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There's too many light-skinned niggas now. Yeah, yeah, what do you mean, what do you mean? What do you mean, what do you mean, what do you mean, what do you mean? Shut your ears up, man. I mean, you're pulling the niggas. Elosha, damn, my... Too many tall, young, yellow niggas. Like, God, damn. See what I'm saying? See, they don't want a mini hill. Damn, I didn't say that. Nah, check this out. Don't grab it. Nah, is he light-skinned or dark-skinned? I'm right in between of them. He brown. Who's that? He's brown. Let me tell you. Chipotle Bad Brown niggas. Shut your ears up, man. Chipotle Bad Brown. I'm a champion. I'm a champion. Chipotle Bad Brown on your head. Cigarillo Brown. You feel me? Right. They got to play in the Golden Arrow, though. Yeah, that shit was tough, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I loved it. The yellow is different. It was definitely like that, though. Yeah. It hit them up for a lot of them. Hell, yeah, it was good. I couldn't have done it, though. Nah, not today. Oh, hell no. Especially when they got they look... What? What do they got? When they got they little booth things in the audience. Some niggas can't focus. Man, I didn't know I was like this. Them boys lost their mind back then. Man, I don't even know. I don't know if I'll be coming to the gym. I'll be like, God damn me. I don't know if I'll be coming to the gym. I'm like, shit on them. Man, what's up? What's up? D-Day. D-Day. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Short and then short and then short, man. They stay from overseas. Man, I tell you. Them niggas go overseas too much. They can go to L.A. Fitton. They got there with the draws on them. They dress like a monster. That's what that is. With the draws on them. With the draws on them. All right. See what I'm saying? What we doing? We doing legacy. That shit crazy. That's what I'm saying. I ain't going in there, then. I'm gonna stay the fuck away from that. Look, if a nigga gonna do that, I ain't going in there. Like, this is a God damn spot in Charlotte, where I live in Charlotte, North Carolina. I got that YMCA downtown. I think it's called the Dile Wife. Man, I went in that motherfucker like a couple of times. Man, these motherfucking white men be walking around in that motherfucker. Just bare ass. Just, just walking around in motherfucker. I'm like, what the fuck is going on in this motherfucker? They ain't even in the locker room. I'm like, yeah. Yo, man. They ought to go to scale right there by the door, man. And no, in the locker. And that's just where you're at there when you're going to change clothes. And these motherfuckers coming to God damn steam room. I'm sitting in the steam room. Oh, shit, yeah. That's what I want. Get all this alcohol and shit out, man. Get all this shit out, man. I'm laid back. Man, the motherfuckers coming there with the balls hanging out and all that. Oh, man, I had to get out of there. Man, these white folks who got there, man, it's a lot of queer motherfuckers. I ain't got nothing against it. Now, if somebody in here doing that shit, man, that's what you're doing. Now, shit. But I'm just saying I ain't got nothing against it. That's just staying your life. That's all I'm saying. But I'm just saying, man. But God damn, that's what stopped me from going to your establishment. If I see shit like that, I ain't going to be gone. They can't put no sand up. Warning. Maybe you can't do that because you can't do that shit. So that's what I am. I don't, I try to damn ride a bike like I do, get up in the morning, ride my bike. I was going to ask you, what does retirement look like? Oh, man, God damn, it's a beautiful thing, though. But the only thing, you got to still take care of your mom for the self-nuclear. You can't goddamn just be like today's cool. You know, it's a good life. You know, goddamn, every day is the weekend. You know, so, you know, so. And then, but you got to damn take care of yourself. You know, on the other split side of this shit, because, you know, I'm 58 years old, so. How the hell I was going to know that? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, this is. Chail, let's switch it up to the original content, AKA the living. There you go. Hell, yeah. Let's go. Hell, yeah. How old was you when you got to leave? Oh, shit, I was, I was an old ass goddamn nigga. You know, back in the day, when I come in, there wasn't nothing that's come out and, and first year and come out of high school and shit. So, the shit was like, it was like, I was 23, I think. Yeah, 23. Yeah, I was 23. Four years, I got a split. Oh, yeah, yeah. All the time leading squad at the University of Florida. Oh, let's go, baby. Let's go. You still holding that down too, huh? Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, they motherfuckers. Man, these motherfuckers ain't gonna stay in school long enough to do what I did. You know what I mean? Motherfucker, he's holding it first year. Yeah. You know. Yeah, they beat Joe Recker in one year. That's a bad motherfucker. That's what I'm trying to say, my son. There we go. There we go. We put the code in. Thank you, damn, Mike. That shit ain't real. All the time leading squad. Yeah, yeah. Well, I got about 18 motherfucker records at that school, that basketball. Oh, you moved out. We ain't touching them. You went crazy. Mm-hmm. You was in the swamp. You said you was in the swamp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm born and raised out of Gainesville. Oh, so you was right in New York, y'all. How'd that go? Yeah, I'm from Gainesville. Yeah, man, I think I grew up about two and a half miles away from that motherfucker. Mm-hmm, don't do that. It was a beautiful thing, man, because I got recruited real hard. But I got there, my God bless him. Jumped about down the hole. They won the championship in 83. Mm-hmm. I was coming out in 84. He came down. He spent a lot of time down there in Gainesville fucking with me. You know what I mean? He used to be at my high school. You know, he was at my mom's dukes and, you know, I was, you know, but, you know, back then, they had bags, too, back then, too, now. If you was a motherfucker. Mm-hmm. You know, you got to be a, if you're a motherfucker, you can get a bag back then, too. So it's safe to say you got a little bag under the table before you got the Florida. Well, you can say that off records. You tired of that, right? Yeah. It was just a pain in your ass coming to Florida then. Well, god damn, now. Well, we ain't gonna... Hey, man, hey, hey, hey, hey. You know what I'm saying? NIL, dude. That man said a bag. He ain't say what was in the bag. He didn't say, I didn't pick the bag off. So we don't know what was in the bag. All right. So we don't even know what it is. No, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. You said he had a NIL, dude. He said he had a NIL, dude. I had a NIL, Florida, really, but, no, but really, though, I done like North Carolina State, but I had never been no motherfucking well. You know, I'm a country-ass bucket-ass nigga. I'm a country boy. You know, I got there in games for the Florida. My mom ain't letting me go too far away from that motherfucking. You know what I mean? And because, you know, she knew I was crazy, but besides that point, but I'd never been nowhere really like that. But besides to Orlando or some shit like that, or Jacksonville, I ain't, you know, I was playing ball somewhere all the way up and down the state. Florida, yeah. But I'd never been like, and then motherfuckers put me on a plane to go to them North Carolina State to Raleigh, North Carolina. And then I was like, oh my goodness, goddamn. I said, goddamn, when I got a goddamn plane, I looked at that. I was, even when I took the first step off that goddamn motherfucking, they flew me back in their plane, their team plane with the coaches and shit. So when I was, when I walked out that motherfucking, when I touched the first step off that goddamn plane, I said, oh shit, I know I ain't going this motherfucker, this motherfucker. I flew two hours and a half to come to this motherfucker. I knew I'd take my mom and them and we fucked up. So I know I was taking my mom and them, got them back, got them back at least eight to nine hours to get to this motherfucker. And I was like, oh shit, no, I know I ain't coming this motherfucker, ain't no motherfucker away. Cause I know, I mean, I know, you know, but before I got to the motherfucker on the visit, my mom already had told me like, motherfucker, let me tell you something. My mom was a motherfucker, something like that. As a country lady? Yeah, she was like a probation officer and shit. She was really. So, and my mom, she was like, she was like, nigga, let me tell you something. Don't put your name on the, no, don't sign shit. I get that. No, she said, don't sign shit. She said, just don't sign shit because it was really, but we had a bag at Florida that we already had. We had a motherfucking bag. So, and they had already helped us out, you know what I mean? So, and I was like, well, damn, I was like, I ain't, you know, I just verbally, I went up to North Carolina state and I verbally committed to the motherfuckers. I was like, yo, Coach Valvano, I verbally commit to North Carolina state and then the muffler and then he told his boy, you know, Dick Vitale. When he told Dick Vitale, Dick Vitale, that's his main man, you know, so when he told him, Dick Vitale came out and told it and said it and shit. And before I got there, I landed in Gainesville and shit on the half plane off of North Carolina state half plane in Gainesville. My mother, my mama, my mother, my mama was like, that boy, we ain't fucked up the money, Dick. We good. We ain't fucked up no money, Dick. I was like, nah, we good. We