 in a new station, and it's bigger than the one that they're proposing, but less money. So they're talking about going back to the architects, which are John McCullough and the guy from Hardbook Hook, and I don't remember his name, somebody, Kay, somebody Kay, I don't know, last night. Anyways, going back to the architects and look at the Corinth plans and say, because something about the roof that's designed, that they designed, would be really expensive for hours. Right. For the Whibbery one. So they're looking at the one that East Corinth had. They're going to do some comparison in size, you know, square footage, you know, the size and the shape, I guess, the design, I guess is the word, the design of the building and the roof, because I think East Corinth is looking at 5,000. 5,000? 5,000 square feet, this one is like 4,000, but the one in East Corinth for 5,000 is still coming in at like 750, and the one that was designed for Whibbery is coming in right now higher than that, less square footage. So they're going to do some checking it out to see why there's a difference. They're doing it, they're doing it, they're doing their homework. Yeah. So that's my update on that. The fundraising is going to be in three stages. They're going to look to large corporations like Rock of Ages, Swenson, you know, the trucking companies that all go by there for phase one donations. Then they're going to go to the local folks, you know, Calis Whibbery, and then they're talking about this brick paver garden where you purchase a brick and they want to make, because they're going to, you know, they're going to tear down that old store that was contaminated. It's gone, yeah. And they're talking about having that as green space in Whibbery and doing these, they could do a combination paver thing with using some of that and kind of have a bench and maybe in memory of the kind of thing. So yeah, they're doing a good job. Awesome. My chairs aren't very comfortable, David. How do you like the deal? Yeah. No, I think worse. So that's it. You guys all heard about Corona. I've been following, I get sometimes daily updates from Ramon Emergency Management about what's going on, about precautions. You might have seen, I posted a couple of things on front porch forum. I don't want to post too much and freak people out. But I think it's important for people to know what's going on so if there's anything significant. And yes, I did watch the press conference when I could hear. And just kind of staying up to date on it. There's warming for modern health. Right, in Bennington. South Wales Regional Monument. Older gentlemen who's in trouble, yes. Yeah. And I did, you know, I did write back to them because I had some questions. I haven't gotten an answer yet, but we'll see. So that's kind of where we're at. We have other minutes to approve or we could be done early or we could go into executive session and talk about some union stuff. Which is a pleasure. Well, I think that we have a lot of meeting minutes to approve. Don't we? I kind of looked, right? January? That's a stuck. There's sex. We did get some done. We did get some done. So we should probably approve some minutes. At least a couple. January. Yeah, let's go to, can you? Okay. One, two. Yeah. This is 507. Hmm. This is 507. Let's go back and look at the clock. Pull up the video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did not have any inputs here, but Sharon did. Just a minute. Yeah. Yeah, I think we looked at this. Yeah, there was some question that came up. I think this was the question. Well, maybe we can. No, we did. We did move. We did vote to move forward with Roger. Yeah, we told Roger. I told me to do it. I remember. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we've done, we've done that. I mean, the unpredictable nature of union negotiations was as well as the major implications of unpredictably high health insurance. Increases. Increases? Yeah. I guess it should be. Premium. They said, yeah, I think premium increases. We don't have, you know, just like everybody else in the world that has loans of business, they don't have any control over it. Yep. So in terms of the question that Sharon posed there, which question was on it? Did we actually vote to move forward with Roger Hill? Yeah, we did. I remember we did. At this meeting. Yeah. I'd have to go back and let them know, but I know we told Toby. We told Toby to sign up for Roger Hill. So this big hat step doesn't have anything to sign? No. See what? There's nothing to sign. This big step doesn't have anything to sign? Oh, it's this one. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Because that's the one that has Steve will chase on it. Yeah. Yeah. The minute for these. Yeah. January 2nd. And remember we told Toby to go ahead and sign up for Roger Hill? Yeah. So how do you know who's commented on this? By color? I mean, I see the name. It's hard. Well, I'm looking here. Can you see? Well, I can see this. Because her name is here. That means she's there. Yeah. Oh, because I look at what it says here. Right. It's hard because if you get a lot of people commenting, like I come in, Rose come in, Sharon come in, and it stacks and it's really hard to know who said what. So in MS Microsoft Word, it assigns a color to a person so you know who is who. Google Docs doesn't do that. Or does it? Let's see. It can be pink. I see some blue in there. I don't see some green. But I don't know who's green or blue. Sometimes I pick my own color. If you click on it, if you put your cursor there and click on it, John will pull to the forefront of comment that goes on. Oh, that's how you tell. Okay. It is tricky though. In a paragraph, there might be different places where someone has. Right. And the person who is making the suggestion can pick different colors. Okay. But if I click on it, it tells and takes me right there. Okay. Beautiful. Yeah. That works. I don't know who green is. Mars. Mars. Mars. I don't see any other suggestions. No. All right. So we'd like to have a motion to approve the minutes with the changes as noted. Second. Those are basically sad. Thank you, Katie. All right. Now what do we have? Katie, can we print off the town meeting minutes that we just approved tonight so we can get them signed? I'll go get them out of there. And we can send them out and be signed while we're doing this other stuff. Can you take it apart? You have the authority now? She's very happy. I do. You'll take your time. Sometimes the formatting is too weird, but it looks good. I have to get up and move anyways because of my leg. Okay. How is that sciatica? Oh, good sciatica. Oh, yeah. It's better. I'm going to go see this chiropractor on Thursday. I've never been to a chiropractor before. Oh, it feels good. So don't, don't camera me with my bum and leg. It's going to make the heart of a gazette. All right. Chairwoman Wheeler thinks her leg may need to be amputated. Right. That's what I wished. Oh, it's actually more than just numb. It's painful. Oh, yeah. Oh, really? Oh, my God. It was awful. All right. So this is going to be on camera, but Roger was trying to have a conversation with that. Roger is Denise Wheeler's husband. Chairwoman Wheeler's husband. And I said, are you in so much pain that I can't even talk? Holy. Oh, my gosh. So, you know what? I'm going to play it. I can't talk. Wow. He was like, whoa. I like this. Yeah. I'm going to go buy a bobcat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. January 9th. Will it be approved? Second? Yes. All right. So are the minutes from January 9th for the record? With approval with changes as noted. Yes. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. How many more would that be? Do you want to do, there's two more in January, the 13th and the 27th. All right. Let's get January. Okay. We're on a roll. This wasn't a special meeting, right? This was a regular meeting. Yeah. Very good. Yes. Thank you for capturing. Scott Thompson stopped really well. Mm-hmm. Looks like just some minor ones here. Yeah. Any other? There's nothing to add. I don't think there's anything else to be. What is this? 47 what? Oh, okay. This is our chart. Mm-hmm. Okay. This year you had to redo it and make some adjustments. So it equaled 100. Yeah. Yep. All right. Motion to approve the January 13 minutes with minor edits. So move. Second. