 one as you already. I'm I'm actually still reading. So we'll start in just a couple of minutes when some commissioners catch up on what we've been given just as we walked in. Good evening everyone and welcome to the May 2nd regular meeting of the city of Santa Cruz planning commission meeting we'll call the meeting to order and ask for a roll call please Tess. Commissioner Schifrin? Here. Conway? Here. Spellman? Here. Nielsen? Here. Greenberg? Here. Singleton? Here. Chair Pepping? Present. Are there any statements of disqualification for any of the items under on our agenda tonight? Seeing none we would move to oral communications next but the vice chair Spellman brought up the suggestion that we move item number five the public hearing on the Brook Avenue right away issue to earlier in the agenda so that those that anyone interested in that doesn't have to sit through a couple of other pieces. I know Dr. Tiffany Wise West is here almost always recently we've put her really late in the agenda so maybe I'm gonna suggest and look for kind of nods of approval or disapproval that we move number five to number three okay we're gonna do that then and so the we will then open the next section on the agenda is oral communications and we'll invite the public to talk about every item on our agenda but this section is for the public to address the commission on any item that is not on the agenda so welcome if you'd line up and state your name if you would please sign in and you have three minutes welcome thank you Shelly Hatch I brought this wonderful poster I thought you might have it up tonight I came across it when I was going to the planning department last year it was in the display case in front and May is preservation month in Santa Cruz old is the new green sustainability and continuity are stressed and I thought it was very important and I thought you would be having your celebration tonight over maybe in preservation month I hope that sometime that can become agendized as a topic of discussion at the Planning Commission thank you thank you for your comments anyone else that would like to address the Commission for items not on the agenda tonight seeing none will close oral communications and move on to approval of minutes we've had the minutes circulated from the April 18th meeting and actually it's a little strange I think because the minutes include a detail of what was decided last month with the Commission meeting guidelines but it wasn't totally accurate so I was going to suggest a couple of changes that the Commission approved but a lot of changes were made and the staff didn't catch all of them but then when we get to the consent agenda the staff has submitted a whole further revision of the meeting guidelines so I'm not quite sure why there was no staff report that explained the changes that the staff was proposing that were different than what the Commission unanimously approved last time but I'm not sure procedurally how best to proceed I would there were two change minor additional changes to the minutes in terms of the meeting guidelines one the Commission approved setting a maximum total time of oral communications rather than giving a specific time and then there was a suggestion to move the sign-in recommendation from under oral communications to under the just suggestions for speakers because we do like to have people sign up for every every time they speak rather than just all communications so those were two changes that like to put into the minutes because they reflect what the Commission approved last last time there's no objections to that okay so we're sounds like you're gonna want to pull item three off a consent and discuss that right now we should just focus on the accuracy of the minutes deal with the minutes so unless somebody else has a concern I move the minutes as amended those two changes I'll second that we have a motion in a second all in favor of approving the minutes as amended hi hi that passes unanimously with my abstention I was not here 6 0 and the next item on the agenda is thank you for those mr. Schiffin the next item on agenda is a climate action annual update which of course we get annually and welcome dr. Tiffany wise West with a staff report thank you so much good evening commissioners I'm really thrilled to be here this evening I am Tiffany wise West the sustainability and climate action manager for the city of Santa Cruz and this is my annual report and you are the first body to actually receive this report this year and I do thank you and rest the staff for putting me soon on the agenda closer this year last year I think we came on at 10 30 just to orient you to the climate action plan again so our plan was adopted in 2012 it is the first plan that the city has adopted and it contains 12 climate action milestones that are tracked through 13 indicators eat that each have targets and excuse me there are 254 actions that are specified to achieve those goals so as the climate action manager I do lead the strategy on emissions reduction as well as adaptation but certainly this is not a one-person kind of thing I work really widely with department heads and the rest of the community on this work and I thought I would share with you some of the key action plan implementers so I meet every other month with department heads quarterly with the community climate action task force which was just recently reseeded with the new mayor you can see on the right hand side the kinds of things that we worked on the keep it cool business-oriented energy conservation campaign could not have happened without our climate action task force and they also have been really key in an anti idling campaign we have going on with the schools right now their work on the adaptation plan update this past year and they've recently launched a working group looking at green leases and rentals they've also begun working on the scoping of our climate and energy action plan 2030 because our current plan actually sunsets in 2020 so we will be embarking upon that plan process in fiscal year 2020 we also have an employee sustainability team with representatives from basically every department and there are a number of standard things that that group does each year we make the awards from our internal carbon fund to fund other carbon reducing projects we do lots of promotion around things like clean air day bike month which is happening right now and kudos to those of you I notice who wrote up on your bikes today we also annually complete an evaluation of the capital improvements program projects for whether or not they implement the climate action plan and just this year we also reviewed them for how they implement the climate adaptation plan and both those lists are on the on the beginning of the budget document so it gives decision-makers feedback on when they're making decisions on the budget of course this group is also really key in the climate and energy action plan scoping and we've taken a couple field trips this past year notably to the energy storage facility in the basement of the county building this is just a list of really the the folks I work with on a more day-to-day basis on this work but I also should mention that in the community I work with the green schools committee the county commission on the environment which I sit on with chair pepping as well as I'm the chair of the central coast climate collaborative and work really closely with Monterey Bay regional climate action compact which is our sub regional collaborative so on to the climate action plan and there's lots to share with you here so we have these little infographics that kind of show you at a glance where we are with progress so since we're in year 10 of 12 right now we should be assuming kind of a linear path at 83% progress if we are going to achieve our goals so right now we have three targets that have been achieved five that are on track to be achieved and five that are not on track to be achieved and I think it's important to mention that when we developed these ambitious goals we as residents of Santa Cruz already have a very high environmental ethic and the baselines for many of these goals is very high to begin with so so they are quite ambitious of those 254 actions that we specified to reach these goals 30% have