 News Edition, I'm Penisa Levine. Rocket fire from Gaza to southern Israeli communities. Rocket fire from Lebanon to northern Israeli communities. Houthis in Yemen vowing to keep targeting vessels in the Red Sea as they head to Israeli ports. Day 67 of the war. More than nine weeks since the Hamas terror onslaught in southern Israel in which more than 1,200 people were killed. 137 hostages are still being held captive by the terror group. Saudi reports suggesting a secret meeting has been held in Europe to try to secure another hostage deal. This deal is said to include the exchange of hostages, civilian children, women, men, and three senior IDF officers. In exchange, Israel would reportedly release around 300 Palestinian security prisoners, including Marwan Barghouti, the leader of the Faktaq movement. Meanwhile, fierce fighting continues inside Gaza as Israel works to eliminate Hamas. Palestinian media saying Israeli forces have entered the Kamal at one hospital in the northern part of the Strip. No confirmation from the IDF on that development. Israel has gone into several hospitals, finding widespread evidence that they were being used as bases and terror command centers. The IDF has also coordinated the evacuation of these facilities. Israeli troops also finding more weapons inside homes and they found documents and plans for the October 7th attacks inside an apartment used by the Nukba forces. So for the latest on the ground, we now go live to our correspondent Pierre Kloschendler. He joins us from southern Israel. So Pierre read a little siren sounding earlier in the city of Ashkelon, also in several communities, including Nativa Sarrazi, Kim, Mfalsim. What is the latest on that front? What can you tell us? The last instance of rocket fire was over our head in Zderot. A rocket was intercepted, a single rocket, and no damage, no casualties were recorded. According to the municipality of Zderot earlier on, there was also a salvo against the hardest city in Israel, the sea shore city of Ashkelon for interception, no casualties, no damage. And bring us up to speed on the latest fighting inside the Gaza Strip as the IDF works to eliminate the Hamas threat and also locate the likes of Yahya Sinwar and Muhammad Dev. What is the latest? Well, it's a long story. I'll start from the northeast of the Gaza Strip in Bethlehem according to Palestinian media affiliated to Hamas. The Israeli army has besieged the Kamel Raduan Hospital in Bethlehem, and it seems that the people that were locked into the hospital are surrendering. Now, I presume, but this is an assumption by reading the media, the Palestinian media, that the Israeli army would be looking for terrorists because there are still terror cells hiding in tunnels in the northern sector of the Gaza Strip, which is under full Israeli operational control. And the army will probably want to interrogate every male person that's around there. And these field interrogations usually are very useful because that's the way to spot terror cells. That's the way to spot also infrastructure, weapons depot, manufacturing sites, et cetera. Now, further south on the northern outskirts of Gaza City, very fierce fighting for a 12th consecutive day in the Jabalia refugee camp. The Nakhal Infantry Brigade is operating there. There's also fighting in Shejahiya in the southeastern outskirts of Gaza City. And then, obviously, Hanyuness, the make or break of Hamas because the political leadership and military leadership of Hamas is from Hanyuness. And the most loyal people to them are probably those that surround them in Hanyuness. Thank you so much. Correspondent Pierre Kloschendler, live from southern Israel. More to come from our team on the ground in the coming hours. Thank you. And now, for more insight, we welcome to studio International Affairs analyst Dan Perry, former Europe and Middle East editor at the Associated Press and former chairman of the Foreign Press Association in Jerusalem. Dan, thank you so much for being here in studio. 137 hostages remain in captivity. It's more than nine weeks now. And we hear from our colleague Pierre about the fighting that is underway at this hour inside the Gaza Strip. At the same time, there are reports, Saudi reports, of a secret meeting taking place inside Europe, not in Doha inside Europe. What do you make of these reports so far? It's not unexpected that Hamas would at some point go back to the table and try to buy a more time to regroup in Hanyuness in particular with the cards that it has to play, which is the hostages. And these early government is under tremendous pressure to do everything it can to bring back the hostages, even if it means delaying parts of the war at some cost. I think even if it means ending the war, if it came to that, it's a very difficult thing to contend with because the Israeli public does want Hamas to be removed from power in Gaza. And I would bet a lot that the Palestinian public in Gaza, at least, does as well. But on the other hand, they also want the hostages returned. And they also want Israel's standing in the world preserved. And these three goals may not be attainable at the same time, at least. So I think if it came to that, Israel would be forced politically to put preference on returning the hostages, or at least as many of them as possible. And the really meaningful thing that we're hearing in these reports has to do with Marwan Barghouti. This, it must be admitted, is a clever move by Hamas. Because Israel would hope for Hamas to be crushed militarily in Gaza and then politically among the Palestinians for having brought about this cataclysm. But if they succeed in bringing about the release of Marwan Barghouti, who all polls show would win the Palestinian presidency election and is from the Fatah, it'll be very difficult for future Fatah government to wash their hands of Hamas. Certainly can't look at the name, Marwan Barghouti, and not immediately think about all the discussions that have taken place in recent weeks about the day after in Gaza, something we will unpack in a short while. But right now, we cross to our Middle East correspondent, Ariel Osirin, and he joins us from northern Israel, close to the border with Lebanon. And we know Ariel read alert sirens sounding in the upper Galilee, including in Akko and Shamrat earlier. What more can you tell us? What update can you share? Yes, Benito. So just in the past 10 minutes, rocket alert sirens in the border community of Bahram that's in the upper Galilee, no reports of injuries there. And this follows, as you mentioned, multiple incidents of sirens of rocket alert sirens as well as drone infiltration sirens in the western Galilee, including in Akko. Now, regarding that incident, the IDF issuing a statement saying that there were launches identified towards the western Galilee and an interceptor, Iron Dome interceptor was launched. As a result of that launch of the interceptor, the sirens in Akko were activated. And so this is given all these technological systems are very sensitive. Often something simple as an interceptor can sound the alert in another town, but the IDF calming the public saying that there was no targeting of Akko that obviously followed an hour and a half after multiple drone infiltration sirens were sounded in the area of the upper Galilee. The IDF saying that a suspected aerial target had crossed into Israeli territory and that interceptors were fired yet no confirmation regarding whether this drone was downed or not. However, the IDF's home front command saying that that incident is over. And this comes as Isabella claims responsibility for three attacks on IDF forces along the border. And with coming after a day of seven attacks and prior to that over 10, we're seeing a continuation of these cross-border fires taking place on a daily basis along the Israel-Iberan border. And Ariel, we're seeing and hearing more and more defense experts suggesting that when the southern arena of the country is secure again and that Hamas threat is eliminated, then the focus will turn to the northern front in earnest, so to speak. Talk us through what this means for the thousands of residents of the north who have evacuated in recent weeks. Benita, not just security analysts, but Israeli leaders themselves are indicating that once the war in Gaza is complete, at least Israel's goals are met, then fighting against Isabella in southern Lebanon, pushing them away from the border. That is the next goal. Prime Minister Netanyahu just two weeks ago saying that there's a proper order to things, and first they need to finish with Gaza. And so as to the 80 or 90,000 residents of the northern border communities who have been evacuating, they are indeed waiting to see what the government is going to do to push back Isabella, which holds over 3,000 elite fighters spread across the border. This is something that they are, that the residents are saying they are not willing to return until that threat is made. In recent days, we have been seeing some diplomatic activity trying to set the stage for some form of an agreement that will see Isabella remove its weapons south of the Netanyahu River. But given that Isabella is probably not going to agree to such a deal, and at least according to its steps on the ground, is not indicating willingness to do so, this could set the stage for a non-diplomatic solution down the line. Thank you so much. Live from northern Israel, Middle East correspondent Ariel Osaran, more to come from our team up north in the coming hours. Meanwhile, in Yemen, the Houthis have claimed responsibility for the attack on a Norwegian vessel in the Red Sea overnight. The Iranian-linked group saying the military operation against the commercial tanker is its latest operation to protest against what it calls Israel's bombardment of Gaza. The group targeted the tanker with a rocket after the crew refused to respond to all warnings here's Houthi military spokesperson Yethia Saria. Hoping for victory over the oppression of the Palestinian people who are currently being subjected to killing, destruction and siege in the Gaza Strip, and in response to the calls of the free people of our great Yemeni people and the people of our nation. The naval forces of the Yemeni armed forces carried out a qualitative military operation against the stranda ship belonging to Norway that was loaded with oil and heading to the Israeli entity. It was targeted with a suitable naval missile. During the past two days, the Yemeni armed forces succeeded in preventing the passage of several ships that responded to the warnings of the Yemeni naval forces. Yemeni forces did not resort to targeting the Norwegian ship loaded with oil until its crew rejected all warning calls. The Yemeni armed forces will not hesitate to target any ship that violates what was stated in the previous statements. The Yemeni armed forces confirm that they continue to prevent all ships of all nationalities heading to Israeli ports from navigating in the Arab and Red Seas until they bring in the food and medicine that our steadfast brothers in the Gaza Strip need. God is the witness for my words. And still in studio Dan Perry. So we are looking at the threats out of Lebanon. We are talking about the developments inside the Gaza Strip and then we bring in the Houthis who are targeting vessels en route to Israeli ports. Who gets to respond to this? I mean the Americans have a responsibility to keep the traffic going. It's in the world's interest to have the Suez Canal be a viable route of navigation. It's an incredible outrage. Now indeed Yemeni waters, territorial waters control part of the Babel Mandib. That's true, not all of it. But they have a responsibility not to behave this way and this is outrageously brazen. But the