 You're welcome back. Well, there is political matters arising as it is and they've been butthole between candidates and supporters of the PDP APC and even other parties and we're here to discuss that today and Many more joining us to discuss that is Dr. Nicholas Felix who is APC's youngest presidential aspirant and now the deputy national youth coordinator APC PCC Welcome, Dr. Felix to the program Thank you for having me. Good morning to you and good morning to Nigeria. Okay Let us begin with your background as a cleric. Am I right? You're a cleric as well What informed what informed your venturing full-scale into politics knowing you have a very flourishing ministry in the Miracle Center International Actually politics as a result of anger, you know, I was mad at the situation that happened here in New York we had a black America was insulting in Nigeria over the phone and The insult got to me so bad, you know, I felt like is it a cost to be in Nigeria, you know With that mindset It said to myself You can't run away even though I ran to America thinking I'm free from this trouble the playing here and the negative Notion that I do and I brought Nigeria is evil as for me here. That was a very day. I launched my campaign I still remember January 2018 to come around for president. At least if nobody's willing to throw their heart in the game I should be able to come out and join politics and cause it changed. That's how it began Okay, but as a 2018 that you started you were of the PCP, right? Why did you leave PCP for something else for another party? Um, several reasons I left PCP, I assume that the election was over. I had some Number one, we learned the lesson that smaller parties will not take you there You know that PCP was a very young party and I knew definitely if you want to win a national election Not even the regional, some regional parties can do You know can help you if you're running for a regional election But for a national party, a national election, you need a party that has the spread That was the first reason we decided to leave and join a bigger platform that we know can get us there And number two as you know, I need to register a lot of political parties out of 79 We currently have about 18 left. So the party was to register even if we were going to continue The party no longer has it. So That's why we joined the ABC Okay, but what are some of these things that That you could take from PCP and find in APC because I'm sure you must have done your calculations You must have seen there the ideologies and all that what are the similar ideologies between the PCP and the APC that made you To choose the APC and not any other party You see the largest political party in Africa, not just in Nigeria Apart from being the ruling party I felt The platform is what we need the people are there like I always tell everyone the people are there That's when we came to join them no matter what you have to say about APC the people are there What 14 million register card members in APC? That's a huge platform For us to be able to run For politics so when it come come to our ideology APC believe in progress. It's the all-progressive Congress and you must understand In as much as you stand with what APC believe when you become a candidate, you are bringing your own ideology You're bringing all your own ideas To the party and right now every Nigeria one chain if you look at almost all the manifesto everybody Order for office without the local state of federal level everybody saying the same thing the issue of insecurity the issue of economy These are problem that you don't need Somebody to tell you the average Nigeria experience it everything So it's we all want the same thing but the difference is who has the political we Political mind to get this job done That's where the difference is and well, but you say that APC is a progressive Party would you say they have done something to show that they're really as progressive as the name is Of course you look at infrastructure APC this administration particularly did very well when it come to infrastructure infrastructure Uh, yes in terms of security I always stand by this that they are they could have done more When before they got into office Boko Haram was was heavy in Nigeria Then you know, there were bombings all over the place In in in Nigeria even churches could not gather they were able to tackle Boko Haram Even though his soldiers rose up now you have the bandits I believe they could have strategized more to be able to defeat them just as they did Boko Haram And reduce some of the currencies. So yes, that's when the nearest administration out We continue from where they stop so in terms of infrastructure Uh, they have done where number two for me When it come to our primary election If you monitor this very well, you'll notice another candidate came together unanimously They allow power to go to the south. I don't know what to be more progressive than that This is what PDP could not do But our modern governors stood in unity and said no We have been in power for the past eight years for the sake of equity justice and peace Let power go to the south and power went to the south. I think that is very progressive We need people who will not just be selfish Uh, their personal interests sometimes a lot of the times put the interests of the nation ahead to me. That is very progressive And you look at the party at large, you know, our women leader is a very young is a very young medical doctor The youth have a voice in the party So there are a lot that are going on where for the party and you know, we have to keep improving That's why we are still referred to as a developing nation There's so much to do and we'll keep doing that but I believe the party is a progressive party. Okay. Well Today we are talking about The the war as it were between parties and their supporters and all that but you Like a symbol, you know in the political terrain because you are young and everything So we are going to be talking a lot about you because it is what Nigeria could be that we see in you I hope you don't mind that Now now The all-progressives congress came to power in 2015 on a Three-legged stool if you if you may corruption security economy Now everything we hear about the apc government or most of the things that we hear about the apc government now is infrastructure But we're trying to see where that infrastructure And the three legs on which the apc came into power Married or where the merge Was there infrastructure that will help in the fight of corruption? We don't seem