already been complete and about another 34% are ongoing or in progress so let's jump right in reduce energy use in municipal buildings by 40% so here we're excluding the waste water treatment facility the water treatment facility conveyance pump stations as well as street lighting and what we saw as a slight increase this past year so we're only showing 7% decrease in energy use however as I've noted here I think it's really important particularly for this milestone and I'm bummed that we lead with this is that the data are kind of spotty for this one we have unfortunately had to pull from different data sources due to PG&E preventing our accessibility to our typical data sources and there are changes that PG&E makes in what they make available that is not consistent year to year so I think it's really important to point out that you know there's not a lot of change really going on here but that the data it's suspect and so we're constantly kind of looking for ways to improve our data collection on this one in particular however with that said there are several things going on that lead me to believe that we still have a shot at making a dent in this one first of all last year we completed a number of CEC loan projects California Energy Commission loan projects that were HVAC lighting and so forth we haven't seen the impact of that hit our energy usage yet secondly we received a California Energy Commission grant to do advanced building energy controls at the annex building behind us and also at PD that just got installed within the past few months so again haven't seen the impact of that that really will optimize the HVAC operation and then last we just got approved by PG&E some on-bill financing for some more lighting projects so we do have a lot of projects in the works here and I I want to note that just this year we're receiving from the Air District the Clean Air Leaders Award for the work that our Public Works Department facilities division and notably our energy projects coordinator Andy Shatney has been doing on lighting retrofits it's been astounding the quantity of retrofits he's been doing so for that we're getting a Clean Air Leaders Award later in the month and then I also want to highlight that for the first time and this is a very rare award to be able to get across California the local government commission issues what's called the Beacon Award and the Beacon Award a full Beacon Award acknowledges or recognizes an agency's holistic approach to addressing climate change and we are one of the few cities that will be getting a full Beacon Award this year this is the second time we've got a Clean Air Leader Award and this is the sixth Beacon Award with it being the first full Beacon Award that we received so I really want to highlight those two things because the numbers really don't tell the whole story here okay so moving along expanding energy efficiency programs to 30% of homes and businesses so we have three things that we track here we track our green building permits we track central cost energy services jobs and households that they do low income weatherization and energy efficiency and for the first time we incorporated our keep it cool that energy business conservation campaign that I mentioned where we were able to get 215 businesses to say yes we'll keep the doors closed if we're running AC or heat so this one is a difficult one for us to really have influence on sorry about that and so we've only really you know made 18% progress on this but we continue to look for ways to incentivize homes and businesses to be able to take advantage of energy efficiency incentives that are out there right now the next one then is to this one is pertains to renewable energy and there are three metrics associated with this first of all we're looking to increase solar to 5,000 residents we track this through the California solar initiatives interconnection agreements and we have over 2,800 installations last year was our peak we installed 460 systems last year we went down this year which is a little surprising considering the federal tax credit is going to start stepping down at the end of this year so I would have expected more of a rush to install here maybe that will happen this year I did talk with a couple solar contractors that did also acknowledge that last year was a light year for them as well notably also here we do have a low-income solar project that's being funded by our community development and block grants CDBG and so we are funding the installation of three solar systems on low-income homes this year and Monterey Bay Community Power our power procurement agency or community choice aggregator is also offering grid alternatives for low-income folks that are eligible within the tribe County area next is to achieve 500 businesses with solar and the share we this past year we only had two systems that should be in 2018 apologies there with a total of over 74 systems again this is a difficult one for us to really try to influence you know we do have this streamlined permitting and so forth but I'd love to do again at some point if we can find some funding a commercial solar technical assistance project that we did in 2015 that resulted in three additional installations and then finally one that we are on track to achieve is to supply 33% of our municipal building load with renewables so here we define renewable energy as electricity from methane which is the majority of that renewable energy component and then the rest from solar which is at about 7% right now what you see on these this graph where there are the sunshine is where we've had some major installations take place of solar PV and this pasture we got to fully realize our Bay Street reservoir installation in 2017 and what that's providing for us so this one we are on track and by the way we also will be we're in the process of writing RFPs for the corporation yard and expansion of that solar system as well as one at the landfill so we're expecting those to be installed or at least under contract by the end of the year and break ground this is one that we've already achieved partnering with UCSC on 25 sustainability and alternative energy projects we have all kinds of things to point to our renewable energy testbed at the wharf that has the wind turbine the bifacial solar street lamp an EV charging station we've done tree plantings this year as part of our urban tree inventory project we've done bike commute workshops and so forth so I think we are at 31 projects right now one of my more recent collaborations right now is with the coastal policy and our coastal science and policy grad program they're working with me on our resilient coast initiative which I'll tell you a little about a little bit about in a moment next ensuring that the rail corridor fights supports bike and pedestrian use how we track this one is by the percentage of the 3.5 miles of the trail that is within city limits that's funded either for design or construction and there has been no change since 2017 we are still at 92% of that trail is funded for design or construction and as you all know the trestle bridge expanded path is under construction right now and should be ready for summer next for water conservation we don't really have specific targets for water conservation but what we like to share is our per capita per person water use as well as our annual water savings as compared to 2013 when we were under a mandatory rationing so you can see the graph on the left-hand side shows per capita water use in Santa Cruz the center coast in California the green line Santa Cruz and as is usually the case year to year we can serve much better than the rest of the region and the state and you can also see that since that emergency rationing had been released we've been released from that in 2014 we continue to conserve relative to 2013 at 21% below 2013 volumes so you know great job city Santa Cruz and its residents and continuing to conserve water next is our achieved 75% total waste diversion and maximize organic waste diversion we have taken a little bit of a dip the past two years where a 65.5 diversion rate again trying to get to 75% I have to suspect that China's national sword policy probably plays a role here in our diversion rate going down after several