 scenario right like right we've talked about that before it's especially if you're if you're not loving being on a plane It's some escapism where you could feel like you're in a completely different place Yeah, it didn't work out I only got halfway through the movie because the headset was so hot and so heavy on my head that I just was like I can't do this but it was cool My problem is go is that you had to have an internet connection in order to play the Facebook rentals. Oh Oh, so I had you know, God rented some movies in advance of a plane wanting to try out the same thing And then I couldn't watch them because they're like You had to you had to get authorization That's that's not good Real quick before we start. I watched Roma last night Whoa, yeah, I was gonna say that's not a real quick. That's a lot to process Well, real quick for our purposes because we were talking about it. I guess yesterday or maybe it was Friday. Um, but uh, whoa Yeah, we watched it Saturday night made me. Yes. We talked about yesterday. Um, yeah, I I I was um Perhaps ill-prepared for it's intense the intensity of the movie, but I liked it. I Liked it a lot. Sarah. Could you read line three today and don't get tripped up. It's got different words in it Does it? Yeah Okay. All right, let's do it Is everybody ready? Yeah ready You a story least oh Yes There we go then I am also least oh in five four three two one Kathy Greenwood has supported independent tech news directly for almost five years. Thanks Kathy Be like Kathy become a dts member at patreon.com slash dts This is the daily tech news for monday december 17th 2018 in los angeles i'm tom merit and from studio feline I'm sarah lane And i'm the show's producer roger chain joining us today rich demuro tech reporter for ktla tv channel five In los angeles and author of 101 handy tech tips for the iphone rich congratulations on uh the book coming to print Oh, thank you so much tom. Thanks for having me on the show and uh very excited about the book just in time for the holidays Just in time. Uh rich is going to share a few of those tips for us a little later in the show if you're curious Let's start with a few tech things you should know Facebook announced new camera features for messenger including native support for looping boomerang videos Automatic background blur for selfies and the ability to use stickers as a are objects The five camera modes on messenger are now normal video text boomerang and selfie 34 year old colin krull co-founder and ceo of hq trivia He was also co-founder of vine was found dead in his apartment sunday morning The new york police department says the investigation is ongoing although the police department has said That the death is allegedly a drug overdose Kroll had moved from cto to ceo of hq trivia just three months ago Fitbit updated its ionic and versa watches with fitbit os 3.0 with third party app support and allowing users to log Things like water intake sleep and weight from the watch itself rather than just the mobile app as it had been before New apps of note couch to 5k. It's a training program that coaches Uh beginning runners towards completing a long distance race. Maybe you want to do your first 5k And at you health which measures a body for temperature spikes that might need attention Other partner apps will arrive next year including trx gold's gym That one is Actually very interesting to me because I go to gold's and mind body fitbit's charge 3 does not get these updates. However And lenovo announced updates to its think pad l series laptops They now have intel's eighth generation chips inside the l3 90 is 18.8 millimeters thick weighs 3.2 pounds The yoga l3 90 the one with the flexible hinge same thickness but weighs a little bit more 3.44 pounds Both come with 13 inch displays fingerprint sensors and 32 gigabytes of ddr4 ram The yoga l3 90 starts at 899 dollars that gets you an active pen stylus bundled in and the l3 90 is cheaper No pen 659 dollars both going on sale this month. All right, let's talk a little bit about intel selling off another piece of its technology Indeed it is canada's north which is the company behind the focals ar glasses has acquired intel's augmented reality technology profile Which includes the tech behind intel's vaunt glasses Focals and vaunt both use a laser embedded in the stem of the glasses to affect images directly onto the retina Now focal says it's about to start shipping But it hasn't announced a firm date. We have not gotten a date as of yet Focals are meant to you to allow a user to see and respond to texts get turned by turn directions Check the weather your question uber talk to amazon voice services and more North has stores in brooklyn and toronto where customers can pre-order the glasses for 999 dollars So they get some defensive patents. They say they're not going to use it to go after people But it'll help them you know defend against any comers with their future glasses They also get a little bit of the refinements that intel had made to the to the same approach Intel was a big investor in focals and What intel had been looking for with their vaunt glasses Were a partner to take the technology and make a product out of it, which I guess they sort of found By doing this rich, have you been covering the augmented reality space much lately? um Yeah, I mean, it's it's interesting because it's for the average person This stuff is really kind of out there. You