to see was were there infrastructures that will help in making the economy better We don't seem to see where the infrastructure that will help in making security even better than we're finding it right now We don't seem to see so how Is infrastructure that is being peddled now such a good mark for apc You can't talk about infrastructure without infrastructure that affected the economy What affects the economy when you see people have money to spend? So when you like Nigeria The bridge that was just commissioned or that's about to be commissioned by the president Billions of naira was put into it. There were a lot of youth people who worked people who supplied businesses Who made so much money out of that single? Project so if a structure in a way does affect the economy positively again when it comes to the issue of insecurity I believe one of the reasons that A lot of people feel this administration did not do so where it's as a result of insecurity But let's not forget that When the president took over office Bukur Aram and bonding was was was heavy in the nation That has been defeated. Of course It's hard to see rules of banditry rules of the issue of esmerals of I believe they could have done more and I repeated me say it but this administration is winding down. We have just For the few few days from now election will be conducted in another one or two months a new administration will come in The focus is nice. What is this new administration going to do to end this? We can try over speed make what what this president did not do what he campaigned to do and What he refused or could not do but you know in every every nation when politicians campaign There's hardly any president or government would tell me everything they campaign they were able to to achieve But many times they face opposition Many times these don't go as the plan. Well, at least we see that they they make progress If there's one thing I've come to know about question then more moderate is a man. I hate corruption You you we've heard him several times campaign He'll campaign on a new track. You have ten and durians go and vote for who you think is the best candidate Even though I don't like that as a person But you go out there and tell you vote for the best and one of the reasons I believe he allowed The battery design is because I'm sure I'm saying I'm sure this my personal opinion But the cbn government must have Told him that this will help fight corruption free affair election and they have proved it So it's a man that I believe really hates corruption He may not have been able to do it to the best of What he intend to do like with every administration with every president out there Who sometimes they want to do but they are incapacitated because of opposition You know, so They did well But mark will be done. We are still developing and if you look at the manifesto the strategy of our president candidate Is quite Different for what he can pay for He is a an economist a strategist. I believe baller metin will be improve The economy in israel. I am so confident in that I will be so sub I will not be surprised if things begin to change I will be surprised if things don't change But this is a man that is very strategic This is a man that Is very smart. He has vision and he knows how to use talent. That is very key getting the right people around you I believe that's one thing that affected president momentary. They may have been some wrong people in the midst Who did not do what they were supposed to do But I should have you is one man who understands talents Who understand vision and is able to get the right person When you hear people who were in his administration when it was governor You hear how he picked them most of the people he don't know This is not just about I know you come and work for me or come and be the administration Most were recommended never met but as soon as he saw this person can deliver He brought them in and he did so well in Lagos to today that his legacy is there People talk about Lagos and he starts from him. There were governors before him You know, he had people talking about those Those governors, but from him things began to change and Lagos is what it is today So with that mindset, I believe is going to do even more and better If elected president well a lot of those issues are debatable, but um That's not um, well if we have need to revisit them We will revisit them if we have the time But right now we're back to you youngest presidential aspirant of the apc It sounds like a memory verse if if you ask me So please walk us through your experience Contesting with people who could have been your fathers and grandfathers knowing that Even from the time of pcp to this time especially You were you were very young, you know Less than 40 something In fact at the time you contest as first you were about 37 if i'm right Yes, okay, so so what was the experience like? Uh quite different the first time was uh You have some people who did not believe And of course I had so much people who believe in me my wife number one my trust members And a lot of friends that that was very uh, uh Helpful in pursuing this dream, but now crossing over to the bigger party. I must tell you it's totally a different ball game Being a candidate or an aspirant in smaller parties compared to the apc is like Driving a bicycle and driving a trailer at the center, you know, you need two different license To do that two different experience So during the apc you get to understand re-politics You get to see the way it is played you get to understand that Please are not just the way it is with the smaller parties and In as much as we talk with humor, we have to be learning we have to catch up immediately It's one of the reasons that that made me even step down because we could not catch up For example in reaching out to the delegates in the smaller party is quite different with a phone call and uh If you meet is you can meet with one or two persons and you've covered most of the delegates But when it comes to this bigger party There's a structure at a state level you have to go through all of that meet the delegates meet Supposedly some of the people who have influence over these delegates So it's not as easy for the bigger parties like the smaller parties Understanding this fact we began to restrategize we began to rearrange some of the things that That we did like I always I use this analogy to explain it I fly a lot But I always tell person what a pilot who sits on the cockpit From Lagos to Benin or Lagos to Abuja just this 13-linus flight