years of you know upward trajectories we do continue to look at organic waste there will be state mandates requiring us to deal with organic waste there is a commercial food waste pilot going on right now and I know that there's some equipment being installed at the landfill to prepare for organic waste handling in the future okay number eight is increased bike ridership to 12 percent of local commutes so how we track this one is typically through the American Community Survey five-year average because American Community Survey does not make a or conduct a survey every year we use that five-year average which did go down this year I think it went down to 9.2 percent I should mention first of all that we had first made this target 10 percent that was achieved in 2016 so we made a stretch goal of 12 percent by 2020 and although the five-year average has gone down we did have for 2017 a one-year survey which shows that bike ridership is actually now at 13.2 percent so in a way you can say that we've achieved that goal just not the typical way that we track it number nine is to switch 20 percent of low carbon fuels to two low carbon fuels and we track that through the Department of Motor Vehicles registrations and we found the 8.1 percent of cars on the road here in Santa Cruz zip codes our EVs are hybrids so we're chugging along to that goal again this is a difficult one for us to influence however we have been successful we've submitted two proposals to electrify America which is the VW settlement agreement investment 800 million in California and have been successful they are bringing two to four DC fast chargers we're having a kickoff with them later in this month as well as multifamily charging so addressing that rental market that often has difficulty in providing chargers also Monterey Bay Community Power just yesterday launched their EV incentive program which is very generous and very exciting so I encourage all of you to check that out and spread the word on that between those two things as well as a lot of incentives around EV charging I'm hoping to see this really tick up next year number 10 is to retain 200 green businesses in the city we're at 175 green businesses and we continue to make strides in this area we did add our keep it cool campaign as a measure for green business certification so we continue to partner together to achieve this goal and this for the first time I'm very glad to be able to report maintaining an increasing urban tree canopy by 10 percent we have never been able to report on this metric before we got a grant through the UCSC carbon fund and matched that with city carbon fund dollars to hire the Center for Integrated Spatial Research at UCSC to conduct a canopy study we did that for years 2009 through and 2016 the only years data are available and what we saw was a 2 percent increase in canopy which is great because our goal is trying to get us from that first baseline years 36.4 percent really high to 40 percent and we're at 38.2 right now also one dimension we've planted over 300 trees in the past year as part of our cal fire grant and our RFP for our GIS based inventory is going to be going out next week so that should be done by the end of the year and then our final metric that we track is reducing single occupancy vehicle commutes 10 percent so this has stayed static the past two years at 58.1 percent again using that American Community Survey five-year average so you know we've made progress here but we've been a little bit stalled out the past couple years hard to say why but we you know the downward trajectory and all is is pretty good here I thought it was interesting to share with you the mode split across different scales the city the county california in the us you can see that our drive alone rate is lower than all the other scales as is our transit walking and biking is the highest amongst all the scales and car pooling is where we're not doing as good as some of the other areas and so as I believe you know our public works department and planning are finalizing a transportation demand management program that really is going to help with car pooling and providing incentives for alternative transportation to really get people out of their cars and so that's happening right now as well one other thing I want to mention I missed it on the evs is that we do have a large project at our corporation yard where we're installing 16 ports level two chargers for our fleet we have our electric trolley two trolleys that are coming online later this year and we have plans for some other electric vehicles we're going to be pursuing some grants this year from the air district for that as well as our regular replacement program my very last thing then is our greenhouse gas emissions goals you know through Monterey Bay community power we were able to eliminate 59 percent of our energy emissions in 2018 because our emission factor for electricity is now zero we have achieved our emissions goal our 2020 emissions goal a year early and we are on track to meet that 2050 goal we also will be when we conduct our climate and energy action plan process this next year we're going to be reconsidering our goals taking a look at some more aggressive goals that are more aligned with state goals such as carbon neutrality by 2045 we'll be incorporating some of the elements of our climate emergency mobilization resolution and a lot of that also will be aligned with the green new deal i know there's a lot of interest in the green new deal right now and my very final slide is i just want to give you the quick adaptation update i'm going to be coming to you soon within the next couple months to talk to you about our resilient coast initiative which is our west cliff drive adaptation plan and a project to amend our local coastal program to include sea level rise policies that's a collaborative effort across the city we also have a sea level rise virtual reality application that's in development to support the outreach of those resilient coast projects as well as a card game that's getting ready to launch and we're going to be actually showcasing that at the california ap a conference later this year the arts commission has also funded a climate change theme performance art collaboration that started at earth day this past year and we are doing our second shrinking shores event at world oceans day on june 8th in collaboration with save our shores so a lot going on in the adaptation space and more updates to come and with that i'll take any questions that you might have thank you for the presentation any questions for staff commissioners different one just a comment today at the regional transportation commission meeting it was announced that the trestle project will open on over the sandlands the river will open on may 17th and there may well be a grand opening event on the 23rd so that project has been is being completed earlier than anticipated my schedule has to do with electrical electric vehicles and wondering given the priority that monterey bay community power is giving it how is that going to affect the city's fleet of vehicles to what extent are they electric and what are the plans to extend and not to have them be electric sure so thank you for that question and thank you also for letting us know on the early timeline on the trestle bridge i was not aware that um monterey bay community powers uh incentives right now are not necessarily geared towards local government fleets however the air district does have incentives right now for fleet uh vehicles to transition to electric they also have grants that fund you know not the typical passenger car but say for example a refuse truck an electric refuse truck so we are pursuing we're right now kind of internally discussing what is the right project to go for this time around a couple things are under consideration we will be pursuing a grant for you know non-passenger vehicles right now we have a number of vehicles that are like our parking our parking enforcement carts that are electric we have some new parts maintenance vehicles that are electric and then we have a number of passenger vehicles that are electric and hybrid i would say maybe six electric and i don't even know how many hybrid a number of them our fleet division and facilities