know what I mean? It's it's and myself included I mean, I love the idea of google glass when they came out But it just was one of those things that I kind of held back on because It's just not there and you can't these you know If it's bulky if it doesn't work just right And I don't know I saw this thing when this these north These focals first kind of like we're announced they had that big video and stuff on youtube And it looks cool, but I can tell already the first gen glasses are just not going to be what I want to have on my head um And so I don't know. I just I feel like these things will be Something eventually But we are not there and I don't think we're close just yet Yeah, I mean these are these look a lot better than google glass did uh, but they're also About the same functionality like they you know, they're essentially notification Viewers for your phone at this point. Well, yeah, I mean you you're you're sort of like texting Directions weather checking calling an uber or something of that nature For a thousand dollars That's a tough sell for me You know my phone was a thousand dollars and it's new and I can do all that stuff that way Plus a lot more and I mean we're in this world right now where people are trying to be on gadgets less So I mean this whole digital wellness well-being thing. So I mean where do you draw the line? So now am I going to have a pair of glasses plus the apple watch plus my phone plus a google home hub Plus a tablet plus a laptop That's kind of a lot even for me and I get it like there will be some amazing implications and applications of glasses like this But right now we're it's a little bit much for the average person. That's just kind of dealing with Do I get an apple watch? Do I get you know, like I have so many things already Do I really need one thing that's that's in my face all the time? It'll cut down on your screen time because it'll all be in your face instead of on your phone The intercept reports that its sources say google has shut down a project called 265.com at the website 265.com, which is still live last I checked google had been collecting data On chinese web searches now google just captured the search terms By chinese users at 265.com the website just redirected you to bydu.com So google wasn't operating a search engine and it wasn't Terribly productive to use 265.com But people on the web will use almost anything if it's out there and it had a little portal aspect to it and whatnot The idea was to let google understand what kinds of things chinese users searched for in general Google has shut that down because of the pressure on it not to bring a search engine to china However, google has not shut down all of its research into chinese web searches They're still looking at how a google search engine could work in china within chinese law But this was kind of the backbone in collecting the data for this project and not being able to collect this data anymore At least according to the intercept has somewhat hobbled the entire project I mean kind of funny right that 265.com was uh, you know a place where you could search for things But it was redirecting everyone to bydu. Were chinese users well aware of that fact? Yes, I mean, I don't know. Does it matter though? I was thinking through these same questions and I'm like people still use excite.com people still use lycos.com Yeah, and the top search is like google. Yeah, that's what it wasn't like the most popular search engine But it probably had enough people stumbling across it using it that it gave google some good data So why so they're shutting this down why just because of the pressure on the whole idea of them starting up anything in china Yeah, the the the pressure internally and and externally a lot of the employees of google are very unhappy at the idea of even considering A google search engine last week sundar pichai the ceo of google Tried to say what they're doing is researching the idea of it To see if anything could work because their mission is to Bring information to everyone and they're trying to see is there a way they could do that in china without Etc etc and go into the without part though And that's what people have people upset because they they feel like there's no way that google could operate in china without compromising its own principles Which which is probably true But I think it would be interesting for google to Kind of get ahead of this and maybe release some of the things that they found from this site You know like what what trends did they see? You know or maybe just some sliver of information that um I don't know it'd be kind of interesting because i'd be curious Is it is it like one of those like old excites or like one of these random websites that people go on and search You know kind of like the simplest things like yeah, you know music You know or are they getting some really interesting insights from this or do they get some and that's you know I don't know. I mean, but I the whole The whole thing about them starting something in china as a whole different conversations I'm sure you've had many times on this show or for anyway and probably will continue to It will it's also such a huge market. Uh google shutting down something like this is not google saying You know what we don't actually care about the data of the chinese populace world Just deal with you know other other Areas of the earth they will figure out how to do