ain't fucked up the money. You know, I was like, nah, I just said, I mean, got there. I mean, it was a great visit now because I mean, I mean, I mean, he did, Valvano, he did, I mean, it was a great, I mean, I was one of the best visits I had. And I took all six of my motherfucking visits too. You knew that everywhere. Yeah, yeah, you get six visits, motherfucker. Where you go? Yeah, I forget the motherfuckers. I went all across America. I just went out and knew I wasn't going to the motherfuckers because I could just go for the weekend and go hang out and have a little guy there every time. This motherfucker, eat all this motherfuckers. I think I went in Nebraska or some shit like that. I was like, I know I ain't going no motherfucking Nebraska. I seen all the cornfields I did with my motherfuckers. I was looking at one of them motherfuckers. I said, man, he's fucked up. That's coming out here. No disrespect. I'm sorry. That's where I'm going. They know it too. That's where I'm going. They looking around like, how did I get here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't going to, I'm not going to do it. And then I went to West. I went to, I went to, I ain't have to go to Florida. I stayed on Florida campus. Shit, I went to Kentucky. I went to, shit, I went to a bunch of motherfuckers. I don't know. I forget, man. But I was like top rated. I was 15th in the nation. So I went to a bunch of motherfuckers places. And then football, I should have came and played. Like I was a football player too. And motherfuckers don't know that, you know? Yeah. The position play. Cornerback. And I received a point of return. That's a perfect position for you too. I know you want to pick it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, what do you see what you say? What do you say? In picks, yeah. Damn right. And that's what I was. I had 16 picks, my senior year. Damn, you snatching them bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. See, I got a wide receiver playing cornerback. You know, I was running for 240s. You know, yeah, yeah. I was blazing, yeah. So you ain't playing Florida. They wouldn't let you or you just didn't want to? No, they wanted me to. But I wasn't going to do that shit. I couldn't because, you know, I smoked too much dope and had a lot of shit, man. It was a lot of shit I was doing, man. Without the cops, man. It was a lot of shit I was doing. Oh, shit. But to be honest, man. I don't know how I made it. Most of it was done when I was old back then. It was all done. Lance Taylor and Michael Irving, the niggas was monsters. Oh, man. I'm telling you, the niggas was doing like I was doing too. Mad Mac. When did you get the name Mad Mac? Oh, man. Like I told you, like early, man, I was going to stay on the podcast early. When I was early, these niggas were like, man, these motherfuckers, you know. But hey, listen now. I want everybody to listen. I think you say that first. Listen. I am not motherfucking racist, OK? I know there ain't no brothers in these motherfuckers. No, he's going to, he's going to say crap with you. He's going to say crap with you. OK. I'm not motherfucking racist. That's part of the mood. Yeah, that part of the mood. I'm talking to all my families over here, all my peoples. And I appreciate everybody coming out. God damn it, I'm not racist. But I'm just going to do that alone. OK, but that's it. What the cracker do, man? Hey, man, welcome back to 85 SELF SHIR. Yeah, let me ask you that question again. Ask me that question again, because I really got something to say, though. OK, but before we even get it started, man, we ain't even going to do this shit long, because we already in here talking good shit and getting straight to it. We're going to bring numbers straight, hood, ghetto legends through the 85 SELF SHIR. I'm going to get raw there. That's exactly what we do, man. And we all grew up super sports fans. And we've seen this man one of the greatest to do it. Played in some of the coldest NBA games in history, a legend, a ghetto Hall of Famer. That's right. The craziest nigga they ever met put the jersey on. Come up, I want you to put me in the Hall of Fame because of what I've done. You already in the Hall of Fame. I know, I know, I know. All right, we went all the way in here. Love you, Max Will. Love you, Max Will. Yeah, Max, I love you, Max. I love it. I love it. The legacy is going to live forever. No doubt, all of my business. Thank you, my people. That's a blessing, man. Man, the ones who know know, man. And just to see all the great things you did on the court. And like we said, in the golden era of the NBA, it's an honor and a privilege for you to stop through the show and just kick it and talk some shit with us. Come on, man. That's what I love to do, man. That's what, you know, I'm an old corn ass nigga. You know, a real ass nigga. You know, a southern ass nigga. Exactly. That's what I do. You know, that's what we do. You know, we keep it real homage and, you know, with our peoples and, you know, I couldn't wait. All my peoples, they said, 85 South. Damn, B, they want to be on 85 South. What was that? The nigga was just like, oh my goodness, nigga, you got the gold. Nigga, all my nigga, this all my nigga. Exactly, yeah. I get it all my nigga. I love it. I love it. Got there, let's go, let's go, let's go. That's my crack. That's my crawl with all my niggas. Who knew that a retired NBA legend would have a crew deeper than rappers? Right. I had no idea what the fuck was going on in here. He got 31 young niggas over there. Right. Everybody from Florida? Everybody from Florida? Yeah, from everywhere. Everywhere. He from Florida, too. Everybody look like they clutching, too. They ain't on the bus, you know, but they ain't. Fuck around, you want to. So we got athletes over there. We got, got them also home, a fucking bunch of shit going on. They all got them motherfuckers, man. It's tech, people over there, they got templates and shit. They taking over, man. I love this black excellence we got going on today. Man, that's where we got to keep this shit going. I just played in that 100 Black Man, like, golf tournament yesterday. I was. The Doug Williams was over there. You know, he was like major, you know, in that part of the event. So, but it was great, man. It was a great bunch of motherfucking Black men out there motherfucking powerful. Money. I mean, that's right. Man, nothing like the Black Money. Doctors, lawyers, and just played a game and enjoyed a game. And it was, it was just, man, that shit was special, man. I was, that's what, that's what I, I came down here, but I knew I had to do y'all, but I was like glad this shit fell right in line. You know, so it was just perfect, man. Oh my goodness, this shit. I'm so happy to be here, man. Man, you can stop through here anytime. If you just have some shit, you feel like you need to say it. Nah, don't say that shit, nah. When else? Man, don't be saying that shit, nah. We're gonna, Cam, we got everybody out there with information. Yeah, we coming back. Well, I tell Cam, we gonna be through here, nah. Yeah, let me know. Nah, yeah, we need, we need, we need you to just get there and get a game to the people, like you just said. You said y'all know how you made it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they need to hear, bro. Well, like that, well, shit. I mean, if you want how I made it is, Yeah, shit. Nigga move slow. We all got a story. I was kidding. Yeah. What the fuck? That nigga got your mother. Get up, man. I'm not following you. I got damn ghosts, what the hell nigga? Where the fuck are the cams? Where the fuck is that nigga going? Hey nigga, come through here. On the way next time, nigga, you got to love you boy. That's my guy right there, Cam. Hell yeah. He broke the tablet. Oh, that motherfucker back here. It's still in the plastic. He bet it was hooked up because I used it tonight. Yeah, yeah, you got this. Don't send me no bill, is it like, is it? Now you get a 12 month break. I can make money doing work. No, don't send me nothing to do no fraud and shit. You all really talking about bank accounts and shit. That's a chip. That's a chip. Now you know you can get paid off the bank accounts. What do you mean bank accounts? Oh, you doing this, somebody else? Oh, shit. This nigga scared. They give him out. Is it on? So if I take it out of the box right now, I can use it. Get on the line and everything, with no bill, no Wi-Fi or nothing, just. I knew this shit was too good to be true. I know this shit was way too good to be true. Nah, he back there. I hope any way you go, you have Wi-Fi. Right, I'm over it. Yeah, I'm saying this shit. When you get Wi-Fi, you straight. You mean you ain't Wi-Fi with anything. Ain't shit gonna work without Wi-Fi? Yeah, you gotta have Wi-Fi and you earn points. And then the same. Yeah, it's safe. All right, Javier, come put this. Man, y'all got to talk to my nigga about all this shit right there. He said, okay. I'm about to tell Javier to open it and turn the Wi-Fi on. Then he can bring it back when the Wi-Fi jump in. Yeah, we're gonna make sure all this shit will fly right. And it's all legal too, man. Yeah, it's legal. We pay for the Wi-Fi. Now, dim his tablets. My Wi-Fi. Say that again, that's his tablet. Right, my Wi-Fi. Now, there's nothing about where he got the tablet, bro. What you want? What's that? But it's my Wi-Fi. You said you run a 4-2-40? You ran a 4-2-40? Yeah, yeah, back in the day. Ain't it something that Florida... I said my fucker didn't teach us how to run back then, though. But Florida beat the fastest niggas down. Yeah, we weren't able to run. The fastest niggas from Florida? We wasn't talking how to run back then. This motherfucker go to trainers, and this motherfucker got them go to this goddamn simulators and