thing is this realistically, for Hezbollah to send drones over Israel and to cause the displacement of hundreds of thousands of North is an outrage. For the Houthis to thumb their nose at the world this way and to really threaten Israel economically if its ports in Ashdod and in Elat become unviable is an outrage for Qatar to play double game is an outrage. For the Arab League to continue prevaricating about Hamas is an outrage. Israel can't just be bombing everyone. I'm not hearing the outrage. The world needs to step in at this point when it threatens to become this reasonable and there is a world. There's a UN and the UN Security Council and an EU and there's Russia trying to get involved as well to regain a bit of its legitimacy in the world. The world writ large needs to step in and decide if they want to leave Israel alone to contend with this escalating and outrageous circular outrageousness and I think eventually pressure will be brought to bear and perhaps at the end of the day it comes down to Qatar. And when we get back to Qatar we can't not get back to what we were talking about at the start of this broadcast and that is the fate of the hostages and what Qatar specifically is able to do two things one to broker this deal and two Dan to put pressure on the Red Cross to get to those hostages so the family sitting here right now after more than nine weeks can find out a proof of life and be if their medicines can get to these people right now your thoughts on where that pressure is and why the outrage isn't resounding in our ears as we speak. I don't know the case in history at least in a developed world that we know about where media operates where infants and babies have been taken hostage and this somehow was accepted not accepted but allowed to pass without too much agitation on the parts of global bodies like the ICRC. I understand it's difficult Hamas is an Islamist terrorist group that doesn't appreciate the Red Cross and they're not part of the Red Cross the conventions that govern Red Cross but Qatar could be made to put pressure on them of course they don't have to just succumb to the objective problems on the ground they know how to deal with difficult situations from the Taliban to the Boko Haram and when they want to they have a spokesmanship office I know it very well they know how to raise a big noise and they obviously should and if they don't if they're not inspired to do so themselves they should be given some inspiration by their donors. You made mention earlier of Russia Vladimir Putin weighing in on some level in recent days talk to us about the pressure he could be putting on Hamas right now as well in terms of getting access for the Red Cross to the hostages if he wanted to. Well Putin's main interest is in gaining leverage over Ukraine and of reintroducing himself as a player in the region because it's not really that great for Russia to be seen as purely an ally of Iran which is where it's gotten to because of the war in Ukraine so he has a lot of interest. Of course there are some hostages as well that he succeeded in getting and who's freeing he succeeded in compelling but mainly for Putin it is a game of regaining legitimacy in order to then apply that to the end game in Ukraine. I want to turn back to that Saudi report of that apparent hostage deal in the works and I need to reiterate this is just a report but it says the deal is expected to include children women and men including three senior IDF officers. Also in return Israel would release around 300 Palestinian prisoners in addition to 10 veteran prisoners and Marwan Barghouti which we discussed a little bit earlier. Is the Israeli public ready to see those people being released 300 Palestinian security prisoners? Is it something the Israeli public is ready to accept right now? I think the Israeli public is mature enough to understand the least bad option and this may be not even that bad an option because many people including from the security establishment have argued for years that Barghouti who is a strange character who in the 90s was a man of peace and in the 2000s allowed himself to become part of the Intifada and to be embroiled in some murders he was convicted of is a complex figure who in a twisted landscape of Palestinian politics has gained legitimacy because of his Intifada bona fides and maybe part of a solution to reinvigorate the PA. So a deal releasing him may be really good for Israel in addition to something that can help nudge the Palestinians to a more normal place because it's possible that he would he would absorb some of the support of Palestinian contrarians that is currently going to Hamas which is a worse option. And an invigorated Palestinian authority is something that the US has been talking about for a while now very briefly we know that US Defense Secretary Lloyd Orson is expected to visit Israel next week his likely message briefly. I think his message is for Israel to start planning for the day after and messaging that and working with this potential allies which would be the US the EU and mainly the countries of the Arab League. Much to unpack much to watch much to discuss in the coming days and weeks as well Dan Perry thank you as always we always appreciate you being here in studio appreciate your insights and we now turn our focus to Kibbutz Bairi one of the community's hardest hit during that Hamas terror onslaught on the 7th of October this Kibbutz is home to the country's largest printing works which was largely left untouched on that day and work there has now resumed. More in this report by Davora Ben Anun and Dean Baron Boehm. Let's take a look. Igalshi Treet has lived and worked in Bairi for several decades but on October 7th everything changed. Those are the members of the Kibbutz that they used to work in the print and were murdered part of the modern 90 people that were murdered on the 7th of October of Saturday. We have here people that I know for more than 40 years part of them are from my class in the Kibbutz part of them I worked with for over 25 years. At the bottom we have the picture of Yossi Sharabi which is he is abducted with his brother Eli Sharabi and the last person to be added to this wall is Saar Baruch may rest in peace we heard about it on Saturday. Igalshi Treet's former classmates include Gil Boehm who was murdered with his son and Oron Birra who was killed with his wife and two children including his daughter Tahir also an employee of the company. In all almost 90 people from Kibbutz Bairi were killed including children but barely a week after the October 7th massacres the printing works resumed its activities. I want to tell you something about Itzhak Bachar he's eight years old he comes to work every day from Yama Melach to Bairi he just the last person that was added to the wall is Saar Baruch he's his grandson his wife was murdered on the Saturday the 7th his other grandson was murdered on the Saturday of the 7th of October and Itzhak comes every day to work this is a story of of strength of belief of everything that means Kibbutz Bairi or Tfuz Bairi look at this person it's amazing. Natasha Cohen also works at the printing works she and her family have lived on Kibbutz Bairi for 32 years on October 7th when the numerous rocket alerts began to sound around 6 30 a.m her husband was out walking the dog. Within minutes we heard a motorcycle and I looked at my husband I said to him oh dear it must be from the party they probably ran in a way to you know look for shelter tell them to come in so he went right up to the fence and had a look and as it came by I was busy trying to calm my dog down so I didn't see them because of the fences you know about the Saar and then he said to me it's terrorists I saw two terrorists on a motorcycle with machine guns and I looked at him and I said it's you know you couldn't fathom terrorists it sounds crazy you know rockets we used to not terrorists. Natasha and her family were very lucky because she lives only a few meters from the attacked neighborhood and the terrorists saw her husband. Natasha's family had to stay in the safe room from 7 a.m. until 11 p.m. that horrible feeling of sitting in your safety room when friends are shouting for help and screaming to help and you you you got this useless feeling you can't do anything about it just reading the messages and trying to you know call for help and we were waiting you know for the army to come in time goes by when you realize the arm is not coming in and your friends are shouting for help and there's nothing you can do you realize there's a big problem because if the arm is not here something's definitely gone wrong. Several employees of the printing works's accounting department were murdered on October 7th. Natasha who was in charge of the Kibbutz finances resumed her work at the printing works a few weeks ago first remotely and then a few days ago on site having decided to move back. I didn't think I'd ever come back to Berry thinking to myself how could I ever come come back to a place where I wouldn't feel safer again but within a very short time after that you start getting angry and you think they've taken everything they've ripped everything under your feet you know taken your security your friends family members taking my home away from me as well because we were basically fugitives in our own country and I think it was the anger of you know the humiliation of me not having my own home and them trying to take that from me as well is what made me decide to come back. The print house started to work on the second week I think second week after the October 7th because of two things two main things one it's vital for us for us all since a show of normalcy in a time that there's no normalcy we don't even have the language to describe what happened to us after the 7th of October what you see here it's not less than amazing beyond the strength and resilience as I said before it's a beacon most of the employees that are working on day today they're not from the kibbutz now they're from all over the area and they come on daily basis because it's a it's part of their lives it's their second home. The Berry printing works founded in 1950 is the largest in Israel it employs 350 people it is here that a huge number of official documents including credit cards checkbooks and driver's licenses are printed for the whole country miraculously the printing works was hardly touched by the terrorists however bullet holes can be seen here and there especially on windows but also on this tv set a little further along the kibbutz's pathways are destroyed houses as far as the eye can see among them eagles on October 7th he was not there with emotion he shows us what's left of what he calls his fortress this is our home most of us plan to come back when it's available other people won't be able to come back emotionally this home Berry suffered on the 7th of October suffered a lot and i believe from this suffering will have growth a hope imprinted in every kibbutz resident and that's where we wrap up this edition of our breaking news coverage our rolling coverage continues very shortly and beneath it have been live in Tel Aviv stay tuned thank you for watching back in a bit with dozens of correspondence throughout the world brings the truth from Israel to hundreds of millions of people in scores of countries the state of emergency and war in Israel bringing Israel's story to the world i24 news channels now on hot Israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where she has our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well this breaking news edition i'm panita levine rocket fire from gaza to southern israeli communities rocket fire from lebanon to northern israeli communities hooties in Yemen vowing