards just like I said and there's a question about you guys I don't know how many people started yet we had a problem like 90 percent of the world and we may have heard what were they called in Tesla for longer cycles so basically they just wrote out actually the world was free and considering one another I would have much time to write on computers but it is pretty attractive after all the other necessities and like there are several programs each of those old electric trains for 170 and scooters is I think just a thousand and one hundred years which is pretty cheap and there's a free swath of battery I think this is very common it's also important to see what the world will actually have in the world the issues related to the carbon footprint of the home infrastructure while it mostly uses technologies to add in to other types of energy so whatever all use the same value technologies have so it's time to do the global battery and to do the energy supply chain as well and I don't think it is a problem for us to take an over to have a new government that actually create a positive environmental and social externalities we don't in Taiwan overemphasize the economic problem to the detriment of the environmental and social problems so when they get to almost an economic level we almost always see that they are actually in for good and not just for good in CSI but their core business is because otherwise you know because of the problems created by the governments but anyway yes okay but what are some ideas that work to consider quite a few actually so in Taiwan I prefer to have distributed knowledge of your thing mostly because it describes the actual core value of the technology not the implementation of blocks there is just one same search engine but of course we will continue to work and so we deploy you know whenever there is a general distrust between the pilots open and there is a set of players we don't otherwise trust each other on their partners and so the air quality measurement is a really good example because people would not trust actually each other but if they are actually some of you are comfortable with their national activity but the publishing analysis of America consults about analysis simply because they know that for all the communities that the NCM has they can actually approach the open and new religious members and so any thing that requires accountability we can use your quality and so in my line of work there is quite a few sources of information that use these religious to track the problem over internet so there is a popular social difference which is just like I think which is a but it is very much popular to use it for international aid like this one is and to help the value here and all the nations you can track the actual growth across international boundaries of course they I think they still talk to do the work on those very easily show what is the meaning of where the money flows when it actually reaches and in the end they still see a global trail using professional teaching is great and it is a small story and we still do that but it provides a reliable snapshot and so people can generally say if they fail actually we can reconstruct the money flow and so that is a few more there are many other uses like the idea I think you proposed before you traveled to Taiwan you applied for the job it was right here in Kunshan and they are really smart in Kunshan in the public it is true the budget suggests that it won't be made when they come to Taiwan and have to be on the other Kunshan and in Kunshan and anywhere in Kunshan so the next question so we have a great question how do they charge their phones in the first place the reality is there is usually a site nearby where they can charge their phones so they are actually paying to have their phones charged at a kiosk maybe a thermometer or at their home or maybe a little bullet so the remedies are very basic phones so they go to the kiosk to charge for an hour or more and when they can use it it is a very basic function so they are able to get the system they come to the phone charger and sell a packet of the system at home and then you can see how it becomes a virtual cycle and actually then once you have the system you can start selling your charging for the flight to others but in general it is just a free virtual cycle there is a big income that is going to somewhere but it doesn't go to someone better and providing people with a much higher quality like higher care for living and access especially to these other goods which is one of the real beauties imagine if it was just limited to lighting that would be free but when you can spend time at lighting from other goods by getting some credit for eating and also by that you otherwise wouldn't be all remotely like lighting now you can do that through the lighting I see that people are busy signing papers so how can you do better policies that come to college with technology that is critical I think the core thing here is to make sure that the technology is appropriate and the appropriate technology is a very small stretch now but that means it really captures this very innovation that is not necessarily made in the world not when you were in a pilot cabin everywhere it only has to be made in that particular quality that people are so direct on and if we have a kind of policy like this which the system will probably capture everything then we can innovate and still be seeing our common goals and once we have the common goals I think all the regulations are there being for people to to challenge the common goals and common vision for designing such a common key question that might be really bad for us so every time we ride this clever city workshop we always use a kind of designing thing which is going to show you one of our slides but basically this is about our university part and how to digitalize and virtualize that part so then we can be coming to our computer and see whatever you response but it is very important that we understand how it is for other people to think about their interactions with their digital services and then figure out the same how it might be and so actually we ran the consultation to get to the point of how we accelerate the access to the level of health care and insurances regardless of whether