shit, learn how to run and shit. Man, we was just running like... I was running wild, you know? But I was running a 4-2-40, you know? 4-3. You think all that extra training and shit would be hindering motherfuckers? It's real country, ain't it, man? Man, I know what this nigga would do. If I fuck a guy. This nigga was fast. Yeah. These niggas never run it with shoes. Man, them niggas... What you back then? Well... The nigga had shoes, bro. Don't do the thing like that. No, I'm saying... That's when I ran my fastest time. I'm trying to change it, man. You got to get a bad foot, nigga. You got to get on your motherfucking bad foot to run the fastest time you want to run. I mean, I'm talking about... I don't give a damn if you don't gravel if you don't run around. Goddamn. I'll just fuck with you, nigga. I'll just fuck with your niggas. I don't want to say what's your motherfucking bad foot. I don't want to say what's your motherfucking bad foot. I don't want to say something like that. But, bro, you got to get on the street. I'd rather get out my goddamn shoes, get on the street, man. You know, I run bad foot on the street. Yeah. On the street? Yeah, I got that motherfucking country boy. I'm from Gainesville, Florida, nigga. I don't run on the road no more. They don't run on the road no more. Man, we just want to stop, sign, and stop, sign, nigga. All they train to make motherfucking soft because these motherfuckers don't even play outside no more. Man, that's why the motherfucking games so fucked up. Man, that's why the fucking games so fucked up. Because niggas don't play outside no more. I don't play against older motherfuckers. Like, we used to play against grown-ass men when we was kids and shit. Like, I used to play against motherfucking niggas with 30 and shit. Like, I was like 15 and shit. Yeah, nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna drop that. They be like, hey, you better get this motherfuckers. I'm getting buckets, bitch. I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna drag your whole ass nigga. I'm gonna run your whole ass a devil. I'm gonna run that whole ass nigga to death. And push straight up for that whole ass. Man, I'm gonna put that whole ass man up. That man can't play with two, three games. I'm gonna get big, man. You can't lose back in the day, goddammit. You lose back in the day, nigga. Take about five, six games when you get back out that motherfucker. Nigga, let's you a bad motherfucker that nigga be like, let's you a bad motherfucker like I was. And here he is, niggas, don't forget that. Like, you a bad motherfucker like I was. The nigga pick you up the next game. Oh, man, Max, you know, oh, yeah, bring Max on back in him. Yeah, so unless you wasn't me, nigga, y'all wasn't, ain't that motherfucker in this motherfucking building was doing that. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Hey, come on, nigga. None of you niggas been in here. No, no, none of those niggas got picked up on the park. Bro, when the goddammit, when the goddammit, when they lost, and it's a, the coast pack, and they got picked right back up. Look at this, who said that? Look at my nigga stand up, my nigga. Stand up, my nigga. Look at that nigga, he said he did. Ain't nobody else said that for him. How the hell that happen? Who he playing with? Cam, you? My nigga Cam, my nigga right there, he's playing against you. That's my nigga, I love him now. What? I ain't know all that was going on, that shit. I ain't know all that shit was going on. That's a real shit. I ain't know my nigga was killin' like that Cam, or he's mugs it. Oh, he be dribblin' all day. He's mugs it both? Where you from? I'm South, that's my nigga, I love him. That's my nephew right there. I thought he's one of them New York dribblin' motherfuckers. That's my nigga right there. That's you? Oh lord, oh lord. Motherfuckin' can't shoot for shit, but dribblin' his ass off. No, not that one. Shoot it. No, no, no, no, no. Stop, man, no, that's that New York shit. All that hip hop, New York. That's no, do not. Do not bring that shit in the game. That's fine. Lots of niggas don't make it. Cause all the hey, hey, hey, hey. Now stop all that shit. You just don't understand, man. You ain't never seen me play niggas. Stop, man. If I won't see you, God damn, how you gonna snatch something out of a fuckin' body, Mari? I tell you what, nigga, you tell yourself. I'm like, God damn, I'm lookin' at him. Look at him. Stand up, Mari. Look at him. He's what, look at him. He's snatchin' niggas. Look at him, he's snatchin' all about it. Look at him, he's snatchin' somebody niggas. Come here. I'm right here. Right there. What, what? Oh, yeah, that's nothing. Oh, no, no, nigga, that's nothing. That's nothing. I'm just gonna test it. That's nothing. Mom, just be saying, I have a lot of my niggas. But I love all my people over here. I think all my people's coming out. Hell, yeah. You kicked a lot of ass in the NBA. Oh, yeah, oh man. I had a lot of help, too, though. I mean, I gotta give the credit to a lot of help, too. First of all. But I was, you know, yeah, them niggas. Yeah, I was. I would do something. I would do something. Well, we didn't start out like that, though. When I first got there in, like, um, and, uh, in, uh, 91, uh, 90, 91, uh, when I first, well, 89, 90. So we didn't, we wasn't first. We was like, we was on the fact 500 team and shit. Mm-hmm. A lot of the ones I was there, though. Mm-hmm. Was it a play out that gave you a hard time? You like, nah, I didn't like that. I can't do shit. There was so many motherfuckers, so tough. Back when I played, man. I mean, night in, night out. See, you can have nights off in this motherfucker right now in the league. But back when I played, man, I can just go down. I'm trying to, I, I, if I forget some motherfuckers, y'all could tell me. Who your most underrated motherfuckers who you feel don't get enough credit that you actually had to go out there and play and know that they was like that, like you said? My homeboy Mitch Richmond. Oh, yeah. Mitch was a dog. He's underrated like a motherfucker. That motherfucker was a killer, man. Mitch Richmond. Yeah, yeah. We played against each other in high school and all that stuff. I mean, he was a, he, he know how to use that big body and Mitch was a killer. But see back then, see, Mitch had the mid-range. See, these guys don't, these motherfuckers don't play with the mid-range no more. They, they, they, they don't fight. Either the motherfuckers gonna shoot the three or they gonna drive all the way to the goddamn basket. Well, fuck it. Don't forget about that in-between game. That's where the game is made at. That's how you get going. That's how you play that. You've played a game right through there. That's how the game was invented. Right. You know, bam, pump, fake a motherfucker. You jump, shoot a motherfucker. Like Steph Curry, that motherfucker know how to play the game. Yeah. You got, who your top five new school? Huh? Who your top five new school of the day? The day? That you watch them all the time, like. Whoa. Curry, Brian, the white boy, the center. Which one? Joke it. Right there, in Denver. Um, uh, Joc. Yeah. I said to Brian, didn't I? Yeah, you say it, bro. I, I like, I like, I gotta get my boy somewhere. I gotta get him. I ain't like what he did when he came right to the press conference and shit. With his hat and shit. Jimmy Butler. Oh, Jimmy Butler. I'm gonna get that nigga. That's my nigga too. I like Jimmy Butler. That nigga a dog, you know. Yeah. When they're all, when they're all boys' dads, you know. He gonna show up. Yeah. You know, so he, I just like him cause he gonna, he gonna, he gonna carry them niggas. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Man, he gonna, he gonna, he gonna be, he gonna be who he gonna be. Yeah. Who you, who you couldn't stand in your time when the NBA like, man, fuck this shit. We gotta play these niggas? Damn. Hmm. Shit, well, I couldn't stand. God, shit, shit. Well, I couldn't, oh, I couldn't stand them. Well, shit, I ain't want to see you got there. I ain't want to see Mike. This shit, I ain't want to see Mike. Right, right. Did anybody want to see Mike back then? I ain't want to see you got there. Mike, shit. I'm glad. I don't see that motherfucker two times a year. See, I was on the West. I wasn't playing that motherfucker six times a year. I was playing on everybody else six times a year in the West. You know? And shit, probably Mike. Mike, huh? Talking shit. Oh, nah, it's a goddamn, it was a problem, nigga, when you got there when you play against that motherfucker, man. Yeah. I'm just, I mean, I mean, it's just it's a goddamn problem. Yeah. I mean, ain't no goddamn, when you got there when you walk in that goddamn arena, nigga. Well, before you walk in the arena you better have your mind set and write the night before. You know, you better get your motherfucker mind right. God damn it, if your mind ain't right, the night before, nigga, cause you know black cat, black Jesus, whatever we used to call that motherfucker, he coming. Yeah. He coming. I'm not fucking coming. I ain't no... You better get your rest. Damn, damn. Yeah. That's what I'm telling you. Yeah. And that's really like one of the only motherfuckers, you know, and I knew it. Yeah. And, but, you know, and that's really like mind your rest against like other motherfuckers. I'll talk about them later, but this motherfucker I'm talking about right now. Shit, you got to, I used to have to goddamn lay down and goddamn put my feet above my motherfucker chest and get all the circulation coming back at him. I gotta get ready for this motherfucker. I know this motherfucker. Damn, goddamn. Damn, goddamn time. And, you know, he don't know how to take his feet off your throat, you know. He's gonna die, man. He