 Good evening and welcome back to the first time home show. I am your host, Esti Klassen. As you know, we have absolutely amazing shows coming to you every night this week. Zaman Tungua Kumalo, live at 7 PM, with the private property podcast. Mbali is at 8 PM every Tuesday and Thursday with the farming podcast. And of course, The Home Shopper Show has changed its time to Mondays and Fridays, live at 8 PM. That's Chad with The Home Shopper Show, Mondays and Fridays. And of course, tonight, we have the first time home by a show. And without further ado, I'm chatting to a CEO, entrepreneur, visionary, leader, author. The list is endless. I'm chatting to the one and only, Witness Ndaka. Good evening, Witness. How are you today? I'm good. How are you, Esti? I'm well. Beautiful intro. That's all these titles. And there's obviously so much more that I left out. Tell us a little bit about Witness. Okay. Witness is a young entrepreneur, property investor, started off in the township of Tembisa, built up a business from there. So I don't know, should I get into the details of how I started? I'd like for that, yes. Go deeper. We want to know about your journey, how you got to where you are and the spokes says it all, you know? Yeah. So just tell us a little bit more about that. Okay. So the year is 2008. I've just finished my metric. And my mother discovered that she had overpaid her bond by 150,000 rents. And she decided to build back rooms at our yard in Tembisa. And upon finishing up those back rooms, she said to me that if you want to go to a varsity, you must manage and look after these tenants. And that's how the journey into property started for me. At the time, I didn't even think it was a business. I just thought it's something that brings in money for us to buy groceries for me to go to university. Yeah, I remember the first tenant, his name was Julius Kotokwan. Mm-hmm. Right? The guy came in and my mother said to him, the money that you have, give it to my son, witness he'll be the one collecting the rental every month. And then just like that, I went into property. And I mean, so you had to take the rent and pay for your own education. And being young individuals ourselves, we know that getting money and using it is just to stay committed and motivated, to actually use this for education. Was that easy? Did you not, were you not tempted to buy other things, to do other things with the money? So I must be honest. I was a very forward young man at the time. But my mother had just had her first stroke at the time. She fell ill immediately after finishing the project. And I had to manage the project myself moving. Thank you for watching. Subscribe. Click the like button. Thank you.