they are online or online, remote or in-house countries like that so this is before we actually deliver these and so that way we can assist for example in vendors trying to push facial recognition for us but we can go back to the how my question can come around since nowhere in this come around is really mentioned that the main facial recognition technology certainly is a really tough thing and the first slide is going to the actual quality that we have identified throughout the creation of workshops and that is how we assist the vendors to try to get the country, the states to stand by their side or identify their own gender recognition technology and there was also an incentive knowledge and to say if you have a model of how art is done then you can know that there is only other technology companies and I think that is the kind of probably the next weird word that we need to solve in this state how we can help technology it's just a name, it's not an M and an M is a common line the society that we like this space that we like to see and contribute to the next so the council and I think it's one of the things that we can try to do whether you're aware of it or not that's the second question they just beat back loose because if technology is changing and we're using that technology how does that work so it's fascinating that you're testing on music or otherwise but I would add to that that the policies that help facilitate innovation themselves might be more constant if the end goal is to bring about creativity to bring about innovation collaboration that policy might change less frequently than the things that come from it and I think the real question of the policy and innovation is one are we creating policies that incentivize innovation towards the real challenges that they develop or are we creating policies that incentivize innovation towards things that are maybe less important we like to take Uber as a target in the United States because the origin story of Uber is relatively well to be of our class in San Francisco we're tired of not being able to get a taxi on a Friday night and that was the origin so we remember that set Uber is going on to transform a lot of lives for better or for worse and then go full over but are we setting up incentives for innovation that are targeting the real challenge that are bringing more people into the conversation which is really the beauty of the word of the minister out there is they're they're not just creating policies for any kind of innovation but they're targeting those innovations towards outcomes that are related to the development and through processes and methodologies that are collaborative that are balanced that point out that we have more in common than we have just the five people at the end who are very confidential about the majority of us so I think don't look confused the policy maybe for the actual technology right, so maybe who would like to know for a non binary issues are I like to select choices from Uber this much I think is best out of the visual so let me just use one of the ongoing that we're just in a moment it is a conversation about connecting local community it's talked to that AIP or even Google digital AIP and ANC as some of you may know is the academicity here in Taiwan and so this is I think an interest in public digital diplomacy where two countries basically let the general for the Romani relationships for different promotions and the first promotion is now as well in the global community and so for example someone said you know should this be we will be working anyway and there's I believe in the one of the issues from the original and you can agree or agree that it's too big and sure and then it's a it's not binary this is more a resonance by saying you agree you're not agreeing or disagreeing it's by it's not basically just agree that which is why we're always designing and instead of just like a those who do this this is an interactive way for people to discover your common voices as well there are of course some consultants like who be except whenever the PRC presents Taiwan in international and on the stage and a doesn't but nevertheless we have a lot of common for the and see the consensus like the US should and also how actually and but but in any case if you look at you see this shape and once you have such number of people the lights and I like just they only have part people you know parts to press like or I like especially before they have like that whatever you like and again we still have but is a just the this actually but for that we welcome to actually actually the current very very I don't know creation and basically is everybody here personally or are for social justice environmental justice and everybody has that you can invest money in some money as well it impacts the global storm and what I want to get at is that the game is shaped in such a way as people are incentivized and then people are starting to realize that they cannot achieve their personal needs individually they have to share data they have to share plan otherwise nobody gets anywhere because people tend to cancel each other out which projects they can start out with the only way to create synergy is to play the game with the current program you have to actually share what you have on the map or everybody on the same table otherwise the game is a no way situation which very much is how it is structured so it is moving less and less so if you have a local community very much it's going to be but at the point here there's that symbol of money and it's going to be fine you know they just design it could be so this is very good thing unfortunately but the reason for this is that it's exchanged for the potential for the fear that they really want to do but it's not the global game but it's kind of being a synergistic scenario that is one of something that does a different thing so you are welcome to do that of course but at the end of the day they have to have a desire so consensus and it's very far actually what you and I have to do and also this is how this game is what we do the police conversations of your community here in each one just when you are on the board conversation but to various parts because this is only what you are going to do the only question that people are actually