 All right. I see tennis ball here on my computer. So let's call this meeting to order. I see that all members are present and accounted for. And welcome back to our monthly meeting. Doesn't look like we have any public people to be heard. So let's review the minutes, questions, additions from last month. Do I hear a motion to accept them? I move. I second. Okay, we're looking to begin. Susan, could I just say I'm reading the minutes. I was very sorry to have missed this meeting. Oh, it was quite fun to be here and discussing all of it. And Prudence, I think you captured it all green, you know, everything is covered. I have a question about the minutes. So are we following Robert's rules of order? I guess we're supposed to. Okay, because they do have a minute format, which would be the topic, decision, motion, and discussion, as they're presently done, the minutes would not occur. So the minutes would be probably a half a page through a page. So I guess my question is, is that they, do we want to keep the minutes as they are? Or do we want to go to Robert's rules of order? My opinion is I like the minutes as they are, with little summaries of what we discussed. Okay, okay. I would just add that, you know, because I sit on six boards or something and the council as well. And what we're doing is kind of a modified, relaxed Robert's rules of order. Right. And so, you know, what works for, as long as it's not too little, I think what works for the board is probably okay. Okay. Thanks. See, Michelle has joined us just in time for item 5A. Congratulations on being open, Michelle. We are loving it, we are loving it. Okay, so Robin has the foot care scope of services, both that health and wellness and the foot care scope of services have gone to purchasing to get released. So we have a list of preferred vendors and of course it'll follow the city's policies on purchasing for release on the various sites that the city does that. Robin, do you want to pull up the foot care scope of services? She could be doing her other job. Robin, multi-tasking master. So essentially, I think Robin, you want to go up to the first page. Looks like that's the last page. Right. So I think I mentioned to you all last month, last meeting that we'd had foot care for many years, originally part of Longmont United Hospital's home care agency and then that home care agency separated and then that home care agency closed. So between that and COVID, we have not offered foot care. So the reason why we would do foot care is because it is so critical to the health and well-being, especially of older adults who may be having things like hammer toes, diabetes-related health issues, neuropathy, et cetera. So gave a little bit of a reason why we would single out foot care as an issue. And then I have the scope of work. So it would be provided here on site at least two days a month. That's what we were doing prior that we would not charge them for the room. And that they would work with us around providing some educational programs on foot care at no charge. So the proposal goes on for the formal requirements. And then Robin, if you'd go to page two, I just want to review some of the evaluation criteria and see if you all want to add anything else to this. So we're looking for a licensed professional foot care. And so we want to make sure that this is a specialty of the agency, that they have the license and the experience to do that. That's affordable. And those are really the key. I have put ability to provide bilingual bi-cultural services. And so those those seem to me to be the key three key things, affordability, that they have licensure professional probably should add insurance in there. But I think it's elsewhere in the document and bilingual. So in terms of anything else, you would want to evaluate a vendor on for a foot care program. Is there anything missing there? We want to say anything about possibility of them accepting, I don't know, Medicare or other insurances. Is that a, I mean, would that be something that we could fit it also or not? Yeah, so other payment options are, I think that's a good one. Yes, we could add that in if they can demonstrate how they accept other forms of payment. Michelle, is there a way that we can, I guess, maybe review well, reviews of the company that's applying? So it would be their performance and customer satisfaction. Okay, we can ask for that in the process that they would bring some demonstrated customer feedback or something like that. Yeah, I just feel like that would be something that's really important. I just think having somebody, you know, that has good reviews is more likely to stick around in the program and give good service. So those, if you think of something else, please tell me that these are both the foot care and the overall health and wellness are in our purchasing department right now for review. I will add this information and then hopefully by June we'll have a time schedule for when our proposals are returned and a schedule to interview and review the proposals. Any other questions, comments about this? If not, Robin, I think you can pull it down. Great. Thank you, Robin. And then we're moving on to the discussion and follow up for the proclamation of the annual report to council on 427, which thank you, Art and Michelle did. Art, you're muted. I just have to say that I felt comfortable with it, thanks to the help of Michelle on my little presentation. I did an outstanding job and it was very good. I thought it was a very good report. In fact, it was only, if I recall, a couple of questions. So it was pretty well covered as far as I was concerned. Yeah, I thought it went very well and you both did a very good job. Thank you. Good suggestion, Marsha. And thanks to Art. You know that whole virtual thing is presenting virtually is an interesting experience. So, yeah. Looks like you've had a little bit of experience at that. Well, Erica did the PowerPoint. That was huge. That is not my forte and that helped a ton. Thank you, Robin. Yes. Maybe your next job, Michelle, should be in video business. He's staying far away from that one. Yeah. Yes, I was interviewed twice this past week about the reopening. That's enough publicity contact for me for a year. All right. So moving on to June 2nd, where we have a maybe option to meet in person or virtually if Kari can do so. So I have not checked in with Kari. We can certainly do virtual and Robin and Kari could get together to make sure we're organized to manage her PowerPoint, her presentation. So it's just a question. We do have yoga going on in the gym on Wednesday. So it will be, I would have to really hunt for a room that could hold you all and meet the space calculator unless of course that changes next week. Or do you want to just go ahead and go forward if in plan for that June meeting to be virtual? And do you understand that it'll be mostly Kari Middleton presenting on reframing aging? Just confirming all those things. So virtual, show of hands maybe? Reluctantly. Okay. All right. So I guess we'll do it virtual. And then Robin, I'll connect Robin with Kari Middleton and we'll do just the basic business, open the meeting and go from there. But it will be mostly the presentation on reframing aging. So. Michelle? Yeah. All right. You know, I'm okay with the virtual for next month. But I also, I would like to see as it started again in person as soon as possible. I agree. Well, the July, yeah, maybe in July. Can you give us a room? Yeah, get us a room in July, please, please. Yeah. Janine, you're muted. Sorry. It'll also give