 Corruption in Nigeria is a constant phenomenon and with the forthcoming elections approaching what is the relationship between the political economy of corruption and the elections. Stay with us to find out. The current Naira scarcity occasion by the currency swap policy of the central bank of Nigeria has affected a lot in various aspects of Nigerians and live in the biggest city economy. We wonder about its effect on the health of citizens. We'll talk about this on our second conversation. And we also have a look at the headlines on some of today's national dailies. Welcome back, it's still the breakfast in Place TV Africa. My name is Kofi Bartel. It's a beautiful Monday. I'm glad you're there and watching along with us. Well, I am messy, but when we're reaching your live right here from our studios in Victoria Island, Lagos, we hope you had a great weekend as we did. Kofi, I guess you had a great weekend. Yes, indeed. The weekend was fantastic. You know, we had a telethon yesterday here on Place TV Africa. It was never before in the history of television broadcasting. Is the second? Have I seen in Nigeria? No, it's part of the first one. So I'm just saying is the second? Well, so Place TV Africa is the place to be. I mean, we have it locked out as far as elections 2023 is concerned and where your election is television station. All right, so please keep it locked here for everything 2023 elections. I don't think you should touch that out. Merci, how was your weekend? Great. All right. Rest well. You didn't go to the cinema? You seem to somehow find the way to go, find places to go to whilst just at home on weekends. No, I mean, very restful for me. I had a lot of time resting. You had a lot of time resting. So usually, if I look, it's like clocking in. So I would say whenever I clock in on Friday, I don't get out till, you know, Monday. Merci is being charged with the truth. Merci has a way of finding some fun spots. No, so apparently if I clock in on Friday, I just chill till most times. Then I have to go to church, but I didn't go to church yesterday. All right, all right. Well, we'll repent for the kingdom of God. Let's start with the first training starting tonight. This morning, of course, we will always start with a top training segment. So we take conversations on social media and what generally is got people talking, chit chatting and bring it on here. I think people may admit a tired of V-square versus Sheyam Kuti, you know. So let's look at this as heart-wrenching. And of course, the unfortunate death of a 12-year-old student of Christland High School. Yes, indeed, that school is in the news again. And I'm not going to say blah, blah, blah, Christland again, like you say, in this part of the world. But Whitney Adiniro is a deceased young girl, 12-year-old, really sad. I mean, for anyone to lose a child at this age, you know, really sad indeed. She said to a pastor during the school's inter-house sports event on Thursday. Indeed, the deceased parents have accused the school management of negligence. And the father, Michael Adiniro, and his wife, simply identified as Mrs. Adiniro took to social media at the weekend to seek public intervention to unravel the circumstances that may have led to the demise of the sudden death of their daughter while she was taking part in the sporting activity or events of the school. They said the event was held at the Agege stadium in Lagos and that the student who was healthy, Hale and Harte, you can see over the father, but that is not on that day. But she was said to be Hale and Harte before leaving home on the said day was reported dead by the management. But the school management has denied any wrongdoing, saying its officials took appropriate steps to save the deceased when she slumped at the stadium. That is video on social media shared by Mrs. Adiniro, who narrated how her daughter prepared for the event on the day. And she claimed that the school took the deceased to an immunization center instead of a hospital. According to her, from the time her daughter, 12-year-old girl, fell to the moment she was pronounced dead. It was about a spot of 10 minutes, what the mother said. So the parents accused the school of negligence insisting the lack of an ambulance or first aid, or first aiders as well, a venue, you know, contributed to her passing on. It's a really sad one indeed. Of course, like I said, they have denied any, you know, culpability in all of this. Mercy. So I'm going to try not to be emotional. Feel free, feel free. No, I mean it's not about a feel for you. It's an emotional one. No, so I'm not sure you can contain me if I would begin to shed tears here right here on national television. But, you know, it's very unfortunate. It's what has happened. And like you have stated in the conversation, you talked about the same school as also in the news. But if you follow the story, vividly and all of the comments it's made from, you know, the father and the mother, like both parents, the school said at some point in their response that, you know, Whitney had stated that she wasn't buoyant in the statement. In the statement that was released, that she wasn't buoyant health-wise. So I'm even wondering why the word buoyant would be used in where you want to talk about the health issue. So she wasn't buoyant to be part of the spotting activity that was going to happen at a giga stadium, interhouse spot. And that was it. And that prior to this time, on the 20th of January, the school