this in a better way Last week we reported on robin hood opening up a bit of a bank Well checking and savings accounts Yeah, exactly. It was it was it was it was going head to head with the b of a's and the wills fargo Last week that was the story. Well the insurer questioned whether it's new checking and savings accounts qualified for coverage Under the company securities investor protection corp or s i p c plan as robin hood claimed robin hood has since removed the web page about checking and saving And deleted tweets about the launch as well, which never really looks good for any company robin hood now refers the program as a cash management system And says it's working closely with regulators Uh if anyone working in in this sort of industry knows better, please please inform us Uh like Preston did last week. That was that was great. Uh, but from what I understand if you're Using a TD Ameritrade account for instance You will have a little bit of cash in there as you sell stocks And it's cash that you can use to buy stocks and that cash account Falls under the s i p c because it's not a regular banking account doesn't fall under the f d i c Robin hood was trying to run a checking and savings account and saying but it's really just a cash management account And I think s i p c called their bluff and said well, it's cash management account Yeah, I gotta call it a cash management account. You can't call it checking and savings. We don't care Yeah, because if you're using it on td, it's kind of like a side thing Like you're not making your money or it's not a day to day account that you're using for a lot of transactions So that does fall under that but if you're talking an account that the primary use is a checking and savings account Like I can understand like I'm kind of a layman when it comes to the the financial services But the reality is I kind of understand where they're coming from that this was not the Spirit of how those accounts were created sure they pay more interest because They're being used and invested and all that stuff But like that's not how we meant for those to be used But I got to give credit to robin hood for Trying something new putting pressure on banks and trying something different and you know paying people a decent return on it I mean the only reason I wouldn't give them credit is you if you're going to call it cash and checking You should have set it up as I'm sorry checking and savings You should have set it up as checking and savings under fd ic protection But they probably give you that sweet 3 interest rate if they done that So they probably should have done their homework a little bit better Yeah Splash data announced its yearly analysis of leaked passwords to create that font of joy The annual worst passwords list and returning at number one One two three four five six these these are passwords called from actual Breaches they they go and they they find Dumped password lists on the internet and then they look at what passwords people were using and they compile this list Uh password itself was was number two Um most of the rest of the top 10 were you know variations on one two three four five six seven You know one two three four five However, instead of poking fun at the people who use these passwords Let's join naked security naked security at saffos.com Said let's not point fingers at the users this year Let's point fingers at the websites that allow users to create accounts that use these kinds of passwords A lot of companies don't if you try to use password as your password It'll say that's not a strong enough password. You need to put something else in so the companies that are are the ones Who could end this password list? Tomorrow if they all just decided to say you know what if it's on the the worst An uppercase letter Use one two three four five six. Yeah And and some sort of a symbol, you know, it's funny. I I've actually been um Denied by and I you know doesn't matter who but there are a few um when I had to um Reset a password for whatever reason where it was like that password's too long We only accept passwords between this and this amount of characters and I was always like, huh Well, that's odd one would think the longer the better but um But but at least having a website say well, no no no hold on like we're we're actually paying attention to this This is you know rather than saying uh weak password medium password strong password Which is helpful I guess but I think a lot of people just ignore that being like no You cannot have something that's only numbers You can't have anything that's been you know, your password for the last Five passwords if you've been changing recently and all that sorts of other stuff It's it it is kind of on the websites at this point because there are just too many breaches and you can't Count on people to to care I wonder if it's ironic that the the websites that like you said tom the websites that kind of allow this to happen Um, they're the ones being breached. So clearly they just have bad security in general Because they're compiling these passwords off of all the breaches out there and there've been some high profile breaches, but um I personally like password number 20 on the list because it shows a little bit of Kind of like um determination Because it is if you look at it, it's all the shift one two three four five six seven eight So You know to me, I think it looks very like like a strong