to keep targeting vessels in the red sea as they head to israeli ports day 67 of the war more than nine weeks since the hamas terror onslaught in southern israel in which more than 1200 people were killed 137 hostages are still being held captive by the terror group saudi reports suggesting a secret meeting has been held in europe to try to secure another hostage deal this deal is said to include the exchange of hostages civilian children women men and three senior idea offices in exchange israel would reportedly release around 300 palestinian security prisoners including marwan borgo t the leader of the movement meanwhile fierce fighting continues inside gaza as israel works to eliminate hamas palestinian media saying israeli forces have entered the kamal at one hospital in the northern part of the strip no confirmation from the idf on that development israel has gone into several hospitals finding widespread evidence that they were being used as bases and terror command centers the idf has also coordinated the evacuation of these facilities israeli troops also finding more weapons inside homes and they found documents and plans for the october 7th attacks inside an apartment used by the nukba forces so for the latest on the ground we now go live to our correspondent pierr clauschendler he joins us from southern israel so pierr red alert siren sounding earlier in the city of ashkelon also in several communities including the tivah sarah zikim the valsem what is the latest on that front what can you tell us the last instance of rocket fire was over our head in sterot a rocket was intercepted a single rocket and no damage no casualties were recorded according to the municipality of sterot earlier on there was also a salvo against the hardest city in israel the seashore city of ashkelon for interception no casualties no damage and bring us up to speed on the latest fighting inside the gaza strip as the idf works to eliminate the hamas threat and also locate the likes of yahya sinwar and mohammed dev what is the latest well it's a long story i'll start from the northeast of the gaza strip in betlahia according to palestine media affiliated to hamas the israeli army has besieged the kamel raduan hospital in betlahia and it seems that the people that were locked into the hospital are surrendering now i presume but this is an assumption by reading the media the palestine media that the israeli army would be looking for terrorists because there are still terror cells hiding in tunnels in the northern sector of the gaza strip which is under full israeli operational control and the army will probably want to interrogate every male person that's around her and these field interrogations usually are very useful because that's the way to spot terror cells that's the way to spot also infrastructure weapons depot manufacturing sites etc now further south on the northern outskirts of gaza city very fierce fighting for a 12th consecutive day in the jibalia refugee camp the nahal infantry brigade is operating there uh there's also fighting in sejaya in the southeastern outskirts of gaza city and then obviously hanunas the make or break of hamas because the political leadership and military leadership of hamas is from hanunas and the most loyal people of them to them are probably those that surround them in hanu in hanunas thank you so much corresponding pia kloschenkler live from southern israel more to come from our team on the ground in the coming hours thank you and now for more insight we welcome to studio international affairs analyst dan perry former europe and middle east editor at the associated press and former chairman of the foreign press association in jerusalem dan thank you so much for being here in studio 137 hostages remain in captivity it's more than nine weeks now and we hear from our colleague pier about the fighting that is underway at this hour inside the gaza strip at the same time there are reports saldi reports of a secret meeting taking place inside europe not in doha inside europe what do you make of these reports so far it's not unexpected that hamas would at some point go back to the table and try to buy in more time to regroup in hanu in particular with the cards that it has to play which is the hostages and these really government is under tremendous pressure to do everything it can to bring back the hostages even if it means delaying parts of the war at some cost i think even if it means ending the war if it came to that it's it's a very difficult thing to contend with because the israeli public does want hamas to be removed from power in gaza and i would bet a lot that the palestinian public in gaza at least does as well but on the other hand they also want the hostages returned and they also want israel's standing in the world preserved and these three goals may not be attainable at the same time at least so i think if it came to that israel would be forced politically to to to put preference on returning the hostages or at least as many of them as possible and a really meaningful thing that we're hearing in these reports has to do with marwan berguti this uh it must be admitted is is a clever move by hamas because this road hope for hamas to be crushed militarily in gaza and then politically among the palestinians for having brought about this cataclysm but if they succeed in bringing about the release of marwan berguti who all polls show would win the palestinian presidency election and is from the fatah it'll be very difficult for future fatah government to wash their hands of hamas certainly can't look at the name marwan berguti and not immediately think about all the discussions that have taken place in recent weeks about the day after in gaza something we will unpack in a short while but right now we cross to our middle east correspondent ariell osaren and he joins us from northern israel close to the border with lebanon and we know ariell red alert sirens sounding in the upper galley including in akko and shomrat earlier what more can you tell us what update can you share yes benita so just in the past 10 minutes rocket alert sirens in the border community of baram that's in the upper galley no reports of injuries there and this follows as you mentioned multiple incidents of sirens of rocket alert sirens as well as drone infiltration sirens in the western galley including in akko now regarding that incident the idf issuing a statement saying that there were launches identified towards the western galley and an interceptor iron dome interceptor was launched as a result of that launch of the interceptor the sirens in akko were activated and so this is given all these technological systems are very sensitive often something simple as an interceptor can sound the alert in another town but the idf calming the public saying that there was no targeting of akko that obviously followed an hour and a half after a multiple drone infiltration sirens were sounded in the area of the upper galley the idf saying that a suspected aerial target had crossed into israeli territory and that interceptors were fired yet no confirmation regarding whether this drone was downed or not however the idf idf's home front command saying that that incident is over and this comes as isballah claims responsibility for three attacks on idf forces along the border and with coming out after a day of seven attacks and prior to that over 10 we're seeing a continuation of these cross-border fires taking place on a daily basis on the along the israeli but on border and ariel we're seeing and hearing more and more defense experts suggesting that when the southern arena of the country is secure again and that hamas threat is eliminated then the focus will turn to the northern front in earnest so to speak talk us through what this means for the thousands of residents of the north who have evacuated in recent weeks benita not just security analysts but israeli leaders themselves are indicating that once the war in gaza is complete at least israel's goals are are met then fighting against isballah in southern lebanon pushing them away from the border that is the next goal prime minister netanyahu just two weeks ago saying that there's a proper order to things and first they need to finish with gaza and so as to the 80 or 90 000 residents of the northern border communities who have been evacuating they are indeed waiting to see what the government is going to do to push back isballah which holds over 3000 elite fighters spread across the border this is something that they are that the residents are saying they are not willing to return until that thread is made in recent days we have been seeing some diplomatic activity trying to set the stage for some form of an agreement that will see isballah remove its weapons south of alitani river but given that isballah is probably not going to agree to such a deal and at least according to its steps on the ground is not indicating willingness to do so this could set the stage for a non-diplomatic solution down the line thank you so much live from northern israel middle east correspondent aril usaran more to come from our team up north in the coming hours meanwhile in yemen the hooties have claimed responsibility for the attack on a norwegian vessel in the red sea overnight the iranian linked group saying the military operation against the commercial tanker is its latest operation to protest against what it calls israel's bombardment of gaza the group targeted the tanker with a rocket after the crew refused to respond to all warnings here's hootie militia spokesperson yeshia saria hoping for victory over the oppression of the palestinian people who are currently being subjected to killing destruction and siege in the gaza strip and in response to the calls of the free people of our great yemeni people and the people of our nation the naval forces of the yemeni armed forces carried out a qualitative military operation against the strindah ship belonging to norway that was loaded with oil and heading to the israeli entity it was targeted with a suitable naval missile during the past two days the yemeni armed forces succeeded in preventing the passage of several ships that responded to the warnings of the yemeni naval forces yemeni forces did not resort to targeting the norwegian ship loaded with oil until its crew rejected all warning calls the yemeni armed forces will not hesitate to target any ship that violates what was stated in the previous statements the yemeni armed forces confirmed that they continue to prevent all ships of all nationalities heading to israeli ports from navigating in the arab and red seas until they bring in the food and medicine that our steadfast brothers in the gaza strip need god is the witness for my words and still in studio dan peri so we are looking at the threats out of lebanon we are talking about the developments inside the gaza strip and then we bring in the hooties who are targeting vessels enroute to israeli ports who gets to respond to this i mean the americans have responsibility to keep the traffic going it's in the world's interest to have the west canal be a viable route of navigation it's an incredible outrage now indeed you know yemeni waters territorial waters control part of the babel mandib that's true not all of it but they have a responsibility not to behave this way and this is outrageously brazen but the thing is this realistically the the for his bala to send drones over israel and to cause the displacement of hundreds of thousands of north is an outrage for the hooties to something in those of the world this way and to really threaten israel economically if its ports in ashdod and in a lot becoming viable is an outrage for a katar to play a double game is an outrage for the