supported are the MPs more than who their co-members actually think that there is something for everyone and doesn't actually want just to put a symbol of it into the consultation so if you allow people to express more of themselves then you are not going to have this the natural peer pressure and social settings is the one where the encourage people to share more of this and more of that and so so I believe the estimate here is approximately currently global product which is a global product so we are talking somewhere around $14 I am just going to get a pair to take you back to the sustainable development solution website and I think we definitely can there is an entire section on that they have been devoted to financing DSPs maybe on what we do now yeah, financing for something on that page I find work where those studies come from and some more specifics around financing for specific countries but I do remember an estimate from Jeff's acting somewhere around one to two percent of a global product to put that a little bit in context the OECD countries the group of the most developed countries have for years been promising a certain amount of domestic assistance sorry foreign assistance for developing countries and they promised on the order of 0.7 to 1% they have not been meeting that target but they have already promised for the least developed country to own on the order of so it's really now much more than we have decided we want to set aside the reality is that the average of 0.2% is actually either again from the richer countries poorer countries now we're asking everyone to be afforded to live in the United States from 0.7 the next one is how do you keep the balance between staples and making the choice that has more social impact and there's commutation the first part is one of the government objectives for involving government decision how the public can go on to be the best in the coalition so again I think both of that is designed the first time the agenda said I think this really is the case all the policy I was sort of saying the initiative that we have rolled out emphasizes equal this stage meaning that it's the stage where the government doesn't know what to do right it's the first time the rate where they haven't even seen the decision the local you know people don't have any contact with the city government that's literally the first initiative and so one of the last initiatives that this one I think it maximizes the engagement but of course we're also currently working out when we're in a savings argument that is to say the implementation the development and the delivery of course we need more expert input it's not just something that every citizen can do but that is why we always do this what we call a different concept at a very middle of it so while we can engage a broad slab of people here and using COVID-19 policies and facilitation to consolidate it on my way we actually engage in different stages of this here and we emphasize not that much on the broad consultation the broad reach or engagement the rather solid collaboratives or partnerships we identify the kind of people in the first place that are willing to collaborate across sectors and they become the value of progress in the data collaboration but they are a climate success a climate success of the original people who participate in the vision setting in the scenario of the climate and things like that but people who participate in the business still feel that this is part of their work they still feel proud that their idea of course has been instrumental really in determining how I do the question it's just that we make the two places very distinct so that people don't actually overemphasize the plot on the same stage or overemphasize the technical experience on the first stage because the first stage is about goals and minds as in the stage there's some disabilities and things like that so like making these two steps really clearing using different technologies for you to start your conversations we make sure that we promise the collective emotions on this one and as well as being able to collaborate on the same concept I think it's the general outline of course this is quickly ascended on probably I don't want to go out that's a general idea so in my country there are several regular projects on the business do you have any experience about business I want? so yeah my first start was in 1996 I was thinking I dropped out of junior high school I told my teacher that all the human knowledge is on the fly well and all my experience was out of date so I really want to drop junior high and just start something parallel and it's a problem why people agree with it it's not very authentic about the flexibility but outside it does have an ecosystem it doesn't reward people who use it in their own style in entrepreneurship for some hope it's not until we have special songs or things that would allow the structural structuring the board so that people can have the power or they want that and so on the traditional way the families so that they retain control of the business and things like that are just similar about the business and so in Taiwan people were first to start companies in Taiwan or in the big new countries to actually get access to the more closely held corporations that I work with and so when we started this public cooperation actually on the very first topic we thought it would be wrong to be more acceptable to the new digital startup in entrepreneurship our second case is about television because Taiwan had a wrong that protects their life but it's very common problem by new television for example women are not specifically wet after 10pm but if you're a television maybe that is really the time and because it was supposed to prevent it was too effective it worked out it was too late but there was an assessment that was wrong and the reason why is that there was really no association of television because there's association of different traits but television is wrong there's no association of people without sorry they're not going to organize to protect their origins and so in traditional politics it's very common for them to organize but because there's online, offline and so on and the reasoning is naturally we won't support even if you don't have any