password, right? Like I would think that's a good one But explanation alpha sharp dollar sign percent. Yeah. Yeah, you're using special characters all over the place with that one. You're right Right, but sour this won't be rejected because it doesn't have any um letters or numbers in it So it would be rejected as a not safe password Well, they just do password all caps before it and then you got you have a long strong password Password all caps Don't tell me anybody's using that Well, you know, they're they're I think in in in a lot of users defense These are uh default passwords that often companies say here's here's the default password going and change it and then someone just doesn't So again, it kind of falls back on the company is totally bad. Yeah, but but as somebody who considers herself A pretty good internet detective. I will say Sometimes you can just guess a password pretty easy if you really want to and then Not do anything bad to that person. Just know that you're better than them Okay, moving on in gadgets chris if Filed the future interfaces group or fig lab at Carnegie Mellon University Which researches new ways to interact with technology One example is having a drill or a doorknob emit an electromagnetic signal to talk to a wearable and Identify objects the lab also uses lasers to read vibrations Ultrasound to detect things like coughing or typing and an accelerometer to identify actions like sawing wood for example The lab generates hundreds of ideas each year generates about 20 prototypes and then publishes research on from five to ten of them Two projects turn into startups and others have been licensed since fig started in 2014 I feel like this is the companion piece to last week's 50th anniversary of the mother of all Demonstrations because all the input devices he showed 50 years ago are the ones we have now Right uh keyboard mouse touchscreen was all there and now you have this Other end of the spectrum this group working 20 years in the future Saying well, what if we had something called uber acoustics? This is an actual project They're working on where machine learning just knows the different sounds things make and can tell exactly what's going on In a room based on the sounds so that just tapping You know on a projection could be an input or just swiping things could be an input It's fascinating to watch what they have going on there It makes that it makes a lot of sense. Um, it kind of reminded me of this device that uh What was it belkin they have like some sort of water device you put on your water pipe And basically they analyzed all the sounds that your water pipe makes and they can tell if something's leaking If it's like a toilet versus a faucet based on the acoustics of the leak So, I mean, it's I mean kind of similar to the what you're talking about very It's just amazing what you can figure out these days by acoustics. Yeah and algorithms Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Don't forget we have a show called daily tech headlines a separate show offered by the same team here at dailytech headlines Dot com keeps you up to date every day in a short amount of time All right, let's talk about iphone tips As I mentioned rich has a print version of his book 101 handy tech tips for the iphone out And rich, thank you for being willing to to share some of these as sort of a sampler With people what what's the first one you got for us? Uh, okay, let's talk about the first one, which is uh, let's see What do I have here set up screen time and app limits for your kids? So These are look the book is not like a manual for the iphone It's kind of like using all the questions and things I've gotten over the years of what people find interesting or fascinating And also the stuff that I just think they should know about right like this the safe the strong passwords That's like one of those like basic internet security things This book is kind of like my idea of what you should know about when it comes to your iphone And obviously it's geared at someone who is maybe a little bit less tech savvy Or someone who doesn't even have the time to go in and set all this stuff up So first off with this version of the book I went through ios 12 kind of like all the new features And went through what you need to know so set up screen time and app limits your kids I actually did this myself when I was writing the book I've got two kids and it's pretty amazing what apple has built So obviously you have screen time for yourself and you can see kind of like how often you're using your phone When you're picking up all that stuff is like not that interesting to me Right like I don't really care that i'm using instagram for an hour a day But what is interesting is that you can go into your family settings And uh your family sharing and literally limit the time your kids have on their ipads and by apps And all those kind of things so I thought that was great And the best part uh tom and sarah is that when I uh set this up for my kids number one My kid immediately noticed something was different He was like why am I getting timed now when I use my stuff? And then he's noticed that everything kind of stopped working after a certain amount of time But this is the best part kids are so smart and resilient My kid will no longer watch netflix on his ipad You will watch it on the tv because he knows that's not metered There's always a workaround and kids are usually