You cannot compare it to the man who has been flying around the world But has never sat on the cockpit because the experience is quite totally different Just by sitting down On the plane. So that's that's the way I compare smaller parties and bigger parties the dynamics is different That joining these bigger parties, especially I call them political gladiators political Fathers These are men who have been important is even before some of us were born I wasn't really moved and bothered by that because this is democracy We don't have a equal rights free hand to go there and contest if there was only one thing I knew they have more than us And most importantly the fund the resources we were very limited in our resources But I never let that be a hindrance because if I think about the resources before we venture on this We were not even beginning the first place, you know, I didn't think much about that I just believe let's get started We'll see how it goes. That's how Obama got started. Obama started and nobody knew who Obama was He was just elected as a senator in Chicago. And before you know, it was one little town meeting The media gave him so much attention. All of a sudden became the president just overnight So I believe the same thing can happen. We don't need to to everyone used out there It won't be taking it to go into politics again The one I'm talking to you don't need to wait until all meeting is right Sussies your popularity everything is right before you begin the journey you can start And see how it goes if Obama wanted to wait for national popularity I'm sure it wouldn't have contested. I didn't know who he was He was just elected as a senator But one event brought him out to the landline and before you know it America ran around him And it became the first black president. So also for us as youth I believe something is going to happen and I am looking beyond 2023 that we're going to be able to get into power Unexpectedly, so if you're out there as a youth you're thinking about politics and you are limited in resources and popularity My advice to you is just get started Dr. Felix, like I did say when we return we'll be talking about some things that people say about you Now some have accused you of being a saboteur Who is only being used to scuttle the presidential ambitions of the competitors of a paid master widely rumored to be tillable For instance, let's say that in 2019 You were just brought into sabotage at tiku and the pdp votes. What will be your response to that? I'm so glad you you're asking this question There's been a video That has been trending out there for the past two three months now With this allegation first of all In the video they said I came second position. I did not come second position I was third in the in the election and The fact that they said I was put there to go and You know the cost pdp to lose if you follow that election you notice Few days before the election. I was actually with atiku And I had no relation or business with apc number three I got just only 110,000 votes There's no way if you add my vote to atiku atiku would have won that election So this is just uh, bloggers who have nothing to do and I will also say They know they are losing this election. They are just looking for excuses to go out there and uh, and run with it The funniest one is the fact that they said, uh As soon as pita will be came on board I decided to register zenith labor party and I am the candidate of zenith labor party I was positioned to go and cost pita will be to lose and I'm I'm surprised that People are believing this because I've received so much cause Anger people getting angry people confirming Nigeria's we are smarter than this For somebody to just go out there just put out something and we just believe it and run with it Yeah, missus me and this is where we get easily deceived by politicians You know, I'm not a candidate of zenith labor party and I did not register any party recently zenith labor party has been there for a long time Just the same way labor party has been there for a very long time Now I'm not a candidate. There's no resemblance in any of these two. So to pedal and you know, put such a rumor out there And they are trending people are believing it He sad is me. I have no connection to to labor party Uh, and to zenith labor party and I've not been paid. Let me make this clear We are not in apc supporting as you want you because I've been paid since the campus started I've not been giving a dime. I've not asked for I've not received a dime We are ready to spend our money to support as you want you That's how much we believe in this course. I'm believing him So anybody that thinks we're doing this because you have been paid you have been giving money as you want you as money Then you have to think again If you think labor party is the only party people are supporting youth energetic You you have missed it. We the youth in apc We are going all the way in whatever we can do to support to make sure she was you with We are going to do it because we believe it in him So that rumor is false. Every bit of it is false. The last one that was said that uh, uh, I came It was a mystic. Uh, there about it was not a mystic We did a lot of work during that 2018 election. Don't forget it just 110 000 votes I mean that's even too small with the work that we did youth believed in us Uh, the president Muhammad Bari signed the not too young to run the Bill into law and give us the opportunity. Nigerians were yearning for youth There were so much young people in the race and let me also clarify that Other candidates in my party like the senators and as of red that were on the same ballot Not on a different election the same paper. They did not come second position third Some did not even get good at all So this was a mystic it would have replicated in other candidates that were on the same ballot We did some work I wasn't big on social media like sure and the rest of them, but I went to the several states I went to schools. I went to churches. I did so much of the grand work that I did not put on social media That's why people thought We didn't do much. Why will you come third position never for don't forget the third position is just 810 000 votes when over 27 million people voted For somebody to come out there and carry a you know present search room or we're buying there Nigerians. I think we need to do way way better than this Okay, but last year you rallied 22 other apc aspirants or 21 something for a meeting with the flag bearer of apc ashiwajubola tino that was August or