organizations so that people can re-recent their views and their thoughts without having written any views and so actually this comes with the platform which is related now actually we actually very quickly come right and so we actually did do like our companies wrong and are they wrong like that too and we're all passed last year so for more information here this website is maintained by the zero community in Taiwan that controls all their different digital transformation issues and all the law and regulations that we have to do this consultation and throughout that completely equals immigration across different centers non-consensual and all this challenges that is brought by the internet age is down to interest and this kind of platform but yes there's a lot of interest but this is important and there's how to use the feature of web and how the state should act to quality response to the show but I'm wondering if this is a reference to the first one from television, from ancient a lot of it I don't know if someone can add more to the next question actually I also want to ask the last question what are some of the differences between digital the regulatory interest and digital immigration so what is the question for that for anyone so for example I'm an expert from Fujifilm in Taiwan we have so many that restricted in their innovation let's say our company we have exactly the same question we cannot do the challenge thing we cannot do that share different kind of share special share special type of stuff we don't have that also we have a lot of license so most of the time people for example what I graduated from university I came back I was taking a week off in Berkeley just money in pocket and we go back to Thailand can we do that you need $2 million to start and it's just this type of license company laws also maybe the best way and the time they need to but when you're in a room and you have that just mainly my experience from Thailand so then going on to the next question and I actually appreciate the job description for the new minister here where if I'm interpreting this question correctly the emphasis on despite the innovations that they come we can focus on what that does for the bottom line a very narrow set of stakeholders in the short run but maybe not in the long run or we can make sure that we're putting these new technology innovation at the service of people so we might be making choices where we can use automation for artificial intelligence for robotics for example but we choose not to because we recognize that the social negative impacts on all of the stakeholders rather than the narrow set of stakeholders but somehow we feel a period I think that's one kind of example another example is something that's how we test it which is access to some kind of basic universal income this is happening already in the state of Alaska in the United States of America where each resident of Alaska is here at the service and now the money is in the factory so if you live in Alaska you don't pay taxes and that's the shared wealth but it's accumulating from the twist in the street in Alaska and other things and that helps preserve some of these places so they aren't taking over and not sure how to put anything some examples of future of work especially when it comes to singularity and the need of human beings to do so and on that note we're reaching especially in curriculum and just to share with you and part of the curriculum and so our new curriculum which is going to go out of this office basically shifts from a traditional more skill-based education mindset which is very common in this region to a well-cooked character-based mindset and what do we think about that it is three things action and that is a common good so what we are basically saying is that previously the education system emphasizes more building specific skills and competing among individuals so that people feel that they still have particular skills but this is essentially very dangerous because so yes, now they're lying we don't know whether these skills will be developed and if they are relevant to maybe the future and so people who over at identify, how do they play risk, rules and regulations after you've done this because they over-identify with the particular set of these skills but these needs to be developed and without the ability to deal with them they would basically be that they were cheated by the curriculum and the minds as a curriculum is on that I'm not going to do that so the curriculum basically says if everything is internal you and then you use this capacity to be setting your own development terms using your preferred system of your own roles and actually what kind of futures the system of your environment wants then we can enroll them into the team of people who actually want to solve their common questions by themselves and so instead of raising an icon of specific checks on particular skills you're actually turning around and running to what it does come on global roles and just win on the starting point and so because of that it's a different set of thinking about excellence but it's fine that they finish and they do go into education basically they can enroll them into university but they can enroll them into university now talent is a very popular program from the university social responsibility from the USR where they continue to chance school credits while fixing a particular environment for a social issue locally and in that period students will be enrolled and so what we're saying is that if the student builds their students and their students actualization based on their common good then they don't actually risk losing their dignity or cultivation costs they would think those AIS are just assistive emotions that assist them in delivering on those common values but if they overact in the final when we go to a class or when we go to a school then they actually use the main path to look at a systematic holistic vision of the society and environments and find a ways where the machine can actually do a better job in students but because they were overactive that was difficult for the students and risk the loss of those positions that they're associated with so I think the education design right would replace the generation who were not afraid of automation