was, the parents were let her, you know, she wasn't feeling well. Whitney's father came to pick her from school, so it's possible that she had health issues. But I'm saying that if a child had health, I want you to think about it. If you all have a child and your child has health issues and your child is saying, oh, I don't feel too good. I have tummy ache and whatever it is I'm feeling feverish. I don't want to go to school. You know, because I understand how this works, right? Because I have a niece and I know how she can be every other time she would say to her parents, would you allow your child to go to school that day? Usually it's, you know, what's expected is that you call the school and tell them, my child can come to school today because she's not feeling too well. So the response from the school is that Whitney wasn't feeling well prior to this time. I mean, she had complained that she's not feeling well. There's some health concerns. And that's why she can't come. You know, she can't be part of the interhouse spot activity. But she showed up and it was also reported that the mom, you know, was also at the venue and when all of this happened, whatever happened, the parents also complained that they were not alerted until, you know, everything had happened. She was at the ground and everything happened. Well, let's leave it at that because it's suspected that the autopsy should be conducted to a certain what's responsible for the deaths of this young child, Whitney. And of course, when you find out, then you can tell what exactly it is. But however, speaking generally to the issue, I remember that schools usually set aside some parts of their premises for spotting facilities and recreational grounds for students to enable them, you know, develop physically and mentally. Kofi, I really don't know what your experience calling primary school, secondary school was like, but the one I attended and what I know over time is that first of all, even the ideology of having to transport children from, you know, the school premise to an external venue for an event has a lot of risk factor. An accident can happen and these things you don't have control of. You know, when an accident is going to happen, it's not like you're being sent a mail. There's no mail. There's no voice call. You don't have any notification from wherever that you're going to have an accident. Accident will happen and that's why it's called an accident. So I want you to begin to ponder. Like I said earlier on, I mean, if you have to be in school way back, what I know, I engage in activities, spotting activities in school. Oh, really? Yes, I did. And I played Kofi. You've been telling me. What did you play? Volleyball. Really? I used to play volleyball and I love volleyball. I think it's a simple sport. I should take you to a volleyball court one of these days. Yes. I haven't forgotten the skills. I haven't forgotten how it worked. I think it's the simplest sport ever. Yes. You can do this. No, you can do this. Your car is a fetching water. No, so you do this one? It's like a fetching water. No, like you do this one. You do this one. But anyway, anyway. So my point is, my point is I'm speaking generally to the issue. Yes, I'm speaking generally to the issue. We understand that there's a call, there's a need for us to have an autopsy to ascertain what could be responsible for the death of the 12-year-old, right? I'm not sure anyone wants to be in that position. Just imagine, put yourself in that shoes. You have a child who left your house very healthy and very okay. The school bus picked her up and then, you know, some time before the day ended, you got the report that you had lost your child. And you can't categorically, you know, get any concrete explanation to it. I'm just saying, think about it with all of the excuses that's been given. Well, my point here is, before this time, Kofi, schools used to have facilities. And the argument for, you know, privatization and the private sector is more efficient than, you know, the public sector. So private schools, public schools, and what have you. It is naturally. Like I said, recreational activities, you're going to have interhouse, but it was usually in the school space, whether my nursery school or the primary school. It was within school premises, right? So I want you to think about the danger of having to take children away from the school environment. And the fact that, you know, even at that, when you go to a gym, really, you are supposed to, because sometimes people get into spotting activities without understanding their medical condition and their state. And that's also not even an excuse. But we can't continue to be complacent. That's what I think it is. We have total disregard. However we look at it, whether it's out of ignorance or, you know, it's a deliberate thing, we do not have regard for the lives of people. And the schools, you know, it's like you have a child. You leave your house. Kids get to spend a lot of time in the school. That's another, you know, form where people are supposed to be responsible for these children. I can't say I have my kid allow my child in a school where you pay so much. I'm not sure you want to go through the fees. We're not saying anything here. We're just saying, look at all of this. We can't be careless. You can't even allow things to chance. We have to be, you know, I don't know. I don't know if it's out of the fact that we don't really care about how people fare or