something there about what was the purpose of that Meeting what was it supposed to achieve? Yeah, the purpose was understanding the candidates was to be able to carry everybody alone You know In speaking to one or two of the candidates I feel some of them feel neglected You know, some of them want to be part of the campaign heavily And I thought it wise if we meet individually, you know, one of the aspirants went to court Uh, of course name who went to court. I felt in in democracy As and as democrats an election is over. Yes, there's pain. Yes, many of many people were hot I was hoped that my candidate did not win but you you you let that go We are now we have a candidate delegates have voted for this candidate And they believe is the best and we believe is the best all of us have what it takes to To to deliver but if the delegate chose him and with the amount of win 1200 I would be one delegate the second person and just 300 that tells you this was a landslide win It was too obvious that this is the right man for the job What we all need to do now is to rally rally So the first meeting was for us to to discuss So, you know, I'll be with everybody to see the assault. Let's join together. Let's win This election and another thing that brought it up for me. I was speaking with somebody Uh, I met him at the hotel lobby. Why were we talking? I was just complaining that my candidate did not win. I was not happy It's a young man. He just made a statement He said sir, your candidate may not have won. He may not have won the primaries But he see your party your party is going to win. He don't mean that exactly this is what we should be doing We are democrats We rally run Our candidate to make sure our candidates win and when he is elected as president I expect every 9 j right doesn't matter if you voted for him or not To join us together to make the country work because we're Nigeria's that's what we are fighting for You know, so that was the essence of the meeting And the next meeting was supposed to meet with uh, uh, the candidate so we can sit down and discuss We're still pushing. I'm believing before the election we have one of that I'm gonna be meeting with his excellency as she was doing To discuss the possibility the schedule is rigorous is tight But to discuss the possibility just to have a chat a meeting with With all the aspirants Just to tie this to um Why people have been saying that uh, you were not really serious about what you're doing is that In ajuran president is not by law supposed to have dual citizenship But you contested anyway with buddha nigerian and us uh passport. How did you feel that was going to work for you? No, you are you are allowed to you know by law you can be a dual citizen And run for president. What is important is you are in nigerian? I was born and raised in nigeria Uh by bet nigeria bloke flows in my vein I always say in in america If people want to ask you where you're from here, nobody asks if you're a citizen They ask you where you're from If you say you are an america, nobody will respond to that They want to know where did you come from because that's where you really are from So dual citizen is accepted in nigeria and I see my going to america as someone who went to learn I see it as going to his school to understand the system that works You know, and i've always said it for us to see a change in our country We need somebody not just who i've visited Somebody who have stayed in this nation Who have a taste of what it takes and you know i should have you was here too in america school year So when you hear him talking about some policies about the credit system student law It's because he understand it here. He has lived here. This is what works here I have a good credit. I can go right now and I have just a little amount of money. I'll buy a car I'll be paying gradually. I can go and buy a house. We just leave your money. I'll be paying gradually We have credit cards. I can go and use it and the pain. This is how america exists This is how america live. This is the system and we call it a great nation But my junior don't have everything is all cash If you don't have the complete money to buy a house, you will never be able to buy house Now we're wondering why we are so slow in development Every developed country from canada to europe to australia. This is the system they operate But we in africa, we don't operate that system. I don't know if it's an african dog The majority of the african nation you don't pay that system So when you hear somebody like him speak like that is because he has not just visited he has lived here He understand The system so I see my coming here as someone who went to be trained and coming back to nigeria now again for For a time like these when the ingerians like they use the word jackpot, you know running away from the country especially huge And here I am 41 years old Being in america You know established here returning back to my country It tells you that this is a heart of sacrifice. So for somebody to say He is not that serious That that is a I think that is an insult to our struggle or your belief in our effort We are working so hard to return back to nigeria in a time like this Most telling my brother is a huge huge sacrifice and that's because we want to serve Okay, let me give you let me take this final question that is about you Before we go back to what the The battle between candidates and supporters and all that is that's Supposed to be like the major thing we're talking about You are now the deputy national youth coordinator not actually the candidate And will never be the president in this dispensation I'm not talking about another one because you might contest again How do you hope to make your ideas work in this administration? Because we've seen situations where your party is going around the country campaigning and telling us how they will make things work And we are wondering why is it or how is it that People in the apc had such lofty ideas and they never gave it to the president to make sure nigeria works Are you going to hoard your own ideas as well to Wait for a time buy your time until when you have the opportunity to leave this country before You go and exhume your ideas or how are you going to make them work in an administration that is not directly yours? You know, you see every president has cabinet members every president Wrong with ideas if you look at When ashua drew went to london to chatter mouse When it was time for questions and answers You saw how he delegated people to respond. I was very excited because