us an opportunity to have experienced the senior center being open for two months. And will allow us to have a little more time in terms of seeing where our current pandemic is moving in what direction. So I was going to suggest that we plan on July. But I think July will be better than June. Okay, sounds good. Sheila, did you have something you wanted to say? Okay. Then age well plan update. So we saw a draft plan from the air agency on aging that really I'm going to just kind of go backwards to go forward. We did our first age well plan county wide in 2006. We did an update in 2010 and an update in 2014. We were on track to do an update in 2018. And the air agency on aging did a shift and really focused on some data. And several of you have that book past, present and future. It was a data compilation in 2018. And then in 2019, we were doing focus groups and we held a summit really trying to dig a little deeper into that data. And then COVID hit. So we never had a 2018 plan. And the next four-year plan would be in 2022. So the air agency on aging has suggested kind of an interim plan that really focuses on continued emphasis and responding relative to the pandemic. So it's about technology. It's about connection. So we reviewed that last week. So I will be sending that out to you all after this first revision that we should be getting here. I would expect in the next week or two. And that I would hope in July we could really spend considerable time focusing on that plan, that interim plan, as well as give input on the 2022 process. So if that will work for you all and for those of you, Julie, maybe Prudence, if you have questions about this age well planning process, now's the time. Ask me about it. If you don't have that past, present and future book, I can get that to you. So let's just talk about that. I don't have a copy of that book. So I would like to have a copy. Okay, Julie, I can do that. Actually, I don't think I have one. Okay. So maybe I do. And I just have lost track of it. But I read it with a much more critical eye than when I received it the first time, if I received it the first time. Okay. Looks like most of us might need that, Michelle. I don't know that. Okay. I look for it. I don't spend a while. I did not receive it. Everyone gets a copy. Okay. So will you send that via email? If I can get an electronic version from the AAA, I will send it electronically. And if not, it'll be mailed. But I'll try. I'm going for electronic. Michelle, do you have some in the office? Yes, I do. I'm volunteering there tomorrow morning so I can pick it up. I will get that to you tomorrow. You know, honestly, is there an urgent deadline? Because we could just all pick it up in July. Yeah, rather than mailing them. Okay. We can do that too. Do I pick one up from your office? I'll put them at the front desk. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Oh, even better. Yeah, I want to swing by and see too. Yeah. Yeah, I will put it at the front desk. So that document is really data. Yeah. And the area agency on aging hired a planner, Lindsay Parsons, and she really put that piece together. So we are in some ways a little ahead and in some ways years behind, and in some ways we have a whole new set of data from the pandemic. So I think the 2022 process will be different. And I hope that you all have some good ideas about that. You know what, the engagement. And I can prepare some information and talk to you a little about how we've engaged people in the past and the surveys we've done. But this plan not only sets the priorities for the area agency on aging in the federal dollars that come through that agency, but also the state dollars that are coming through that agency. And right now they are getting $1 to $2 million in CARES Act funding as a result of the pandemic. And so they use that plan to guide their funding. And Longmont Senior Services has used that plan to guide some of our initiatives. And so I think it's important. It's a very important planning tool. And we have used it in conjunction with the Longmont Comprehensive Plan Envision Longmont. We added an appendix to the Envision Longmont Comp plan that was Envision Longmont Aging Well. And so we, and Marsha could certainly speak to this, but the city of Longmont doesn't need 20 different planning, guiding documents. And so weaving it into the comp plan was a really huge success and important milestone, I think. So you all get to carry that torch going forward. So 2022 will be a big year. You know, Michelle, I have my issues with Envision Longmont, but I think the Aging Well is one of the best sections that's more aspirational. Yeah, so good job anyway. Yeah, it was important to have a guiding document and to be in there. So that plan is starting to materialize. But I will tell you, no 2018 plan, just this interim plan. And I will get that to you. It looks like Robin has a hand up. Robin, did you need to say something? No, I don't have a hand up. I don't see what that is. I'm sorry. Oh, okay. Never mind. So moving on to other old business, no old business. So new business, council retreat topic regarding area agency on aging. So, Marcia, do you want to talk about this at all? You probably know a little bit more than I do about where this came from. Yeah, I do. I know all there is to know about it. The council retreat was supposed to be focused on the LHA reorganization and what the council needed to know to function as the LHA board of directors, which it now does. And Joan actually added this to the agenda. And I am not sure why, other than because the bulk of the LHA properties now are for older adults. So I assume that she and Sandy have had more conversations about what she wants out of that. And I confess that I had suggested to Sandy that we, you know, they're giving us, because they're trying to keep it one day long, they're giving us study guides in advance. And I had suggested that this be a study guide in advance so we could focus more on housing, which is the real deep need. But you'd have to ask Joan, you know, what she feels that it's on the agenda for. We have discussed and we have a long list of ways, and Michelle, I'm sure you know this much better than I do that in which the current LHA properties fall short of meeting the needs of our aging population, mostly accessibility stuff. And so I can surmise that that was Joan's intention. That's helpful, Marcia. Thank you. So where the Area Agency on Aging and this advisory board intersect is in a couple ways. First, Janine is your designated liaison to the Boulder County Area Agency on Aging Advisory Council. Every piece of the United States has an Area Agency on Aging, and for us, Boulder County was, government was designated our Area Agency on Aging for Boulder County. They get the federal funds from the Older Americans Act. They are required to form an advisory council. So Janine sits as your liaison, plus there are some at large seats. And there's some other folks from Longmont who are a part of that council. I am putting together a graphic for the retreat that sort of talks about the Denver Regional Council of Governments and the Boulder County Area Agency on Aging. And the reason being is for many from 1973 through 1990, the Denver Regional of Council of Governments was our Area Agency on Aging for Boulder County. And in 1990, Boulder County got designated. So I think my understanding is there was some interest in looking at what Dr. Cog does as the Area Agency on Aging for the Metro Area and what Boulder County does for us. And so Janine, I'm working with Christine, who's