gonna put his feet on your throat and he gonna keep it on you if you let him. So what we used to say about, I just, I just, I love that and that's what I wanted. Do you see anybody in the league right now that would bring that? Quick as hell. Yeah, man. Fuck those. So nobody bring that energy like that? Damn. They're just relentless. So you say y'all would have mad handle LeBron back in the day, y'all mad. No, no, no, this is what I said. I never did say that about LeBron. I said LeBron is one of the motherfuckers that played in the NBA when we played in the NBA. That motherfucker's six, eight. Yeah, he can play in the NBA. Man, that motherfucker, you see when that motherfucker down hill, I don't give a damn who he black. Man, that motherfucker got that. I mean, what the fuck are we talking about? Come on, motherfucker. You don't hear something, son of a bitch. Come on, man. Come on, motherfucker. Now if you said another motherfucker like Kyrie or something, he got two motherfuckers out there and he got a lot of shit. Knock that motherfucker in the stands. No Kyrie, you know. Hey, this. Daddy. I'm sorry, Dedrick. Dedrick, Dedrick to daddy. Dedrick to daddy. That's Kyrie's daddy. I apologize. I haven't just said it. But you know how I play Dedrick. But it's true. Yeah, I mean... I'm just gonna have him choose, y'all. I'm just saying. That's my people. I love them. I'm just saying. But motherfuckers be dancing for that ball and you couldn't do that back in the day. Right. I'll push your little ass right on in the stands where you want to go, too. Now I'll push him. I got you right on in the motherfuckers dance, dude. I'm gonna go in there with you, too. I just see you on a few different shows. What you got to feel, bro? You got to feel it, motherfucker. Ain't nobody brought up. He was a cold-ass shooter, too. Oh, yeah. How you developed that shot? Man, see. That's another thing, too. Like... Back in the day, like, when I came up, man, I said, I'm a 65, baby. I'm 58 years old. And back in the day, we ain't had nobody to... We ain't had no motherfucking gun. You know, like, you know... I grew up by a motherfucking graveyard. Our basketball court was wrapped by the graveyard. I'm scared as hell as the graveyard. I'm scared to die. I'm scared. I don't want everything I love. I don't give a damn. I don't want everybody to know that. I know I got a shot. I'm 58 years old, and I say I got about... at least about... I'm gonna make a hundred. There you go. I'm gonna make a hundred. But I'm just saying, I'm scared to die. So... I'm just saying, man, what you just... You talked about the shots, man. The shots. The shots, man. I know I made a lot of goddamn shots, but, man, I used to work out by a graveyard, man. And when I worked out in a graveyard, man, and I knew I couldn't miss a lot of shots because I didn't want the ball to go over there by the graveyard. Right. So I had to concentrate like I'm in the game. And I used to, you know, visualize myself like... I mean, I just like... shoot, bam. I couldn't shoot a lot, you know, because, you know, when the lights come on, my mom would tell me I better have my ass back at the house. And then I used to get money. You know, I just... I didn't want to talk about that. But I had to be back at the house. So I learned how to shoot doing that, you know, because I ain't had nobody to rebound for me. I ain't had nobody to do nothing for me. So I learned all that, but heart came from... where I came from, where I lived at the Sugar Hill. It's on the southeast side of Gainesville, Florida. You know, my hood, all my niggas. And that's where I learned this heart and that grit. And... don't never back down from whoever I want to fuck, whoever you playing against. Goddamn motherfucker. Goddamn, you gotta kill me. You know, when I'm playing a game, motherfucker, you gotta kill me. Because this ain't that bitch. I know you can't kill me. Bitch, I'm... I'm gonna do what you do to me. I'm gonna do more than what you do to me. I know my mind said it's so motherfucking crazy. My mind said, crazy than a motherfucker. I know it is. And I know me. And I know I ain't no nigga who won't lose this money. You know, because nigga, I ain't care about losing no goddamn money in the goddamn NBA. You gotta lose a bunch of money with your bitch ass. You know what I mean, nigga? I lose a bunch of money with your motherfucking bitch ass, nigga. I don't give a fuck, nigga. We can lose all our whole fucking year check. I don't give a fuck, nigga. We can goddamn do this shit from... I don't give a fuck. But, you know, I was that kind of nigga. And so... But I ain't sayin' I was a baddest nigga. But that's where I was. But my mind said, and a lot of niggas, they knew that. Yo, this nigga is crazy. You know, so what? And then, but learn to shoot big, making big shots. Like, I ain't care about taking the last shot. And that's why I made a lot of last shots. And won a lot of games and shit. Runnin' out of bounds, shootin' bitch tongue round. You know, but... And I ain't care because, you know, the next day in the paper, the motherfuckers gonna come to you and say, you know, I didn't do money back. The motherfuckers gonna be like, talking about something. And it's motherfuckers off the game. Yeah, I did, motherfuckers. Yeah, I raised my hand. I'm gonna say, I took that goddamn shot. I did. I lost that goddamn guy. But that's what they gonna put it on. Because it wasn't really me. And the fans, I mean, real motherfuckers, fans know it ain't me, but I'm gonna take that motherfucker. So I wasn't scared to take that motherfucker. That's why I made a lot of game-winning shots in the NBA. A lot of the motherfuckers, no doubt. Shit, that pressure wouldn't know you, man. Nah, man, I don't give a fuck, though. Really, it's still the day. That's why I keep my tool on me and all that shit. All that shit. Did you have any other athletes in your family that came out, like, the ball, after ball and the football, like you said, you played football, too, ever? Yeah, my... I had my oldest son. He was a... He was a Hooper. He was a football player, Vernon Jr. Man, he's out in Houston. He's working in... Shit, man. Youngest son, Brandon. He went up to a school. A motherfucking white man tried to kill him. What? Yeah, yeah, so... But then he's working. He's living in Jacksonville right now. But then... But now I got my oldest son and my second marriage. And ex-wife, my people. Tristan Maxwell. He's at Hampton University. He's the man over there. He's holding his hand, got damn... That motherfucker got a chance to make it. He just got to go, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got a chance to make this motherfucker go. This motherfucker, pretty red-ass, and they can go. Yeah, he can go. He can go, and then I got my baby boy at Northman High School. Which really, his name is Bernal Leon Maxwell III. But the motherfucker, he'd be like, you know, I'm talking about your ass. We call him Trey. He don't want to be, he said, he want to be Trey, so... Trey Trey, I love you, boy. Let's go Northman. He had Northman with number 18 team in the nation. His teammate is Isaiah Evans. Going to Duke. Yeah, yeah, going to Duke, so... Also, you got it all through the family, man. Oh, man. Were you the first? You were the first one to make it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody never. Good shit. That's crazy, man. What would you say was your best game? Like the one that just stand out the most to you? Well, I had a damn um... I think when I had 51... Yeah. Back then, 51... Against what team? Cleaves and Cavaliers. Good job. Did you have a team that you knew or that just happened? No, not really. No. That shit, that ain't bad shit. That shit tough, man. Can't get a bottle of water out here. That shit like, that ain't bad shit, man. That shit tough, man. That shit tough as hell. Yeah. Appreciate it, brother. Anybody else want one? Hell, yeah. Still over here. He's drinking wine. Don't pour it out. He pulled the wine out, talking about hearing freaky moans. Don't say that shit to us. I was talking to myself, man. Say it in your mind. Don't do it. Just think. Okay, okay. And I saw the Michael Jordan documentary. He said they used to smoke and drink during halftime. Is that true? Back in the day, looking at my shit going on. Let's see. Let's get to that part. Let's get to that part, right, Del. Let's get to that part. Now, back, see, but you gotta understand, Mike is older than me now. He's a little bit older than me. He's like, well, Mike got me by I don't know, I think about three, four years or something like that. So, he about three, four years older than me. My mother was doing a lot of shit. Starting in the locker room. For the photo game? For the game, after the game, during the game, my mother was doing a lot of shit. My mother said, I mean, in the locker room, there was a lot of shit going on back then. When I came over, man, there was a lot of shit. When I came in the league back in 1989, there was a lot of shit going on. They said the bull mascot used to sell cocaine. See what I'm saying? You guys have been playing with a nigga and you know he had. You're at the free throw line, like, bro, you need to cool the fuck out, bro. We're on national TV, you had some motherfuckers. No, I just, no, I would never blast a nigga like that. What's going on, man? Y'all good? What are we doing out of this? What are we doing out of this? What the fuck? What the fuck? That's crap. That's bullshit. I never would do that. You need to keep getting dressed and not dressed. Y'all ready for me? All right, fuck it. Calling this motherfucker very, very... Win the game, bird. Who's winning the game, bird? I could never talk about that. I would never say nobody. Did we win the game? What talk about? Did we win? Did everybody have