division is in conversations right now with um a leasing agency to see how we might accelerate our adoption of electric vehicles because right now cost is a barrier with the budget excuse me and so we are exploring ways that we can get low in a low cost way get into more electric vehicles we do not have a fleet electrification plan right now so there is no kind of pathway or goals that we're trying to work towards however that will most surely be part of our climate and energy action plan 2030 that will begin developing next year you're welcome any other comments or questions for staff from commissioners as is our new practice i think we invite the public to comment on everything right so we won't be taking action on this item it's just for the commission to receive the update from staff yet we will invite the public to address the commission if you have any comments please come for and for all comments please come to the right side of the room and queue up and sign if you sign in if you would please and state your name if you're willing welcome hi i came to your presentation at the library a couple months ago so this is interesting to hear too i wondered if any of the statistics include the influx of the non resident cars if those are no they don't in our no no they do not very interesting since there's millions a year thank you i wondered um and is the air conditioning that was installed in city hall somehow a clean energy way of doing air conditioning or just the i don't know what fuel source that air conditioning uses if it's electricity then it would be carbon free because we do procure our power from our bay community power yeah i would love to know so i'll talk to another yes i can follow up on that with you sure thank you for your comments anyone else like to address the commission seeing none then i guess i'll say uh thank you for the update and for all the work congratulations on the awards i had one question is it a staff effort to develop the 2030 plan or is that what are the processes there staff will be leading that effort there will be a community advisory committee and it is anticipated that it will be budgeted for the first time we can actually hire a consultant to help us with that work you know one limitation on our energy planning and our fleet electrification is that we simply don't have the capacity and in some cases the tools to do the analytics that are required to look at this and set forth a path so i'm very excited about having a consultant come on board and help us with this effort so that is the plan that funding would be available july one of next year so we're anticipating you know we'll have someone selected by the end of the year and get started then and do you imagine you'll consider changing some of the metrics based on your data capture oh access challenges and oh yeah absolutely yeah everything will be opened up all of the goals the strategies and so forth yeah i'm anticipating it could be quite different commissioner shifrin did you have another comment or i just wanted to echo what you said in terms of thanking the staff for a very impressive range of programs and very pleased to see that the outcomes are annotative and being tracked over time thank you yeah i'll just um say that you know we're asking the public no one's gonna fix this challenge and we're asking the public to do a lot and it's nice it's inspiring and appropriate i think that the city itself demonstrates leadership and sets an example for what folks can do so thanks for leading that tiffani yeah absolutely and i have to give a big shout out we have a lot of advocacy groups in this town who are doing that very crucial important work and you know we we can't really you know as a one person show i can't really be everywhere all the time so i gotta give a lot of props to those folks who are given their time to do that kind of work okay keep it up yeah thank you so the next agenda i didn't ask staff if this was okay we move are you good with that mic move you've made three people very happy so we're gonna we're gonna move to if you're looking at agenda item number five will now be number three so it's the brook avenue right away adjacent to 118 brook street and we have a staff rep in a staff presentation welcome um um so this is a vacation of a triangular shaped section of right of way it is about a nine square feet um i think i'll just show you the pictures this is pretty straightforward so this is a picture of brook street from the corner of brooks and forbes you can see it's well you can't tell but it's a one-way street it's fully built out public works doesn't have any intentions of trying to widen it most of the right of way is out in the pilkington creek the center line this is the end of the road if you've ever driven down there it's pretty slow moving one-way road the houses are all very close to the edge of the right of way this is a close-up of the first three homes they're all about 18 inches from the original right of way the house in question is this third one and it's this little sliver of the house that's hanging over into the public right of way same with the deck up above same with the next door neighbor up above so this is the original subdivision map you can see the three lots are pretty standard the tax assessor has been taxing them based on that rectangular shaped lot probably to this day and then the applicant came in with a set of plans for a remodel in July and it included this survey and so the survey was a little disturbing there's a note on the survey that referred to a deed that had been recorded I think it was in 1906 where the city asked for you can see this dashed line was the old edge of the right of way and for whatever reason and and I can't figure it out public works didn't know they asked for this line to change to here so the the item in front of you tonight is to abandon that nine square feet of right of way what it will do is put that house on private property it won't have the corner of the house on public property the applicant can't do an addition to the house unless it's all on their property any future addition that they do is going to require a coastal permit and a design permit for the substandard lot findings we also when you do an abandonment we have to do the advertising according to state law so we did our regular postcards 300 feet 14 days ahead of time then it's got to be posted in the newspaper two weeks in a row and it has to be posted on site and I haven't had a phone call or any email no questions about it at all that's it we're recommending that you recommend the city council to approve this vacation of right of way and approve the coastal permit and I've got the coastal permit findings attached to the draft resolution you have any questions and the applicants here shall we have them address the commission first if they want invite the applicant to address the commission welcome Matthew Thompson representing Sherry Busby the owner the only things that I would add really is that the fact that in 1906 there was this boundary adjustment to change the alignment for the public right of way it doesn't seem to have ever actually found its way into the surveyor's office or into the assessor's office so if you look at the county's base map at their GIS office it still shows it as its original rectangular shape the assessors never take into account the 1906 change so they've been all the owners over the years have been paying taxes on the rectangular shape not the portion that was changed so in a sense what we're just asking the commission to do is recognize that what's just been understood by everybody except our surveyor who perhaps worked a little too hard and found a deed change back in 1906 and it just is I think good government to make sure that our houses are actually sitting on the property that they have always assumed they owned and this doesn't have any effect on the alignment of the road ironically Sherry Busby's house has the largest setback to the back of the curb of any of the houses along this block so there aren't any other houses along the block where you could park a truck between the house and the back of the curb so I don't see any public pejorative part of you doing this little bit of housekeeping and and making sure that her house sits on her