the Director of the Area Agency on Aging to put together some information for the retreat. And my understanding is the retreat is now in July. Yes. That was my next thing is this keeps getting put off and put off. So there's not a real hurry here. So I will plan to bring that information back to either the July or the August meeting. Just so the board is on the same page as the Council in terms of the services, the dollars, the relationships. But I think it's a great time to just take a look at the Area Agency on Aging and what they do for us and what they do with us. So I just want to do all to be aware that's on the horizon. And it's a good, it's a good follow up. And it's a good question to ask relative to the Housing Authority. Here's a really good example. We are looking at doing some things technologically and safety wise in the properties, the senior properties specifically. And I turned to the Area Agency on Aging and I said, can I get money for this? So put on my Longmont Housing Authority ad. And the answer was, yeah, I think you can. So Joan is right in sort of pointing out that they might be a resource for helping us keep folks housed safely and well. So more to come probably on that. So thanks. Any questions? All right. Not about that, but I was just curious now that the senior center is reopened as of this week. Are you getting people dropping in for information or is it most people making appointments? So Robin, would you like to take a stab at answering that? If you're not multi-tasking? Sorry, I did not hear the question. Yeah, so just a question about people coming in the building. Are they dropping in, making appointments? How are classes going? Can you just give a little sense of what the last couple days have been like? People don't need to make an appointment to come in. So yeah, they can just walk in and... Are you getting drop-ins? Yes. Good. And then they're coming in for classes mainly. So we've had, I think we had 21 for yoga today. Is that right? Or 21 for fitness this morning maybe? 21 for fitness. And I think we have about 20 to 23 for yoga in a few minutes. Yeah. Pent-up demand. What? I'm sorry. I said it's pent-up demand. Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess the Memorial building had these classes earlier in the year. And they were like, oh, they never fill up. But when they're over here at the senior center, they're starting to fill up. So that's cool to see. The knitters, the knitters are here today. They are outside. It's a little brisk. But I think there's probably 10 or 12 people out there picking up yarn and talking and connecting. We've had some pool players. We've been able to resume the lunch bunch, which is the early stage dementia. Social group. So that met Monday and it's meeting again today. Tax aid is continuing. There's an energy in the building. It's just, it's lovely. It's and cars in the parking lot. It just makes all of us very happy. That's really encouraging. Yeah. I was a grater yesterday and I was really impressed with how happy people are to be back together. I mean, that was a big issue with people coming in for their yoga class and people just coming in in general. I could hear and see in their face the joy of just having that opportunity to interact. So it's been sadly missed and people are very happy that they can now come again. Thank you for doing that, Janine. We have another volunteer out there today that Robin worked with. And I think Julie and Art are rounding out Thursday and Friday. So we appreciate that extra. We weren't sure what it was going to be like and it's great to have someone out there with smiling eyes. You know, my Irish father would appreciate the smiling eyes behind the mask and and it's been fun. We do have our memorial altar up and we have had some comments from people and Mr. Uvaldo Valdes said to me that he really appreciated. He thought it was really lovely Robin. I don't know if you've had other comments about the altar, but Robin and Brandy and Veronica did a beautiful job putting the altar down. Veronica did a beautiful job putting the altar together. We had a very meaningful and private opportunity as a team to sort of launch or in my my lingo bless the altar before we reopened and we are inviting people to add to it. Names and or items that are meaningful if they would like to do that. So I don't know Robin if you want to say anything about comments you've had or not had but I think Julie and Art Janine you would have seen it yesterday. Erica did a beautiful poster in English and in Spanish inviting people to the memorial altar and it was important for us as a team and I think it's important for our community to understand the impact that this pandemic has had on our older community members so. Yeah, sorry Michelle I don't have other comments just people, a lot of people stopping to look at it so. Thanks Robin. You're going to go dark on us again. Probably yeah. Okay. Thank you all thank you. Anything else that you have to discuss under new business. Prudence. If my memory serves me correctly. Michelle. Are you planning to retire this year. May of 2022 is sort of my target date prudence. Okay. And so that's a bit away but I have a question. Is the when will the position be posted. What is the process for hiring and will there be an interim, and I had one more question. Will the senior advisory council get to interview the candidates. You know, these are great questions. And in January prior to the pandemic. The city manager had planned to meet with some of us who are planning to retire and talk about those very things and other things. And the pandemic sort of swept us aside and so I will reach out to Harold I think these are great questions and he is really the person who will be driving that bus. Yeah, I will pass those along prudence and, and maybe he can pop in and a meeting later this year and visit with you all about that I think he has been super thoughtful and engaged when other people have left, and I think he will do the same. So, yeah, and I think one. I think to something Marsha mentioned. The fact that so many of the LHA properties are senior properties. I think there's that that's another question. I think going forward is the relationship between the division of senior services and, and that component of the Longmont Housing Authority. We are really working a lot of us very closely and those properties and I think that's one of the things that we need to know. And I don't see half of that work, and I don't see that ending though it may be changing a little. And so I think those, that's another element of me leaving is what's that going to be like. I think, yeah. And for sure, we need to know. You can let Harold know those things. Yeah. I don't know whether I'm talking out of school here but one of the ideas about, you know, there are three major projects essentially set to launch in terms of new LHA developments. And one or two of them depending on how you count is at least under discussion is being part assisted living and part family. And that's another thing. Which, G Michelle, that seems like designing a community like that ought to be right up your alley. And you could be enticed to to stay involved just a little longer. But, but that is going to be a side from trying to hang on to Michelle. And I think that's going to be a very exciting advisory opportunity for all of us, because, you know, that's so so much of a potential win win situation that I'm excited about it. Partable assisted living is a huge gap in our community and I'm very excited that Harold's interested