we're just careless about it. Or we're more concerned about how much we make. Because these days, whether you're rendering a service or you're selling a product, it doesn't really matter as long as you get the money. So the money is the motivation. And so you don't even care about whatever happens, you know, on the other side. But that's not humanistic. I'm not sure any religion supports this. Whether it's Christianity, whether it's Islam, Judaism, if I got that correctly, traditionalist, including the Havelist. I'm not sure the support, you know, this kind of attitude that we get to portray every other time. But we need to move away because we are out of time. Yeah, but before we go away, just a few words on this. You know, I think it's too early to say anything, definite, you know, I mean, I was coming to work this morning and I had a radio presenter asking, you know, the public, why are people still taking their children to Chris Lane School? Do you remember there was a controversy or an incident where some students, a particular young girl, had a sex tape, you know, released, a video online circulating and the same Chris Lane School was involved. You know, immediate reaction. You know, when the mother put out a video, just like the mother of this girl, unfortunately she's passed on, you know, she's not alive, it's a very sad story. But the mother put out a video, the first scale, that's the sex tape, we hope you remember that. She put out a video and of course the school was blamed for a lot of things and everything, you know, some teachers were arrested in that school, taken to the police station and all that, but as time went on, you know, the narrative, and celebrities came online, social media, to attack the school, seeing the kids had been abused and all that, but as time went on, it became clearer and clearer that, you know, it was more of the children getting themselves together on a trip to Dubai and having whatever they did and filming themselves, it wasn't the school who told them to go do that, you know, and maybe the school theorists too were not really aware of what these kids were doing, you know, so that's number one. Number two, people are confusing, during college where the late Sylvester Armonie was a student who died after he was taken away by his parents from that school, you know, but still it's almost the same situation we can compare in terms of the immediate reaction of the public to things like this. Our advice, you know, I mean, we're aware of all of those who were crying blue murder, you know, who were asking for the government to shut down during college as the facts of the matter have emerged, you know, the coroner's interests and the case going on. It seems that the public outcry, the public disdain for the school and people calling for the head of the school, you know, that's the school to be shut down, it's gone down a little bit considerably actually, that's because people have begun to see some facts and I think it's, we can take lessons from this or these incidents to learn how to wait, you know, learn how to allow authorities to the investigations and then if we see that something is going wrong or something is being hidden or someone has been protected because of their connections, then we can begin to talk. But for now, it's a bit early to start blaming the parents or blaming the school or blaming them. It's a bit too early. So we will mourn the girl, the mystery with the family and I think we just wait for the relevant authorities to carry out the investigations and let's see the outcome at the end of the day. Well, we move away from another one. It's not also very pleasant. It's that 39-year-old Nigerian, Ola Niye Nasiru, has been sentenced to over seven years in prison in the United States for his role in an international romance camp. We're talking about fraud here. So according to, you know, the report has stated that he opened 25 bank accounts to defraud elderly victims of 3.45, I beg your pardon, 3.4 million dollars. The United States prosecutor said that Ola Niye, who is a permanent legal resident of the United States, you have to get that. It's not like he's an illegal. I mean, he's very permanent as a resident. He opened about 25 bank accounts in his own name, a fake name, and a shell company, through which nearly 3.4 million dollars is fraudulently obtained, proceeds are transferred. Now, it was also disclosed that Ola Niye was alongside nine orders. I mean, alongside nine orders were indicted in a Chicago-based sting operation, Operation Gold Pish, that identified cyber crimes that targeted all the people, and they were sentenced to 88 months in prison, after which, of course, there was charge in 2019 with wire fraud and operations. However, there was also a report that, you know, he probably would have escaped to Canada and what have you. And now you have all of this. This is according to the reports from Fox 32 Chicago that was reported. Well, I don't think that this is the first time this is happening, but Kofi, what are your thoughts on this? Yeah, I think... Why are you smiling? There's not much to be said apart from the fact that, you know, we would just say, here we go again. You know, here we go again because we're still trying to understand what's going on with Hosh Popi. You know, Hosh Popi, who was an Instagram sensation, and I mean, everyone was... So this is another Hosh Popi. We're looking at 3.4 million US dollars. That's a lot of money. And then the fact that