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. And we're closed hearing none. You only have about the night 20th? 27th. 27th. You mean we had a week we didn't meet? I think you did today. Well, maybe not. Oh, this was, isn't this the one where some... We wanted to look at this a little closer. The gun owner thing? You know, I just realized that never came up. No. He showed up at town meeting for his resolution. It was on the news that it was spoken about in a few towns. Oh, really? Yeah, but I think Eden was one and... There were three towns where... Yeah, three maybe. At least three that it came. There might have been more than three where it was brought up, at least three that it was brought up at and... They agreed with it? I don't think we need... And there was more that... I don't think we needed to stay currently a Facebook group. I think we just ended at Vermont. Anybody else disagree with that? Sounds good. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's... I think that's fine. Read as well. Yep. Your stuff. Yeah. That's for me. A motion to approve the... Move to approve the minutes from... Monday, January 27th, with minor edits, is noted. Is it a second? I'll second that. Okay, all those in favor, please... This rose wants to... No, I'm just happy. Please... I know you don't like being second, so I didn't want to do that to you. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? And if we can get those... I sent it to me. It says that the printer's offline. I don't know if that means that it hasn't happened since I've tried to do it. It turned off. Yeah, it's on. You sent it into the correct printer? It went to bed early. I think I only have one... Like the way he set it up, I only have one choice. Oh, yeah. And it now says two documents are waiting. Oh, it's on. It may be doing something in the background like we have to make... Well, and especially because it's a big document. So maybe it is just thinking... So there's a thing that says print. Job name printing, and there's nothing less than jobs to be printed. It's not getting her requests. It's thinking about it. But now you broke it. Probably took a while. And it's on camera too. Oh, no. That's not she burned her book, she actually kicked the old printer. Probably the worst new one. I don't know. They just didn't... Because it was set for personal? So I just pressed here. Uh... And now it's printing something. There you go. And it's minutes. And it's like, where are you? So what is this all about? Then I talk to the secretary. And you print this a long time ago. She said, Because our nutrition order is really forced to purchase and material management. All right. Give me one minute. And they were securing a freeway to people. They were going to be taking supplies. And so I'm not signing it out in the proper way. So she said, It's not really to purchase the people on a time clock, but it's to watch the door to purchasing, to seeing who's going in and out. It was... But it just... A couple other updates while I work. Just... While we're waiting for this, a couple other updates. I did the hitching of the letter. She hitching about the hitching post then for the state. The uncurrier is the new person in charge of the transportation stuff. All of you looked at it. And... What was the other thing that I did? Oh, I submitted the application that I brought up about nominating our conservation commission as Tree Stewards of the Year as a group. So I submitted that stuff today. Oh, good. And we'll see if they get it in. I haven't said anything to them about that. So maybe I will take a meeting with her tonight. I'll send it to Stephanie. Say it to Katie. Sure. All right. Now we can sign this up. This will make Judy so happy. Yeah. And you all know Judy's on vacation for the week, right? Mm-hmm. I'm going to go into the executive session at the end of the meeting to discuss the legal matters. Okay. All right. Is there anything else to discuss or would you like to make that motion now? You speak to the meeting now? You're not sure? Yes. Would you like to make that motion now? I would like to make a motion that select board adjourn the meeting. Not adjourn the meeting, but... Move into the executive session. Move into the executive session for the remainder of the meeting just to... for a portion of the meeting just for how long? Okay. It would be too long. We can do it at the end of the meeting. I think we're done. Okay. Why don't we do that? Unless there's anything else. Why don't we do that? All right. So I'll second your motion. What? Thank you, Katie. Thank you, Katie. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thanks, Katie. Thank you, Kevin. Thank you, Katie. I kind of covered some of that and what we might do. Anything else? I wanted to do this before it got, you know, kind of left a few frames. You took a couple notes from until meeting day when a couple people said we should do this. I didn't see that. I saw you write something. Yeah. One of them was the input to put the list of contact names and phone questions. Oh, yeah. In the front side of the book. Yeah. I like that. So it's easily accessible. We used to have that. Yeah, we did. I don't know why it got changed. Yeah. Yeah. Rose had mentioned that there were some errors in people's... their terms of service. Yeah, we got to do a better job of checking them. You know, we're focused heavily on the items that you're... Well, I think we leave the rest of it to the other people to look at. Yeah. Yeah. But I would have been happy to proof it. You would have? Yeah. Yeah. I wrote some notes down, but I forgot to bring my town report. A note that I had in my own observations is if, regardless of where we have the meeting, it would probably be helpful for the select board if we all were able to sit with the table space in front of us. Yes. Yeah, it was not there this year. Yeah, that was kind of... Well, by the time it got to Rose and Sharon, there was no table. I had to tell her, oh, two members of the same group, you know. Yeah. I don't know how come that happened. There was tables on our minor side of the lecture. Right. Katie had a table. Katie had a table. But all the select board typically sits behind the same table. Right. So we just need to have an extra table so that there's enough room for everybody. This was like the first year. We didn't have... No, I think it was like that last year. Last year it was like that. But what we had different was we had a small table that's much smaller than the long table, but we had a small table set up. And I was able to squeeze in behind that one. Yeah. And we need to have Sharon up and up. Sharon. Sandra. Right. She has to be up front with us. She needs to be... Well, she doesn't have to sit right up front with us, but she needs to be closer by. Well, she could have been on the other side of the lecture. Katie. Right. Right. Yeah. She could have been over with Katie. Yeah. So that's... Yeah. I thought the same thing when she was in the audience. I know. Yeah. I wasn't sure she was there until she stood up. Katie, did you know there's anything from your perspective? You know, our Jerome, I was surprised that so many people don't have a context of what you actually do. Like, they'll think they're saying something thoughtful or they'll ask a question thinking that they've somehow stumped you or something. And the answer, they don't have the context for knowing that these meetings happen and that there's a paper agenda. I wondered if there's a way at the beginning to frame out when you're introducing yourself that you are the select board that you've met 37 times, plus that for the... maybe because you did have new voters that you welcome, to say, like, there's an example of what an agenda might look like, and so it gets posted in these places. So you could keep it on and we do have a lot of 10 members who look at it. We could have a handout through it. We could have a handout and put them on each chair saying this is what a typical agenda looks like. I mean, we write in our town, in our report that we met 37 times and these are all the subjects that we covered, but there were several this year that were significant. The school. Right. The union stuff, the... What am I forgetting? There was like a handful of really more significant roads study. You know, maybe a handout, because I don't know how many people read, really read it, so that they have an idea of what's going on. Even to get the visual of, like, these are the people. Yeah. These people were creating it. When people are asking questions, we're adding you weekly. We correspond by email or phone to like scope out that this is a process. It's not a surprise that these things happened. Yeah. To connect