and others are interested in pursuing that. It's very exciting. So, 4040 years is a long time to be here it's probably time for some fresh ideas and fresh energy and I'm confident the team and you all will carry that forward. I do have a new business item Susan so get on the agenda if it's the time is now. The time is now. We have had an informal arrangement with Boulder County area agency on aging, where they have funds they call short term assistance. And our resource specialist Amy Veronica and Melissa can utilize those funds for things like rent eyeglasses dental care, very similar to what we use the friends last resort money for. They have decided to do a more formal process. And so I will be completing a solicitation for qualifications through Boulder County government and asking for a pot of funds, and I'm asking for $35,000. We will probably historically we have run those requests through the friends of the senior center. Going forward, I'm going to ask probably. It's not 100% but I'm pretty sure for those funds to go to the city of Longmont, and then Veronica and Amy and Melissa will access them through the city process. So, and also, we asked for more money, because of the relationship with Longmont Housing Authority. I think we, we as senior services staff have been in those senior properties more and I think we have a greater understanding of the need there, and outreach we've been doing. So, we're, we'll be asking for funds through that process and those funds are going to go, I think, through the city of Longmont rather than the friends so we'll see how that goes, but it will mean more money, which is great. And a little bit different tracking mechanism through the city process. So, I'm very excited to formalize that and get that solidified informal agreements are great when you've worked with people for years and years but when you're getting ready to leave it's probably time to tie it up. So Michelle, will that be something we have to put in motion every year or is it once and done. Yeah, the county typically does a three to five year agreement, and then it's reviewed. So, that's our hope. Yeah, that it will be multi year before it's reviewed. So, but anyways, it's great. And it's another way we're connecting with our agency on aging and getting those funds into Longmont and getting the right people, which is our resource staff, making those connections. So, theoretically friends funds could possibly funds say like a part time staff member or something like that if we're freeing up these 35,000. I know Susan that's a great question and my staff would tell you that the area agency on aging money is for people 60 and above, and having the friends funds be for 55 and above is really been helpful. Last year we've had several people 5557 who lost their jobs due to coven had financial needs that the friends have been able to help where the area agency on aging would not have been able to help. Prudence I think you had your hand up. Yeah. I'm, I wanted kind of to know if what's the, how did you come up with $35,000 and is there an opportunity because it sounds like they're going to get a lot of money, whether that amount is too conservative. Yeah, so I met with the staff yesterday. And we were all over the map from 20,000 to 50,000. What should we ask for. And really the important thing is you have to spend it. I mean if you commit to it you really got to be sure. So we looked back over the last several years, what we've spent. And then we factored in the newer developing relationship with housing authority properties and they felt pretty good about 35. That that's sort of where we landed. There are additional funds that we will also apply for through this process that go directly to supporting caregivers. So it doesn't have the age limitation. It doesn't help pay for respite care, personal care and other things for someone who is actively engaged in caring for someone over 60. So, we haven't landed yet on that dollar amount because that's kind of a new way for us to look at doing things, but that's an additional opportunity. Thanks. Good question. So that's on the horizon and I will keep you updated how that how that goes. Michelle how much time do they I mean, do they expect this money to be used up within a three or five years that you're talking about or or sooner. So the county, the county's fiscal calendar is June 30 to July 1 or July 1 to June 30 whichever. And so that $35,000 art has to be spent in that 12 month period from July 1 of 2021 to June 30 of 2022, or, or thereabouts, it's, I don't know, the county calendar is close to that. So yeah, that has to be spent at 12 month period. And again, you have to apply for this and at this point we don't know if we're going to receive that. So we that's correct. We have to submit our qualifications. And then they will decide if we are worthy. And you don't know when that will have you don't know when the deadline is for that. The deadline for the proposal is May 14 that Friday and then I'm sure we will know there soon after because the the fiscal year will start. At the end of June. So thank you. And similar to the city, they have to do an open competitive process, which is just the right thing to do. Yeah. One of the suggestions at the last day AC. Meeting was if we had any ideas about how to spend the funds that they've been allocated, we should share it and we have another meeting on Friday so I will be happy to share my support of them, giving money to long month. Long month. Oh, yes. And a shout out under my report. The area agency on aging has just committed to 50 Chromebooks. So we will be giving away another set of Chromebooks. I met with Valerie from next light this more Tuesday morning about some partnerships around access for the LHA senior properties to next light what what we could do if we could find some funds to help with the internet access so they are definitely working on behalf of long month. Jeanine and it's been great to partner with them. So, is next slide in the LHA buildings. Next slide is in the sweets. It is in the hearthstone in the lodge. And it's getting ready in June to go into Aspen meadows, senior apartments and aspen meadows neighborhood. I'm not sure about fall river spring creek and village place it may already be there Susan I, I don't know that. But I know it's going into Aspen meadows in June. So they're moving along with access even without people saying, I want this, I want this. Yeah, I think our city leadership has been all over this and doing really great work. Anything else on new business. If you've seen the summer go you know that Larry is leaving. He's resigned effective June 18. So, we have submitted the paperwork to refill his position and if that is all approved I will be coming back to you all to see who would like to be a part of the hiring. So, I may or may not have said this but Larry and his wife just welcomed their third child a little baby girl on April 13th. Um, Ember storm. I'm like, you have just given that young girl some big. Big names Ember and storm. So, um, so he and his family are moving back to the Northeast. So we're very sad to lose Larry but also very happy for him. So that position will be will be coming. Hopefully we'll be filling that position. Um, through the month of May we are sticking to 8am to 1pm. And then we anticipate if Boulder County Public Health does release the new orders we've heard about that are coming in the middle of May we will look at June, July and August. And then we will look at the changes. The staff is meeting and we met twice this week