arab league to continue prevaricating about hamas is an outrage israel can't just be bombing everyone i'm not hearing the outrage the world needs to step in at this point when it threatens to become this reasonable and there is a world there's a un an un security council and an e you and there's russia trying to get involved as well to regain a bit of its legitimacy in the world the world litlar a writ large needs to step in and decide if they want to leave israel alone to contend with this escalating and outrageous circular outrageousness and i think eventually pressure will be brought to bear and perhaps at the end of the day it comes down to katar and when we get back to katar we can't not get back to what we were talking about at the start of this broadcast and that is the fate of the hostages and what katar specifically is able to do two things one to broker this deal and two dan to put pressure on the red cross to get to those hostages so the family sitting here right now after more than nine weeks can find out a proof of life and be if their medicines can get to these people right now your thoughts on where that pressure is and why the outrage isn't resounding in our ears as we speak i don't know the case in history at least in a developed world the word that we know about where media operates where infants and babies have been taken hostage and this somehow is accepted not accepted but but but um but allowed to pass without too much agitation on the parts of global bodies like the icrc i understand it's difficult hamas is an islamist terrorist group that doesn't appreciate the red cross and they're not part of the red cross the conventions that govern red cross but katar could be made to put pressure on them of course they don't have to just succumb to the objective problems on the ground they know how to deal with difficult situations from the taliban to the boku haram and when they then when they want to they have a spokesmanship office i know it very well they know how to raise a big noise and they obviously should and if they don't if they're not inspired to do so themselves they should be given some inspiration by their donors you made mention earlier of russia vladimir putin weighing in on some level in recent days talk to us about the pressure he could be putting on hamas right now as well in terms of getting access for the red cross to the hostages if he wanted to well putin's main interest is in gaining leverage over ukraine and of reintroducing himself as a player in the region because it's not really that great for russia to be seen as as purely an ally of iran which is where where it's gotten to because of the war in ukraine so he has a lot of interest of course there are some hostages as well that he succeeded in getting and who's freeing he succeeded in compelling but mainly for putin it is a game of regaining legitimacy in order to then apply that to the end game in ukraine i want to turn back to that soundie report of that apparent hostage deal in the works and i need to reiterate this is just a report but it says the deal is expected to include children women and men including three senior idf officers also in return israel would release around 300 palestinian prisoners in addition to 10 veteran prisoners and marwan bargouti which we discussed a little bit earlier is the israeli public ready to see those people being released 300 palestinian security prisoners is it something the israeli public is ready to accept right now i think the israeli public is mature enough to understand the least bad option and it may this may be not even that bad an option because many people including from the security establishment have argued for years that bargouti who is a strange character who in the 90s was a man of peace and in the 2000s allowed himself to become part of the intifada and to be embroiled in some murders he was convicted of is a complex figure who in a twisted landscape of palestinian politics has gained legitimacy because of his intifada bona fides and and may be part of a solution to reinvigorate the pa so a deal releasing him may be really good for israel in addition to something that can help nudge the palestinians to a more normal place because it's possible that he would he would absorb some of the support of palestinian contrarians that is currently going to hamas which is a worse option and an invigorated palestinian authority is something that the u.s. has been talking about for a while now very briefly we know that u.s. defense secretary loyte austin is expected to visit israel next week his likely message briefly i think his message is for israel to start planning for the day after and messaging that and working with his potential allies which would be the u.s the e you and mainly the uh countries of the arab league much to unpack much to watch much to discuss in the coming days and weeks as well dan perry thank you as always we always appreciate you being here in studio appreciate your insights and we now turn our focus to kibbutz perry one of the community's hardest hit during that hamas terror onslaught on the 7th of october this kibbutz is home to the country's largest printing works which was largely left untouched on that day and work there has now resumed more in this report by devora ben annun and dean baron boym let's take a look the galshi treat has lived and worked in berry for several decades but on october 7th everything changed those are the members of the kibbutz that used to work in the print and were murdered part of the modern 90 people that were murdered on the 7th of october of saturday and we have here people that i know for more than 40 years a part of them are from my class in the kibbutz part of them i worked with for over 25 years at the bottom we have a the picture of yossi sharabi which is uh he is abducted with his brother elie sharabi and the last person to be added to this wall is sar baruch may rest in peace we heard about it on saturday i galshi treats former classmates include gil buyum who was murdered with his son and oron birah who was killed with his wife and two children including his daughter taeir also an employee of the company in all almost 90 people from kibbutz berry were killed including children but barely a week after the october 7th massacres the printing works resumed its activities i want to tell you something about itzhak bachar he's eight years old he comes to work every day from yama melach to berry he just the last person that was added to the wall is sar baruch he's his grandson his wife was murdered on the saturday the 7th his other grandson was murdered on the saturday of the 7th day of october and itzhak comes every day to work this is a story of of strength of belief of everything that means kibbutz berry otfuz berry look at this person it's amazing natasha koen also works at the printing works she and her family have lived on kibbutz berry for 32 years on october 7th when the numerous rocket alerts began to sound around 6 30 a.m her husband was out walking the dog within minutes we heard a motorcycle and i looked at my husband i said to him od8 must be from the party they probably ran in a way to you know look for shelter tell them to come in so he went right up to the fence and had a look and as it came by so i was busy trying to calm my dog down so i didn't see them because of the fences you know about this and then he said to me it's terrorists i saw two terrorists on a motorcycle with machine guns and i looked at another i said it's you know you can fathom terrorists it sounds crazy you know who and rockets we used to not terrorists natasha and her family were very lucky because she lives only a few meters from the attacked neighborhood and the terrorists saw her husband natasha's family had to stay in the safe room from 7 a.m until 11 p.m that horrible feeling of sitting in your safety room when friends are shouting for help and screaming to help and you you got this useless feeling you can't do anything about it just reading the messages and trying to you know call for help and we were waiting you know for the army to come in time goes by when you realize the arm is not coming in and your friends are shouting for help and there's nothing you can do you realize there's a big problem because if the arm is not here something's definitely going wrong several employees of the printing works is accounting department were murdered on october 7th natasha who was in charge of the kibbutz finances resumed her work at the printing works a few weeks ago first remotely and then a few days ago on site having decided to move back i didn't think i'd ever come back to bury um thinking to myself how could i ever come back to a place where i wouldn't feel safe again but within a very short time after that you start getting angry and you think they've taken everything they've ripped everything under your feet you know taken your security your friends family members taking my home away from me as well because we were basically fugitives in our own country and i think it was the anger of you know the humiliation and of me not having my own home and them trying to take that from me as well is what it made me decide to come back the print house started to work on the second week i think second week after the may october 7th because of two things two main things one it's vital for us for for us all since a show of normalcy in a time that there's no normalcy we don't even have the language to describe what happened to us after the seventh of october what you see here it's not less than amazing beyond the strength and resilience as i said before it's a beacon most of the employees that are working on day today they're not from the kibbutz now they're from all over the area and they come on daily basis because it's a it's part of their lives it's their second home the berri printing works founded in 1950 is the largest in israel it employs 350 people it is here that a huge number of official documents including credit cards checkbooks and driver's licenses are printed for the whole country miraculously the printing works was hardly touched by the terrorists however bullet holes can be seen here and there especially on windows but also on this tv set a little further along the kibbutz's pathways are destroyed houses as far as the eye can see among them eagles on october 7th he was not there with emotion he shows us what's left of what he calls his fortress this is our home most of us plan to come back when it's available other people won't be able to come back emotionally this home berri suffered on the seventh of october suffered a lot and i believe from this suffering will have growth a hope imprinted in every kibbutz resident and that's where we wrap up this edition of our breaking news coverage our rolling coverage continues very shortly and beneath intervene live in tel aviv stay tuned thank you for watching back in a bit a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where she has our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well in news edition i'm bonisa levine rocket fire from gaza to southern israeli communities rocket fire from lebanon to northern israeli communities and hooties in yemen vowing to keep targeting vessels in the red sea as they head to israeli ports day 67 of the war more than nine weeks since the hamas terror onslaught in southern israel in which more than 1200 people were killed 137 hostages are still being held captives by the terror group saudi reports suggesting a secret meeting has been held in europe to try to secure another hostage deal this deal is said to include the exchange of hostages civilian children women men and three senior idf officers in exchange israel would reportedly release around 300 palestinian security prisoners