 It's to the best of our knowledge, I'm Ann Streenchamps. Psychedelic therapy could revolutionize treatment for depression and anxiety. But what if you don't want a mind-blowing six-hour journey, complete with hallucinations and an interior light show? Could you take a psychedelic drug without having to trip? That is the billion-dollar question. Everything that we're doing, it's all kind of focused on that question. The neuroscientist is trying to create non-hallucinogenic psychedelics. We can chemically evolve them into something that doesn't look anything like a psychedelic. But we'll have some of the similar effects on the structure and function of the brain. Welcome to Luminous, our series on psychedelics. This hour, which one makes you better? The drug or the trip?