because they all had answers to problems during their primary education and so it's just like the technology of fire they used to think that fire is very possible it creates the motivation then also then you can slide just like AIS it destroys the whole city so we don't do the safety issues right but the civilization we can mention of fire not through restricting the fire to a specific set of narrow stakeholders whether we do this fire democratize the fire but each member of the group along with all the health issues and hazards, whatever and so we get everybody understanding that they can use an air box to become a people's viewer how does it feel to be a data operator it would then ask the right questions to the global and basically become the truth in a way that prepares them for whatever see you next week at the bottom of the page I'm going to clarify that for you I think I'll read some of that so I think I'm going to review a little bit what I said about policy versus innovation and I'm going to apply it here to curriculum the curriculum maybe it's going to become less of one that is teaching specific skill sets in terms of how to code or how to direct your own pet to be required in some way it might become more of a curriculum about how to be innovative how to be creative and less about the specific types of skill sets maybe more about the mind sets that's going to happen I'm going to add questions at the start there's this claimer for people from public sector you should not be thinking differently about innovation because in the private sector the role that Chang is filling is in store handling innovation is what they're doing but just the idea alone I think it's kind of good to emphasize that's an example of innovation but I didn't explain either this or that maybe we'll get it tomorrow that's generally used for people to start thinking about startups and store profit ventures are very much necessary and not profit so there's a perfect word there's an only difference between usually a government service and a private service the government is providing a good that cannot be provided by for some other reason that we need to go ahead and level over the need for innovation but I just want to make sure that your mindsets are thinking of yourself somehow so I think that this model of canvas is very useful in analyzing policies as well and the only difference is that just as you have observed for many of the government service there really is no alternative so we have to make in mind the kind of structural issues this is going to create whereas in the private sector the user can just push to understand that the user is interested being done with them or a system in which the social justice part may be too much higher compared to the private sector but otherwise there is a lot and so my theory of change actually is very simple in public sector we usually don't know if it is by reasons plus we want to raise the efficiency of a policy of service and we will want to lower the cost and increase the efficiency and the same thing is what we want to reduce the risk it could be a risk of a meltdown of the industry but it can also be a systemic risk for the design and as public sector would say he provided that block that he has a design he would absorb and that is our second inclusion to this communication of course it is our personal it is credit for the great work that we have done and the problem with a kind of ministerable position is that too often do I don't do anything special usually I get audited and things go wrong and the public sector gets audited and things go wrong and it is very unfair and which is my aspect is great cultural transparency so I just want to encourage you to think about cultural transparency but what I have discovered is that just by saying that after the competition I have chaired 890 meetings or I have interviewed a lot of them and I have talked to a lot of people about all these meetings and it is not just summaries meetings it is actually a very detailed like who said where when so that you can almost reconstruct the entire foundation just by looking at the transfer and there is a link that is perfect and so what I have discovered is that they actually incentivize the whole public service to innovate because now if they innovate actually they get a click because in general the public can go back as the public nowadays the public don't that creates such an innovative environment and because there is only more of this so I am so wrong and I am so little as a doubt that makes it much more important to do that and while we do this introduction we make sure that whatever we do there is a random improvement in the sense that we don't trade 100% value which is why it is true a lot so we don't propose something that cannot but at a second place so we don't do something to avoid the risk but at a second place so we can know we do piecemeal and piecemeal and once we commit ourselves we won't need to do such improvement because they know that if they propose something they will not have because they work out loud and it is a very important my office is literally one person from HMC so we have 32 ministries so I can have 32 I have 21 this is so HMC is a if someone proposed something that will be the two mentalities of other values and that is how we keep delivering innovations that are at least not sacrificing anyone and I think that can promote innovations to practice and what is effective in a career model by any environment or for many people that is a little classroom so first I say that we don't perform that in innovation such as Slido we tend to get to almost all the questions that are posed by the speaker in the class it is really remarkable what is the real main benefit of doing the global class and perhaps also like the websites where you have access to how the dynamic interaction is and they you will get to it if they don't get to it we encourage you to do that and because you have to share experience with them they are much more likely to be possible finally at the end of the course we do take suggestions and we do listen to the feedback you get part of the reason why half our speakers are the front and half part is because we are trying we ask who is the best or the worst who do you recommend being treated with a cure