that's my kind of leadership It tells me this is not going to be a detector This is a man who's going to to which has been a strike record. Anyway, so I wasn't really surprised because people know him for this That's why when the news came out that he was afraid to answer question You know, it's had this mean that people were running with such news Now it's a man that we you know have people around him What we are praying for is for sure to have the rights people around him, which I know he's going to It's not left for us to bring up our ideas to bring up things to him Of course, we are not the candidates the candidate has his own mind and his own Vision, but whatever you think you can bring on ball As a suggestion to contribute to his administration A question ashua is going to listen. That's one of the things that abstracted me to him I remember what we met September 22nd We had a meeting there were some things I suggested to him and it took them And surprisingly somewhere put in place some are still, you know, still in the process That's what we need as president. It doesn't mean now It's going to take everything you see. No, but no No leader does because some may go at this once you want some may not be The right time But I believe as we share ideas with him in line with his vision I believe he's going to take them uh and run with it. Let me make this Very clear. There's going to be a change in ashua's administration Ashua is a man of vision. Ashua is a good man. I don't want Nigerians to forget this We need a good president somebody who has a political way to take decisions You know being a leader is not easy. You are going to face so much Opposition even within your party even within your cabinet members So you need you need somebody who with them the consequences and don't look at the faces of Those that may be around and make the right decision that will benefit the people That's who ashua do is we need a good man. We don't need a A weakling as a president. Somebody will be angry What's his name? Deborah was killed and The candidates of the pdp put out a post condemn it as soon as there was a little outreach from from the people Immediately was deleted. No, what is wrong is wrong If the debt of Deborah was wrong, it doesn't matter who is angry You make the statement very clear. That's the kind of goodness we're talking about You need somebody who will be able to stand and be policies Even in the midst of staggering opposition remain steadfast. That's who ashua do is and that's why I believe there will be a change In his administration because he will make sure what he wants is what will benefit the people Is this this boldness that you're talking about that he is trying to show us by choosing a muslim deputy Against the cries of Nigerians. He just wants to show us how bold it is Or you think that's the right decision that he should have taken at a time where the volatility in Nigeria has heightened because of the same religious sentiments and ethnic sentiments You see I'll call it boldness on the other hand boldness again to do what is right at the right time You see that in his decision. Why do I say that? This is the first time it's contested. The man has tragically waited all these years for the right time So he's not trying to be a former presidential candidate. He wants to win the election If you look listen to Bobby Taylor one who were the people who recommended Candidates they gave the pros the advantage of picking a muslim candidate disadvantage and also the advantage of Picking the christian vice presidential candidates and when the two Based on his whole calculation of other calculation. It is better to have a minority and a majority Where the problem is is nigerians have decided to divide us even apart from By trying even religiously you and I know the muslims in the south are considered minority When and how that come about? I don't know the christians in the north are considered minorities So to have two minorities in a national election in a presidential ballot It was not wise according to their calculation And that's why he picked a northern who is a muslim just to be able to balance the ticket So it not to spike a christian for Christ's sake this man His wife is a pastor and has been for years some of his children are christians So it's not somebody that we should be afraid of or you know if he's going to hurt the christians No, he would not You know don't forget we are voting for the candidate Is the power that the president gives the vice that is going to to to be able to use so for him as a candidate He's the one we are we that went to the primary election. He's the one that we uh the delegate chose Yes, he picks his vice presidential candidate, but the decision now is which is best which will give us this Uh election why do I speak it so that some people will be happy? No, again that brings me back to my other point making decisions that may not be popular But it's best for the society. That's what we need now as president Many people could have done otherwise and probably Going to the election and when campaigns start those begin to see the disadvantage of having two minorities In the in the on the ballot end up losing the election you begin to regret But there are times you need to make some bold decisions in this case. I'm comfortable with it Do I want it to be a Uh, the vice presidential candidate to be a christian, of course, but it doesn't end there They are going to be ministers who are going to be christians They I'm sure they are going to be some who are going to be pastors who are going to be in his cabinet And there are governors also in the country who are christians over eight governors in a pieces In a piece they are christian. So the vice presidential candidate being a muslim should not defy The totality of this man is just a political calculation To be able to win this election. Okay, right now. Um, let's talk about um, what is really happening Your principle as it is as shawadu has said that um The redesigning of the naira was aimed at him fuel scarcity was aimed at him And el rufa also came up governor el rufa of kaduna state also came up and said that they They are fifth columnist within asorok trying to work Hard to make sure that as shawadu does not succeed Now is it his Strength being tried or is there really a problem in the apc that we need to know? Like every organization There are always issue issue come up The ability to manage crisis is what makes you a leader. Yes This issue has come up. It is obvious when you listen to somebody like el rufa a governor