land thanks thank you any questions for staff or the applicant from commissioners who's a staff recommendation we should open we're going to open it up to public comment first oh I'm sorry I thought so how I don't think there's going to be a lot well we'll we'll see so we will open it up for public comment open the public hearing and invite anyone to address the commission before we make a decision on this seeing none then I would invite a motion to so moved this staff recommendation second any discussion all in favor hi hi all opposed emotion passes unanimously thank you commissioners thank you and now we're on the original item three that was five and now we're back to three so this is the consent agenda and commissioner shifrin are you are you intending to pull this then yes I think so because it's at the the item that was mailed out late is at odds with the item that we got earlier so I think we should sort of make sure we're all talking about the same set of guidelines okay so I just get some clarification on that so you're saying that so you we're first going to correct the minutes to match the way you recommended it yes and then we'll move on to that's already been done we move the minutes as corrected and so now you're moving on to okay talking about what seems to be a revised set of guidelines like somewhat revised set of guidelines from the staff that are different from what was at the last meeting so go ahead do you want to launch into what issues you have with that or the changes that surprised you actually pretty minor changes on the first page where it says under the public speaking it was for the public to understand the procedures says please contact that prior to the meeting if you have questions about the agenda the public input period then it says it's best used to present your views on an issue it sort of implies that it could be used in some other way and so I think it would be a little bit clearer to just say the public input period is the time to present your views on on the issue that just sort of makes it a little bit clearer about what the expectation is and then I do think at the bottom of I interrupt you for a second I want to make sure I'm following you say again you'd like it to say what instead where the public input period is the time to present your views on an issue as opposed to the best use is best used to present your views I think that just sort of clarifies it a little in terms of I didn't really understand it sort of opened up the possibility that you might use it poorly so I'm not sure it's happened yeah I'm sure it has but I think to be on a more positive side is to say that's the time to tell us what you think okay and then also again it doesn't the proposed changes don't include the sentence about signing in that seems to be completely eliminated from this this rendition and so I think it's I think it's since we do want to encourage people to sign in for the record putting that sentence which was under oral communications last time and the sentence was speakers may sign the sheet placed near the speaker stand so that their name may be accurately recorded in the meeting minutes I think that sentence should be after the the paragraph that starts prepare your comments beforehand for the most sufficient use of your time so I the guidelines to me read as part part of the sections are sections of the agenda and part of the sections are this addresses to you as an individual or this address to a group and the time the signing in thing is under individuals so if I'm an individual and I read that section then it may be a fact what you're wishing for you see that the recommendation to sign is in is under individuals would that satisfy what you're wishing for below oral communications addressing the commission during all coming audible tone for the record oh okay right that's fine you think that works I missed that yeah although I would point out that in that paragraph it says all remarks shall be addressed to the council as a whole and that should be commission and then the only other suggestion that I would make that's kind of a little more substantive is at the top of the page two where it says what's crossed out as a maximum of 15 minutes total may be set aside and what we said last time was that the find it right now but what it says here is that the presiding officer may set the time limit then it says generally 15 minutes total for members of the public I don't have any problem with the presiding officer setting the time limit but I'm I just think saying generally 15 minutes if we have a lot of people in the audience it's going to take more than 15 minutes and I just think it's enough to say the presiding officer can set the amount of time and whatever that is would depend on how many people are there how many people want to speak and just it just seems 15 minutes just doesn't it seems like if there were five people that's going to be at three minutes each that that would be the end of the time period and it could be more so I just like to leave it or vague which is what was approved last at the last meeting commissioners will remember I think up to the discretion of the chair I mean I read that as generally 15 minutes it almost sounds like it should be about 15 minutes each Commissioner Conway you have a take on it I'm getting nods from folks but not from you just just that I don't have a strong feeling about it I mean the key point is that the presiding officer can set a time limit if needed but this is for oral communications for items that are not on the agenda so a guideline of how much time will be spent on that prior to getting to the actual agenda kind of makes some sense to me it's not carved in stone and you know we don't we don't get a lot of public comment on items not on the agenda so I didn't I didn't mind that I'm having a suggestion of how much time is spent on that since we often do spend a great deal of time on public comment for items that are on the agenda I um I thought I read it as vague as well and I thought it would be helpful for a junior chair because sometimes you wonder how long should I give for this and stuff like that but you um commissioner shifrin do you want to um I think you've got mostly agreeable um suggestion how would you like it to read uh it's not a huge issue if the commissioners feel they want to leave a specific time in I just think if we do have a meeting where a lot of people show up and this is you know they read this they're going to say well the commission is going to try to cut us off and I don't think that's the intent of the commission so keeping it up to the presiding officer I think is a reasonable thing to do and I think that is a a better message for uh a new chair that in fact we're not we're not hoping to keep it to 15 minutes we want to keep it reasonable but we want to let people speak if they want to speak so it's that would be my preference but I don't feel strongly about it okay and other changes that you'll be well the no those there are other things I thought the staff was a little bit other changes to what we talked about last time but I'm fine with them and I'd be prepared to support when it's appropriate time the the guidelines as uh be formatted and changed by the staff with a change from his best use to the time um and changing the word council to commission and I would prefer to just take out the generally 15 minutes for all communications test you I didn't author this this was the the work of my um supervisor but uh she did talk to me about um the things that were inserted and these are excerpts from the city council handbook so it's not something that staff devised it's something that the city council has reviewed and adopted previously I think it's notated in quotations after each section of the things that were added uh whether or not it came from the city council handbook or the planning commission bylaws and those are things that have previously been adopted okay so did do you bring that up because you have concern with any of the slight amendments we've made or just fyi I just wanted to point out that I I believe the reason why those were added was for further clarification from existing documents that have previously been adopted by the city council right and if I may um part of it was to make