and sometimes it is a big kind of person a specific person I am happy to say that we got a lot of positive feedback about Audrey's lecture and therefore we should raise it on the next year though we have less enthusiasm we should not do that in fact then we received suggestions from people like Steve others who bring that up who are bringing these kind of counter alternative perspectives maybe with just the fact that we can improve this network so we do they are the dying the feedback is that they get a little different than when you are at home so the next question is how important it is that we talk about the category of genes by bringing to knowledge which they can use this tomorrow we will talk a little bit about the world of technology technology itself is neutral in terms of time sometimes unintentionally intentionally I made fun of Uber earlier we also looked at Twitter because it seems so silly and simple and yet it has entered a non-democratic regime many of them have helped power those non-democratic regimes in kind of an unexpected of a basic way so that's all I really have to share about that it is tricky technology can be used for bad or for good I think what Audrey will talk to about the more open the data is and more sure that people the data or the technology is at home and sure that people have access to it so that the big haters are just switching off the internet I think then there is more power which is potentially the users themselves are helping to I mean I still remember when Helen was not a democracy I'm very so like people have already assumed that Helen is always able to put the policy because they don't really have a person experience that is not the same as having been through the martial law days where it really wasn't much of a freedom as an expression and people do that and so having been through the martial law and also the living of the martial law and the 10 years or so of the civil society building itself and finally right to this introduction in 1996 when you say that it is quite fun not the state to state acknowledging that I want it is rather the general availability the general availability personalized technologies this digital and social technologies that enables the civil society people who advocate against a different set of what you can see enabling the people and get people's consensus in the end for them to include the organizations and finally get into the place where the state offers a difference that actually may be a better to-go program and so I think creating the necessary for a democracy function is paramount if there is no sustainable civil society to be ready to take on the fundamental functions there as well and there should be like that and it is too easy for the authority to do that and so just like empowering it directly through open innovation to create a precondition that allows democracy to happen and of course I'm not a blunt civil society waiting for a few different conditions but at least we need to prepare the preconditions and this is a important one governance usually is about creating asymmetrics that could then influence information asymmetrics and rather than transparency we have to make them portion harder and so how do you see the future of governance so the way I authenticate this kind of open confidence I didn't invent any of it I participated in the confidence of the internet that I was thinking about and I would take another five two from each of these and so it's like the internet governance facility and like the internet engineering and so on and so the internet governance is based on techniques that you really cannot rely on if somebody you don't have confidence if somebody rather than operate you around really is no way to co-ass that interaction and so people really have to figure out what consensus to move anything forward and so there's a particular set of techniques that has grown out of this non-co-ass and acoustic nature of private internet works and so now of course it's starting to intersect with the real politics essentially that translates people start to see this code as well as long as it's only basically applicable to everything things like hiring a car or things like that and so I think by insensitivity people have to now gain reach through openness simply because the alternate way is to maintain the same distance to the people and then people who spend too much on one or two percent of the space here or whatever they already must have the technique of just kind of being to the core of the years and now and whatever consciousness tendencies and so really there is no other way by both governments to adopt the same closeness to people by responding in and out and basically making the movements not letting go of the spread because otherwise the movements always will be competitive but of course it's to basically shut down the configuration but that is to provide a new promise next question for me it's probably related to the question about how much the SPG is going to cost I'm going to say something good about this one but let me start by saying the figure of the opportunity to percent of the SPG to achieve the SPG not per year by the way I do not think that there were so that's not part of that figure people will say that's good about consultants as you know they have been consulting for example our people are being hired by unfortunate companies and they're being hired at quite a cost so they are having a positive role there is a role for them so it's extraordinarily important when it comes to project management to the efficiency gains so there is a role for them and I don't think necessarily when I said we're going to separate that out and it's always something to be avoided that said how many of you are familiar with the sustainable development role how many of you are familiar with the wanting role and how well the wanting role is that there's a whole bit about that the wanting for this project is a proof of concept for the wanting development role that we could direct that 0.7% of GDP per person and achieve the wanting development role which we're all the age and close to that so those are focused on social and health so the UN did every tax one of my mentors they selected 12 fillers across different agro-economic sub-cair in Africa those are the 5,000 