including marwan bargouti the leader of the fatah movement meanwhile fierce fighting continues inside gaza as israel works to eliminate hamas palestinian media saying israeli forces have entered the kamal adwan hospital in the northern part of the strip no confirmation from the idf on that development israel has gone into several hospitals finding widespread evidence that they were being used as bases and terror command centers the idf has also coordinated the evacuation of these facilities israeli troops also finding more weapons inside homes and they found documents and plans for the october 7th attacks inside an apartment used by the nuqba forces now for the latest let's cross live to our correspondent zack and as he joins us from northern israel close to the border with lebanon and zack red alert siren sounding earlier in the upper galley what more can you tell us what is the latest across the northern border so far reports both in lebanon and here in israel are showing four different attacks by hezbollah today we're waiting for confirmation from the idf and from hezbollah claiming responsibility for each of these attacks but it is once again another day where we see hezbollah and factions in the south of lebanon operating and firing on idf positions and in civilian areas here northern communities one of the images that's circulating from a hit to building what looks like a house in the north here shows a very small puncture mark inside the house and that's characteristic of these atgms these anti-tank guided missiles because they're designed not to explode on impact but to pierce armor piercing missiles to pierce whatever they hit first and then explode once they're inside so these images do tend to visually show that this probably was an atgm launch that ended up striking one of these buildings here and much is being made of israel wanting to push hezbollah back beyond the latani river that's an accordance of course with resolution 1701 then there was a response as well from hezbollah to that move what is the latest on that front in terms of the rhetoric what can you tell us well it does appear that there are some high level negotiations taking place and you would have to imagine that inside the united nations itself there are conversations about how this original unse agreement over 10 years old the security council vote that took place after the 2006 lebanon war that there has to be some level of negotiations taking place but any progress has not been shared publicly of course attempting to push hezbollah back beyond that river creating this 30-mile buffer zone where hezbollah will not operate in the south of lebanon is the goal of the idf they say but that does tend to be one of the greater challenges here one that does not have a timeline and that's a problem for the people that live in the north under these evacuation notices knowing that it seems like the resolve of hezbollah they want to or they will continue to operate and fire upon positions here in northern israel for as long as the operation in gaza continues probably even longer and that's the reality that the idf is attempting to share with the people that live here that this is not something that will be resolved quickly it is going to be something that takes a lot of time and zak over and above the concerns and the threats out of lebanon there's also yemen to factor in and the hooties claiming responsibility for that attack on that commercial vessel in the red sea overnight the iranian linked group saying the military operation against the norwegian commercial tanker is its latest effort to protest against what it calls israel's bombardment of gaza talk us through the likey response here this has global implications well it does you know one of the things i saw from a journalist at the economist that i thought was rather striking is the hooties in in yemen they claim that this is an israeli ship but this economist journalist says it's a norwegian owned ship operated by an indian crew that's on its way from idli to malaysia with vegetable oil now that is still yet to be confirmed but it is remarkable to know this is a these an international shipping lane and these are often crewed not by israelis there's likely not anyone that's jewish on board these ships they're crewed by an international cohort of sailors of shipmen as they move freight around the area and they're caught in the crosshairs and you have to imagine that with their safety at risk and with their lives on the line now it just by simply shipping from port to port that the international community is going to need to be the one that steps in and be responsible again the united nations in not just strong language but assuring that there's safety here in maritime international trade is one area where most of the world often agrees that you you are an independent entity that you your safety is supposed to be assured and that you are not supposed to be hindered from port to port if you're operating legally which all indications show that this ship is operating legally and by international law and international trade rules so it does appear that this is once again going to be a point of inflammation for the region of course you have that u.s. carrier group that is stationed in the red sea and continues to operate with that the scale or that scope of influence the u.s. saying that it might be time for them to ensure that the ships in this area are safe and we'll start leveraging their force accordingly correspondent zek and is live from northern israel thank you so much more to come from zek of course in the coming hours and now we welcome to studio lieutenant colonel in the reserves doran avital former commander in the special forces in the idf doran thank you so much for being here and we're hearing developments on several fronts over and above what is happening out of lebanon over and above what is happening inside the gaza strip yemen and iranian hooties targeting these vessels that are heading towards israel and saying vowing they will continue to do so what do you make of that unfolding in the red sea as we speak i think this is a crucial development and i think the coalition that has to be formed and basically in practice is formed when we have british french and american vessel intercepting those missiles and trying to secure those trade lines that are so important to commercial in general in the to europe to israel specifically of course to a latin s dot so of course this is unacceptable and but i think israel is part of a coalition here and i think the way israel weighs its strategy here is as part of the coalition i think there was even a request by the u.s for israel not to intervene militarily though israel has capabilities to strike targets in yemen yemen however far it is but i think this is a coalition issue there it has to be fought carefully and worked out this is unacceptable of course and it has to be prevented for sure loyde austin is going to be here in the next couple of days what kind of message is he likely to be sending on this front again over and above lebanon over and above the gaza strip and calls for the us behind the scenes for this war to end soon is something that could really spiral into something way bigger not only on the region but of course the globe from the beginning the the u.s sending the carriers and so on were all about de-escalating preventing the conflict from becoming regional and then there were even people thinking that the regional can go ballistic or global so this kind of the khuti threat is really something that makes it regional lebanon regional so in those two places you would have to work out some plan the khuti it has to be some military campaign and then for followed by something else but the military campaign of the the coalition with the lebanon we know that the the americans and we included a not-that-interested in escalating into a global war but to work out some diplomatic campaign according to the lines of 17 or one in the gaza strip this is a different story they would have liked us to conclude in some fashion but we can't conclude without the hostages without senior commanders being of hamas killed and without the hostages dilemma solved so this is the dilemma this is the puzzle where we are all in right now there are reports that israeli forces have entered the kamal at one hospital in the northern part of the strip we know the controversy that erupted last time israeli troops went into a hospital obviously israel maintaining that there is a terror command center under some of these hospitals that weapons are being hidden in many of these premises but talk to us about the care that needs to be taken when troops are fighting with gunmen inside civilian structures like a hospital like a mosque like a home of course i mean this is part of the dilemma of fighting in gaza from the beginning from the onset we saw it everywhere we saw it in shifa we see it right now we see it in schools we see it in mosques i think in two level this has to be worked out in the level of the ground you have to be very careful in applying the military capabilities you have but also the the PR campaign you have to show the evidence you have to show the people to show the world why do we have to do it and how do we do it and i think in most cases we succeed to do it and i think the israeli spokesman for the military for the idea if he's doing a very good job in this fashion what do you make though of that pressure from the united states behind the scenes to wrap up as soon as possible we know antony blinkin said it's for israel to decide when the war will end that's what he said in a televised interview but there are many reports that behind the scenes the messaging is slightly different for sure i mean they're really afraid from a unitarian catastrophe developing in the south of the gaza this is a big issue the winter enters you have questions of illnesses you have questions of a unitarian aid but there are two objective that we have to fulfill really targeting the senior commanders the tunnel infrastructure and for sure the hostage dilemma i think this is the main thing that has to be resolved in the next few days we can't end this phase of the war without the hostage dilemma on some routes to be resolved and talking of exactly that this report a Saudi report suggesting that there are secret talks underway importantly they are apparently happening in a European capital not in doha that is significant for obvious reasons but also suggesting that men women and children and three idea soldiers would be released these are the hostages that are still being held inside Gaza but in return israel would have to release 300 Palestinian security prisoners and over and above that's a big number Marwan Barghouti would be one of them and that is a leader of Fatah not Hamas talk to us about the significance there this is an interesting dilemma even from his perspective to be released under the hospice source to speak of Hamas so i'm not sure what would he what kind of decision he would make make i think he's an interesting figure whatever our blood accounting with him is he was always been spoken as a leader that might be in the future a leader of the palestinian authority the new palestinian authority would need new leaders there's the clan in the emirates so i think it's interesting it's been discussed i remember when i was in the parliament by many senior parliament members whether Barduk is the figure i know senior political figures would visit him in prison this is an interesting development we have to go and be very effective in terms of the hostage dilemma if the if the if the deal is effective reasonable in terms of the other 300 prisoners we are talking we'll have to consider it seriously