better at finding it than the rest of it Kind of a smart smart one um autofill passwords this kind of goes into what you were talking about uh earlier And uh, this is tip number 12 in the book and I don't know if you've turned this feature on but it's fantastic Now with ios 12 kind of like an android feature you can actually have your phone Autofill your passwords not only with apple's built-in password manager Which is pretty decent um, but also you can use you know last pass or dash lane or One password and it will actually fill those in for you as you go along So a lot of people use these terrible passwords because it's so much work right to come up with new passwords The apple one that's built in is not bad at all if you only use apple products, right? So if you're not switching between various computers and you know If everything you have is a mac or an apple product, you'll probably be okay with their built-in one And I went to like a web page like you go to walmart.com. You say sign up immediately It just pops in a really nice password Um, and you pop in your email address and it saves it and next time you go to that website It will do that again. These are things that you and I understand but My parents and a lot of folks out there that literally just keep changing passwords to variations Not a smart thing to do just take the five minutes to set that up Now the next one you have here is one that I think Applies to all of us. Yeah, you know these first two may be things that you want to tell your friends and family Maybe you want to buy in the book as a present, uh, perhaps but but this one I don't know a lot of people know This is a great one. In fact tip number 27 create a medical id for emergencies My wife texted me when she read the book and she's like, oh my gosh. This is amazing I just set up the medical id and it's like to me. That's really Nice to hear that you know to like someone that's so close to me that literally hears me talk about this stuff all the time For her to just sit here and get up to that tip and be like, oh my gosh I got to do this right now on my phone So you go into the health app and this is a nice little feature on the iphone You go into the health app and you basically set up all of your emergency contact information So you can put in your allergies you can put in, you know Some phone numbers of folks that people will be able to dial kind of like your emergency You know in case of emergency contact remember those ice You can set those up so that someone doesn't need a passcode to dial those phone numbers from your lock screen So that's really nice You can put in your blood type all this different information and it's interesting because people might say oh look rich come on If you're sitting there on the side of the road, uh half dead It is a first responder really going to go to your iphone and call your emergency contact probably not But I was reading some forms online and I learned that some of these first responders say they might not use it But once you're in the hospital once you're stabilized they may rely on that to kind of if you're in a situation Where by yourself they might use that to find you so it's one of these things just have it set up. Why not right? Yeah, and and having your information in in multiple places When they need to know your blood type fast, uh might might be advantageous I mean they can type your blood but it takes longer And allergies. I mean that's a big one too. You know if you have you know someone with allergies That's that could be a life changing thing. So Uh, let's see. I use I use my phone as a magnifying glass But i'm not sure i'm doing it right because you have a tip on this This uh, this is one of my all-time most popular tips I ever shared on tv and this is actually the inspiration for the book because I couldn't believe something could be this powerful That was such a no-brainer. Um in the accessibility settings on your iphone There's a thing called magnifier and once you turn it on you can then tap the side button on your phone three times Fast or if you have a phone with a home button three times fast and immediately your screen turns into this giant Magnification glass and you can use it to read menus. You can zoom in and out There's like a little slider at the bottom where you can zoom in and i'm not kidding When I shared this tip for the next six months when I was going around town I would have more people come up to me and say rich your tip on the magnifying glass was unbelievable I've been working at kta for seven years This was the thing that it just I couldn't believe it. I was like really And so that's in the book that was kind of the inspiration and that's uh, a fun thing Especially for menus I saw my father-in-law looking at the menus used to keep a little magnifying glass And it's like a pocket one in his wallet and no more So you don't have to just use the camera and zoom in you could you could actually have a real Real magnifying situation going on. Yes, this actually adds some extra Accessibility features so you can actually change the color of the text So some people have you know visual impairments for like, you know, if they can't see blue very well Or they can't see you know high they need high contrast text This will do all of that inside that little magnifier. It's more than just a zoom on the camera. Exactly Now, let's finish up with this this very last one You have in