the dots for people. Yeah. Good. Excellent. Yeah. Jerome, did you have anything? Same observations that you already made. I did receive a suggestion from someone who thought it was their first time attending and they were wondering what some of these anagrams and whatnot did. What anagrams? The shorthand that we use. Oh, the acronyms? CBPRC. You know, would it be possible to put a glossary together? It would necessarily have to go into the book, maybe publish on a website or a handout that's available. Or just spell it out. Or spell it out. I can do that. And the other point that I have a note on here is the one that Matt brought up that maybe sometime we would want to consider going to four payments instead of two payments on the taxes. Yeah, he brings that up. He brings that up. We used to. We've had that conversation and Matt knows it. We can have it again. No, just for the record. You know what? That could be part of what we might do an informational meaning about that we could put if we have these two information meetings in the summer. Bring up the tax installments and also what effect of reducing from 4.5 to 3% will have on the town coffers. Yeah. When Michael Leutnant made that motion and I didn't think at the time I like, I didn't think at the time to speak up but that's going to have an effect on not that we want to make money off of people's hard times. We did load it last time. Right. We've gone through this. We keep doing this loop. Right. We did it. It used to be 8. Yeah. Then it went to 7. Yeah. Then Doug Lilly is the one who I think wanted us to do 4.5. Yeah. 1% above what the going rate out there. Right. It complicates that we did a fixed number. Right. And now it's down to 3%. But it gets too low. It doesn't incent folks to pay because it's cheaper than borrowing the money. Well, as Sandra says we're acting on the other thing about having more payments. We need to pay our bills now. We can't just this is not like we have a monthly billing. That's true. We have salaries to pay. We have work to get done and comes to the beginning of that budget here we're supposed to have the money and as it is we're not getting all the money. Yeah. So we're always in a deficit state at the beginning of the budget finally get caught up down to 6,000 or whatever. And it's always in its court towards you know this time of year which is towards the end of the fiscal year. But do you also remember when we used to pay and this was Barry Bernstein's big thing. We used to pay town tax and then we paid school. Yeah. And Barry Bernstein's big thing was it's all coming out of the same pockets why not make it equal. Installments which is easier maybe not necessarily easier for people. Yeah. But that's you know we've had that discussion as well. Yeah. But I'm all for holding informational meetings and we did the informational meeting over at the town hall and Memorial Hall. Oh yeah. We got a really good turnout and really positive responses from people for us doing that. So but now we have to have chairs to sit on because the pews are gone. Right. So a side note on the chairs is it looks like the folding chairs that we use at the school would be available to us to use at the town hall should we need them and at some point in the near future it sounds like they're going to be giving them away. Why? They're going to get new chairs. Oh. Why do they need to buy them? Okay. But if they do that's So they want to get rid of the chairs we have because they're not cushioned is that the idea they want to have more theater to be at the school at the school right. They want to have the cushion which means which get you to ourselves. Yes. Okay. We could get them for free. Yes. Okay. So it was discussed. Yeah. It didn't wow. John and John when they were proposing equipment for the town hall they said they wanted stackable chairs that could be on but this is what we want to do for the town hall if you support that please contribute. That's right. Here's the folding chair. Right. It's better than sand. I can't remember what the chairs are like are they just regular little folding chairs like those? Yeah. Yeah. At the school. Yeah. And around since the 40s. Yeah. You can put them on carts and roll them around. I was going to say your cues. Yeah. But I mean the town hall. Right. And at least it sounds like we would be able to use them that is taking use of them for an informational meeting. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good. All right. So we should think about doing that maybe before people get into full vacation mode and be Black plus May. June. No. It's May 15th to Father's Day. June 18th. Yeah. All right. Do you think I have a question. Do you think that snow fleas are related to Black flies? Is that the same thing as Black snowsnakes? My husband when I first moved up here tried to get me to believe there were snowsnakes. No. Snow fleas are just really, really tiny little Black flies are born they're tethered to the shore like to a tree root or something in the water under the water and they sit there on the end until they reach that next stage. And then they come out of the water? Eventually they come out of the water. Yeah. And so what's the epidemiology of snow fleas? Well. Oh, Google it. He's going to Google it. The genus. We're getting off of the snow. We're going to get back on track here. Genius. All right. Do you remember for next year or for these informational meetings, I'm going to ask Barbara and Judy and stuff too what they have any thoughts because it's nice to have it all in one place. Do you know how much money was raised from the luncheon towards the town hall? $350, right? $350 was raised and then some of that had to go to offset a few costs so it came up to about $300. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Good. We're going to establish a check in account so we can deposit. Good. Oh, good. Great. I told David he needs a new apron instead of save the Kent. Right. I think I told him the same thing. New apron, David. Friends of the town hall. I think the Kent's been saved. Yeah. That's apparently what he was telling people . Okay. So we'll put that list together and keep track of it. I usually keep it in the front of my town report so when we come to next season. Great. Minutes. Katie did two versions which thank you very much, Katie. She has the very detailed ones which we don't need to approve but it's nice to have but we need to approve folks may and I didn't want to see anything else. I mean the changes that Rose sent also. Yeah. I told her Mike Lania was the one who did the 3% right. Penalty and added details and added the rabies clinic. The only other thing was at the end of the transacting other business. The East Calis community trust also spoke along with other businesses. If you could just add that the East Calis community trust where you have discussion about many local projects and efforts including coronavirus and the East Calis community trust on the last page. I'm there I'm just looking for it. Article 18. Article 18. Yeah. Oh you're in the brief version. Yeah. And friends. Mm-hmm. Town Hall friends. Group and East Calis community trust. Did you have anything else anybody? I don't think I read the edited version I just read the long one. Yeah. But it was very nice. Yeah. So helpful to have the long version. Really helpful. Right. Thank you. Mm-hmm. All right. And with that would anybody like to make a the edits? So little second. All right. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none. All right. Do you have any IT or friends update? Yes. IT like you or CC but it would benefit everyone else. Our working to get us scheduled in for the replacement because they won't be able to schedule it probably sometime in June, July because of their backlog. So we wanted to get on their radar as quickly as possible so that they could make sure we're in there and we're not left hanging. So that's in the works. Nothing else really to report on the IT side? Well there was that email that Judy sent us and we said we'd talk about it after town meeting. I can't remember the email right now but we should look at that. She sent it to me. Who was it from? I can't remember who it was from. I don't know if she sent it to everybody I can't even remember but there was we said it was right before town meeting we said we'll take a look at this Well there's steeple chase that's something that's different maybe. No this was an MSN something or other it was a warning from might have been Secretary of State's office about viruses and some other stuff but we should put that on our radar at some point. I'll go back in my email and find it. Anything that to take on to I think it was just a general awareness type of thing and then it sounds like there's probably going to be more you probably offer some more training and whatnot to help make people more aware so clearly there's a concern that we've already expressed and we discussed as we were working on the RFP to make sure we could get some of that and it sounds like that'll be resolved we'll have different resources available where our staff can go get training and whatnot it's becoming a big deal but I'll go back in my email and find it and forward it to everybody I thought everybody got it but maybe not Judy forwarded it forwarded to you and I didn't know Yeah I thought you might have sent it out to everyone and said it would be important we'll discuss it when we're upcoming meetings but I'll look for it I'm just going to do it if you want but we want to put steeplechase update on our to-do list now that it's over and you'll see the invoice for steeplechase is in there for the work that they did like $28 or $2400 pretty reasonable price anything else I'm telling all friends Yes this kind of goes back to our previous issue mentioned it there's a possibility that some of the people in the town come forward or encourage Orga to come forward and ask to be placed on the list of entities that we support I like that who brought that up I like that idea You mean on our social services thing? Oh, okay so this isn't coming from the friends Yes it is because this came up at one of the friends discussions and specifically Scott Bassage suggested this That's good but we told them that they have to fill out an application Right, they have to go through the same process And over the number of years I've spoken with Orga people right up through another new manager I think but I really would like to see Orga come up with alternative funding I know that there's the prospect of them losing or maybe they've already lost their funding a lot of funding to the the sources that used to guard money from which was the cable fee to the federal court and there was some kind of thing I can explain but there was some determination that these cable companies and cable companies went to court saying they should not have to fund these community benefit programs outreach programs so Orga provides a great public service and I know that there are some complications where they have to make some adjustments to how they do business and I don't think they could take money but I really would like to see Orga prosper and continue on in the manner we're better than we've already done so I like that idea they just got to fill out that form to get put on the stuff whatever we'd call it now we decided to call something different I can't remember now so yeah to note with the previous discussion Katie about the process of the town meeting and things to be thinking about next time around I already mentioned the folding chairs from the school yeah the capacity is about 130 135 increased reporter parties the final determination on occupancy is made by a labor industry and after receive a certificate of occupancy that's part of the process I know that the organization at some point may not be getting 100% right but that building is there's some grandfathering there based on in terms of no need for sprinklers systems and always modern building upgrades fire code upgrades and all that grandfathering hinges on historical levels of use and so I know that when we had the ancient road discussion that thing had in there and that's part of it I'm sure they've had a number of meetings where it was overflow capacity but I don't know what standing room only capacity is but that would be the historic level maybe it's 230 but if we were to exceed that number somehow then I believe the grandfathering falls away for the numbers and excess so that there's a limitation that's beyond just chairs has to do with historic levels and I don't know how you prove that but the for instance there was an argument presented by the state that well the pews only provided this much seating and then we figured some standing room around our numbers X and by us having chairs we would be increasing that capacity by you know 35% they might push back and if we don't have any proof you know I think it makes the call in the end so we just got to be aware of that interesting any other questions or comments on that or the next issues that we're discussed by friends of the grand re-opening is set for Sunday May 24th tentatively it is scheduled what time? May 24th May 24th the final Sunday of the what is the open arts yes weekend and it would be scheduled for approximately kind of finalize that part of it but right now we're looking at possibility like from 3 in the afternoon to 7 in the evening the program would look something like you know that's what we're talking about right now would be it would start with an open house so people can just come in kind of tour and look the place over and then probably around 3.30 4 p.m. time range there would be a little program that talks about this is how we got to this point this is what we imagine doing going forward here are some of the people who have greatly contributed that we want to thank and acknowledge etc well we want to do something to have a plaque for her yeah Donna is on to that she was at the meeting because she wanted to you know understand what we were cooking up and so that's really what her part of the the open house would be is that her program and acknowledgement somewhat around working on you got I didn't know yep almost be done here sure okay and then segue into around 4.30 or so we'll open up the grills and there'll be you know goodies available for people to munch on and then segue into some entertainment that will run approximately from 5 to 7 p.m. music it's probably gonna be done much like what happened with the town meeting we'll have some individuals who volunteer as grillmasters and others who will contribute but we may look at something else too that those hard decisions have been made that's what we've talked about so far cool so just as an FYI there's a big barn party hope it's not that night that occurs every year when he's Craftsbury I do that weekend no but they and then it's a fundraiser for the Craftsbury ginger players oh okay and there are food trucks that come that would be fun serve and there's actually there's one purveyor that provides like a little how they license that it's probably a temporary license for that one event and then there's a truck there's at least two trucks well we have a woman in right in East Calis Jenny who does the burrito truck oh really they have it up at the mall sometimes I wonder if she's one of them because there's definitely a Mexican good name and you know that takes a lot of pressure off you all yeah you know to buy food and anticipate all that and these people have it dialed in it's really really and you can still ask for donations as people come through the door for the town hall yep yeah so that's what they do so it's ten bucks ahead to come in but they have a live ban let the start line wear the moys every year less few years and so it's ten bucks and beer buy the beer and then there's food trucks food trucks are fun yeah you know it's the beginning of the summer too it's kind of nice people in the kitchen yep I mean I know I'll definitely mention that and I can you can circle back I can put you in touch with the books okay of that event can you Google the date of that event he isn't I could probably look at my email see when I was last year write yourself a note right I really worry it's going to be the same night I got to yeah hope not well ours is earlier three to seven so yeah this thing starts at five thirty six can people can see the book well I'm just thinking of food choice you're right oh right right um we need to put on the agenda for our meeting on the 23rd the friends of the town hall will be ready at that point to present the proposed memorandum of understanding agreement whatever it is between the friends of and the select board as well as another important part of that is the select board I think is going to want to see what the rental agreement that the friends of group would be using has in it so in the meantime I know rental agreement yeah and in the meantime if there's anything you're wondering you know when we have that included in there or something you want to