 Like I got a song with Pablo Juan, he went in the studio, he did a verse, he just sang random shit that rhyming the sentence, you know, like the end bars might be harder, like the first bar might be hard, he just sang random shit, it sounds crazy. And then at the end of the shit, he'll go back in and be like, all right, delete this and he'll replace the stupid word with like a real word, you know, some of it. Yeah we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah we gonna talk. Like we always like to go back when you were younger, when you were a kid, you know, growing up in Arlington, did you have siblings? Were you raised with your mom and dad, stuff like that? I got two grown brothers, they fully white, we got the same mama, but like. They fully white, that's dope. Yeah, but then my niggas. So your mama white? Yeah, my mama white, my daddy black. Okay. I ain't broke, now I'm a white. So you know I can rap, the fuck. No, no, so did I just turn, I thought I turned my shit off, but brothers, I got two brothers, they grown 37, 35. So on your daddy's side, you don't have any? I'm his only child. Wow. I grew up with both my parents, we never like lived together, like for real, for real, but it's always been love, like we all cool. They not together now, they got their own shit going on, but my mom can come stay with us when she in town, when she need to, you know, like, or whatever the fuck going on. Oh, you still stay with your dad? He stay with me. Oh, he move with you, you look out for him. I hope my, you hear that boy? Hell, I hope somebody look out for me and vibe with me. Finna go big house, all that shit. Oh, really? So you have a close relationship with your dad then? That's my best friend, like. That's good. He finna control all my shit. That's dope, man. That's dope because you trust him. Yeah, he just finna like, I've been teaching him shit like, here and there and doing all this and just little shit, cause he went to college, got. You telling me that your dad is gonna help you deal with your estate? Yeah. So basically, I mean, I don't, Beyonce tried to be careful. Nah. Nah, that's a bad word. My dad, he done taught me some shit that's, I don't know, but. You trust him. What's the most important thing that he's taught you? Shit, I don't even know it's so much shit. I'm talking about, be you, keep hustling, shit. Never let people know, like, when you just fucked up, you know, that's what they pray for, yeah. I like that, man. I love to see that. When did you realize you had the talent to rap? Okay, well, with that being said, like in elementary school, I've always had a sense for like music and shit, but I didn't want to do choir. I couldn't sing. They don't want to do band cause I didn't want to play one of them instruments. Like, I'm like shit, but what can I do? Like rapping ain't real, I ain't Jay-Z. Like, you know, like, I ain't Beyonce. I ain't, you know, I ain't Fergie. Like, you know, like, I ain't. I'm thinking, I'm watching these people on TV when they songs come on in the morning. And I'm like, that can't be me. They already famous, you know, like, so my brother was a rapper. Like when I was a kid, his name was A1. His name was A1, yes. And he could actually rap. He was in Allenton? Yeah. A1. I'm trying to think back. Like this nigga probably went hard. He said they're older than you. How much older are they? He said 37. I think she said one was 37. That was like 10 years. Like 15 and 13, 15 years apart and 13 years apart. I'm 23, I just turned 23. You're the baby, baby. Yeah, you know, I'm still figuring shit out. You know, I'm blessed, though. Highly blessed, highly favored. What was I saying? Oh, yeah, he raps. So like, you know, I was like, well, he can go to a studio and find a microphone. So like as I get older, I'm like, I guess it's possible. You know, like, then I start seeing people who rap in and shit. So my 18th birthday, we were just playing. I turned on some Detroit. I said to treat. Detroit style type beats. And I'm just rapping, freestyling, just doing whatever, doing whatever. I'm like, shit, what if I did this for real? I grabbed a notebook. I got a whole, I still got it to this day. The same notebook. I don't write no more. But like at that time, that's all I could do. I didn't have a studio. So I was just like, well, if I write songs, like something, you know, like I'm gonna find a studio. I'm gonna find a microphone. Boom, started writing all that shit and found the studio. Started recording, recording my first song. And it was like, you got to keep going. You can be a star. I'm like, I know, but like, I don't know, you know? No, you dope, man. Oh, I know. But now it took time to be like confident. First time, because normally a lot of people always say the first time they hear themselves after it's mixed and mastered. I was in the studio, it was like this scared to rap and my voice was just cracking. I was like, they were like, just relax. I'm like, all right. And then I did it a little bit more. You can still hear like in my voice that I was scared. You know, and then when people were in the studio, I was scared to rap. I don't know why I was just scared to do me. And then they had to come to a point where I was like, nigga, they fuck with me. They're here because of me. Like, why am I caring what y'all, what I sound like? I'd have been around in the studio, bro. One person I was in the studio with was Lil Key. Rest in peace to him. But like, his songs go crazy, you know? But when he's recording and you're listening, like, you wonder what this finna sound like. You know, like, it's like, but me at the time, I was like, it gotta sound perfect when I'm recording the mic because they're listening to me. You know? But you didn't know that it doesn't have to at that time. Yeah, at that time I didn't until I got around people and I was like, okay, this just rap. Like, I got a song with Pablo Juan. He went in the studio, he did a verse. He just sang random shit that rhyming the sentence. You know, like the end bars might be harder. Like the first bar might be hard. He just sang random shit. It sounds crazy. And then at the end of the shit, he'll go back in and be like, all right, delete this. And he'll replace the stupid word with like a real word. You know? Somebody else I know that they came on and that's what they do. So I was like, just seeing people do different things and shit, I'm like, shit ain't gonna be perfect when you're saying it. You gotta find your own rhythm and you gotta find what works for you. Hell yeah. So after, so when, how old were you when you would say that you found your confidence? How long did it take you? Like, ooh, my voice cracked. Like complete confidence, 22, last year. What made you find your confidence so late? Like, you know, I've always known on that bitch, I've always known that shit. But in rap? But, no, oh, rap, I knew for sure I had that shit in like 2018. Like, I knew that for sure I know that shit now just because it's a lot of shit that out of influence. Regardless if people see it or not, I see it in a lot, people see it.