in our rundown here about tabs because I know tab management is a huge one for people This was the second most popular tip. I've ever shared on tv and I could not believe it So um, the state of tv nowadays sometimes I'll do things on facebook and then if it bubbles up really popular I'll present it on tv This was one of those examples where I was just like, oh, let me show people how to close out the tabs on their safari right on their iphone. So if you go into safari and um, you just click those two little Squares in the lower right hand corner that are kind of overlapping and just press and hold on them for a second To kind of 3d touch or force touches you used to be called And next thing you know the top little menu will say close all and the number of tabs you have open And I was getting emails From people with so many notifications telling me how many tabs they had open Unknowingly on their phone for like three months. It's like I had 197 I was actually at one point keeping track of how many people how many tabs had the highest, you know So I am like you said tom. I am like a tab. Um, I really like to keep tabs on my tabs You know what I mean? Like I like to close mine out So This is a fun one for me. Yeah, I think a lot of us like to keep tabs in our tabs Tab management has consistently throughout my entire career doing anything related to tech been one of the things people really enjoy hearing tips about for some reason I don't know why I mean, I I think it's very satisfying to close out all those tabs at once Um, and people, you know, so it's stuff like this in the book It's just it's little tips and tricks like things that are kind of The iphone does a lot of stuff that doesn't meet the eye and if you're sitting there Kind of just using it on a daily basis to social media and to text message and to make phone calls and to take pictures There's just so many little things like if you take like a little bit further look or if you swipe in a different way Or if you tap a little bit harder, um It really brings out like all these cool new features that are just sitting there kind of dormant in your phone And I just thought it was fun to research the book because I knew a lot of these But obviously I had to come up with 101 of them. Um, and to kind of just execute. I mean, it was just really fun to write this Well, thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit. You can submit stories. Perhaps they are iphone tips Perhaps there's something else vote on others at daily tech news show reddit.com It's how we kind of keep tabs on what you like and want to hear more about We're also on facebook facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show All right, let's move on to our thing of the day. Chris christensen The amateur traveler is back sharing his experience using t-mobile international romain and google fi one overseas This is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute I was just in japan with my family and my daughter and her husband were using google fi while i was using the t-mobile international service So I had a chance to compare them both are great services because they'll give you international roaming in over 100 countries So that when you get wheels down on the tarmac, you can turn on your phone and check your email, which is terrific The t-mobile service is unlimited use both domestically and internationally But when you are roaming you get slower speeds more like 3g speeds So good for email but not for downloading podcasts The google fi on the other hand charges you the same rates when you're traveling as it does at home Which is 10 per gigabit but gives you whatever speeds are available in that country As far as cost goes it seems that about 5 megabits per second is the break even point If you use more than that t-mobile is cheaper for you less than that google fi would be cheaper i'm chris christensen from amateur traveler Thank you chris christensen and thanks also to rich demiro for being with us Today it's been a while. I don't think you and I have been on this show together But um, but real nice to have you great tips and let folks know where they can keep up with your work Sure. Uh, thank you by the way, uh rich on tech dot tv is my website The book is on amazon 101 handy tech tips for the iphone and of course i'm on social media Either rich demiro or rich on tech one of these days. I will get them all aligned Excellent, uh, go check it out and rich on tech dot tv slash book press. Does that get you right to the book? Uh rich on tech dot tv slash book slash book. Thank you. Uh, go check it out folks rich on tech tech dot tv slash Book, uh, don't forget that there are lots of cool reasons to become a member of daily tech news show at patreon.com Slash dts one of which is you could be the person who pushes us over the goal line For our monthly goal of having one more patron than last month Right now we are four just four shy of that goal So four of you became members today. 