already to just sort of do a reopening check in and adjust accordingly and made some minor adjustments just to make sure we're welcoming. We're responding to what we're hearing. We're managing our resources, etc. And we'll continue to do that. At the same time, our staff are now planning September, October, November, which we certainly hope we are more open by then. Megan's looking at some trips, possible day trips and our softball season kicked off so we have softball players. We have four teams that are out competing. So we're just trying to stay as connected as we can and and adjust and asking forgiveness as we adjust. Yes, we said this yesterday tomorrow we're saying this. And that's kind of how we have been adjusting to this pandemic all along and we're trying to be fair and keep people informed, but also being responsive. So, I told I told my boss Karen Ronnie, this whole reopening is like sitting on a very pointed fence, you know, it's painful left and it's painful to the right, but we're, we're, we're using, we're using the best of our team to figure this out. If you hear things aren't Julie, as you greet people, you know, we want to be informed we want to hear from people and we, we want to be responsive. So, because of the shutdown, and people aging during this shutdown because that doesn't stop. I haven't heard at the reader door but I have heard through the grapevine that we may be needing to recruit a couple of more trip escorts. We've been talking to our marketing person Susan about volunteer reengagement. Because you're right, aging has continued and we have folks who a year and a half ago may have been more able or more interested or more willing than they are today so it has definitely been a topic among our team. It's not just about reopening. It's not just about reengaging as a team but it's also reengaging with our volunteers our teachers, our instructors are our softball managers are hike leaders, all of those folks so definitely we're talking about it and Erica is aware. So, yeah. Great point though. I think that's it for my report. Okay. And Marsha. You're off. Yes, I think the, you know, the big news which we've already talked about is that there will be a city council retreat that is is focused on public housing and our plans for public housing. So, once again, I'm like to say I'm really, really interested if anybody wants to write me a note or arrange a call. Sorry. Then that would be that'd be great you know all the feedback that I can take into that will be wonderful. I expect it to be mostly a learning experience for the council since we have a new job, but it, it never hurts to have you know to hear as many voices as possible. And it is an open meeting so if anybody wants to come along and listen. That's allowed, or at least it used to be allowed. So, will you be meeting in person as a council or is it all zoomie. So we're, we, we specifically decided that this time we're going to meet in person, and we're all vaccinated now and everybody is central from the city staff is also vaccinated even if they're not old. Yeah, so it's going to be an in person meeting it may be outdoors, or depending on you know where the county stuff hits, then it may not be. And I need to kind of return the call I just shut off and since we are at the end of the meeting unless nobody has if nobody has anything to say to me I'm going to drop off. I do Marsha. Okay. As far as these retreat. Are you talking about locations and need for what exactly are you talking about. Actually, it's more about the rules and financing and timelines and priorities I think. But you know they're a housing authority is is this whole universe of its own. And the Venn diagram, Michelle's they're going yeah, it is Venn diagram includes HUD and Dola and oh it's complicated. So, it, as I said it's mostly going to be learning for us. Yeah. I just need to share with you because when I make my report to the council I'm going to bring it up at the long month. Economic development partnership, there were some statements made by two city council people that people that did not support development were uneducated or uninformed and I need to tell you that one I disagree with that I don't think that you know that's necessarily the case. And we said nothing at the time because I was there as senior advisory board member and I wasn't willing to do a personal response. As I was representing the board but I just needed to make that statement and I know the importance of housing I know the importance of development. But there are also other considerations that have become paramount and just needed to make that statement. Well, I will say I have the two council members were almost certainly me and Tim waters. So, you know, there's no need to be diplomatic about that. We need to be very careful how we manage the remaining growth in Longmont and I do understand that there was a period in the 80s and 90s when that it was not managed with some fairly unpleasant results. But I am adamant that a vote for zero growth in the in the sense that that the city of Boulder has now which they will they will not enforce it's impossible, but a vote for homelessness. You know I spend my. I spend my. A lot of my time engaged with the precariat of Longmont and and their needs are staggering. And I don't like to think about a community where our teachers don't live here are wait people don't live here. And our fire fighters don't live here. And, you know, it goes on and on, you need to make you either need to have paid for your house a long time ago, or make a six figure income to enter Longmont now, or to stay in Longmont if you're out of a family and want your own place now. And I, I stand by it that we, we do not need to be that kind of a community and I don't remember using the word uneducated, but certainly there are forces in play that are not well understood growth concern also it's not necessarily supporting zero growth. Supporting what I'm sorry Janine I didn't hear. I said being concerned about growth does not necessarily mean you support zero growth. So there's, there's much in between. Okay. I think we shouldn't build any more big houses at all. Okay, I really do have to go. Thanks everybody. Thanks Marsha Janine anything else from the area agency on aging. Well, it was, it was a pretty intense meeting. I think that there's been a lot of restructuring. You said area on agency. I'm sorry I'm still I did Longmont development. Yes. It was a very long and impactful meeting this past month. We met in groups and then came together at the end. The focus really is on housing. It was jams j a m s. The first was housing jam. We discussed issues with affordability. And those issues include the problems that seniors are having with downsizing when they downsize and purchase smaller homes they lose their homestead exemption tax wise. And we're looking at that as an issue as a problem, looking at how that can be helped. Looking at, you know, people have brought up things like tiny homes, but tiny homes. There would have to be changes in terms of code and zoning changes in order to look at any kind of tiny home development. So we're looking at that as an issue as a problem, looking at how that can be helped. Looking at, you know, people have brought up things like tiny homes, but tiny homes. We're looking at a kind of tiny home development. We discussed, you know, the ins and outs of reverse mortgage, if that is going to be possible, you know, educationally to educate elders about the ins and outs of reverse mortgage, and especially as we're trying to support