it a little easier because this document references the city council handbook and so to avoid having to go back and forth and continue to reference what does it say in the handbook about these issues uh staff believe that it would make sense to go ahead and just put it in here and reference the handbook let me just say that the city council has issues with oral communication that we do not have exactly can miss your ship and have been I missed the meeting and I couldn't hear you in some when I watched it so I'll invite you to the city council's has issues with oral communications that I haven't been aware that the commission having and I think I don't know when the last time they were able to have 15 minutes of oral communication if you read their minutes the number of people who speak they'd have to give them about 10 seconds each so um I just think it's fine to just say the presiding office is going to set the time because that's what that's the way it's going to be any other comments uh questions um we'll invite the public to address the commission on this issue on this agenda item if you have any please come up and share them any comments seeing none then um I wanted to say that uh since I missed I missed the opportunity to discuss this a link like you all did last time I'm okay with the information item section being that it's okay that we can move on that but I hope we never do it and the reason I'm okay with it is because from a productivity and efficiency standpoint sometimes we're discussing something and we realize oh we can't move on this because um it's in the wrong section the wrong section it's in information items only instead of general business but I do think it's practiced that the um so I'm glad that it's we've got this because if we wanted to move something we can and make some progress but I do think it's practice and tradition that the public assumes things in the information item section won't get moved on if I read something listed in the information item section I think okay I'm gonna have another crack to go um if I could have my say and shape the decision on this so I hope I like this because it lets us move and doesn't tie our hands but I hope we use it pretty um sparingly and I don't really think it changes that much between the information item section and the general business so there's a little bit of an issue about that I just wanted to state for for consideration when we actually use it uh it's where you want to were you ready to make a motion I'd make a motion that we approve the proposed revised planning commission meeting guidelines changing the words on page one where it says it is best used to uh saying uh input input period the time is the time to present your views and then um changing the under individuals the word council to commission and then at the top of the page uh deleting the words generally 15 minutes total after the words the presiding officer may set the time limit second so we have a motion in a second any other discussion um all in favor hi hi hi hi um it passes unanimously seven zero so um thank you for staff helping us get towards that and good work I think by the commission well last week I asked that this come back on the consent agenda to see if everything was captured but I don't think it needs to come back anymore I think we're done with it moving on so moving on to the next agenda item is um general business and this is review of the this did come back from last time so this is the housing element and general plan annual report update and I watched um I'm gonna do something a little bit differently instead of invite staff to give a report because you were all here and I wasn't and so this tied and by laws say it comes back the item comes back um the way I benefited from watching your conversation you know like you all did got all the staff the information from staff staff report and attachments um watched your discussion public comment and your debate and saw you tie three so I think a really efficient way to do this is to um kind of step in as the tie-breaking vote and we could just vote and move right now but I don't want to truncate it too quickly um this is a continuation of the prior items so we wouldn't have to open it up to the public because the public has given has been given a chance to have their say on this but um sorry I the the agenda says can I let me finish because you might not disagree with where I'm going with it um so I don't think we have to do that but um we I think I will open it back up to the public and I think it's possible that some of you may have changed your vote but I'm just um teeing it up this way so that I think we can be efficient and not go over much of what the of discussion that we had last time um and I will open it up to the public um after we discuss it for a little bit. Commissioner Schiffern do you want to? Right I would just refer to what the agenda of agenda says which is under general business review of the 2018 housing element in general plan annual reports as submitted to the state department of housing community development and consideration of when the general plan corridor and golf club drive area policies will be placed on a future planning agenda it does not specify that we're simply going to vote on if I was a member of the public who wasn't here I would think that this was a time when the commission could talk about the consideration of when the corridor general plan corridor and golf club drive area plan policies would be placed on a future agenda so I think it's pretty clear that we can talk about the everything that's in this uh stated in the presentation. We can and I understood the staff report to say we're going to bring it back to you in July most likely that's not a date certain and so that's what we have we have a proposal by staff to tell us when they'll bring it and I observed all of you discuss whether it should be date certain or whether it should be the very next meeting and you were split on that. Well from my perspective if I could say what all I wanted to do since at the last meeting the corridor the general plan corridor and the golf club drive area policies were not even listed so we really couldn't talk about them at all what I wanted was to just have them agendized so we could talk about them and I don't have a problem with the staff recommendation when they're going to work on it but I just think this is an opportunity where we can do what the city council asked us to do which is policies and talk about them ourselves what we decide to do about them I think the commission could just decide to do with the staff is recommending I have my I have a recommendation I'd like to talk about to the commission that is a little bit different from that but I think the public can tell us what they want and we can decide what the commission wants to do but my only concern last time is to was to act and be able to act consistent with what the city council asked us to do which was review these policies and that's that reason why I'm fine to send my motion from last time is because it's the goal of the motion has been achieved I wanted to get these mentioned in the policies mentioned in the agenda I mentioned in the agenda that means we can talk about them under the Brown Act so to my mind approving the motion or denying the motion or voting on the motion isn't really what's relevant what's relevant is that what's before us is an agenda item that allows us to have some discussion about these policies that the city council asked us to review but staff have not prepared us with any materials to discuss these so we can discuss it but we should I as chair I think we should discuss it when staff has informed us with their staff report it would and so they've said what they'll give us they've said when they're prepared to give us information to have that discussion is in July so I'm not sure why we would have a discussion absent staff input on it because well you know the council asked us to review it we can talk about it your your approach is one approach what my suggestion is going to be is given the situation with the quarter plan and the inconsistency between that has been talked about a good deal between the general plan policies and the zoning ordinance policies it would make sense to