people and what they tried to show is that per person we're spending will be set to be spent and in these communities by spending that amount we are achieving the wanting role so there's a whole motivation for the wanting building project and there's a question whether it's exceeded in this or not but I think the challenge with this is that the funding didn't include the project manager who were some of the most unique talents who looked at the country there's nothing about consultancy even though a lot of consultants aren't coming from developed countries we're developing as we go we're partnering with government to identify the best talent and train that talent but they were directing some of the best talent in the community but whatever success they had they always put the ability to scale that one they weren't really including it in their budget and it was huge as I said in the first part of the conference it was huge but it wasn't counted in the two hundred months it was in a higher country so they tried to scale that one for that so I kind of interpreted that question more broadly about I don't think it's in that number but that's how big it should be there are going to be times where we need expertise we need to be kind of in people from the country are positive but then this is the bigger part of how we really achieve these can we group something on a small scale where it would require a much broader kind of human resources which is part of the problem and the next question is do you think there is a case of ethics of AI and what does that mean for you what did you do really what was in mind for my personal name doesn't matter at all there's a whole point of having this position of having those so-trying equals you can figure out the law through interactions this is important because in the local surveys and the real interactions we have there is a different set of priorities and if you can change this in the LSEs or countries that you are in it's how in journals we can people could go to the autonomous the most to the elderly and then to women and then to the people with disabilities and finally the children but you can ask people from Austin if they prefer the problems to be in the children they don't quite care about the elderly and so this is something that is part of this division of the challenges and shares and people in that prioritizing of the elderly but in any case I think so what I'm saying is that that is a reflection of this is on the basics it is not an application you can travel abstractly it has to be formed through the norms that is created by the social interaction with the actual innovations on A1 and so we've always developed a norm approach and with the norms we introduce regulations and using the regulations then we talk about the parameters that is something that values A1 the line A1 that is the actual software and you often see the other way around the first type of heritage and it goes long ways and gets the regulation that it wants and the regulation then defends the size of the norm and you get all those differences from those days in the area I wonder if people consistently adopt a norm approach a local norm approach that I think a lot of people need this in that respect what they're experiencing is when we come to collaborate with engineers or engineers how do you make sure your ideas have to work right oh okay right so I think my experience is really prominent and I think this is a necessity when I say we continue we live in a zone because in Taiwan we are very as I said fortunate to have a democratization that is led by the civil society in the end and so for example the fact that this is going to the thank you that produces the children on of care of our cameras is a professional foundation with the people with talent center and they're around for 30 years and they're more legitimate than pretty much any of the government programs and we can use that as an example of a very popular disaster relief foundation called CC charity if they publish a number and the government publishes another number you are going to trust that number and when it comes to that as a relief we have one talk they all of them were founded around or even before the precision election and so people generally trust that and so basically I always say that I'm just a channel upon which the MPs even the social impact including social impact can just get their agenda into the government's mechanism it's never the other way around because we trust that MPs deliver us and they have a better idea of the local agenda as compared to the government but what is this that the government will do well just we're back to the political part we make sure that everybody has the same access to the numbers as evidenced by for example the government and social analysis system that's us that is our contribution we appreciate this whether we share the same numbers on population economy, industry, transportation land, housing, education that people can just highlight a problem of course of population or you know a net migration out of that particular county and in periods with your nearby counties and everything like that so basically where we see ourselves as creating a agenda that's where those MPs can deliver meaningfully on a different kind of forward for that particular county but the open up spirit is built down whatever the agenda they have it's very more useful for planning sections that the government facilitates than they are controls and so this dedication to a civil society is quite important and I think our relationship with NGO is the basis of this trust that we deviate from that path but because my agenda are literally all created by the NGOs that makes it themselves the kind of translator of those ideas back to the society and that actually is the main reason because the same goals are created by each of those spaces and translated back to the NGOs that are actually happening for some reason we don't use that terminology we don't use it so back to my earlier point about you not separating yourself from others that would be innovative and the business model can be able to apply not just a startup or a private sector company but it should be something that can be nicely organized for any organization that's somehow self-sustaining somehow successful