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So yeah, I apologize Rich for cutting cutting your video off before the audio is still recording. So anyone who gets just a straight audio podcast or Good day internet Of people yeah No worries The video is just I hit the wrong stop. I was trying to get I was trying to get I was trying to get chris's face off the screen. They hit the wrong stop You guys are producing a lot with uh, you know All this equipment. So it's understandable. Believe me. It's a it's a lot of moving parts of this show Yeah, and it's not the first time it's happened except it's the first time rogers done it. That's all You know, sorry members of the staff who aren't sarah have also done the exact same thing before And and rest assured Um, if and when this becomes my job, I will do it too I'll mess up to you guys It's gotta happen. Yeah, no, I've totally done it. I know that doesn't make you feel any better about it, but yeah Well, um, I I mean The other day I recorded a podcast me and anna co-host We'll just leave the details out of it And um, I've done this a million times with the same equipment Like well, okay, not a million times, but definitely a hundred sure And you know set up everything press record. Yeah. Yeah, we're good. We're good. I know what I'm doing and afterwards I realized Well, I only actually had one mic that was hot Well, the other audio was recorded, but in a in a way where I'm like Oh, this is a big edit for me now instead of it just being you know, real nice, you know, the game's all right Now it's like every time the other person talks I gotta And again, it's like why did that happen? I don't know it should be Something that I don't even have to think about at this point, but I managed to mess it up I have a I feel like that's pretty typical. I feel like this happened. I I did a podcast with brian tong the other day and he recorded his Macbook You know native mic versus his mic. Oh, yeah, I've done that one. Yeah, this was all you know It's like it's like his was all echoey and like what do you do? Like you're not gonna have a conversation for a half an hour again You know what I mean? It's like you just got to go with it. Yeah I I actually had something like that happen where the other person My audio was coming back in in their speakers and it was the same thing where it's like I kind of matched it up an edit But there was an echo that could not be totally taken away and it's like Well, yeah, like when do we all get together again? kind of just have to go with it So can we should we call it keeping tabs on your tabs? Yeah, like it That'll be the name of the show then. Thank you tabs on your tabs electric boogaloo What is the electric boogaloo? It's a movie our sequel break in break into electric boogaloo That's where the term comes from. That's where the meme comes from. Yes Have you see? I know I know breaking news But they made a sequel I just didn't realize that that was where that was first coined electric boogaloo They uh Not to be confused with electric avenue That's we're gonna rock down to that one. That's right. Yeah, I know even I know that one I Used to live in Venice and every time I passed it. I was like, great now for the next hour. I'm singing that song What if you ever what if you had your AirPods in with the song while you walked Then it's an inception and then you disappear immediately That's the rule It's uh You know, I have always so rich. Let me I have a totally non related question Sure So it's your office. Do people just ever hit you up whenever they have like an it problem But they can't grab an it person. Oh my god, like every second of the day And now actually the interesting thing about writing a book is now everyone just comes up to me and asks for a copy of it Which is really funny Like i'm literally holding a copy in the hallway and someone just like walks by he's like Do you have any extra copies of that and i'm like What do I say, you know Bookstore Yes, uh, they're all I I was actually uh, the next like hosting gig I do like the next like live event. I'll be like, um Oh, I forgot. It was like I was thinking about this joke the other night It's like, uh, I'm gonna show you how to get a copy of my book. Just go to amazon.com and type in I forget what the joke was but there's a joke there. You know what I mean Usually here's a here's a tip for getting my book go to rich on tech.tv book Click on the link Put in your favorite information. Yes I mean, it's funny because you know, he's like I I had a friend that wrote a book and I Wondered why he didn't just give everyone a copy and I realized like it actually kind of cost money to do that So, um Speaking of which, tom, did you get my copy? I sent you did you get it yet? I haven't got it yet because I haven't been to the PO box. Okay, right. So but it's there. Okay. That's funny because I I always have everyone send stuff to my PO box And I'll have companies be like, did you get my thing? And I'm like Because they you know, they're waiting with like baited breath for you to like try out their new gadget, right? And for me, it's just like one more box. I kind of slept into my car Yeah, so you understand like I I understand I went there Thursday and then I got the notification that your book had arrived on friday. So it was like, yeah I know it's like I can't go back. I know that's I got mine like literally right next to my house now. So I don't have to like ever slept across town ever It used to be way across town Mine was really close to my old house, but it had it hasn't moved but I have so yeah It happens. Um, but yes, roger They uh, they will ask me questions like that But uh, if it's anything like super like most of it's like consumer tech But if it's like, how do I fix this on my computer? I usually don't get those questions Which is kind of funny because I overhear a lot of people having problems