make sure we touch upon please feel free to email your suggestions or questions have you all finalized the bylaws yes yeah bylaws have been finalized um and the the the surrogate agreement and the um the memorandum of understanding or usage agreement when everyone call it is really largely based upon what's in place with the yeah you'll send it to us in time enough to look at mm-hmm okay um what we're hoping to do is get it ready for your review possibly as early as this Thursday mm-hmm if not we'll meet on the following Thursday which I think is the 19th finalize it mm-hmm and we'll be able to get it to you by now mm-hmm from group um from group getting done yes um just so you know you are all now friends oh the town hall oh okay whether you want to be friendly or not mm-hmm um there were uh 48 entries cards whatever you want to call but there are more people because some of them have two people mm-hmm um that's a lot of friends that's a lot of friends and now what we're looking at we've come up in discussions with other groups that uh maybe the friends of just is always a free thing it's yeah that's kind of what I heard that people kind of objected to have we have a better opportunity to raise money by just doing an ask uh right yeah do an appeal letter an annual appeal letter so by being a friend you provide that contact information it makes it easier to put together your lists right um really is in a position to contribute but they want to support the town hall so they say well what if I just volunteer right well okay that's that's worth noting right you know some people might not be able to even afford whatever but they could show up to help with events exactly um so I wanted to make sure that was on everyone's radar and we'll be discussing that some more this Thursday sounds great and then the other thing to put on everyone's radar is dates aren't finalized but tentatively the second or third or the third or fourth week in June will be the new premiere of the latest show presented by the gospel hall of players are you one of those them too? I'm a player? no I'm a player but I'm not a gospel hall of players hahaha it's two Irish glasses who's this by? is he right? no it's um Chris and Bob I believe Chris called it? yeah right and Bob Hannah Hannah yeah so very good that's the latest from the friends up front all questions are very good nice work you guys got a lot going yep we're covering a lot of room wow yeah you know it's exciting too yeah seeing that happen you know you've been wanting to see that for so long yeah great unbelievable dream come true so more back to more boringness stuff I went to a does anybody have any more questions for quick I went to the Woodbury volunteer fire department building committee no let's see let's see not only did I get the name of a chiropractor to see about my leg but let's see there may be a special town meeting in the fall they might request a special town meeting in the fall here do a bond vote here both combined meeting we'd have to do it separate I suggested that they do public informational meetings they were talking about doing a bond vote and I said I'm going to do a bond vote why don't you do it at the same time as the general election so we don't have to have two elections which saves money saves staff time they didn't think about that now they are you know do it when we're doing a general election if you want to turn out of people this general election would be the time to do it and then we're going to do public informational meetings one in Calis one in Woodbury to bring people up to speed we're fundraising going on right now are they still eyeballing that site right in town the one right across the one that was donated I guess it was donated by the credit union so part of this thing that will happen in the spring is the deconstruction of that house this coming spring deconstruction on the current building across the land and I suggested that like we did here with the town hall that they use you know some of the town trucks to hallway debris or the town equipment if they needed it so Calis maybe asked to also contribute to letting our guys help out with that deconstruction and removal of equipment Steve give her a Steve picking picking I know Seth's picking okay he's donating he's donating a lot of time kind of as the construction kind of project manager person I don't know him but it's somebody that they all seem to know they're really looking they who was it when I think it was Paul Sarudy said that he's current call to disiliter you take care hi guys Yeah, I hope you feel better. Yeah, get better. Call to order. All right, couple minutes after seven. Public comment for items not on the agenda. I know you guys are both here for something that's on the agenda, so. Okay. All right. Do you have any other comments? We're gonna shut you down if you don't say it now. Okay. Change it. Dwayne Allman. Oh, at least he took his hat off. Like. All right. Oh, wait, I wish I had some money, but. If you had it, it's gonna be much good now, either, doesn't it? You don't want his motorcycle. All right. So Sharon and John have taken the oath of office. We're gonna skip over a couple of these other items, but I think we can schedule, official meeting schedule dates, which is the second and fourth Monday of every month. Does everybody still agree to that? At seven o'clock here at the town office, we may go over to the town hall if and when it's open, but this is what we need. This here. Yeah, about that part. Right. Locations for posting the meeting notices, which we already, we do, Maple Corner, the town office. We were doing East Calis store, but it's closed now, so I'm going to propose that we post it at the post office on the Bolton Board outside there. There is one. In East Calis post office. And I always put it on front porch form. And this is the same posting location. Well, it's the post office building, but it's the East Calis rec building. It should be the East Calis rec building. It's the East Calis rec building, which houses the post office. That's how people know it. Yes. And there's a Bolton Board right out front. Because the Bolton Board would not be the post office. It would be the East Calis rec building. You're probably right. Yeah. So, and I will notify all the other boards and commissions that that's where select board is designating that notices need to be posted. Authorize a designated select board member to sign orders on behalf of the town, which is what I've been doing. So, would somebody like to make a motion to approve those items? So moved. Yeah. Second. All right. Is there any further discussion and questions? All right. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. All right. Operations manager. I don't know if Toby had anything or if he was going to show up. So, to be clear, Katie, we authorized Denise into that section of the law. Great. All right. I mean, we don't have a whole lot tonight. So I'm hoping that maybe after we get down with some of this stuff, we can resume discussion about the union issues. So, I think I forwarded to everybody and it should be in the folder. David Healy's request for the board to send a letter of support for Grant's grant application to the Department of Public Service. So... It's just $60,000 or a grant or something. Wouldn't it be that? I know, I can get a 60. I think that's what they do. Yeah, I read it somewhere else. Yeah, it's not here, but I think that's right. Now, he spoke about that the last time he was here. And I thought the CB5 already got that grant. This is for WEC. This is for the WEC. It says... Option electric. The town is primarily served by Washington Electric. Right. And is a member of the CB Fiber Communication Union District. We are in urgent need of high-speed broadband for the future vitality of our community. Blah, blah, blah. I don't have the attachment to this one. I don't have the attachment. I just got the letter of support, which is the email. I didn't put an attachment in, I'm sorry. Did it not come through? I cannot, Gmail makes me crazy. Can I send something? You need to make a copy for people on social media. Yeah. And for some reason, if you don't do it right, the attachment that somebody sent. Goes away? He doesn't go to the... Well, this is a PDF. I think I want to hear what I should have told you. No, it's consolidated. I am. It's consolidated, but it's not going to be used. It's not going to be used. So what they're asking is that we submit a letter in support of Washington Electric co-op's application