close to the president Close to the leader I don't think that man will come out and say And you know release our statement if you have no credible evidence and prove that this is true And but when you look at it generally, why is this don is searching his at this time? The this could have been done since june before the primary election This could have been done since may last year or better see Wait until after the election Why do why doing it now not just now? You're you're you're taking out the old currency from circulation and you're not putting the new one into circulation Who do you think people are gonna be angry at of course apc? Yeah, they're gonna be angry even though it's not as you have used policies Even though it's not as you have do that is doing it The general statement would be apc apc is doing this to us And shiwaju apc is doing this to us Of course it's going to affect him If I may if I may doctor Yes, are you insinuating that the president is working against a shiwaju because The president is the minister of petroleum The president is the chairman of a committee that has been set to make sure that a fuel is available to Nigerians The president is the one who gave the note they go ahead for the governor of the central bank God willing may fairly to do the redesigning of the notes Every finger on these things that we are talking about points to the president And if there is someone who is working against a shiwaju Through fuel scarcity and redesigning of the naira the president is responsible Are you saying that the president might be working against a shiwaju? Just for So who could do that those things that we are talking about right now because lai mohammed also He practically lives in asu rock aro file. Like you said is close to the presidency fine He goes to asu rock. He is close to the president himself But lai mohammed is a minister of information in these administrations and he came out to say there are no fifth columnists All of them are in apc. All of them are in this government. Who do we believe? Okay, again Let me make it clear the president is not working against a shiwaju on saturday The president was in asu rock. We have family support If you look at the campaign schedule, the president would be being emo the president would be in Lagos The president is campaigning and is telling nigerians to vote for a shiwaju But understand the the procedure here like comedy Atom social modeling stated on sunday on china's television we believe That the cbm government must have told the president That redesigning the niger notes is going to stop corruption in this election And if you know president mohammed barry when he hears corruption the man wakes up because he hates corruption But do you think it will do you think it will stop corruption in this election? No, that's that's the i'm sure that's the message that was given to the president that If we redesigned the niger notes probably those who stuck up the money up We don't have the money to spend and as a result the president gave the go ahead to make sure the niger note is redesigned But on the other hand the president I don't think the president was aware that nigerias are suffering Even the new currency is not in circulation. This is the problem we have If you stop the old naran怒 Make sure there are new naran notes out there. I'm sure there were new naran notes This is not about apc The only reason why we're angry is you're trying to make apc look bad few days to the election so that nigeria's way Will be angry the broad beaver the complaint about beaver as if we were scared of beaver Now they have seen that we are going to walk the election beaver actually helped in our state election now you saw a Candidate the former governor as we claim his position back because the beaver is working for us. We are going about the campaigning We are letting our dreamers know that they look for a different strategy to cost frustration by redesigning the naran Why they helped me? I draw this out. You know, I was just on a rice TV not to dog. This is the old 100 dollar bill this was changed years ago, but he still is a coalition now They have the new one that did not stop this overnight When you break out a new currency, you don't just put policy You have 10 days to go and drop your money. It's supposed to be a gradual process Banks will no longer be releasing the old naran notes to begin without the new one. Yes, doctor You touched on something you touched on something Old naran notes. And yes, you have no uh, uh, uh, new naran notes to give to the people and you spend the people to be happy with Yes, you see that's where the people is. Yeah, I quite understand doctor. Just a moment I believe because I know you will not just come out to speak I quite understand, uh, the frustration I quite understand what what you're talking about giving the apc a bad name But aside from that, um This is like a legacy project for president mohammad buhari, but i'm asking you a personal question It's probably a yes or no answer. Do you think the redesigning of the naran notes Will curb corruption in any way in this election? I don't think you would come any corruption What is what what are we even talking about when it comes to uh, corruption? Is it the responsibility of cbn to provide corruption? That's the question mentally was going to run for president under our party If you are the candidate, we'll be excited. This is going on. We have to just be fair. This is a democratic society Are we really allowed this to happen if he was the candidate of our party? Everybody's angry with apc. Even me that is not even the administration. I have no business. I'm even suffering the same thing Three days that can even wire send any money. I'm sure the network are all jammed up people are angry with everybody Apc as if we are the cause of it. That's why I know that the lee uh Irifan there are people there, but guess what? Here's the news flash and here's the good news to all apc We are winning this election and like everybody said after the election We're gonna call those names out and I can't wait to hear who those people are. We're gonna win this Name calling we've been hearing about name calling. We've been told Boko Haram people There's a list of people who sponsor them. We've not heard it That we've been told a lot of times names that should be In public glass so that we know a lot of things, but we've not heard them. That's not the issue I'll I'll just ask um this This other problem of the president going to some states in the north like kanu katsina And we hear and we've