I'm like, I could easily fix that in like two seconds and I don't go over there Don't offer because what you do they never let go. Yeah If it's a dire situation, but no, I I generally stay out of it Well, and there's always that thing where you think like I'll be like, I think I know how to help them But if I go over there, then they're going to ask me a lot of questions And maybe it isn't the right answer and then I'm on the hook if it's not for repairing it Yes, it's like if there's a Valid path for them to get the answer. I will generally just let them take that path Yeah, and then if you don't know how to do it, you have to I mean It's it's it's a whole can of worms you open that I don't want to be involved in but yes, I will What's that? It's like it's like a relationship that you're When you try like I like the easy questions like which wi-fi which mesh wi-fi networking system do I get? I'm like, oh, it's easy. I can answer that all day Here's here's a uh, here's here's the file of the video I did on that. Here you go Oh, I thought you were giving me that right now. No, no, I'm saying that would that would be your answer Yeah, look on the website ktla.com slash my video Slash mesh wi-fi Uh, cool. Do you guys need to me to do anything else? You need me to No, no, we're all good. Thanks, man Apologize again for uh, truncating your appearance No, we're I mean the audio is there. I mean, right? Isn't that still here? I mean, that's that's the primary delivery method. I would imagine sound great Okay, good Yes, uh, the the majority of the audience is on audio audio is fine. I'm publishing it right now and The people on video, uh, even if we just put up what we have would get the majority of the video Um, it just wouldn't get the the t's at the end. So roger and I can figure out how to add that without video Just so at least they get the full show Okay, cool At least they get the the website The one that you gave out was like Well, that was what was in our our I know and I apologize for making that public but I should no it's fine I mean, it's not like um, it's just I should probably be clearer when I send it out that it's kind of like the you know Oh, the press Yeah, it's like a you know Like google always does that they set up like this whole elaborate website for like journalists And it's like please don't share this with the public. It's like apologies apologies. It doesn't matter I mean if it's just a press release, you know and like some headshots and stuff It's not like it'd be great if there was like a coupon for like a free book in there Oh I'll change it right now. Yeah change it in the rundown, of course. Um, so it's just Yeah It doesn't I mean look if people want to go there. It's not it's not the end of the world. Believe me. It's not uh It's just not as pretty. It's more behind the scenes. You know what I mean? It's not optimized for your consumption Uh, pleasure No, this is this is like if you were going to craft a blog post you might come here, you know and like get some Now how long has rich been there? Okay. Let me choose a picture of him to put on this thing. I'd probably spell rich Is it rich on tech.com which he's wanted for 20 years Somebody's got that, huh? Oh, it's like the rich on corp in china Oh, really? Yeah And every year every year I literally sit on the day before to get the Um web thing and every single year they renew it on the last possible day And I'm like you got it automated on their end or something Well, but they only renew it for one year at a time. So it's every single year. They renew it for one year I'm like, what why do you do one year renewals? Yeah, I guess maybe they're all renewal. I guess, you know what? Maybe I'm thinking my hosting versus my Yeah, I think I don't know if I can do domains. It depends on the domain. You're right I don't think most domains do more than a year at a time. Yeah Okay, so maybe I'm totally confusing things and that's why every year I've been sitting there like, okay I think it's going to be the year they forget about it But you never know if you don't do it when you're that would be the year that you could have got it And then my arch rival will get it my arch nemesis Spoken Brian Tong no, yeah Brian on tech dot tv. I'm like, damn it Good Brian He's doing a good little job with his uh Yeah, it's pretty fun to to watch him take it off like that. It's pretty cool Yeah, do you have you been on this podcast or do you have it? We we we chatted at patreon So we're gonna yeah, I missed you there by the way. I went to that. Oh, you did. Oh, yeah I didn't see you there. I was there like super early in the morning and only for like, you know an hour or so But it was pretty cool. Yeah, it was fun Sarah was there That was I mean, yeah That was great. Very inspiring. Yeah real real good show they put together I'm surprised that I guess it would be in la because it's like a lot of the Artists are kind of there versus San Francisco. I guess. Yeah, there's a lot of more creators down here Yeah, that's why youtube set up their youtube space down here same thing Makes sense Cool. All right. All right, man Thank you. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks, rich. Good to see you Yeah, you too. And uh, thank you. All right. I will see you all soon Talk to you soon. Tom, I want to hang out now that you're like literally down the street. Yeah, I'll shoot you an email We'll figure out. All right. Bye. Bye. Bye