the israeli public won't accept siding sidelining the hostages dilemma giving up on them for in the for the sake of some conquest of the war which is yet not clear now and in israel every single life matters young and old yeah every single hostage needs to come back so that needs to be affected into a deal as well surely of course no question about that i mean this is in many respects we have a scenario of a hostage-taking scenario in the last scale apart from conducting a war with Hamas and those two aims we we can't give up none of those two objectives so and i think lately the israeli public feels that if we delay this resolution of the hostages we might not find hostages i don't know what we would find so this is crucial the time is running out on those hostages and we have to push forward and if there are no possible rescue operation on the ground in hanyun so the south then a deal that is effective reasonable where israeli would have to take it your take if this deal involves the release of security prisoners and the country definitely wants all hostages home but the country also remembers Yahya Sinwar was released in a previous deal and we all know what Yahya Sinwar went on to do talk to us about how important it is for israel to find this man wherever he is hiding whichever tunnel it is what will it mean for troops to actually catch up with him in many respects in the history of israel is the bloodline of the of the of israeli history and i don't think any conclusion of the world now or in a year from now would end without us targeting and killing Sinwar the same way with the same way the u.s. did with bin laden so putting this aside we have the hostage issue so i would say we'll find him in the way we have the agencies we have the capabilities of doing it so the point of course the importance i don't undermine the importance but we have to resolve the hostage dilemma in this respect right now this is more important but then we'll get here has sinwar there's no question about it the nation needs every single one of the hostages to come home and come home safely as soon as possible doron stay with us because we know as we were discussing a little bit earlier the u.s. is pushing israel to ensure greater aid enters gaza and to try to further limit civilian casualties at the same time israel says it's been inspecting the aid faster than international agencies can deliver it to civilians in gaza and the u.s. needs to do more to distribute it our correspondent pia kloschendler is in southern israel and filed this report there is one front that is very often ignored at least in israel is the humanitarian front which is part and parcel of israel's war effort to dismantle but at the same time humanitarian aid could also pre-launch the war now there used to be one single crossing into the gaza strip the international aid comes from el-arish in the northwest saini peninsula and then used to go to the nitsana crossing on the israeli territory to go back to raffa an hour drive on the egyptian gaza border but that was with only a capacity of 100 trucks including water food material to build shelters and also cooking gas two trucks and four trucks of fuel that's the level until yesterday now there is a new crossing in addition to the nitsana crossing the kerem shalom crossing kerem shalom is a kibbutz which sits on the triangle of border between egypt israel and the gaza strip the kibbutz was the site of a massacre on october 7 and the passage between israel and gaza was ruined now there is another crossing to egypt and to israel at kerem shalom and now this crossing will be open that will allow to double up the aid that goes into gaza and the distance between kerem shalom and raffa on the egyptian gaza border is less than one hour it's shorter so with inspections by israel on israeli territory and with monitoring by un agencies and also by israel on egyptian territory those trucks now are crossing and we should expect something like 200 trucks even possibly more in the coming days that of course is was and is still a dilemma for the israeli government and for the israeli military because aid might prolong the war trucks some of them are being looted by hamas or hijacked by hamas and for their own purposes at the expense of the non-involved palestinian population and thus that allows hamas to refurbish itself and the palestinian population might have less humanitarian aid as a result but there are chaotic scenes as a result of humanitarian aid because the un trucks the un claims not all the roads to the shelters where the trucks can distribute the aid are protected and the israeli army is retorting that it does everything it can to allow the safe passages of truck and that the un must reorganize itself to integrate the volume of aid that has started today in addition there are two humanitarian access for the palestinian population they're open six hours daily and that for a long time in order for the palestinians that are not involved but are trapped into the battleground to move to a safe haven that has been dedicated by the idf between raffa and canyones on the shores of the mediterranean in an area called el muassi this is pia clauschandler i24 news on the israel gaza border and still in studio lieutenant colonel in the reserves doron avital former commander in the special forces in the idf and what do you make a back report we just heard there from pia clauschandler the fact that these aid trucks are coming into the gaza strip and there is verified footage showing hamas hijacking looting some of these trucks and taking this much needed aid for its own terror purposes there's no question we could have expected this and i think using these footages and evidence and using it in our campaign around the world this is important i hope the spokesman of the idf would use it on the other hand we have to facilitate this humanitarian aid i said it from the beginning there's no question you have to work the two sides of this equation fight the hamas but make sure that there's no no catastrophe in terms of human catastrophe with the population of gaza this is the game we play here in the middle east and in gaza so we have to work it out but those footages can serve our cause and maybe also help to create to widening the wedge between the palestinian population in gaza and the hamas the hamas terrorist which we would hope that this would to see this wedge showing itself in the in the gaza strip will be interesting to see the international response if any when this footage is shown because as you say it's verified footage it's very clear to see exactly what is unfolding and more and more people we are hearing gossans having the courage to speak out and verbalize their frustration around exactly that what kind of impact you see that having this is a great impact this is very important for us on many fronts one of the fronts by the way is intelligent because when they less afraid of the hamas they can work out with us and we can find that where hamas is hiding and where our hostages are but also in the prospect when we look up to the future i mean the fact that we can create a gaza that is free from hamas which it's not an easy task to take so to have population acknowledging the fact that hamas didn't serve them that well and didn't to say the the least but took them to this catastrophe this might help to create a better and a new gaza in the future which is the aim of everybody around the table right now President Joe Biden is vowing to continue arming Israel in its war against hamas but is also warning that jerusalem needs to be wary of what he calls and i want to get the exact wording shifting world opinion as it pursues its goal of toppling the terror group you have physically been fighting on the ground you know what that entails what kind of impact does pressure like that from the united states have right now on the operation unfolding in the gaza strength i would separate from i would separate this kind of pressure from the aims and the objective and the way the idea works the idea has these objectives he works out them successfully right now so i don't think this the pressure works there the pressure would work of course in the political echelon because israel after everybody talks about gaza after this war we also have to talk about israel after this war politically and otherwise this is an israel that its allies would ask her to do something else in terms of the way they design the future of this of this area that we live in i mean the aid that we get from biden wouldn't come without in the end some political weightlifting pushing us to a certain direction that this administration thinks is right and maybe some people in our coalition think is wrong in terms of the palestinian authority in terms of the two-state solution and so on so this would be interesting to see what would unfold but first we have to conclude the gaza chapter and when you talk about the us and how it envisages the day after in terms of gaza we know the biden administration has been talking about an invigorated palestinian authority we were talking earlier about reports around this potential deal how would you see leaders palestinian leaders being involved potentially in that invigorated pa down the line inside gaza it won't be easy because first of all hamas is very much rooted in the gaza strip in terms of belief and also in the west bank so it won't be easy how to have the fatah coming back to its power and how to create a new leadership in the palestinian authority this is a tall task and i'm not sure those old figures or names like you mentioned marion bar bar duke marwan bar duke or dahlan maybe whether they are the key to the solution but in the end you'll have to have a new palestinian leadership taking control on their territories and whoever envisions a different future for the holy land you are the palestinian is completely off so they are there they are in the west bank they will stay in gaza also have this this war and after transitional time in the gaza strip we'll have to think of some kind of independent palestinian leadership whether it's a palestinian authority a renewed palestinian authority new leaders old leaders nobody knows but we'll have to work it out that is certainly a discussion for down the line but a discussion for right now is something you've alluded to and that is boiling tensions inside the west bank right now from a security perspective how worried are you about what is unfolding on the ground in ramallah i think i am and i am for quite some time even before the 7th of october there was like a war a year-long war in the northern samaria we're problems in hebron and jenin it's like a hotbed of terrorism and then this terrorism really is on the spectrum between khamas islamic jihad and also youngsters that are either independent or associated even with the fatah so we have a real problem in the west bank so the gaza chapter has to be concluded but we have to see that the west bank doesn't blow up because otherwise we're in a different story and as we have said repeatedly throughout this broadcast the priority remains right now for israel that the 137 hostages still in captivity inside gaza are freed and they get to come home safely lieutenant colonel in the reserve doron avital always appreciate having your insights and hearing your thoughts here in studio thank you so much and that is a wrap for this edition of our breaking news coverage i'm benita levine back in a bit stay tuned our road in coverage continues in i-24 news israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where she has our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well in news edition i'm benita levine rocket fire from gaza to southern israeli communities rocket fire