ask the council to give some guidance to staff when they bring this forward to be responding to that guidance and in terms of the golf club drive since the general plan calls for of an area plan to ask the city council to initiate the area plan so I'm I don't I agree completely that it's not appropriate to be taking action on the policies at this point because we don't have staff analysis we don't have staff recommendation I what you got tonight in which I sent the staff a couple of days ago was my own you know so review of the general plan in terms of of corridor policies in my zoning ordinance so that I could understand why I'm keep hearing that is this inconsistency I didn't really know what it meant now I think I have a better idea of what it means and I do think it makes sense given that there are these differences between the zoning ordinance a request that the council provide some guidance to the staff so that when they bring it back they have some indication of where the city council is coming from Mr. Chair may I jump in so I just want the commission to be careful because what is agendized is a conversation about when the items will be placed on the agenda not the items themselves and the staff report is focused on the housing element as well as the former motion that was made so I think to be compliant with the Brown Act we need to be very careful about how we talk about these items and try to stick to the motion that was made previously and the housing element annual report and general plan annual report if you had any further questions on those so what I'd like to do is potentially move us I think we we have a staff recommendation that is a and b and I think we've got really clear consensus I believe anyway on a that all we're doing is receiving the report and I will open that up to public comment but what I'm going to suggest is that we do that and then close public comment and then vote on that and move along and then wrestle with b how's that sound okay so we have the commission is really all we're doing is receiving a report from staff council has already received this you if you were here last time you may have heard that some commissioners wish that the sequence would be that the commission received the report and then it goes to council but staff has to submit these numbers to the state and they've done so and they've told city council about that and last time they told this commission about that so all we're doing is receiving that if you would like to address us on either the golf club drive or the general plan corridor zoning alignment effort or the housing annual report please address the commission come up and do that now please you can line up on the right side please give everyone three minutes and please sign in and as you come to the lectern address please as you address the commission state your name if you're willing and we are not going to talk about the golf club drive plan we're going to talk about when we will talk about the golf club drive area plan and we're going to talk about when we will talk about the general plan and zoning ordinance alignment that's how the agenda reads yes my name is alan holbert and you should have received an email but on the off chance that you didn't print it and bring it with you i have copies coming around i want to particularly look at the final paragraph of this short letter and we're interested in getting the planning commission to recommend to the city council that they forward guidance for the commission and the staff in terms of what's going on with the corridors plan so-called it's unclear it's supposed to be on the back burner but apparently it's moving forward at this point to one of the front burners and so we'd like to get clarity on where that is and so if the commission is so inclined they could forward the information to the city council and ask them for advice and guidance in terms of where the corridor's plan is currently going so that's really what our request is thanks thank you hi i'm lisa rose um some of you may remember me i came here a couple weeks go to um on behalf of common roots farm um formerly coast of noa commons farm greg you're new to this site we're here um even though we've changed our name our mission is still the same we're a non-profit organic urban farm of golf drive um where people with disabilities and without disabilities grow healthy food and beautiful flowers and build community um we are in a long-term lease with our landlords because our mission and vision is very compatible with the goals of our landlord um i explained a little bit of the growth that we've had in the last six months to a year um we are in our second year production uh with our farm vegetables and fruits and flowers and hydroponic farming in our greenhouse we have hired our first paid intern who has disabilities um karson and he helps out with our chickens and our eggs and because we are a farm dealing with people with disabilities we've hired our first um inclusion specialist so she is working with everybody all the farmers and the volunteers to make sure that everyone can participate fully on our farm and we're lucky to uh and welcome uh santa cruz city schools workability students to get them out on the farm and train them uh for their pre um employment education so a lot of growth and we really want to continue and expand what we're doing again our second year of our farm stand and we're debuting uh our first year of our community supported agriculture and we're starting to have some outreach projects with the tannery and arts council at their mother's day art fair and um a first friday ebb and flow where we bring out our portable uh greenhouse and show people what we're doing anyway so it's on behalf of our board of directors that i would um like to request that the city uh start the the area plan and do so in an open and transparent way um i really feel that we at common roots farm are going to be um a resource a very valuable resource for the community for years to come so thank you very much for listening thank you for your comments evening my name is john swift i'm a property owner out in the gulfwood drive area and um given a limited focus of the discussion tonight i'm going to advocate for a july hearing so that staff can thoroughly give you advice and input on the air quarter plan and the area plan uh very involved in the quarter plan in the years past i was on the committee so a lot of uh vetting of that plan occurred a lot of discussion and i certainly hope that we don't move in a direction of down zoning that quarter i hope we recognize the incredible housing demand that we have now only not only demand but also the problem the crisis of course uh we need that density and i hope that we don't go in the opposite direction likewise in golf club drive the area planned took i'm not the area plan with the general plan 23 general plan took 12 years to develop after hundreds of neighborhood meetings and public meetings uh the decision was made that that's a reasonable place for a sizable amount of density that will have an impact set significant impact on our housing supply so i hope that we don't move in the wrong direction but i am all for the city council having a discussion about moving that area plan forward i think it's time and i think the housing need is so sufficient and so severe so significant and so severe that it would be a mistake to delay it any further and we're going to see where people stand on the housing issue are they really talking about housing but not approving housing which seems to be the modus operandi of the current some of the current council members i mean that's that's a problem and that's not getting us in the direction of where the general plan talks about and all the rhetoric that has talked about this housing crisis we consistently deny housing projects consistently make them difficult to approve expensive to develop i can go on and on and on it's just hot air rhetoric until we get serious do an area plan as andy suggests and i i commend him for stepping forward and suggesting that should move forward but i hope it goes in a direction of supporting housing and not the opposite direction of going back to creating a buffer to the buffer which we do not need the open space in poganip was established