a good time? That's all I care about. Yeah, I do. Man, I believe it. You make too much money not to do the same shit in the locker room you do at home. Fuck that shit. It'll make a lot of money. I'm here to play now. Don't worry about what's in my bag. I'm here to play. You pass through all the niggas. You smell like Hennessy. Yeah. Fuck off my neck. You can sweat now. You're sweating though your head. I can see it. I can see it. When you said Michael Jordan was a motherfucker, did you ever have to play against Dennis Robbins? Yeah, that's my god, man. God damn, I got a real story about that motherfucker. I'm a god, Dennis. Shout out to Dennis, man. Everybody get up for Dennis. Hey, this is the only motherfucker that can go to my career and talk to Kim Jong-un. Kim Jong-un. He's the only one over there that can talk to a motherfucker. Lamb and milk pudding this shit. Yeah, I used to live with that motherfucker, man. That's why I got some story I'm about to tell you. Me and him had the same agent. I used to live with that motherfucker out there. We had a duplex out there. Our agent had a sudden healer at the bottom part. I lived in the top part. This motherfucker was, yeah, that motherfucker. That motherfucker was everything he did. Like, he was. Just advertised. I love you, Dennis. You know that motherfucker. That's my nigga. I love that motherfucker though. You know that motherfucker? That's my nigga. Fuck Dennis. I love him, nigga. I'm telling you, I got the damn story. Motherfucker shit. You said you had the same agent. Yeah, it was out there on Newport Beach, man. We was right there on the beach, man. So when you walk out on the back, you got there on one feet, you got there on Newport Beach, man. That motherfucker was so goddamn crazy, man. That shit was weird, but he was a great dude, man. That's what's up. One thing about him, man, he going to compete and he going to work out and he just different. He going to put on... He going to marry this motherfucker himself. He did. Like, he did. He married this motherfucker himself. You all remember that shit in New York? When he married this motherfucker himself? That motherfucker married this motherfucker and he put on the dress all of them. He gave himself some pussy. That motherfucker gave himself some pussy. He did. He gave himself some pussy. He cheated on himself. He didn't win. He said he was going to marry this motherfucker. So you all remember that shit? I remember. I'm going to put you in the dress. I didn't know that nigga married this. He married himself. Niggas, we thought this motherfucker was going to marry this motherfucker. He might be on the sum. He married himself, divorced himself so he can get half of his own shit. You might... You might... It might have been a business move. I don't want to have my own shit. I don't make no sense. What are we doing? Why I got to go through and pay the lawyers a shit? You got to pay the lawyers a shit. Why I got to do all that dub shit? I don't know myself. You about to just get a whole budget tank break. That's right, yeah. That's some weirdo ass shit. But nah, this is... That's my guy. That shit works. Who hit you? I hit me. I was talking shit. My wife said I came home and I got mad with me. Who your wife? Niggas said it. Niggas please, I slapped myself. Yeah, my wife don't like people coming to the house. Right. It's just a way to give all your bullshit off. Oh, shit. Oh. Y'all keep it down, my wife's asleep. What you just said? Niggas ain't got no wife. Yeah, nah, he married himself. Y'all see that, nigga? Y'all said... Y'all know one thing about that motherfucker now and that's one thing I saw him. He had a... What I said, a top. Madonna. Yeah, Madonna. He was popping up with him. Yeah. A whole bunch of high class white women he had. Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker. Was he one of the motherfuckers that could party and then play the next game and be fat? Yeah, he was like me. Yeah, you did too. I ain't like the regular motherfuckers. I got them bitches, I'll go to sleep if you want to. Because I'm in these streets. You don't sleep, dude. I'm gonna hang out the 4-5 in the morning. If I go to sleep at 11 o'clock, nigga, like these niggas be doing nowadays, nigga, they gotta get all that rest, nigga, y'all gonna kill me. Y'all ain't get nobody in the game the next day. Nigga, let me be mean, nigga. I gotta get... I gotta got them, hang out the 3-4 in the morning and be doing... be doing... I'm drinking, nigga. I'm being like, we doing right now, nigga. We... We passing blunts, nigga. We smoking, nigga. We drinking, man. We part of it. That's what I was doing. I gotta do this before the game. If I do anything else, nigga, you're gonna get a motherfucker that's gonna score 2 points. You're gonna pour the all-nighter and then have to go play the nigga one and then get no sleep. Done it in the finals when we played against the Knicks. What was ballin' on there? Ah, man, I'm gonna go out there, I can't do nothing but do it. I gotta... It's all about... It don't matter about the rest of me because, man, you gotta understand, motherfucker, make us go in the gym at 11 o'clock in the morning. Shit, I got in probably by 9 o'clock in the morning. You know, man, I'm gonna shit all and shit everybody. I got a bunch of motherfuckers staying in my hotel where I stay with a lot of people from my hometown. You know, a lot of people from all my homeboys and people from Houston, all my boys from Houston. So I got about eight, nine rooms in the motherfucking hotel and some shit like that. And so we partin' like a motherfucker. About nine, eight, 30. Got them bus leads. I told them I got them wife. Hey, but got them, wake me up. I got them right before they get ready to go because I got a goddamn... I got a goddamn get on that bus at 11 o'clock. I went on that bus, I told Ruthie T when we got that goddamn to the garden, I told Ruthie T, I was like, I got a damn Ruthie now. Shit, I'm just gonna listen to that. Yes. I gotta say, my motherfuckin' dog is over this motherfucker right here. I was just gonna sit my ass over here and listen to what y'all are sayin' today. I don't even wanna take not one motherfuckin' jump shot. I'm gonna sit my ass over here and listen to that. And I was over that motherfucker. I was listening to Ruthie T and saying, motherfucker, use me like a goddamn canteen. No, motherfucker, just let me get... I'm gonna be ready, motherfucker, tonight, though. I'll be ready tonight. Right. And that was gang three. When I was in New York, and that's a game that they say you're supposed to steal. The first game, when we lost game two in Houston. And then... So... And when we lost game two in Houston, so they thought we was gonna... we was done. So the motherfuckers in New York, they dancin' all in the streets, like they had motherfuckin' New Orleans with umbrellas and all kind of shit. So they dancin' all out in the streets. You know, so we pullin' up under the goddamn... You know, that goddamn... That motherfucker's like a dungeon. I don't know what the fuck they take you down to. We gotta get on the goddamn elevator, take about motherfuckin' 40 minutes and get up that motherfucker to the goddamn main floor. That shit's crazy. I don't know what the motherfucker doin' in the goddamn. But so... We get up in that motherfucker, so we know it's us against them. But we know it's the first. You know, the game three is a game, motherfucker. You gotta go get that game. You gotta go get that game, man. Man. And then we just wanted to stay close with the motherfuckers. And that's what we did. We stayed close to the motherfuckers. Unfortunately, you know, it was a blessing, goddamn. Sam Cassell hit a big motherfucker. Young, goddamn rookie. Hey, Sam, hey, baby boy, you know we love you, baby. 85 South, what we out here shouting you out, we out here shouting you out, my nigga? Sam Cassell, hey, nigga, come down here, my nigga. You heard my nigga say, tell it, man. Tell it, my nigga. Stop back and all. Stop back and scaring, nigga. Come down here. Come down here. I'm telling you, nigga. We win, man. Yeah, nigga, yeah. We win. Yes, we won, motherfucker. Hey, Sam, when you come in town with the 76ers, take time out. Set it up. Come down here, fucking my niggas, man, 85 South, okay. But Sam Cassell, besides that, okay, I'm gonna get back to the phone. Yeah, I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna tell that something, bitch, to come. That's my nigga. And fuck you, Sam. Yeah. But besides that, that motherfucker hit a big motherfucker shot. Damn. But if he wouldn't have hit it, because I was the next motherfucking man in line, I was sitting right over there by my nigga, right there by my motherfucker, and that motherfucker got them suit over there. That motherfucker nice. They're like, got some angel shit going on over there. Palm angel shit. I was sitting right over there by him. If he wouldn't have got that made, if he wouldn't have made that motherfucker, I would wild him right there because, you know, I'm gonna shot and make him motherfucker. Everybody here know that. Okay, okay, everybody here. But I'm gonna shot and make him motherfucker. So Sam pulled up, raised up, made it, bam. And we won it. So after that, shit, boy, I was like, oh, shit. Y'all know I was a dead drunk in New York City after that. I was dead drunk. The whole way through. We was like that motherfucker for a whole week, too. I was dead drunk. I met so many motherfucking goddamn actresses. And I was like, goddammit, this motherfucker, this motherfucker, I mean this motherfucker here. Look at this motherfucking bitch right here. Look at this motherfucker here. This shit is crazy. You ain't fucking don't celebrity back then. You ain't date no celebrity or nothing like that. Oh, man, I was married. So I