people remaining in their homes. How can they financially afford that in our county, which has really gotten out of control in terms of price and cost, not just for older adults for all of us, but especially for people on limited incomes. So we discussed mental health issues like. Michelle has a question. Oh, I'm sorry. Janine. For years, the county Boulder County has had a reverse mortgage person, a staff person who. Is the AC talking about doing that differently, doing more outreach around that? How are they talking about working with that individual? I think it's more about outreach, having it accessible for people to get that information. You know, it's like many services. We often have a lot of services, but if people don't know about them, and don't see it as a viable option, then they're looking at, you know, making it more accessible, the information more accessible so people can make good choices in that area. Any other questions about that? Okay. I think it's much better and wording appears to be far more of a problem than I had ever believed that it was. And that was addressed in terms of assessment of that and support. So I think there are ways to report concerns and ways to go about helping. It is a mental health issue as well as a safety issue. And unfortunately, sometimes it doesn't get reported as quickly and as efficiency, officially, as it needs to be. And then want to support the maintenance of homes that help in that area is available to senior citizens and let them know that, you know, they can get help, they can get funds, if they need to do that. I also had a long discussion about transportation needs in the community. And the fact that we have a lot of public transportation and need to work on how to make that more accessible, especially what they call the first and last mile. We sometimes have services, but we don't necessarily have a way to get people to the bus stop or home from the bus stop and how we can better support the services that we have now like via and cultivate in terms of having people have transportation available. I had a long discussion about the giving up of keys, which is when do seniors decide not to drive anymore. And in order to do that successfully we have to have alternatives for them to be able to have transportation when they need it. They discussed other alternatives like serving people with disabilities, how many of our bus services still don't have wheelchair ramps or wheelchair places available alternatives in terms of ride sharing, and also education about how to navigate the transportation system, because a lot of older adults don't really know how to navigate alternative transportation methods. The third jam was economic stability food security. We discussed aging 101 as far as more integration of programs and connection more classes in terms of retirement having classes before rather than at at retirement. And we also under aging 101 discussed how COVID-19 has worsened the age discrimination issue. We did ongoing discussion of fraud scams and theft. It's a major problem. It's become an increased problem since COVID-19. And we discussed what services are available outreach programs tools. And AC has several programs that respond to fraud and can assist people with navigating the whole concept of fraud. Again, the education is getting people to know where to go and know where to access. I also wanted to add that I attended a Boulder County orientation for board members. And I found that incredibly helpful. I had not done that as a board member and I, you know, anyone that is on a county board or even Michelle, I was wondering if we might pursue whether anyone who wanted to attend that might be able to attend it. It was in the online orientation. It took about two hours. They discussed all kinds of things, including racial equity, dealing with the press, Robert's rules of laws, you know, conduct, what you do, what you don't do, what you're responsible for, what you aren't responsible for. And I just thought, wow, I found it very helpful. And I thought I was really kind of naive when I came on to a board about, you know, what my responsibilities were, even attendance responsibilities. So I would highly recommend it. Who put that together, Janine? Well, it was Boulder County. And I assumed that I was asked to do that because of my position on the Boulder County area on aging. And it was put on by Boulder County and it was just, it was really worthwhile. Excellent, excellent. Well, I'll follow up with Lindsay and ask her thanks. And I attended something that was purported to be that last year that it was much longer. It was over several weeks, an hour a week. And I'm afraid I ended up not attending all of the meetings because it was not worthwhile. And it didn't give me what I wanted. It didn't give me what they were supposed to give me. And nobody else who attended was have the same reaction as well. So I'd be very interested in this. Yeah. I think two hours was planning number one. And maybe because it was online or maybe they've revamped it. I don't think I would have gone every week for six weeks, but this, this was really good. It was only online for an hour every single term. So it was, it wasn't the time it was the content. Okay. Now we're up to the friends where Sheila stood in for me last meeting. In addition to the review of their financial reports and they everybody was very happy that they weren't good shape. There was a discussion about using Dropbox to store. Notes, financial statements and so on. And I don't think that would affect us. And I don't know whether anybody on the advisory, our advisory board would need to have access. But that was discussed in quite a lot of detail as to what should be, what should be stored, how it should be stored. Who should have access even among the friends board or anybody outside the friends board. So I don't think that's something that we need as the documents that we, we produce a minimum I suppose. There was also discussion about the reimbursement from the area. I'll call it the AAA. I can never remember the three A's that Michelle was discussing a little earlier. And the result was because not only was there the possibility of more money going to the friends, but there was more administrative work involved that people were not really prepared to do for the possibility of more money. So they decided to continue receiving money in the more informal way. Also their website is going to be revamped because it's old and there's some misinformation in it. So that's going to happen but Bruce Armstrong I think is taking that lead on that. And that's they have the main points of the last meeting. Thank you. And then just an FYI sticks out at me. Julie's last name is H8USDR on the TRG listing. I think it just got transferred from one month to the next on that template that you have. I love Susan that you always catch it. And it just passes right by me every time because I think I've probably seen my, my name is spelled so many times over the years. So did you meet or not? Well, I can't remember the, yeah. No, so Michelle actually sent me the meetings from the March 11th meeting and they have decided to dissolve the TRG. And it sounds like it's they've increased their, and Michelle correct me if I'm wrong, or if you have more to add, but they've increased the, the amount of staff that they have there. And the rules around making the decisions and the funding have become more complex. And it sounds like sort of what's happening is that what's the team, what the TRG is doing is sort of repeating what the