what I would say is it's easier for an NGO or an NGO to continue to exist or maybe it doesn't have a truly impactful or sustainable model than it is for a private sector company which would go out of business if it wasn't somehow serving as client needs and this is because some of the business models in NGOs and NGOs use are from the development partners who maybe aren't equally close to pension or maybe are so concerned with the innovation level that said a very successful NGO is the Red Cross and what's the Red Cross in business model we raise money and then we apply it to disaster relief situations and they do it in a way that governments are able to do in September and it will be very successful is it particularly innovative no but it's doing an amazing job having created impact has that said in Haiti after the earthquake there was a time when the government had to take out all NGOs too many people were misdirected from people who were using the situation of the earthquake in Haiti to raise tremendous money and trust people where and how that was going to be they actually keep everyone out of need that we apply and that's a great idea for a whole bunch of people and on some of them is to really kind of have to prove what you're doing to be careful that when there is some kind of very visible problem that is not being disused or abused I also under travel in South East Asia there would be full pages where people would say don't know anything to work with because they're not actually using that money for work or it's not breaking down or people are actually essentially congregating these kids in the situation they're on so I think it's mixed the challenge that we're being profitable for and we all know what to cut it so the experience of NGOs really has been mixed sometimes that entrance I do a lot of work in social and entrance to there too where some ideas maybe more somehow the less well thought out we're still affecting I want to do that a little bit so in addition to presence which is all of objective information about other talent groups we're working on a social innovation database that's basically classifies the priorities that each can want to see using how these have you know that they are as we should call them but if you look into it you will see exactly what kind of refugees the county or city is focusing on refugees and also you can browse across all of the refugees to see what kind of social awareness are working on or what kind of innovation are working on these refugees but the point I want to get across is that some of them are or are needed to comment but what we basically are coming to be listed here you have to provide it accountable by the mission of your child your child's accomplishments of the company you have to deal with these levels through that report we list in the database on the other hand if you are also required to list the five of how you plan to deliver those impact sometimes the other services and products sometimes just vibrate but actually providing the same accountability as any you can probably declare that you are acting for them whether you are a CEO or what really matters is the kind of accountability that one can provide so that we can discover the job based on the SMGs and know that to use the right quality of education that all of these are solving more or less the same issues, the same controls while you can be assured more or less that at least the previous system that they did when they declared that they want to do which is achieving quality education and so having this national accountability is I think it is all the key to building this new galaxy because previously we had a common power and now we have SMGs I really don't know you just use that which is I think where you come to Well, there is not much of this system to do with I think a lot of it is just people hearing that having a information properly transparent will make the society panic I will use some hope of Taiwan's land to use now in the Taiwan land to use now actually it is part of the business that I just showed you there used to be a data set a risk of a landfall of a how you could affect your local land after a earthquake there was a disaster due to the land but because it was published in a really poor screenplay in a sense that it is published down to a resolution so it actually affects the health of the public we will get a close and transparency report and they think that it could be affected and then we let it kind of panic but a response to that of course is on taking a bit down is actually the city government in municipal governments making extra surveys and publish a very fine resolution map that actually need those which exact buildings are subject to those things like that so it won't have the negative vibes a culture of the public so it says okay maybe we publish this without consulting the voters and so on and we will do that in the college and basically the solution in such years as there is no doubt is deepening the relationship of public home college is never going to be retracing or the acquisition of data and then that's fine okay so so I think that's pretty much it right before we wrap up if I could quickly pull the class from here for tomorrow I had that last slide where we could somehow find out some of the secret indicators I don't think we'll get to that but I just do a quick few questions to the class from this year's familiarity of the two concepts planetary boundaries these raise your hand and you could expose to them and feel like you really understand the problem okay good, I'll go to that tomorrow and then so now I'm going to ask about the aspect the category of SCG to the extent to which you feel it's relevant to your position in your country so how many of you has helped raise your hand if there's any doubt for you so let's do health again education gender equality climate change ocean biodiversity laws and urbanization okay thank you thank you so much that was really good thank you of course thank you health laws again well, we're both of them so we really want to have cheerful both of you we just need to feel good so cool cheers morning thank you everyone thank you yes everyone thank you that's the time I want you to do the whole thing thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you