ain't gonna even kid myself up like that. You know what I do say, I'm kind of suspicious though. He said he saw. I saw him. I saw him. I saw a lot of him. He's like, nigga, did you hit me? I know what I mean. I know what I mean. You know one thing I always found, like, entertaining about you when you play ball, even if some niggas got the argument on the court and you wasn't in the argument, you would go get it in that shit. I'm gonna stay in some shit. That's what my mama did. That's what my mama did. That's what my mama did. I'm gonna get some shit with that. She's like, my brother's a fucking ass nigga. Why you gonna lose money in the argument? Ain't nobody will never come lose no money in your goddamn argument. That shit ain't working. Nah, son. I'm staying in some people's shit. You want to be like you. You do this motherfucker on the court. You want to go out there and fight with everybody, fight against everybody. Y'all should be fighting back then. Oh, man. You can slap shit out of the motherfucker back there. Just get 250 off fire. They ain't done changed, man. Oh, these niggas are back up from each other. They ain't even close to each other. Nah, these niggas in the NBA now, these niggas been kissing each other. Yeah. They put their face against each other. They put my face against those niggas face. They trying to get that whole time, man. Get your chin off my chin. You can't come in there. You coming out of here, you ain't. I'm like, here you ain't. You coming through here, right down here. I'm going to hit you up. I'm going to break your shit up. But not come through that now. These niggas in the NBA, they be kissing. Yeah, they be talking shit, yeah. They be talking faces and shit, and chances and shit. What the fuck are these niggas doing? They niggas cussing. I love all you motherfuckers. They going to be chance to chance with another thing. You ain't never getting the shit on the motherfucker. They over there looking at porn. I tell you shit. Yo, what's up? Bring it in there. Oh, yeah, it's up. It's up. Hold on. Let me close it out. Let me clear the history. See, it ain't been no good fights lately in the NBA. Nah, they motherfuckers scared to fight. Nah, they motherfuckers don't want to get all that money they want to get. I don't blame it on them. What's the fine now? You said $250 back then? Nah, shit. Well, I got shit. They took that money from my hand. They fucked me up. How much you think it totaled that you got it fast? Oh, shit. I know shit. Oh, my goodness. I want my goddamn money back, too. I mean, goddamn. Fuck the shit. Put it somewhere. They didn't need it. Well, I'm waiting on a goddamn pension though. But I got them. No motherfuckers hit me probably by damn. I really am. Y'all making me feel, think about this bullshit. Okay, don't think about that shit. No, I'm gonna think about it. I'm gonna think about it. I'm gonna tell you motherfuckers, too. Goddamn, I think it's probably about... Oh, shit. Probably about that. I lost what I got when I was playing the slap shit out of that white boy. Damn. You definitely did that. I'm glad you brought it up so I didn't have to. That was a classic moment. History. That was very important for black people. See? Like it didn't even, like, at that point... No, because he had this... It was disrespectful of him. Whatever you... But that's what I'm saying. We don't even know what he said. You was right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever he said, you was right. I lost my goddamn money in the town. What'd he say? He was talking about my stillborn daughter. My motherfucking goddamn security guard. The motherfucking... Whatever the motherfuckers be, the ushers, whatever the motherfucking niggas be, and white folks be, you know, in them goddamn jackets. I'm telling this motherfucking niggas. And it was a nigga, too. Telling the niggas, I said, hey, man, go ahead and tell that motherfucking man to stop talking about what he's talking about. But everybody had knew. I had my daughter just... I just bare my, you know, my stillborn daughter. But, I mean... I didn't know that that shit would be that deep like that. That's when I learned that that shit is deep. These crackers will say anything to you. And so, white boys kept saying, you know, fuck that, you know, and my, you know, my baby daughter's name was Amber, you know, and fuck this, and, you know, and fuck you and you ain't shit, you know, and, you know, I'm up there in Portland, Oregon, you know, from Portland, Oregon. It's really, it's a really cool place because the motherfuckers stay getting high and they got a lot of, like, but back in the day, they were motherfuckers' love. They was racist, too, up through there, too, you know. The motherfuckers, the hillbilly motherfuckers with them, you know, so they was racist, too, up through there. So, white boys, I guess he had found that. And, you know, they learned a lot about motherfucking professional athletes before you come through their city. And the white boy, I guess he had found that. Like, you know, goddamn, I'm gonna harass this nigga tonight. And he paid his money to do that. So, that's what the motherfucking goddamn nigga told me. He told me the nigga right here was standing in the security guy. I was like, man, when I was sitting right there by the niggas, I was telling niggas, man, I was telling niggas, man, get your motherfucking hands off me, nigga, on my team. Like, you here with this motherfucker saying, I said, I said, I'll tell you what. I told him, I said, man, okay, you ain't gonna handle it. So, and the white boy said something again. I said, I swear, I said, fuck it. So, I got up. And I knocked the goddamn security guard motherfucking ass somewhere over there. And I just politely, I ain't even run up the motherfucking stand. I walked up the motherfucking. I just took my damn time. Because I knew when I got to this motherfucker, I knew I was gonna slap the motherfucker the shit out of this crowd. Yeah, man, I slapped the goddamn pain out of that crowd. I said, I wanted to hit one close fist, though. I just slapped the shit out of them. You know, and then... Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, they ended up kicking me out and made a long story short. Then my folks took... That was 300,000 for 10 games. They suspended for 10 games. That was 300,000. I went and seen David Stern. He ain't want to hear nothing. And I was telling him, he just got to understand what he done. But he was just like, we looking at the camera, we looking at what's happening. I was like, but you ain't hearing what we're saying. And you talked to security. You said security told. He ain't saying that. He's fucking crazy. But that's like in the day. You got his ass thrown out the way. I knocked his ass way over there, but I got them pain over there. I knocked the shit out of his ass. His little ass, his little ass. I probably lost about 550. But you got the NBA hands, so I know that slap. Damn motherfucker, face shift, boy. Oh, yeah, I slapped the shit out of them. I slapped them good. No. I need to do. I need to touch his motherfucker's ass. Sometimes you got people need to know his consequences. No, not the shit. You can't just say anything. Did you slap, get some money? Yeah, he the one got the money. Oh, that's crap. That's crazy. I go slap his ass again today for you. We gonna look him up. We gonna be performing. We gonna be performing out there. I'm coming out there. I'm coming out there. Let me know when you're coming. Cam, get the information. We're going out there to say money back. We're going out there to start some shit. No, we're not. Hey, this is bad motherfucker. I was just about to tell you, too. See, I was saying, man, stop playing with Moolah. Now I gotta get with him and see how he makes money. Moolah Wilders. I'm telling you, man. Listen, man. Moolah Wilders, man. I'm fucking with it. That's what's up. That's all that matters to me. You can get that. That's who I'm partnering with right there. I heard y'all had a partnership. That's my people. I'm giving all you motherfuckers. Then I get all you motherfuckers. Then I get everybody something, Cam. And somehow I'm getting everybody. Y'all have some balls, yeah. That's what's up, man. Now when everybody got that... Most of you are going to get caught jacking up on the tip. Huh? Huh? What did you say? Shit. I'm on YouTube. Yeah, man. Come on. Yeah. But you made more money than you got fine, though. I know you had fun, man. I made 13 million in 13 years. Damn. That's good. Oh, yeah. That's some bullshit. Compared to now? Compared to now? Nah, nah, nah. Compared to what I did, man. That's some bullshit, my nigga. Nah, that's some bullshit, my nigga. You got the fuck out of here, my nigga. What the fuck are you talking about? What the fuck is wrong with me? And you just see niggas way worse than you in the modern era. Niggas that didn't even play that... Them niggas... Look at this motherfucker. They never played that motherfucker like that. I mean, I was like, man, this shit is crazy. But it's all about, man. Oh, my goodness, man. Motherfucker, goddamn, boy, I really, really won't do something about it. I'm just kidding. Everybody. Everybody does that to me like that. Because they know you will. Nah. How do you like mula? I fuck with it. I'm gonna text myself. Can you do it? Yeah, this shit hard. Black Ong. Tech company. I didn't line up Georgia. I didn't line up. They gotta come back on Black Market. Yeah, let's check out this special man. Yeah, we gotta do it. Support the Black business. Nah, no doubt, no doubt. For real, yeah, yeah. He had to fly out today somewhere, I think. Yeah, to New York. So, yeah, that's why it wouldn't even be... I love it. He ain't even had to set the time and shit. It's shit hard. It's shit on point. So I just put