other, what the staff members are having to do. So it's a little bit redundant. And so they feel like they just need to phase out the TRG and bring it all back in to the housing authority. So, yeah, anything to add Michelle and really kind of in a nutshell, all everything that that they, that the report says. Yeah, you know the only the only way the kind of the way I think about it I guess is the housing and human services advisory board is advisory to council. The TRG was advisory to the human housing and human services advisory board so think that it was a two layers of advice and, and that got, I think, unwieldy as the rules and the mechanics got more complicated. So yeah, so hopefully there'll be different ways for the boards and commissions to participate, but it won't be through this process. So was the last meeting the last meeting. Think so. So Julie is now a free agent to for a liaison position. Yes, we're up to you art on the Boulder County Latino Coalition, which Marcia would still hear about the Michelle might know a little bit about this Boulder Valley rapid transit that they're looking at. It's built several years away. They're looking at input and it what it is. It's, and I'm not sure how much it'll affect seniors, but they're looking at a like a rapid rapid survey study to look at transportation from Longmont all the way to Broomfield. So in other words, instead of one stop after another, a pickup location here, Longmont, and it would stop and Lafayette somewhere and go all the way to Broomfield and then return. But like I said, it's it's a whole idea is that to reduce the congestion and how many of our seniors would be using that kind of transportation. But I just wanted to bring that up. And if we feel that it's necessary, we could get some more information. One of the things I did bring up is the need of, you know, how do our seniors get to it. And one of the things that they talked about was that it sure be nice if we could get a senior housing near 287 so people would have access to it. But again, that would be to a limited number of people. But anyway, that was, that was something that brought up. Like I said, it's there. They're just at the beginning stages. It sounds like it can, you know anything about that, Michelle. Okay. And like I said, as I get more information on that, I will bring it up. You have information. Yeah, I think, you know, there's been a lot of discussion at the governor's level about the transit issues with Longmont and RTD. There's also, I read, and this may be part of it, of building a train on I-25, like most cities have, you know, they have their, well here it's a highway, but most cities have freeways. And there's train tracks built like in the middle so people can go very far to Pueblo, to Fort Collins, into Denver. So that's part of what they're talking about. And it seems that Governor Polis is putting, has added his voice to the conversation about the lack of RTD's commitment to transit for Longmont. So I think it's, you know, they've talked about adding a third lane to 119, which would be rapid bus. Right. Right, rapid bus, because right now the bus stops at every single stop. And just consolidating stops and then having a rapid and it would be a bus only lane. Yeah. So I think it's kind of exciting that the governor has become involved. However, I don't see it within my lifetime. I was just going to say the same thing, because all the various transportation issues and ideas that have been going on for four years. I mean, anything is decided now. Right. Ten years. Right. And they also, you know, probably what they should do is public private and get it done, because that's where it's going to get done. It's not going to be done through any county, regional, city. But if they get private, like the 470, they'll do it because it's money. Yeah, that's really a good success story. We probably don't appreciate it and realize that it is public private and it works. Well, again, like I said, that congestion on 287 is really a big concern. So anyway, that was what some of that. And if I hear further more information, I'll let you know. The only other thing I had is El Cobite. If we know seniors that are interested in ESL classes, that they're going to be offering them at El Cobite. And of course, the other thing they're really working with, especially now with a new president is helping with citizenship or people that need help. So if you know of anyone that's, you know, senior and well, I mean, they're helping everybody, especially us at the senior center. If we know people that are not citizens that are interested in looking into it, that we refer them to. And that was really about all that was discussed that pertains to senior. Janine, we're back to you. The Long Mung Economic Development Partnership for its board members meets quarterly, so we had a quarterly meeting. It was the first one that I had been to for quite a while. And as I said, they have been going through rather significant transition. The bottom line was that many of our local businesses have suffered drastically through the COVID-19 period, and they are looking to do as much as they can do to support local business. They developed a program. I don't know if any of you received the little gift certificate card that you take to participating local businesses and you get $10 off and they get reimbursed by the city. But it's basically looking at programs to support local business. We have lost a major business with Novartis leaving. And that will be 400 jobs lost in Long Mung, so that is major concern. So all things that we can do to support our local businesses and support Long Mung development, we should be looking at very seriously. Because there's been such restructuring, there was a rather heated conversation between current administration and the advisory board about some disorganization. I think it's just going to take a little time for things to settle out and the board has been restructured. They have advisory people within the community that are business owners and they don't feel that they've been, that the coordination has been there. And I can certainly understand that when I look at how much they've been dealing with over the last year and all the restructuring of personnel that they've done. You heard the other issue in terms of development, housing development, and that is a hot topic for me. I live in a community I live within two blocks of massive development that's happened over the last five years. And trust me, we have seen nine apartments go up to subdivisions and now 83 paired housing development, all within two blocks of our neighborhood, which has caused incredible infrastructure problems, and no construction has been paid to that. So whereas I respectfully disagree with our city council members about we need to build more and more and more. We also need to pay attention to infrastructure. That's a personal opinion, and I admit on construction fatigue. But if anyone has any input and would like to share that with me, I will continue along the lines of trying to build, you know, within reason in our community, or we will in fact, end up like other communities close to us. Building at all costs is not necessarily the answer. So, as I said, that's personal, I disagree with our current council, but that's just the reality. So please feel free to share with me if you have any, any thoughts or issues along that line I would never represent our board with my personal opinion. But that was a big part of the discussion. So, yeah, I live in Southwest Longmont. I'm also fatigued