 Welcome back. It is still the run-up on plus TV Africa and I still have as my guests come with a rugby and slim national youth leader Labor Party Aki Olawaya public affairs analyst member of the Labor Party and my Queen Illo policy analyst and former governorship aspirant APC Ogun state. Gentlemen you're welcome. I also still have with me my virtual co-host Adebayo Olawaya. Hello Adebayo. Are you still there? Yeah, I'm already. All right well strong indications have emerged that ahead of the zoning of offices of presiding officers for the National Assembly crisis looms in the ruling party the all-progressive Congress the APC as calls for the immediate resignation from office by the national chairman senator Abdullah Adamu Hayton according to the rights activist Adamu's resignation would also be a great opportunity for the all-progressive Congress to assuage the feelings of Christians towards the same-face arrangement of the party in the recently concluded presidential election. Well Nigerians are not known to resign especially political office holders. Let me start with you. Do you see him head into this call to resign? Well I wouldn't expect him to actually say this is a classic case of a storm in a teacup. The party has all this under control. There's the issue of perception so those people are clamoring for his resignation. I think I've got it wrong at this stage. They should at least exercise some bit of patience and I'm sure even the leadership itself knows that justice must not only be done it must be seen to have been done. Christians are a big demographic within the party. Maybe as much as half. So if for some political expediency and you know putting merit over where you are from made us to have both the president and the vice as Muslims that doesn't mean that the president elect as it were is oblivious of the fact that Christians must be well represented. So that's number the first two positions in the country. There's the position of Senate president, there's the position of us of rep. There are other positions that technically we can be sure that Christians will be represented. As it were for Labour Party for PDP they had a balancing of the tickets you know but people move the things that move the need that ultimately made them to decide in favour of one thing or the other very you know playing tribal politics has not really helped us in this country playing religious politics too has not really helped us. So if we can uptake or promote competence maybe character maybe results driven administration above most other things we would be better off. Alright Adebayo you want to come in here? Yes I would actually like to start with Mr. Mayor because in the room to the presidential election is after the candidate of the APC, Ashua Drew Polakme, who had chosen his running name there was a lot of noise and the APC that fed back to the system to the public the information that religion didn't matter it was going to be cool meters but now we are beginning to see religion wearing it again in the APC. I am just wondering if the APC has been consistent at all, if religion never mattered when it chose its presidential running date should it now matter and is the APC contradicting itself? Yes it is. Okay it's not a contradiction there are forces within the party there are interest groups within the party so this is just a section of the party feeling that their voice have to be heard. It's not we can't wish it away the fact that okay demographics people have to be represented in a country where you have women you know I would expect us to do better than we have done in the past. The Bwari administration promised at least 30% representation for women we've we've had it worse and that is not because it's not an APC problem it's a Nigerian political system problem you know I think this new 10th assembly or whichever assembly it is going to be is now maybe three senators who are women out of honour and hate you know it's not good enough for me I will if I were the governor or the president I will be working towards getting something close to 50-50 it's not going to be automatic but if the desire is there when there's a will there is a way so it's the challenge is not just for APC the challenge is for all the political parties and political actors we should try and promote inclusivity either of religion or of ethnicity people should be represented because you feel more at home when you see that okay my person has been represented in this this whether that now translate into effective efficient productive representation is another matter so at the end of the I think at the top of the pyramid we should have character and competence then a little down the line we should be able to think are we representing the parties are we representing the various demographic that need to be represented so we are not speaking from both sides we are just saying that even if in this particular instance we have to go in this direction that doesn't mean that we have lost sight of the fact that other things have to be carried along so it's not an either or situation it's a and situation we can do this we can balance ethnicity and balance competence when you need arises okay how do you find this drama playing out or about to play out in the APC especially speaking from the view of an opposition so I think it's the same genius on one hand to say that competency character you know in how they picked the two ticket you know offices for vice-president you know should overlook religion or perhaps you know social class or many of the things we look at from a diversity lens and now going to party politics and say well perhaps oh yeah let's bring up let's bring back that you know need to have representation I think APC as a public establishment as a party that's been around past eight years has become a cancer to Nigeria in terms of how they've led this country looking at the results for the past eight years how they conduct elections I mean perhaps if the previous president before Buhari did not choose an excellent process he will not have emerged again as you heard our candidate Peter we say if you're going to be called excel I see the process must be excellent I go back to the fact that again looking at the spare and representation across the party he mentioned three people being women senators or elect they're all party members that again shows you that as a political party looking at you know how we like to project our politics and our preference for diversity and inclusion again action matters I'm not an APC member so I can tell us who they up for you know religion or perhaps ethnicity but we're all saying something as a nation if we're truly going to forge ahead we're truly going to build the best of our democracy inclusion diversity must be what we often portray so the 11-year-old child the 14-year-old girl the 18-year-old university graduate understands that it get home talk of national character we're not only saying to do it because we want to play together but we're equally taking a serious approach in making sure that's how we again teach people to be better Nigerians so I wish APC the best but I'm