from lebanon to northern israeli communities and hooties in yemen vowing to keep targeting vessels in the red sea as they head to israeli ports day 67 of the war more than nine weeks since the hamas terror onslaught in southern israel in which more than 1200 people were killed 137 hostages are still being held captive by the terror group saudi reports suggesting a secret meeting has been held in europe to try to secure another hostage deal this deal is said to include the exchange of hostages civilian children women men and three senior i df officers in exchange israel would reportedly release around 300 palestinian security prisoners including mawan bargouti the leader of the fatah movement meanwhile fierce fighting continues inside gaza as israel works to eliminate hamas palestinian media saying israeli forces have entered the kamal at one hospital in the northern part of the strip no confirmation from the i df on that development israel has gone into several hospitals finding widespread evidence that they were being used as bases and terror command centers the i df has also coordinated the evacuation of these facilities israeli troops also finding more weapons inside homes and they found documents and plans for the october 7th attacks inside an apartment used by the lukeba forces now for the latest let's cross live to our correspondent zak and as he joins us from northern israel close to the border with lebanon and zak red alert siren sounding earlier in the upper galley what more can you tell us what is the latest across the northern border so far reports both in lebanon and here in israel are showing four different attacks by hezbollah today we're waiting for confirmation from the idf and from hezbollah claiming responsibility for each of these attacks but it is once again another day where we see hezbollah and factions in the south of lebanon operating and firing on idf positions and in civilian areas here northern communities one of the images that's circulating from a hit to building a what looks like a house in the north here shows a very small puncture mark inside the house and that's characteristic of these atgms these anti tank guided missiles because they're designed not to explode on impact but to pierce armor piercing missiles to pierce whatever they hit first and then explode once they're inside so these images do tend to visually show that this probably was an atgm launch that ended up striking one of these buildings here and much is being made of israel wanting to push hezbollah back beyond the latani river that's an incoordance of course with resolution 1701 then there was a response as well from hezbollah to that move what is the latest on that front in terms of the rhetoric what can you tell us well it does appear that there are some high-level negotiations taking place in you would have to imagine that inside the united nations itself there are conversations about how this original unse agreement over 10 years old the security council vote that took place after the 2006 lebanon war that there has to be some level of negotiations taking place but any progress has not been shared publicly of course attempting to push hezbollah back beyond that river creating this 30 mile buffer zone where hezbollah will not operate in the south of lebanon is the goal of the idf they say but that does tend to be one of the greater challenges here one that does not have a timeline and that's a problem for the people that live in the north under these evacuation notices knowing that it seems like the resolve of hezbollah they they want to or they will continue to operate and fire upon positions here in northern israel for as long as the operation in gaza continues probably even longer and that's the reality that the idf is attempting to share with the people that live here that this is not something that will be resolved quickly it is going to be something that takes a lot of time and zak over and above the concerns and the threats out of lebanon there's also yemen to factor in and the hooties claiming responsibility for that attack on that commercial vessel in the red sea overnight the iranian linked group saying the military operation against the norwegian commercial tanker is its latest effort to protest against what it calls israel's bombardment of gaza talk us through the likey response here this has global implications well it does you know one of the things i saw from a journalist at the economist that i thought was rather striking is the hooties in yemen they claim that this is an israeli ship but this economist journalist says it's a norwegian owned ship operated by an indian crew that's on its way from italy to malaysia with vegetable oil now it is still yet to be confirmed but it is remarkable to know this is a these an international shipping lane and these are often crewed not by israelis there's likely not anyone that's jewish on board these ships they're crewed by an international cohort of sailors of shipmen as they move freight around the area and they're caught in the crosshairs and you have to imagine that with their safety at risk and with their lives on the line now it just by simply shipping from port to port that the international community is going to need to be the one that steps in and be responsible again the united nations in and not just strong language but assuring that there's safety here in maritime international trade is one area where most of the world often agrees that you you are an independent entity that you your safety is supposed to be assured and that you are not supposed to be hindered from a port to port if you're operating legally which all indications show that this ship is operating legally and by international law and international trade rules so it does appear that this is once again going to be a point of inflammation for the region of course you have that u.s. carrier group that is stationed in the red sea and continues to operate with that the scale or that scope of influence the u.s. saying that it might be time for them to ensure that the ships in this area are safe and we'll start leveraging their force accordingly corresponding second is live from northern israel thank you so much more to come from zach of course in the coming hours and now we welcome to studio lieutenant colonel in the reserve doron avital former commander in the special forces in the idf doron thank you so much for being here and we're hearing developments on several fronts over and above what is happening out of lebanon over and above what is happening inside the gaza strip yemen and iranian hooties targeting these vessels that are heading towards israel and saying vowing they will continue to do so what do you make of that unfolding in the red sea as we speak i think this is a crucial development and i think the coalition that has to be formed and basically in practice is formed when we have british french and american vessel intercepting those missiles and trying to secure those trade lines that are so important to commercial in general in the to europe to israel specifically of course to a latinish dot so of course this is unacceptable but i think israel is part of a coalition here and i think the way israel weighs its strategy here is as part of the coalition i think there was even a request by the u.s for israel not to intervene militarily though israel has capabilities to strike targets in yemen yemen however far it is but i think this is a coalition issue there it has to be fought carefully and worked out this is unacceptable of course and it has to be prevented for sure loyde austin is going to be here in the next couple of days what kind of messages he likely to be sending on this front again over and above lebanon over and above the gaza strip and calls for the us behind the scenes for this war to end soon is something that could really spiral into something way bigger not only on the region but of course the globe yeah from the beginning the the us sending the carriers and so on we're all about the escalating preventing the conflict from becoming regional and then the way people thinking that the regional can go ballistic or global so this kind of the hootie threat is really something that makes it regional lebanon regional so in those two places you would have to work out some plan the hootie it has to be some military campaign and then for followed by something else but the military campaign of the the coalition with the lebanon we know that the the americans and we included a note that interested in escalating into a global war but to work out some diplomatic campaign according to the lines of 17 or one in the gaza strip this is a different story they would have liked us to conclude in some fashion but we can't conclude without the hostages without senior commanders being of hamas killed and without the hostages dilemma solved so this is the dilemma this is the puzzle where we are all in right now there are reports that israeli forces have entered the kamal at one hospital in the northern part of the strip we know the controversy that erupted last time israeli troops went into a hospital obviously israel maintaining that there is a terra command center under some of these hospitals that weapons are being hidden in many of these premises but talk to us about the care that needs to be taken when troops are fighting with gunmen inside civilian structures like a hospital like a mosque like a home of course i mean this is part of the dilemma of fighting in gaza from the beginning from the onset we saw it everywhere we saw it in shifa we see it right now we see it in schools we see it in mosques i think in two level this has to be worked out in the level of the ground you have to be very carefully in applying the military capabilities you have but also the the pr campaign you have to show the evidence you have to show the people to show the world why do we have to do it and how do we do it and i think in most cases we succeed to do it and i think the israeli spokesman for the military for the idea he's doing a very good job in this fashion what do you make though of that pressure from the united states behind the scenes to wrap up as soon as possible we know antony blinkin said it's for israel to decide when the war will end that's what he said in a televised interview but there are many reports that behind the scenes the messaging is slightly different i mean they're really afraid from a unitarian catastrophe developing in the south of the gaza this is a big issue the winter enters you have questions of illnesses you have questions of a unitarian aid but the two objective that we have to fulfill really targeting the senior commanders the tunnel infrastructure and for sure the hostage dilemma i think this is the main thing that has to be resolved in the next few days we can't end this phase of the war without the hostage dilemma on some route to be resolved and talking of exactly that this report a saudi report suggesting that there are secret talks underway importantly they are apparently happening in a european capital not in doha that is significant for obvious reasons but also suggesting that men women and children and three idea of soldiers would be released these are the hostages that are still being held inside gaza but in return israel would have to release 300 palestinian security prisoners and over and above that's a big number marwan barghouti would be one of them and that is a leader of fatah not hamas talk to us about the significance there this is an interesting dilemma even from his perspective to be released under the hospices to speak of hamas so i'm not sure what would he what kind of decision he would make make i think is an interesting figure whatever our blood accounting with him is it was always