by all the building. It's, it's, it's, you know, I'm not no build, but there are limits to what we can tolerate when building is done and then they decide well what are we going to do about traffic and parking and I, it's, it's, it's unfathomable. What my community has gone through in the last five years unfathomable. So, burdens. Um, Jeanine, I have a question. Was there any discussion about, you know, Novartis has a huge campus. Yes. Was there any discussion? I mean, because you're talking about housing, so I could see that being plowed down for housing actually. So, um, No, apartments, apartments, we're not building houses anymore. We're all apartments and duplexes and commune, you know, community condos and Right, all that kind of stuff. So I wondered if they had any discussion about who they would like to attract. What they mentioned is that they had, they had at least four companies that were interested or expressing some interest, I think for that complex. Certainly. I mean, it's huge and it's massive. Unfortunately, it was built for a specific reason. Right. And yet just moved any company in there. But they do have four potential businesses that are looking at expanding. You know, the smuckers people are going to, even though it's well county, as is Costco, well county, those are still jobs for our community. Oh, yeah. And so they, they're looking, they certainly at this point, I don't think the plan is to, you know, knock it down and build subdivisions. I think they are looking to recruit businesses to move into Longmont, which, you know, it's, it's all growth push, but there has to be a balance. Right. Balance. And in my opinion. So that's kind of what they're looking at. I don't, they weren't specific about what companies were interested. But it would have to be somebody that did some type of research or because it's much more of a research facility. I don't know if they ever get in there or not, but much more of a research facility than anything else. Yeah, because they, you know, only one drug was produced there the $3.8 million drug, which was used for rare and often disease. So I can see. I mean, they didn't produce anything else, except this one drug. And, and so, you know, I never really understood why they bought that property at all. I'm trying to think back about, maybe you can help me, Michelle, about what the company was that was there before AstraZeneca, Novartis. It was. Amgen. Amgen. Right. Amgen. And they're the ones that originally built. Right. Went back to Boston. So I'm not sure, you know, I always think I'd love for them to make solar panels or conversion to something that potentially is going to have positive impact on our environment. But I guess we'll just see, we'll have to see. Yeah, I go along with the solar panels and a new recreation center with a 50 meter pool. I didn't, I didn't, one of the, I had a skin concern on Northeast Longmont with the, with the apartments and the senior units. I mean, some of these seniors going across the street with their walkers, etc. I just hope that these people that are moving into those apartments are aware that safety is a real big issue. And I'm hoping that another thing that's being considered is that when they have these apartment complexes, etc. that they have sufficient off street parking. Because not, and we've got the issue of them parking on the street as well as there and that also provides creates a safety concern there too. So I wanted to bring that. Thank you. Thank you. I think Marcia and I had that discussion last, last time about parking and they always think that there's plenty of parking available, but that's not necessarily the case. Or that at least for senior housing, none of us are going to be driving anyway. And I hope it'll get to the point where they think they can start parking in the senior center because there are a few parking spots there that are available. Hey, our goal is to fill them up. So two, two things with the transportation efforts, one of the things we have brought up a couple of different times is on the North Main Street transportation corridor is the number of older adults and people in general who cross Main Street. It is, it's very scary and so I know that looking like north of 17th and looking at that traffic pedestrian traffic pattern across Main Street is on the radar. I don't know what they can do about it, but it's on the radar. And the second thing is, I have been coming and going from Spring Creek and Fall River apartments which are up there in the northeast corner. And I regularly, in a recent situation I took pictures of an intersection that I felt very strongly needed a stop sign, sent the pictures to my colleague at the city and said as soon as this apartment complex is complete and filled this three it's a three way intersection with only one has a stop sign. So you don't know who I mean the right away is very wonky. And so, Tyler said he would go out and take a look at it he agreed with me thought it needed a stop sign. And I think that's another piece to the development issue. As you add more people you have to look at those car and pedestrian traffic patterns up there, and be be on top of it and ready to say this didn't work. We might have thought it was going to work, but it, but it's not working. Certainly in that area because you know that's my hood. Michelle, nothing, nothing was looked at in terms of infrastructure and and roads and how are you going to deal with all these people, nothing. And that's always looked at after. You're right, we have two large senior complexes in amongst all this new building and no absolutely no attention has been paid to safety, not only that but safety and construction, given that roads are frequently closed they're dug up there's gravel trucks there's all kinds of safety issues, not just for our older adults but for the young people, the young children in neighborhoods so it's it's not just all about growth. Well I also called about coming out of Aspen Meadows senior apartments, right, because there was a block it was, it was a blocked view you couldn't see and they didn't have any no parking for 20 or 30 feet or whatever they do and. Yeah, I do think the traffic and pedestrian and car changes things, and we need to try to stay ahead of it as much as we can be engaged. And one thing I wanted to say is you brought up a part of businesses and how they're struggling or have struggled and you know it's kind of interesting that, and there's not that we can do about it, but businesses are now open at 100% most restaurants anyway, but the situation is you still have the six foot distancing. So the situation is it really doesn't help if you don't have a larger building. If you were at capacity, you know, you can't add any more tables. I mean, like I said, it's beyond our control but that's something that people need to be aware of also hopefully that will change if this goal of 70 what 70% of the people get vaccinated by July 4. The best thing we can do for everyone is to get people vaccinated and I just, I don't know how that's going to go. But, but I guess we'll see. Well, that that's all that I have about long mod economic development sustainability meeting is on Friday, we always end up being either the day before two days after this meeting so I have not even gotten my update and agenda for that meeting yet, but at any point, I'll let you know. Thank you Janine. Any other questions, thoughts or emotion to adjourn. I don't want any anybody to go away I've had so much fun today. I'd like to make a motion to adjourn. Thank you everybody.