for a broadband innovation grant. Oh, okay. Of course. So this is separate from the $60,000 grant they already got. Yeah, that's my understanding. That's CV5 or already got that grant. This is for Washington Electric to get a grant. So I see this as good news, because I know Washington Electric was unsure whether they'd be involved or to what level they'd get involved. So this will allow for them to assess what they're involved in. Their system, their... Well, isn't it Wex poles that they would switch? Yeah, yeah. The stuff on, so it makes sense. But Wex has trucks, right, in the equipment. So if CB-Pyber could work out with Wex, at least in their territory. Wouldn't help me. A coordinated thing. Then CB-Pyber isn't hiring some contractor. They can Wex, and if Wex are partnering, Wex could then do the billing. There's a whole number of... Do you remember Wex did that email service? What was that? They worked with that company at a hardware company and then they sold, remember that? Mm-hmm. Yeah, they included it in our electric bill, which we signed up for, it was $7.95 a month, or something, for email service. It's the email that that was attached to it. Because they had the ability to do billing, and it was a nonprofit and everything. So I think they might open up some ways like that. And that's great. I was hopeful they would do that. So would somebody like to make a motion to say that we will send a letter of support? So it's not a letter we sign off on. Yeah, it is. Oh, okay. So they prepare that for us? Yeah. Oh, that's what I'm reading. Yeah, that is okay. Okay, yeah, so that we sign this letter of support as coming from us. Right. I'd make that motion. I would like to make a friendly amendment that we authorize Denise to sign it on behalf of the select board. Correct, that would seem much friendly. That'd be great. I need a second first of mine. Second. And then, Cliff. I would like to make a friendly amendment that we authorize, the select board authorizes Denise, we look to sign it on behalf of all of us. I see that as friendly. Okay, is there a second to Cliff's? You don't need it. Okay, it's friendly, you don't need it. I agree with the amendment. Okay, then. Are we ready to vote? That's the second area. Oh, typo. Where? Lowering, you forgot the ER. And lowering the costs. Good, I will fix that. Denise, would you mind that last sentence? Bring high-speed broadband to our entire community? Oh, yeah. It's going to be like a two. Good. Good, thank you. So we want to rescind everything right now. I would, the understanding is that there are any administrative fixes that that's incorporated with our authorization. Okay, if anybody finds any other typos, let me know. Fine. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Okay. Very nice letter. Very good. All right. Good news. Mr. and Mrs. Peltjunk. Yes, it's mostly Mr. You can come sit here, Greg. I don't know where I did the sit. Anywhere. Chair, that's on the end. It's got a sparker in it. It will have. Rose controls that tonight. She's a killer. Okay, so explain what we have on the board. What is on the board that was pre-given to all the select men is the problem. Select men? Select persons. Thank you. Okay, persons. I'll change that. John McCullough brought to you your attention a couple of meetings back about the snow coming off the town halls, roof slamming against the side of the building, building up with ice to pop the windows out. And then he called, I called him and we talked and he at the time already went on to the used market to see what was available. And what I came up with because I thought of using the big town escalator, okay? Since it sits all winter, but then having a basically a 24,000 pound machine down there got pretty well voted down when John told me on the west side of the building, we have less than 10 feet to work with before we come to the septic and the pump stations. And the septic field. So then I thought about doing a skid steer because I've owned a skid steer bobcat for since 1995. And I thought, well, a snowboard. Then I said to myself, well, the snow is not like it used to be nice and fluffy and powdery and go. It basically turns into a glacier ice. And John emphasized that he was on the internet looking at little mini escalators that have a bucket and a blade so you can scrape it and just throw it on the side or get it out of the way. We're a skid steer, you gotta either drive it in, turn it around and you just don't have spice to do the work. So then I went on a used market after him and I talked through the letter. Why don't you talk about new first because that's what's here. Well, I'm leading up to the new prices. Okay, there's the two new prices there are basically from Champlain Equipment and they're brand new. They will be under the municipal price, which is like, I can't believe what the price the municipal governments pay, but okay. You think that's so hard? No, I think that's very low because when I went there as a private person to talk to him about buying a two that without a fund, when he gave me the prices, I just about dropped. It was those retail prices? It was retail prices on the left hand side and I said, you gotta be kidding me. It's one of the six mini. Yep, so the difference between the two machines is one is about a thousand pounds bigger than the other one. And it's a little more stable platform. The little one is perfect stays in with its tracks area like it's six feet wide and it'll swing in its area. The other one has a little overhang but you can always make the second, the more pricier one do better work because it's a stable platform. It's a little bigger, it's a little heavier and I know when that snow comes off that roof over there after I went over and looked at it, it's gotta be in glacier on both sides of it. So you guys invested a half a million dollars into a building that's gonna build up eventually and we don't have enough common laborers with shovels and picks to dig it out. So then you could scroll down. So that's the kind of size of it. It's a little one, it's got a cab and the two bins both come with a flat 30 inch cleanup bucket which is a flat bucket and I also had them speck of one with teeth on it because then I started thinking to myself, okay, what happens if they find stuff that's so frozen because they couldn't get at it for three or four days that it froze down like a glacier? You're gonna need something that can rip at it. Well, John talked about one that does. That's exactly what this is. But instead of a flat edge bucket, maybe get one with some teeth on it. But right in the front of those tracks, you can see it does have a blade there. It does have a little dozer blade, so you're gonna keep pushing the stuff up in front of you or cleaning up your area and it would allow you to go on, especially the western side seemed to be the most critical because of the septic systems. Well, but John, I think was still concerned that that was too big for the area. Well. No, not these little ones. No, these are the baby ones. These here are small, they're not like my 35 tons. Yeah, these are the small little ones. And then, so as a basis of comparison, Greg researched online, he went to the website called use. Bobcatsuse.com website. And so he found all of these. I've told John about this. And so that's basically, those are used, well, that's because of your municipal rating. And I have a feeling of this. By the time I set it so it's delivered if the proposal goes through you folks here, it'll be delivered right over there versus trying to get it from Chio, California, or Phoenix, Arizona, or Canada. Chico. Okay, Chico, whatever. But the idea is it's local, it's warranty. And that was the flat price to the municipal. I don't know what a lease purchase plan is. I didn't go any farther than just get the basics. Quite frankly, we don't have any money to buy anything right now. We'll have to get it authorized next year. Right, we'd have to get it authorized next year, which means it's also, again, too late for snow season. Or we got through this year, and we'll get through the next year. Oh, you don't have a lease purchase. Or the other idea is what happens? A lease purchase. What happens to your end of the season money if the highway department has anything left over? It goes into the highway equipment reserve fund. This isn't highway, this is town hall. We don't need this for highway, do we? I would imagine it could still be used for a lot of things with the highway when they're digging out from. Small