been spoken as a leader that might be in the future a leader of the palestinian authority the new palestinian authority would need new leaders there's the clan in the emirates so i think it's interesting it's been discussed i remember when i was in the parliament by many senator parliament members whether barduk is the figure i know senator political figures would visit him in prison this is an interesting development we have to go and be very effective in terms of the hostage dilemma if the if the if the deal is effective reasonable in terms of the other 300 prisoners we are talking we'll have to consider seriously the israeli public won't accept siding sidelining the hostages dilemma giving up on them for in the for the sake of some conquest of the war which is yet not clear now and in israel every single life matters young and old yeah every single hostage needs to come back so that needs to be factored into a deal as well surely of course no question about that i mean this is in many respects we have a scenario of a hostage taking scenario in the last scale apart from conducting a war with chamas and those two aims we we can't give up none of those two objectives so and i think lately the israeli public feels that if we delay this resolution of the hostages we might not find hostages i don't know what we would find so this is crucial the time is running out on those hostages and we have to push forward and if there are no possible rescue operation on the ground in hanyunis or the south then a deal that is effective reasonable we as well it would have to take it your take if this deal involves the release of security prisoners and the country definitely wants all hostages home but the country also remembers yachya sinwar was released in a previous deal and we all know what yachya sinwar went on to do talk to us about how important it is for israel to find this man wherever he is hiding whichever tunnel it is what will it mean for troops to actually catch up with him in many respects hino sinwar now in the history of israel is the bloodline of the of the of israeli history and i don't think any conclusion of the world now or in a year from now would end without us targeting and killing sinwar the same way with the same way the u.s. did with ben laden so putting this aside we have the hostage issue so i would say we'll find him in the way we have the agencies we have the capabilities of doing it so the point of course the importance i don't undermine the importance but we have to resolve the hostage dilemma in this respect right now this is more important but then we'll get here yes sinwar there's no question about it the nation needs every single one of the hostages to come home and come home safely as soon as possible doron stay with us because we know as we were discussing a little bit earlier the u.s. is pushing israel to ensure greater aid enters gaza and to try to further limit civilian casualties at the same time israel says it's been inspecting the aid faster than international agencies can deliver it to civilians in gaza and the u.s. needs to do more to distribute it our correspondent pia kloschendler is in southern israel and filed this report there is one front that is very often ignored at least in israel is the humanitarian front which is part and parcel of israel's war effort to dismantle hamas but at the same time humanitarian aid could also prelaunch the war now there used to be one single crossing into the gaza strip the international aid comes from el arish in the northwest saini peninsula and then used to go to the nitsana crossing on the israeli territory to go back to rafa an hour drive on the egyptian gaza border but uh that was with only a capacity of 100 trucks including water food material to build shelters and also cooking gas two trucks and four trucks of fuel that's the level until yesterday now there is a new crossing in addition to the nitsana crossing the kerem shalom crossing kerem shalom is a kibbutz which sits on the triangle of border between egypt israel and the gaza strip the kibbutz was the site of a massacre on october 7 and the passage between israel and gaza was ruined now there is another crossing to egypt and to israel at kerem shalom and now this crossing will be open that will allow to double up the aid that goes into gaza and the distance between kerem shalom and rafa on the egyptian gaza border is less than one hour it's shorter so with inspections by israel on israeli territory and with monitoring by u n agencies and also by israel on egyptian territory those trucks now are crossing and we should expect something like 200 trucks even possibly more in the coming days that of course is was and is still a dilemma for the israeli government and for the israeli military because aid might prolong the war trucks some of them are being looted by hamas or hijacked by hamas and for their own purposes at the expense of the non-involved palestinian population and thus that allows hamas to refurbish itself and the palestinian population might have less humanitarian aid as a result but there are chaotic scenes as a result of humanitarian aid because the u n trucks the u n claims not all the roads to the shelters where the trucks can distribute the aid are protected and the israeli army is retorting that it does everything it can to allow the safe passages of truck and that the u n mass reorganize itself to integrate the volume of aid that has started today in addition there are two humanitarian access for the palestinian population they're open six hours daily and that for a long time in order for the palestinians that are not involved but are trapped into the battleground to move to a safe haven that has been dedicated by the idf between raffa and hanunas on the shores of the mediterranean in an area called this is pia kloschendler i24 news on the israel gaza border and still in studio lieutenant colonel in the reserves doron avital former commander in the special forces in the idf and what do you make of that report we just heard there from pia kloschendler the fact that these aid trucks are coming into the gaza strip and there is verified footage showing hamas hijacking looting some of these trucks and taking this much needed aid for its own terror purposes there's no question we could have expected this and i think using these footages and evidence and using it in our campaign around the world this is important i hope the spokesman of the idf would use it on the other hand we have to facilitate this humanitarian aid i said it from the beginning there's no question you have to work the two sides of this equation fight the hamas but make sure that there's no no catastrophe in terms of human catastrophe with the population of gaza this is the game we play here in the middle east and in gaza so we have to work it out but those footages can serve our cause and maybe also help to create to widening the wedge between the palestinian population in gaza and the hamas terrorist which we would hope that this would to see this wedge showing itself in the in the gaza strip will be interesting to see the international response if any when this footage is shown because as you say it's verified footage it's very clear to see exactly what is unfolding and more and more people we are hearing having the courage to speak out and verbalize their frustration around exactly that what kind of impact you see that having this is a great impact this is very important for us on many fronts one of the fronts by the way is intelligent because when they less afraid of the hamas they can work out with us and we can find that where hamas is hiding and where our hostages but also in the prospect when we look up to the future i mean the fact that we can create a gaza that is free from hamas which it's not an easy task to take so to have population acknowledging the fact that hamas didn't serve them that well and didn't to say the the least but took them to this catastrophe this might help to create a better and a new gaza in the future which is the aim of everybody around the table right now president Joe Biden is vowing to continue arming Israel in its war against hamas but it's also warning that jerusalem needs to be wary of what he calls and i want to get the exact wording shifting world opinion as it pursues its goal of toppling the terror group you have physically been fighting on the ground you know what that entails what kind of impact does pressure like that from the united states have right now on the operation unfolding in the gaza strength i would separate from i would separate this kind of pressure from the aims and the objective and the way the idea works the idea has his objectives he works out them successfully right now so i don't think this the pressure works there the pressure would work of course in the political echelon because israel after everybody talks about gaza after this war we also have to talk about israel after this war politically and otherwise this is an israel that its allies would ask her to do something else in terms of the way they design the future of this of this area that we live in i mean the aid that we get from biden wouldn't come without in the end some political weight lifting pushing us to certain direction that this administration thinks is right and maybe some people in our coalition think is wrong in terms of the palestinian authority in terms of the two-stage solution and so on so this would be interesting to see what would unfold but first we have to conclude the gaza chapter and when you talk about the us and how it envisages the day after in terms of gaza we know the biden administration has been talking about an invigorated palestinian authority we were talking earlier about reports around this potential deal how would you see leaders palestinian leaders being involved potentially in that invigorated pa down the line inside gaza it won't be easy because first of all hamas is very much rooted in the gaza strip in terms of belief and also in the west bank so it won't be easy how to have the fatah coming back to its power and how to create a new leadership in the palestinian authority this is a tall task and i'm not sure those old figures or names like you mentioned marion bar bar duke marwan bar duke or dahlan maybe whether they are the key to the solution but in the end you'll have to have a new palestinian leadership taking control on their territories and whoever envisioned a different future for the holy land you are the palestinian is completely off so they are there they are in the west bank they will stay in gaza also have this this war and after transitional time in the gaza strip we'll have to think of some kind of independent palestinian leadership whether it's a palestinian authority a renewed palestinian authority new leaders old leaders nobody knows but we'll have to work it out that is certainly a discussion for down the line but a discussion for right now is something you've alluded to and that is boiling tensions inside the west bank right now from a security perspective how worried are you about what is unfolding on the ground in ramalla i think i am and i am for quite some time even before the 7th of october there was like a war a year-long war in the northern samaria we have problems in hebron jenin it's like a hotbed of terrorism and then this terrorism really is on the spectrum between hamas islamic jihad and also youngsters that are either independent or associated even with the fatah so we have a real problem in the west bank so the gaza chapter has to be concluded but we have to say that the west bank doesn't blow up because otherwise we're in a different story and as we have said repeatedly throughout this broadcast the priority remains right now for israel that the 137