this man, or money, or Lani, was defrauding elderly people. You know, I don't know whether he was promising them love or whatever, you know. But it just goes to show that in other parts of the world you can't get away with this thing, you know. I mean, if or Lani was in Nigeria doing these things, okay, if it was in this country doing these things to these foreign elderly people, people who probably were losing their pension, their life savings, what they're going to rely on to survive. And you know, abroad, the family support system is not there. Nobody is ready to take care of you as an old person. You know, you went, you had your life, you've lived. Why should I? That's how the American young person thinks, American child, son, daughter. Why should I be taking care of you? You don't have to be a burden to me, okay? I left you home at 18. You kicked me out, say you're an adult, go and fend for yourself. I'm fending for myself. You need to take care of yourself. That's what it plays in with old people's home. So you're expected to have, you know, made your money and then had your life sorted out before you get to that age, okay? Some of them buy their coffins before they die and they pay for their grave and all that while they're old, you know. So if you see that, I mean, someone is defrauding elderly people, that's just so low, you know. That's just so low. But the thing about it is, will he have been arrested? Will he have been caught if he was in this country? Okay, or not? Number one, number two, if he had not been caught in America and he continued doing this crime, all right? Of defrauding elderly victims. He made so much money, three or four million dollars. And he one day decides, you know, I want to come back to Nigeria and contest an election to be the governor of, I don't know, maybe Cross River State. All right. I can actually know what he's going to question him. It's, oh, you were once investigated or there's some questions about, you come and contest as governor and then he'll win. All right, he'll win. And maybe after that, with his influence, he might say, okay, I want to be president. So Kofi, I mean, first of all, you actually didn't leave up to my expectation because I thought you were going to say, what if he comes in and then he says, oh, yeah, I was going to get married and what have you. No, yeah. So we have to thank the American authority. So I think he could end up being the president if you want to come to the country. No, but I think you took it a bit higher than, you know, my expectation and that's a plus, right? So I was thinking you're going to put it on the weekend and say, oh, it would just be that. But see, it's unfortunate. I, every time I say it's unfortunate, it's sadding. I really don't know what, you know, how this goes, but it's a reflection of how people think. I don't even also think that it should just be limited to a race because this crime actually goes across different parts of the world. Do you also know that Nigeria, there was a ranking some other time that's done between 2022 and 2023. However, an article was published in terms of, you know, those who are involved in countries that you can, you should be scared of and be aware of. And Nigeria didn't make number one. I mean, we didn't make number one for the first time because usually it was number one or number two. And if it's a positive light, it should be a plus. Imagine you have a child and then they're in school, you know, the confess top in their class. That's a plus. But Nigeria is number seven on the list of cameras. I'm not trying to say, I'm not trying to hold. Yellow plus is today. Wait, wait, wait. I'm not trying to hold brief, you know, for crime and criminality. What countries with the highest number of cameras, when I actually look at the article, Pakistan was number one, followed by Brazil and South Africa. And then you have Romania, Venezuela, India, Nigeria was number seven on that list. But yes, we have our case reported. And I'm not surprised because this is not the very first time we're hearing of Nigeria and being jailed in the United States for internet fraud or what they call that thing again, this is love scum, something like that, where you begin to promise the other person love and affection, romance and what have you. And then you get them to send your money or deferred them of properties and what have you. Very, very, it's criminally minded. It's not it. And for a crime where people would expect that there are a lot of opportunities, more stable society, pre-organized, then why would you be engaging in all of that? It's low, just like Kofi had said. If you look at the people, just as- A permanent resident for that matter. Yes. Now you see how these guys affect the fortunes of God forbid. Honest Nigerians. We have to ask, well, this thing after years, the fortunes of honest Nigerians, and not just Nigerians, mercy, even Ghanians as well. Because the Africanians also getting, I mean, this is West Africa, they just put everybody together. And you have other African countries, like you said, who have their citizens going through this. So how would this affect you? How would it affect me? Because every time you say you're Nigerian, you're being looked at and perceived as a criminal. People are just running away. And that's a hasty generalization, because there's been an experience and encounter from a certain Nigerian, and all that we're having, it's not good. So we plead- What can we do about this? I