ditching. Small ditching, cleaning out culverts. We want a ditching boat, okay. Please don't trash it. We have cleaning out culverts. I imagine there's a lot of things that could get used for the highway. We don't want a ditching bucket. Right. And it's little, so it could get. That's what whenever it uses, that's their only excavator. Is that the only one? Is it really? That's what they do their ditches with. They could get in little places where the big. That's why I would actually, I would think it a bigger, the two of them, if you're going to plan on letting the town people use it, because the small ones are like 6,000 pounds, which is 7,000 pounds. My question is though, if it was, because we, in the wintertime, we would have to leave it down at the town hall. Correct. Is it going to start? Yeah, but make sure that it's stuck in a block heater on it, like all my equipment has block. So you know where this is going to go? So then they're going to need a shed building to put it in. Well, it actually. This is like as things, well, you know how that's going to work. You got the $35,000 piece of equipment, you're going to sit outside. Well, I do. You do. I do, I use the left down for you to $160,000 trans. And you have a 40 by 60 shop that a lot of equipment is inside. He did. Now it is, wasn't in the early days. Yeah. Well, I mean, if anybody else can come up with another idea about how we can manage and maintain, you know, that valuable gem that we have. I mean, I just came down Kent Hill Road and you could see it. And, you know, John did a great job whoever helped him with the plywood against the windows. Yes, it's something we didn't even think about. Yeah, I know. Doing the building. Yeah. So just so folks know, Pat, we put a standing seam roof on there. And so, you know, that works. There's no stuff in any of those, all of them. Sure. And it comes up over the windows. And the concern is, so we'll undo the windows. One comes down and the next load hits that. That's good. There's no such records, but that happens a lot. Really? Yeah. Yeah, and those are all restored historical windows and we don't want them to get smashed. Yeah. We pay to have them restored the windows. I can't anticipate a question that someone in the town might ask, and that is, can we rent these? You can, about $15,000 to $2,000 a month for four to five months. So by the time you did five years of it, you bought one and then you had to pay to load and charge. Then you got to move it and move it out. It's a hundred bucks a pop. Oh, it's going to come out of probably on an Essex area. No, I mean, somebody always had that question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The apartment ransom, but that's $800 to move that. Trust me, I know already. Yeah. It sounds like a method. Yeah, I was going to rent a piece of equipment and the load charge dissuaded me. So it's kind of open to you guys. Yeah. I really stress that just to think of the new side over anything used because you have no idea of what happened. The municipal rate kills the whole thing. It doesn't kill it. It enhances it. It's too good to be. It kills the idea of buying a new stuff. The news rig. Right. So if you guys want me to entertain, I could talk to Duff and see what a lease purchase would be with the municipal rate and stretch it out over a five-year period of hours. Yeah, yeah. And maybe call around and see what it would cost to rent one. Oh, I get it. I really don't know. Well, no, but I mean just so we know, it would cost four, four thousand a month for what we need to be able to say. Okay. Yeah, so just get the rent. Lease purchase. Lease all pizza equipment at Marshall. Oh yeah, well I'll ask Tim. Right, they do rent. They do rent. Yeah, I mean. Oh yeah, they do. I mean, it's good to have all the information. Yeah, right, right. And then we'll weigh it all on. So if you guys decide after you're gonna have me coming back again, I see that. Well, we like having you here. I know. You feel guilty that I would stay home and then maybe take a nap on it or do you? Mm-hmm. Right, you're right. That's all I did about me. So, do I proceed on getting the lease numbers? Do I proceed on? The lease numbers? The rental numbers? Rental. If there was a way that we could put like these magic deflectors or something, some of the stuff came down and hit them. Hang on, like there's a structural. Yeah. Yeah. I mean some of that stuff's gotta be wicked heavy. I mean, it's happening right now at my house. I'm with the standing seat where Rodgers put out they're trying to get huge, huge things of ice. Would you want to go five years? Seven years? What would you guys think for a lease for five years? Okay. You could put butterflies in snowmobiles and rentals. They still have a lot of it, probably not four months. Four months of those things, actually, because it tears, all that weight tears on us. The rest did you guys want? Unless it was designed. So that covered everything, right, guys? These purchase rates? I know rental price. For four months. And last year, when we were dealing with the town hall, we had to put all this money and work into it, so nobody was using it. I'm gonna say four months because now it's being used and it's being heated. You see, when it wasn't being heated, then it's snowed. Yeah, but eventually you get a sunny day. Right. We did have nice storms of fluffy factor for 150 years, and now we have fluffy factor, and three days later, we have wet to make a nice burn. And then everything comes off, and we have... Thank you, Mr. Pellchuck. You have Southern New England snow. Thank you. You're the best. Thank you. Welcome. Snow falls in the chain. Did you drop away? Yeah. So, you guys see me in two weeks, then? Probably. And you would love probably those to send you another email and all the... You could type it. No, no. Just add another page. I will admit, there is no grammar problems here because... Rose did. No, the spell check. No, the Pell check. Pell check did spell check. Pell check is done. Pell check, spell check. Because I know better my scrap paper wasn't presentable. Oh, okay. So she made it presentable, of course. Very good. All right, I'll get the rest of the data. You guys can think of what you can do. All right, thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Greg. All right, thank you for the committee of one, Rose. Thanks. Thanks for offering to... Thank you. Do this. Cheers. I'm going home now. Okay, I'll see you later on. Don't worry. Told them I'm going to select the meeting and just take a moment to turn that off. Sorry, folks. What was the nerve? Who was excited? Thank you. That was Jim Pittman. In case you didn't hear. Have a nice day. See you guys later. All right, thanks, Greg. See you, Greg. Okay, so let's recap town meeting. It was the issue of the location of town meeting was raised. I think it gets raised every year. And we did a straw hole. Those that were there, the majority were town hall, but keep in mind that there were like 230, maybe more people at town meeting. We had time, we didn't know how many people were there and there might have been more than 230, but there was at least 230, I believe. Don't forget, we have signed the usage agreement with the school so that no matter what happens with the school, we still have the right to use that space. It works out really well. The kitchen works well for lunch. Not that we're not going to have a kitchen of sorts over there, but it's not going to be as good as what the school has. And the capacity over here, I think is 120. 135. 