seen some videos that it was pelted and they've been a war of words between the uh dogara of the pdp and also Festus kiamo who is of your pcc the apc pcc Now, I don't know which side you stand. I don't know which What word you would have for situations like that the world that is going on between supporters of these candidates And what really happened in the north just briefly before we take a a break for the news Of course, I I stand with kiamo when I stand with my party And the dogara mentioning that the president is joking because he endorsed the candidate I I don't think that should be coming out of of uh Somebody smart in the heat of campaign few days to election The president out of his busy schedule went to nasa now to campaign and you said he said he's joking joking about what you know So I started with our party on this time like I like I tell people They have written ideas, you know, this is political season. It's a time where politicians throw job Don't be surprised. This is going to happen What is your look at look beyond the job you look beyond the neck calling look beyond the attack And look at the issue. Who is the right person for the job because this is going to happen all over the world all over the world This is my job. It's no exception. I still have dr. Nicholas philis talking with us here on the show Dr philis not only is a politician, but he's also a cleric who has a very Big christen center if I must say that so right now I'm jettisoning the fact that he belongs to apc and I'm just talking to him as a concerned Nigerian And also someone who controls people from the pulpit and that I do not mean just being a christian. I mean clerics of all religions what they need to do first of all, let's start with political followership It's been a very consistent thing in our polity that we follow politics like people follow clubs football clubs It doesn't matter what is happening. People don't even want to enjoy the football. They just want to see their team win so In your capacity as a man of god Not a politician now How do you think Is or politics is supposed to be played By citizens of a country who want their country to work Especially if they are men and women of faith How do we now marry faith? That is religion and politics and make it work Yeah, I'm so glad you asked that question and You see, uh, the Nigerian church has not been involved in politics Growing up, they've always asked us to prepare to go to heaven You know that politics is evil Politics is dirty. You don't need to get into politics And that's what you see then the church is suffering today The church is just waking up just like the youth are waking up also So I encourage everyone out there pastors You know christians And uh to get into politics This is not the case with the muslim because they're already very much involved I would love to also call them in but they're already there But for us as christians we need to get into politics Even the bible clearly declares when they wicked rule the people suffer When they write just rule the people rejoice If you don't go into politics and you allow those who don't mean well for the country To get into power your prayer point in nigeria will increase That's why today there are things we're praying for in nigeria that we are not supposed to be praying for Look at how god has shown us favor as a nation bless us with minimal resources natural oil And all of that and yet we are disturbing him every day with prayers because we have not managed it well Supposed to be one of the most blessed nation on earth today But because the the good people are venture out of politics And that's why we are we are here today So I encourage everyone out there to get into politics Politics is not a dirty game people just play it dirty So when you have clean people go into politics, they'll play it clean and if the good people refuse to join politics Uh, I think we're going to pay the price. So there's nothing wrong Uh for even pastors who get into politics There's nothing wrong in pastors now and calling to your members who want for various offices So we can cause a change in the land Okay, what about the youths especially youths of nowadays the gen z's and the other ones? That we're seeing Patience is a virtue that is not so common nowadays And the youth think the political terrain is fertile enough to accept the youths with this kind of attitude with this kind of disposition Do you think the Nigerian youth is ripe enough to go into politics with the situation in the political Structure and terrain right now in Nigeria and if they are ripe enough What do they need to do because you are a youth yourself and If you can't do it, they too can do it. So what are some tips for them? Yes, if I can do it, you definitely can do it even more. Now to the youths, I always say this because I notice Uh, there are a lot of candidates, especially those who are in the liberal party movement They get very very very insulting. They attack you from left and right This is not how we are going to learn our politics Especially you see youth attacking fellow youths because we don't support your candidates Sometimes I would wonder if they know that this is democracy. This is not dictatorship We have three leading candidates And as in Nigeria, we all have our legal right moral right to vote and support wherever we want to support You know, so if they must take us serious, we must be very calculating all these insults on social media Nobody's going to take us serious I don't want it to get to where now the Nigeria youth are categorized as very irresponsible people That's what many of us are standing out that We are not the average Nigeria youth who go out there insulting people who go out there and don't take responsibility And you know to do the right thing. No, there are still people out there Nigeria youth Who are ready to take over the party who are on the same race with them Ready to take over when the time is right. So to every youth out there, you know Just checking some of my my responses so people get very insulting because I'm not supporting your candidates We went through a primary election. I see what you want the the the election I'm Verified by inec certified by inec. I was giving the ticket to run under the platform We all have the right to vote for him if we so choose to and I must say it's the best candidate that we give the youth a voice I know that for sure. That's why I'm here on this platform company for him So for youth out there to be insulting, you know, making jest of them Some people making mockery is is