him like a club on that motherfucker's stuff. I'mma leave this one at the crib. There you go. So what got you into the tech world? Well, I just... My LLC, my... My... My Brenner Maxwell Initiative, LLC. That's what got me into it. You know, it's mental health and that's what this is gonna be a part of. And you're gonna be able to, like, we're gonna make it where you can, like, just hit a button that you have and you need to talk to somebody. Mmm. Or you need to just whatever you... Whatever you need to do. Yeah, just whatever about mental health. I mean, if you feel like you wanna do something, I mean, so that's what we're gonna... We partner up with that and that's what that's gonna be about. Great shit. Check it out, man. This is really dope. It's really great. It's a lot more than that, though. It's a lot of other shit on there that you got done. As long as you got the internet, you can do anything on that damn thing. Yeah, you can do anything on that. Gainesville is the only place they ate in Florida? Gainesville is the only place I stayed in Florida. But, yeah, I ain't never played. I, well, I take it back. I stayed down there and, uh... What the hell is this shit about? Key West, when I was, um... when I was coming out of Gainesville, trying to get ready for the NBA drive. Okay. You ever heard of Fort Pierce, Florida? Fort Pierce, yeah, I know Fort Pierce. I say I'm south. I say, okay, damn, huh, boy? You're a homie. I know you got that Florida name. You had the damn tattoos and shit. That's what we do. The niggas got Florida names. Put some tattoos on their motherfucking head. The niggas... Nah, that's what the fuck we gonna do. I already know. Nah, but it's real shit, though. Nah, that's love, huh, boy? Okay, I ain't know that, man. I ain't know you're sitting down there. I think he was going to at first. Before I got drafted? Yeah. Shit, uh... They had, uh... Shit, they said I was gonna go to, uh... Orlando. But then... then I heard I was going to Denver. Then at Denver, drafted me. With Denver, they wanna drive to me. With Denver, drive to me. Um... I was like, shit, why Denver drafted me? Mm-hmm. Because they had already some veteran guards in that motherfucker. Like Fat Lever and... Damn, yeah. Yeah, all the motherfuckers. They had some bad motherfuckers over there. Alex Engliss and... I come in that motherfucking 1988. They had a bunch of bad motherfuckers. And Michael Adams. Yeah, they had all the motherfuckers over there. Michael Adams. Yeah, Michael Adams. Yeah, and Fat Lever. That motherfuckers would be a triple-double motherfucker. And then they had Alex Engliss. And then they had a bunch of bad motherfuckers. I was like, why Denver drafted me? I was like, this motherfucker don't even... What the fuck they drafted me for? So, but they did a favor for San Antonio. Papa Bitch. Had me traded. Soon as I got drafted that night, the same night I got drafted, they traded me like an hour later to San Antonio. So I never went to Denver. So I went straight to San Antonio. And that's when I was playing with Alvin Roberts. And them guys like that. You ever played with Abdul? Play with Abdul, the one who had Tourette's? Yeah, I played against him. That motherfuckers tough. He underrated too, though. I'm about to talk about him. That motherfuckers a killer. I don't like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a killer. That motherfuckers a killer. That nigga was a shot shoot. I ain't want no part of that shit. He was standing on the free-throw line, I'm about to be bopped. That motherfuckers, he getting ready to hit your ass with one of the motherfuckers Jays, though, boy. That motherfuckers a killer. They said that was part of it, too. Nah, that's why, that's what it was. That's what it was. That shit, yeah. He was such a... And he stayed in the gym more than anybody. And that's what he... That's the most love. That man, man, he was a killer, man. Shot after him, man. He was... I don't talk about a brother, you know what I mean? Yeah, man, I do. I do, yeah. Mashes. Yeah, he's a killer. Straight killer. Yeah, man. Make sure I get a tablet, man. You're pulling over there. You know, on the seat. Oh, all right, bet. Yeah, man. I don't know how to tear it up. Nah, they're gonna tell him I should have. That might be the test. Shoot a commercial. These are for half a money bag. Well, I got the... I'm gonna fucking chew it on that. Go Twitter. It still works. It still, come on. Stream Black, but every now and then, it's probably gonna say, we win, man! We win! Oh, shit. You turn it off. Now, hit the little button on the side. Oh, man. Oh, there you go. Now, you know what? I didn't even know we was doing the damn thing right now. You didn't? No. Oh, we been doing it. We been doing it. That's how I go. I thought we were sitting up there fucking around. Wait, we gonna start. We gonna start, man. We win, we win, we win! We win! Everybody have a good time at least. As long as everybody had fun. What, what place? I thought we was up there fucking around. I thought we was up there just chopping it up. I love that shit. This is my fucking shit. I thought that was a big party. I know how to know the shit. Yes, hello. Well, I enjoyed my time in the NBA thoroughly. I've had some great teammates, and we played some great basketball. He goes to the lead all of the first four. Yeah. He's just gonna go back to the old athlete's script. We don't play football. He's still trying to get some money for me. The hand is down in the first half, and we came back, and we switched it up. Got some open shots, and got the ball, moved around, and got my teammates involved. Back to you, Stu. Yeah, let's go, buddy. Cut. Geez, motherfuckers, I'm telling you, man. It was all kind of bitches in the hall. I was professional there. Oh, shit, man. I love this shit. Man, this is the best. I love this shit. Samson. Man, my boys told me, man, you got to come on the Smothersfucket 80. But I was like, what? This is the best one ever. I ain't been on there better than this, man. Yeah, I'm really, I'm really being able to be like, I'm a friend. I ain't no motherfucking goddamn motherfucking bullshitter either. Of course, man. I ain't never been able to do like I'm doing right here, like this, right here. You know, and that's what I always and won't be able to do. You know what I mean? I like to be my motherfucking self and smoke my motherfucking goddamn good, uh... You deserve it. That's what I call it. I'm an old-school ass nigga. And so, yeah, yeah. And I'm ready to talk my shit. You get the best out of me. You know, like this right here. Because I'm comfortable. I'm so comfortable with you niggas, man. I swear to God, man. Hey, that's what you want to be. You brought 40 of your own. And this feel like home for some of you. Oh, my God. My youngest boy and my nephew. And my grandson. And my nephew uncle. This is my uncle nephew. They grew up down the street from me right here. This is my party party. That's what it is. That's what I'm talking about. Yes, sir. All I want to know though... Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. The game was tonight. What you mean the game already happy? I got two tickets to tonight, man. Oh, my God. This thing is crazy. It's another game? Oh, the last week game. Oh, shit. I don't have no shoes, man. Give me what you got. Let me hold some until we get back to San Antonio. Just until we get back to San Antonio. Oh. You know how to fuck NBA, yeah? You got $13 million. You got $13 million. You ain't getting me a motherfucker, man. What do you say? Come on, man. I got a damn bitch dead, man. You know what she got? She got a damn right. She got a damn right. Come on. Yes, yes. Give me me. Look at me. They can't... They can't erase who we were. No. You want to play for some books? No. It's a crazy hard card on your head. No. Oh, shit. No, you're not allowed to walk. Oh, why you have my phone? Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. This is hilarious. Oh, shit. Oh, my goodness, man. Oh, shit. That shit was crazy. Okay, that's a dope-ass question. You said... You said Jordan was one of them motherfuckers. He was like, man, fuck that. Can't say, oh, did you wear his shoes when you played? Oh, no, no. What kind of shoes? Man, I fucked up. Motherfucker, I don't play bad for that. I ain't gonna fuck up. Bitch was paying me to run out that bitch bad for the fuck. Goddamn, I don't play... I ain't gonna fuck up. I mean, I played when I was on some hoax. Man, we had converse when I... Goddamn. I played when I was not down. No matter Johnson converses, I saw that as a damn... Patrick, you don't win some shit. Yeah, I know. I never played in a bill of muffler. Man, play as a gentleman. I'm trying to tell you now, listen up. Well, I'm gonna tell you motherfuckers a secret now. That's why all these motherfuckers will be having these foot injuries and this motherfucking goddamn ankle injuries. Because these motherfuckers play in these motherfucking tennis shoes like this. A short low man. You know, yeah, man. You gotta have some shit over your ankle, man. Your motherfucking young boys better stop this dumb shit, stop trying to be cute. That's some cute shit. That's all it is. That's some cute shit. Man, cover up your motherfucking ankle, man. And when you're... Now, when you shit turn over, it's bad now. Because you gotta have protection. Put that goddamn leather on it. They ain't turn over in them verses. Hey, man. Hey, one of you motherfuckers... Oh, fuck that, though. One of these goddamn shoe covers I'm gonna tell you motherfuckers something. I won't invent a goddamn high top for this motherfucker. Goddamn high top tennis shoe bag. No, goddamn... If it do, goddamn we're gonna sue you. Cam, get the numbers. Cam. I'm sure. Cam gotta get every number. Yeah, that's my mother. That nigga