135. The existing septic system, we could increase that if we brought in some port bodies. But what's the building approved for by the state? Yeah, the fire called it. It's not. We're waiting for the fire inspector. Fire monitor. Yeah, we're waiting for the certificate of occupancy. We'll have all of that. The real limiting factor becomes worried with the people. How many chairs can you fit in there? The other thing that we'd have to consider, we were looking at the renovation and ways we could possibly accommodate a town meeting there. There was discussion of being able to use both levels and having monitors for the people to be able to see the select board and the speakers and whatnot, which is fine. Some other logistical considerations though, because your moderators up here, let's say on the upper level, and somebody downstairs has a question. How's it going to see them? Right. So you're gonna have to have a camera that's feeding the downstairs upstairs as well as the upstairs downstairs. These are all things that can be dealt with, but they are factors that would have to be considered. And I don't know how the sound would be. I mean, the sound right now at the school that already sets up is great. And I wouldn't want to be in the downstairs. I wouldn't either. Is it diminished value there and the quality of participation? Well, plus if we're doing a lunch there now, the people that are there. Getting home. I was gonna say, yeah, the school, the kids are daycare. I mean, ideally we could have it at the town hall because that's where it should be. But I think if we want to make sure that we're open and transparent and accessible to the public, the school is working out well. However, we could also consider having informational meetings there in advance of town hall meetings, town day meetings. Yeah, I mean, like this, when the school has there. The Saturday before or something like that. Well, there's the other part. Somebody dug a little bit up and I tend to agree increasingly people don't have a town meeting on, you know. The only people who really get town meeting day off are teachers and state employees. So you have to take a day off from work just to take a town meeting. That's costly and most people can't afford to do that. And unfortunately the legislature, no matter what the political makeup is, they never can seem to make it the law that everyone has town meeting day off. I thought they were going to do that. They've been talking about this for 30 years. Oh, I thought the mayor was talking about it last year. The Republicans blame the Dems, the Dems blame the Republicans, but when each is in control, they never seem to be able to figure out how to do that. They should be on the out for everybody. You know, I think they're all chicken. Yeah, middle sex doesn't have 430 town town meeting followed by a dinner. Yeah, so I was thinking if we want to experiment like we did with moving the venue to the school, which I think is a success. I think the sound system is wonderful. People can now hear. There were a lot of people, particularly elderly who were struggling to hear. You know, party, two of us have got that sound system dialed in. There's plenty of room in this good bathroom facility. And parking, better parking. You don't have to navigate those stairs going up if you're handicapped. I know we got the elevator and all that, but I mean, it's just really friendly. And I don't see any downside to the school. And we should be using that school building. We're paying taxes on that too. Yeah, well, what just dawned on me is now that the renovation is nearly complete and we'll be able to have different other town functions there or cultural events. Maybe people will feel like, okay, I still get to see the town and get to be there. And yeah, it's okay, I'll go to the school for the town meeting, but so they'll still be able to... I think it's a really important point, because the town agreed to invest in renewing the building and giving it another life. And I think the sentiment that was expressed in that straw vote was that we want to see the return on that investment now. Right, people want us to use that building and we will. I mean, once it's up, we get our certificate of occupancy and stuff. There's a lot of board and commission meetings that can happen right over there. Pat, did you want to say anything? You've got a beautiful job covering. And I would just say at the last time that I went to the one over here, the last one we had here, I sat three quarters of the way up on that side over there and could see the back and doors from where I was. And I wouldn't even hazard a guess as to how many people came up, opened the door, looked around inside and said, see you later. Yeah, we don't want to know. That's not right. No, we don't want to know. That's right. It was fall. That shouldn't happen though, regardless. And at least at the school, if people don't want to go, that's their prerogative. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They can't go because the venue limits it. And that's not right. No. And that's what was happening here. Condition and all the side. I don't care, you know, it's a beautiful building. I do want to see it used. But when it stops, people from exercising, they're right to vote. It's time to look for an event. We've done that. We found it. Stay there. Yeah. Yeah, well, thank you. You're in good point. And Denise, we were talking before the meeting that the numbers approached 200 this year. 230. So we had 230 people. That building's no way going to handle 230. I would like to see us try a town meeting. Maybe it's not next year, but in the near future, I'd like to see us try a town meeting the Monday night before. Just to see what do we see in improvement in numbers and improvement in diversity. Katie, can you put that in the middle? Participation. And let's try it, because we tried to school. And I got to tell you, I would not have to move into the school. I know. I was all caught up in that. And when we had it into school, the first year I was already like, this is way better. Yeah, it is way better. And the sound system wasn't dialed in like it is now. It's just great. Oh, this year was great. And I was speculating, we have 230 people on town meeting day when most people are still going to work. I think on Monday night, even quite frankly, there are people who had town meeting and they'll leave names out. Right. And workplaces out, but there were people in this town who had town meeting day off and didn't show up. And I don't know what their reasoning was. That's their prerogative. That's it. Is their prerogative? But maybe those folks would show up on a Monday night. We'll say maybe we'll see less people, but I think it's worth a shot. The loud one, everybody out. Right. Well, Katie's putting it in the minute so we can check out how we go about making that change. How we, I guess I have to think about how we would go. Just announce it. It has to be decided, by the way. I don't know if it has to be decided by the electorate. You know, the voters of the town or not. I think it's the collective voting board of officials. So the VCA, the Justice of the pieces, and there has to be a quorum, and that's how it would be decided. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. It's just a place. I'm just thinking that, you know, we have the election coming up in November where we could put something out to say, you know, what would you think about town meeting on Monday night kind of thing, like a survey kind of thing? I just, without having a meeting to fully flesh out the why we're doing it, and maybe it could be in full sheet with it. Right, we could do both. I would just like it to be informed before people vote on something like that. Well, they're not really voting. They're just giving us a poll, but that could work against the experiment. I think we'd experiment just one time. I'm gonna die. We can have an informational meeting on the town hall about changing the date of vote. I suffered that and do that in the evening. I like that idea. Yeah, and get people involved in helping us make this decision. Yeah. I think we wanna provide as many opportunities as possible for people to provide their input because I know there are people who feel very strongly that they want to see the meeting return to the town hall. Yeah. It's on both sides, I think. Yeah, I mean, we saw some of that there. Right, right, when we took the straw poll. Exactly, yeah. And I respect that, but I also wanna make sure that we're providing people an opportunity to participate and it's not being limited by the space. So anyway, so there's some good ideas. Let's think about Katie's got it in the minutes and she'll put it on my list of things to do, but I think some public informational meetings, one at the town hall, one at the school. Yeah. In the summer. Maybe we could, if there are any other big issues that we've been strolling with, I think we might wanna bring to the meeting and cover it. Yeah, that's good. All right, thank you very much. I appreciate you going. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I've covered it very nicely. Appreciate it. Thank you. Have a good day. Come take care. Come visit us anytime. Okay, well, I'll tell you what, I'm not into politics, but occasionally something comes up. It's about your interest. Thank you. Bring your guitar next time. Groping the second or fourth Monday of every month. It's no better than singing Denise. Oh. See you later. That arose.