mean, it's just to say that that's not the way out. Like we always say, this morning on my way to work. As early as I was on my way to work, before, I mean, five o'clock, around before six o'clock, then you have people begging. People who have their hands, their legs, their eyes, everything. You have to give, you know. You know, they are begging you already and you begin to ask yourself- You're hustling, messy. No, how do you not hustle on me? You're hustling in the sense that, you know, you're asking, but I think that there are other, so you have other things that you can engage yourself in. There are little things that can generate revenue. Yes, and this is to tell our young people, you know, we need to, there are ways to make money, like Mercy is saying. You know, fraud is not the way to go. You know, this money you're making is cursed. That's what I believe. You go steal money from someone. It's cursed. It's cursed. It will end well with you. That's my belief, you know. You may not be caught, but that money will not- You want to enjoy it though. You want to enjoy it. And then we also call on parents to do their best to make sure that they discipline their children. You know, the good book says, the Bible says train a child the way he should grow, or she should grow. Mercy. Because she has wins in. And when he or she grows, they will not depart from it. Or maybe I just give her a she. You know. And it's very important to also call on the authorities, Americans, you British, that the Nigerians are hardworking people. And if one person does something that is not right as a crime, doesn't mean all Nigerians or Africans are like that. So the citizen should not bear the brunt of the action of a few people. After all, you have fraudsters everywhere, even in America. The final one, the National Drug Reinforcement Agency arrested the general overseer of a church in Lagos who alleged drug trafficking. I don't know why you guys want to show his face on the screen. Or should we not touch? We should touch not the anointed. I don't know. But it's- His name is Femi Baba Femi. No, sorry, Femi Baba Femi is the NDLE spokesperson who announced this. Oh, there, you can see it. So that is the general overseer. But since it's alleged drug trafficking, I'm worried when we see these mug shots. I'm not a mug shot of that Nollywood girl who was said to have been spraying Naira. Remember, mercy. You know, these mug shots, what do you think they are not guilty? But anyway, his name is a high priest, Naudu Kendrick. He said to have been apprehended alongside several others in an attempt to export 283 parcels of methamphetamine. Can you imagine? And 14.9 kilograms of skunk. Mercy, you know skunk? Concealed in kegs of palm oil to Dubai. Kegs of palm oil. Mercy, you know skunk? How am I supposed to know skunk? You're a journalist. You're meant to know these things. Oh, well, so I hear skunk. But I don't know what skunk is. No, no, no. Don't try and come on. Why are you- So what is it? You don't know skunk? So, but I hear the name. I think it's- Every other time we say skunk, but what does it look like? What is skunk? Okay. You don't know. Yes. Honestly, I don't. Okay. All right. All right. It's a kind of marijuana. It's weed. Oh. It's weed. So it's weed. Is that generally for weed? Yeah, it's weed. But it's a higher grade. Of weed. Yes, yes. So it's called skunk. Yes. So when people want to buy, they go out to say the one's skunk. I hope I got it right. I hope I got it right. I'm not sure. I heard the Jamaicans talk about it. But I mean, what are your thoughts on this? Because I mean, what are your thoughts on this? Oh, Jio, Jio. Look at that. Jio, you know. I mean, it's a very nice to want to talk about, really, to be very honest, but it's, it's very disgraceful. What I say is disgraceful is that as those who are shepherds or those who are called into the fall or those who are, I mean, in the body of Christ, should be, should know better, should, you know, follow the steps. This statement, usually if you follow the Bible, now it sounds like I'm going to be a preacher, let me just go through it. Let's preach on. Preach on. Preach on. Coffee. You remember why, you know, the Christians were called Christians because they behaved like Christ. So they were like Christ-like. The behavior was like Christ. So that's why they were described like that. And if you, if you look, if you read the Bible, there's been several arguments about the Bible not being true and whatever it is, you know, whatever you, but in all of the documentation of the Bible, you find out that there was never anywhere that Jesus himself was doing wrong. Everywhere he went, he was doing good. He healed the sick. You know, he was very generous. He fed people. These were the kind of things that he engaged in. And so, I'm taking it back if that's, you know, Christ-like. But don't forget that a lot of people will come in the guise of saying that they are, you know, followers of Jesus. Absolutely. And but they're not. I don't like what you're doing to me. But we need to go now. No, no, no, no. Coffee was to get put off. All right. All right. All of you at the back here, we need to go away. This is the height of the shop. You put your... We need to go away. Hey, guys, come take this desktop so you can put off from messy, messy. This is our offering. I've never seen a thing like this. We have to go... Old Naira, by the way, Old Naira. We have to go steal the breakfast and plus we have to go right back.