had a number of everything. That ain't gotta have that much. Cam, do me a favor. Next week, just pick a random tan. Call this nigga Bernie and be like, Can't we win, Bernie? Hang up. Dude, hang up. That's all I want. I don't give a fuck when you do it. I don't give a fuck when you do it. I don't give a fuck when you do it. All these niggas, that's what I'm gonna get. That's what I'm gonna get. Man, you got the t-shirts and shit out? Yeah. That's what we got, man. We got that Bernie Maxwell t-shirts coming out to you soon, real soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got that shit coming out. Damn, what else I got going on? Are these for sale? Cause you know what? Yeah, yeah, we got these for sale. Yeah, you got that right. We're gonna be for sale real soon. Go ahead and take that off your hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get that. We gave y'all some t-shirts, man. Y'all got t-shirts. Well, you know what? I'm gonna get mine. I don't know about y'all. So you gotta look at it. Hey, hey, hey. Coming to you soon, the Bernie Maxwell. Don't forget it now. Hey, check it out. You gotta call Cam to get one. Check it out now. Check it out. Got that shit for real. Coming at you. Don't get the big one. You know, it's a little big on the Max, but it's gonna get one of them fitted ones like you know who niggas like to do. We're gonna get them all whatever you want. We're gonna be able to get it. You know, the popular conversation in the sports world is rings or the money. Shit. The money. Hell yeah. Even the big money. Finally. That's hard work, man. That shit ain't gonna do nothing for you, man. Money. Do something for you. Get the money, man. You duke that motherfucker ring. Money. But, I mean, I was blessed, man, to be able to win two of the motherfucker. Come on, man. Come on, man. Got two stills. Yeah. But still, though, damn, I get two of the motherfuckers back and the motherfucker gave me 10 million fucking more meat and dollars. I gave the motherfucker back. Shit. Motherfucker right. I wanna tuck that motherfucker 26 million. I mean, 23 million. How about them 13? I don't know. Oh, you want that? Put them up on where you want to put them out. I mean, I'm just a real ass nigga, man. I mean, shit, man. I mean, I understand these kids be wanting to get these rings, man. Damn. And I understand it. And you gotta understand, but see, it was so much different than now. These motherfuckers make so much motherfucker money. Motherfuckers making 62 million dollars a year, man. So, man, god damn it. Yeah. Yeah, I want some goddamn hardware, man. You know, I want hardware now. My fucker, I'm getting 62 million dollars a year, motherfucker. Yeah, I don't care about the money. I got that shit. That shit already secured. I got a generation. So I'm good. So now, now I really want to win a ring. Now you can take a picture. When I put that shit, it wasn't secured like that. We had no bags secured like that. So shit, I was like, shit, I'm gonna get that goddamn bread. This is different. But I was blessed, like I keep saying, I was blessed to be able to play with a bunch of motherfuckers in Houston that we was able to win. You know, two right now. I mean, that's just hard as hell to do. Oh my goodness, that's just hard as hell to do, my people. That's just hard as hell to do. That's just hard. I don't think people realize it, not too, because, you know, it's been the same team going for so long. It started to look easy because they going, but they beating a bunch of other motherfuckers in Houston, you know what I'm saying? Trying their best at spending money and everything, too. Coming out of college shooting, three-year-long game, shooting hell, yeah. What kind of advice are you giving the young players that's coming up as a veteran? Yeah, when the young guys come to you. But I tell them I'm playing. My boys, people tell them that man, don't even say they don't tell the players that shit, man. You find the motherfuckers talking the most shit, and you walk up there and you slap the fuck out of them. Whatever you can hear the best. No, I'm saying, my thing, it ain't even that. That shit, like, my shit, would I be saying I ain't even say the shit, but I'm going to say I'm going to be a little margin. I'm going to be, I'm going to, I, I, I. See, what I tell the motherfuckers, when I will out, what I really be wanting to tell the motherfuckers, and my man be telling me, like, can't even have my people never be telling me, don't say that shit, man. That shit's awful, man. What do you want to tell them? I be like, man, what do you want to tell them? I be my fucker. You want to tell them the truth, you know? 2% making it every year. I say, what shit, okay, man. I be like, I be telling them before we be going. I be like, man, I'm going to tell them my fuckers, man. Ain't that one of your motherfuckers going to make it? How about that, nigga? That's what I'm going to tell you. My mom's just going to be one thousand. I'm going to be one thousand. I ain't not one of your motherfuckers going to make it today. I'm just going to keep it clean. I'm going to keep it clean. I'm going to be one thousand. And they always don't say that shit, man. You don't believe in me, man. Nah, I just be kidding with my boys, but nah, I believe. But you got to understand, though, man. Y'all got to... That's real, though. I mean, it's being realistic. Like, it's 2% make it every motherfucking year. So... Man, you know how many motherfuckers trying to do this shit, man? Man, that shit is so fucking hard to do. And you got to be knowing somebody. You got to be that nigga. Man, it's hard, the motherfucker, man. If you don't... I mean, it's hard, man. I mean, shit, boy. I mean, unfortunately, when I had some people I knew. You know, a white man who, you know, took me and grew on me. When I was in Gainesville and they helped me out, a white man named Bobby McKibbin, you know, a big alumni white boy. You know, used to build all the motherfucking goddamn apartment around Gainesville and he was a big alumni in Gainesville. So, and Florida, he he grew on me and showed me a lot of shit a little bit and, you know, he ain't humming, I won't slap the shit out you. But he... Hummering up. He hummed me. He hummed me. Well, you know, goddamn boy. You know, I know how to, you know, interact. I know how to switch up from being a hood nigga to being like a corporate nigga. And I got to talk when I need to talk like I got some goddamn sense. And so, but yeah, but yeah. Man, we can talk this shit all night. I know New Face, bro, some shit. We got to get you to sign some shit for the for our Black History Museum. You first. Keep telling them upcoming kids there, too. Because if a motherfucker tells you that you're not going to make it. But you really got to have some... But not to the bulk of that. I want to clean that up, though, too. But to the bulk of that story, though, no, not meaning that you ain't, it's not changed. Just have something to fall back or don't make that your 100% thing that don't make that your 100% thing that you're going to... Because if you don't, you got to like get your goddamn degree and pursue that motherfucker. You know, because a lot of motherfuckers like get a damn degree and they just don't even pursue this shit. Motherfuckers, I'm like, what the fuck are you like that I'm going to school all the goddamn years for? Motherfuckers? There's some dumb ass shit. Now, this is some dumb ass shit. So, I might be talking some of your motherfuckers out of their head, too. I might be talking some of your motherfuckers out of their head, too. Because goddamn, that's some dumb ass shit. How you do that? Because damn, I ain't graduate. I just, I think I need 13. That doesn't mean you need one more semester. You good? Oh, yeah, yeah, but I'm too old for this shit. I ain't going to buy it. They need to go ahead and get you one. Yeah, they need to go home and get making all that shit out of that dumb slaughter. Right. I got you something, too. You know, we got gifts. Oh, man, I appreciate it, baby. You know what? I appreciate your brother. I must love, man. I had to call Cam to get you a sash. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. I got it. Let's take a hit. Let it go, Cam. I'll get this shirt that deal with wind shirt. Hey, I want to say one thing. Hold up, man. DC, man, my condolences go out to your family, man. Hey, man, I must love, man. Hey, man, I just want to say that. Hey, man, stay prayed up. My people love you, baby. I wish you was here, nigga. I know we were born with you. Really, really, really wild. Love your boy. Celebrity Squares, make sure you tune in. He's the new host of Celebrity Squares. No doubt. I got to get you to sign these balls. We performed a couple of weeks ago in Indiana at the Gamebridge Fieldhouse. They made us these dope ass basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Airbrush. That's dope as fuck. We keeping it right here in the Black History Museum. Yeah. That's one of one authentic Slink Johnson step-daddy shoes. Nobody got them shits. That motherfucker got them ships. That man no motherfucker shoes, them ships. Yeah. That motherfucker got them motherfucking boats. They got some big ass things. You got social media. You want to let them know where they can find you at? IG, Bernie Maxwell. Y'all know this. I guess my man said it's Bernie Maxwell. But uh, you just got them and you see my goddamn basketball picture, you know it's me goddamn. Bernie Maxwell 11. What else I got? Twitter. Bernie Maxwell 11. What else I got? I don't know, nothing on TikTok. I got a TikTok account. I don't know, goddamn Google it. Yeah. All right, but that's it. Amen. 85 South Shore, Bernie Maxwell. Let's go. Flax. I appreciate it. Just get a shooter right here. Hell yeah. We'll get a pick.