saying you know you get more propaganda in computers in efficiency so what we choose to do in our party structures not my business all right do we have comrade on now all right we've lost that connection with comrade but how do you see because the 10th assembly will be formed very soon in fact June it will be inaugurated now the parties are having meetings APC will be having their meeting today just as you your party is planning to have their protest today but do you see the position of senate president given to the southeast as waging so I think it will be unfair to again hand off a consolation price the region to perhaps you know appear as though there is this balance and equity being distributed Nigerians seek competent leaders that again can architect a blueprint or a future that the unborn generation will benefit from it look at our community and Lagos body but was before we're calling him the new architect of Lagos was simply saying how can we write the future of in Nigeria that works so yes at the point where senate president is selected congrats to all of the senator candidates that won again truly on the mandate of people for those that read their ways into office their candidates will obviously go to court as they said but knowing fully well that yes for the time means somebody is going to occupy our chair a senate president I'm truly hoping they pick the best and the brightest people with ideas people have gone to abuja to write laws to basically you know promote bills that advances this nation can we make them become the country that manufactures can we become the country that does not export doctors but becomes a foreign medical tourism destination so for us we're truly saying look when I lose whatever it was in that chair not make sure as you lead the Nigerian people and as you again write policies and introduce programs they're doing it in the best interest of advancing Nigeria I did buy you want to come in yes I was quite impressed with the analysis that was making and the follow-up that has come from Mr. Lowey but if I recall correctly Mr. Lowey made references to demographics and interest groups within the ABC and he mentioned the percentage of participation within the party and I want to throw this question to Mr. Lowey one of the reasons that have been that has been adduced for the emergence of labor as a very strong force has been the fact that it's provided a platform for young people and then if you look at the PPP and if you look at the ABC to help you find young people in the top echelons of the party or even in political appointments when President Bansungyo was there we have very many states of information but very young people we won't say that in a while will you say that maybe what has been able to influence where they see much and see what is happening in the ABC are you seeing young people like to emerge in any leadership positions in the ABC which is obviously most likely going from the federal government. So I would say this you can't teach an old dog how to play new tricks you start looking at the competition for party positions within the ABC again say for their national youth leader Dior Israel again one who's again done some of the necessary work from the age of 10 getting himself to where he's today much good as to him outside of that realm you would find very un inspiring faces as you look at the ABC and how it's built its leadership structure going into the next administration again if we again hopefully come out of court with a judgment I would hope that Peter OB and my party would be the ones again having ministers and a cabinet and remember let's even talk about a possible Bella Ahmed timable administration and we look at a lot of figureheads that were part of his political campaign the surrogates and perhaps the individuals in his presidential campaign council it only tells you that the blueprint that we should expect is not one that young people would truly smile at yes you may have surrogates like his son who's again who's been on the front lines campaigning vigorously but you look at liberal party and you see inspiration you see what the future looks like from the candidates and even the faces behind the obedient movement a lot of people are first-timers in politics never run for counsellorship never run for LGA chairman never even run for House of Assembly as a matter of fact a lot of people who spearheaded this obedient movement in terms of the prominent verses could not even tell you what a world meeting look like or whether a political unit was but again these new school politicians and I would call them because again they're actively involved in politics have basically dismantled the political establishment even look at the latest elections and the results that emerge it would all the weekend I happened with all of the suppression and threats and ethnic divisiveness that the APC promoted they could not still again reduce the turnout giving us the victory so I'm saying something our party again speaking the language of the future so what are we doing about faintheck how we open Nigeria's brothers we see that Nigeria becomes a thousand destination every December next on Ghana two billion dollars from Afro nation what steps Nigeria from again saying Nigeria should be visa free in December let us complete our next one neighbors so I say give us smart policies a lot of young people the jacquard syndrome every day you go to the airport I see young people with their certificates fiscals to one degree orders fleeing this nation rather than having a brain drain can we have a reverse brain drain so for many of us like me a diaspora who lived in the US for 17 years coming back to Nigeria saying you know what home is home I want to be part of this nation building we are speaking the language that the next generation can benefit from so I'm hoping the APC can see a lot of things we have done it will talk about politics and how you even promote candidates in office for the first time in history of Nigeria you have online everyday working class Nigerians supporting political candidates going out knocking on doors printing t-shirts we hope we don't pay people to show up we don't mobilize the word mobilization to us is fresh or in Spanish so I'm saying what are we doing differently as a nation we say that you know what when our APC of labor or PDP Nigeria should work for everybody which have inclusiveness which have diversity and simply saying this country will then become the beacon on the hill an African continent for where we can become an example well thank you so much gentlemen well this is how much we can take because of time I can allow your public affairs analyst member of the Labour Party comrade national youth leader Labour Party and policy analyst and former Guardship aspirant APC of the state have been our guest today as we took a look at the LP plan nationwide strike against INEC and the call for the resignation of the APC chairman senator Abdul ahi Adamu of course my co-host has been added by a lower care who joined me virtually as always many thanks for watching thank you gentlemen I am Maureen Menongwese again good day