it's so wrong and today you see people talking about his hair talking about his age To grow old is a blessing. Let's not make mockery of that. We have to be more Responsible than this. We are better than this as youth in Nigeria We don't want to be classified people who are not serious You think she's only there is going to help you think because you have data You can go and insult people. That's how you are going to cross the chain No, you will not cross the chain like that rather than still put you at the back Before you know it next election will come and the same to repeat itself We have to be more serious. No need to be insulting people. Let's get on the issues If you feel your candidate is the best, let me know why is you think is the best? I will also explain to you why my is the best not need to be insulting And dragging people calling names and all manner of things that is very wrong. We need to do better than this Yes, thank you for that munition. But um, is the political Ground fertile enough for the youths what are some of the things that you did before you broke into The the the arena so to speak that you are seeing yourself right now What are the steps that you needed to take because some youths may not even know how to go about it If they want to belong or they want to participate very well in politics Some have had the impression that politics needs a lot of money, which they don't have Some have the impression that politics needs a lot of connections We they may not have and so on and so forth. So tell us describe to us how easy or otherwise It will be for a youth for a young man or a young woman to break into the political scene and make a name The first thing is your drive your passion the reason That's the reason I will keep you in politics. That's why in 2019 the most of the candidates have quit politics because It's brutal. This is not a joke. It's not for the weakling. It's not for weak people You have to be you have to be bold. You have to be ready to take up Issues attacks left and right. So that's the first step and what is your passion? What is your drive? Are you just going there to eat from the national key or you're just going there for your name? You will not survive the political arena for me My passion is the the desire to cause a change the need for a change I see you every day people are yearning. They are just waiting for you to get there So you can cause a change. This is what is keeping me on So number two, you don't need to wait to have a lot of money You need to have a vision to get into the political race number three again You cannot be insulting these people and you want them to open it up for you That's one of the things some people don't know when it comes to politics Yes, they are not doing some of the things that ought to be done But you need to be able to get on board to be able to make the change You don't have to be president to begin a change. You can be a counselor Start making change the effective change from there a house of rep member Whatever position you find yourself at the moment, but going out there is something that we have Candidate today. I don't want to mention the who every body in Nigeria. They are evil every politician out there They are no good. If it's up to him arrest all of them send them to do all of this You will never get access to be able to cause the change You will just become frustrated out of the game. So the first thing is to be able to come in I understand there are so much to be done. I understand that Everything is not working right. Identify a few persons that may be doing good here and there Take example like the governor of Oregon State It's one man I saw who has done great things in this in this state I mean compared to all that he has did well Because the governor of national state is a man one of the governors I see a lot of youth even in their 20s in his administration You are honest people like that. They may not be the best. They may not have done everything So right for the fact that this man commissioner of youth and sport is a young man. I know him very well You have a lot of commissioners who are young people. These are young men Governors you can associate me, you know draw close to them so that they can pull you in and gradually get your Your self in for going on social media Inserting them making money of them. All of them are evil. They should all die It's not going to work. We will never make it like that. We'll keep doing the same thing before you know it Those who were 30 Company now they are in their 50s. They are in their 60s That will be we're looking for a new generation to come up If this generation don't get it right we will never be able to make it there And the further we go it gets worse. You need to prepare them self now and get on the court Get on the raise with them. So we'll be able to take over so they can prepare the future for us and also prepare us For the future but all this is sort of out there, you know Or the only thing we have time for social media and insulting people who don't believe in your candidate We need to do better than these as you Okay, thank you very much. Dr. Felix for coming on the show. Dr. Felix is a national youth coordinator apc PCC. Thank you very much for being a part of our program Thank you for having me. It was so nice hanging around with you. Do you see? Okay, like I said, Dr. Felix is a deputy national youth coordinator apc PCC he is a cleric, but is also a politician and is admonishing everybody that When good people are in power the people will rejoice and who are you if you're good? You should be in power. You should struggle to be in power so that your people will rejoice if you're bad Well, that's matter for another day. Well, this is our Nigeria. No matter how biting the condition might be wherever you stand These two shall pass. Let's take everything one day at a time. We will survive this And you should not take laws into your hands because you don't find the naira or you don't find the fuel God might also be using it to talk to you that you should stay one place enjoy less and save more And you know a lot of other things will be added on to you but the main thing is that we have 18 days 19 hours and 35 minutes to the presidential election If you have not prepared yourself do so now With all the things that you need to do do them so that that day you can vote for a candidate of your choice It's been a wonderful run with you guys Let's do it again tomorrow morning at 11 o'clock. My name is Nyam Gul Agadji on behalf of the entire team saying bye for now