as a buffer to the urban core the urban center and we need to build to that in recognition of the housing crisis that we have to do otherwise would be totally irresponsible in my opinion humble opinion but who am i you guys are decision makers hope you make the right one thanks thank you for your comments welcome hello my name is i'm siroki uh and uh speaking about the quarter plan you all should just make it zoning go to it get done with uh and i'd like to point out that there's recently been some uh statewide legislation that's been passed that there's two things i like to highlight uh there's uh now uh long place that says that the housing accountability act uh applies even to projects that conform with the general plan and there's also uh statewide legislation that says that there may be no net loss of zoning capacity even if it's in the general plan so i just encourage you to uh yeah codify the general corridor plan into uh zoning code and uh move on thanks thank you for your comments welcome thank you i'm philippe habib probably too short for that thing philippe habib i'm uh also one of the landowners on golf club drive i represent a group of parents of young adults with developmental disabilities and our mission is to provide them as well as other members of our community with an affordable place to live as well as to support the rest of the community uh with uh common roots farm and to continue the over 125 years of history of farming and providing healthy food to santa cruz residents i would like to encourage the planning commission to ask the city council to provide guidance and a timeline for creation of an area plan for a golf club drive so that we can move forward with it and have some certainty about uh what will be happening to the street and we would like uh that plan to be city led and to uh happen in an open process that involves the community thank you thank you for your comments welcome my name is rebecca dorschel i grew up on golf club drive uh the poganyp was my backyard my whole life i still own the property on golf club drive i inherited from my mother two years ago um golf club drive has changed the housing needs in in santa cruz county and santa cruz city limits have changed the um i have a son-in-law that works for santa cruz pd he can't afford to buy a house there is no housing available and i do encourage the city to proceed with the area plan that we all worked on for years years my family's been bound by area plan and requirements for most of the 65 years my family's own that property and um i think it's time to move ahead and put it together a responsible area plan and makes makes something happen for the community that is going to help the community and people like my son-in-law my daughter who live in my house and so cal because they can't live anywhere else in santa cruz so i encourage you to proceed with that as soon as quickly as possible thank you for your comments this is the last chance to address the commission on this item if anyone else would like to thank you everyone for uh addressing the commission and i apologize for the confusion on what the agenda item is you're seeing some if not confusion maybe disagreement even amongst the commissioners on what this what's in what's agendized and what's not agendized whether we're talking about an item or talking about when we'll talk about an item so um thanks for enduring that uncertainty on uh um commissioner conway no i was just waiting for you to clarify how you intend to pursue yeah so i would invite it i don't think we need to go backwards we've received a report on the housing figures the annual report so i would i think it'd be clean if someone would suggest a motion on that i would move that we approve the recommendation a in our staff report to accept the report on the 2018 housing element in general plan annual reports as submitted to the department of housing and community development their second second okay there's a motion and a second is there any discussion all in favor hi hi passes unanimously um so that's uh 7 0 and now we can discuss item b would any commissioner like to i'd like to okay commissioner conway go ahead i'm sorry i i was actually gonna um move the staff recommendation okay is there a second there's a motion and a second is there discussion of the motion yes go ahead um i want to point out first that that motion is fine but it doesn't necessarily end the discussion of this item um i'm happy to rescind that motion since i all i wanted was to have this on the agenda but i want to point out that the agenda we have includes uh statement that that there is consideration of when the general plan corridor and golf club drive area plan policies will be placed on a future agenda so the staff made a record a couple of recommendations that's fine the commission can do them or not but in fact the commission doesn't isn't limited in talking about simply what the staff is recommended uh is recommending one way or the other we can talk about other related issues and um i think it's totally appropriate to talk about the whole notion of the timing of when these general plan policies are going to be considered and i as i said before i think as part of that it's totally legitimate to ask the city council to provide some guidance on those issues when do they want the city count do they want the commission to deal with them do they have guidance for how the commission should deal with them obviously from the testimony we have tonight these are controversial issues and which is one of the reasons why nothing's been done and i agree with speakers who seem unanimous that they want something done they might not agree on what they want done and we won't probably agree on what all agree on what should be done but there are um problems with um with the corridor policies and that corridor the general plan calls for a high density mixed use uh mixed use high density zone on soquel and water it doesn't appear in the in the zoning ordinance the zoning ordinance as i understand it is community commercial that needs to be dealt with and it's been put off uh i think i remember the general plan was approved in 2012 so i think that asking the council to um prioritize these they're going to be considering what their priority projects are as staff is mentioned they have a lot of they have a lot on their plate i think it's legitimate for the commission to ask the council what how what kind of a priority do they want to give to these uh two issues and what kind of guidance they might want to give to the commission and the staff in dealing with these issues i think that's uh completely consistent with what's on the um on the agenda what's just uh written in the agenda and you know i hope after action is taken on this motion which i would i'm not even sure we need to do the motion because i'm happy to rescind the the motion that i made last time because i think it's uh redundant it's unnecessary i think it's achieved its purpose sir conway i would like to say uh commissioner shifrin um first of all welcome to the planning commission i'm glad you're here um and you know you you are new i know you've been watching the process from afar so first of all of course you know that of course the zoning code is in inconsistent with the general plan there's a new the way the process works is those thousands of hours of meetings that you referenced around the general plan did occur there was a lot of participation a general plan was adopted and the next step in the process is to update the zoning code um that process was undertaken it is a tremendously complex process um we've had a number of people reference that i think some of us here were on both the committee as well as the planning commission hearing hundreds of hours of testimony um we actually had made a good deal of progress i would say other others may uh say the same thing in the evolution of that of that update um when work on it was stopped um but we do have to recognize how complex it is how important it is there isn't a way to take a shortcut around the process and end up with with where we're trying to go um so i appreciate that um you have some um you know your answer to get it going i think a lot of us are because we know it's important it's important to our community but i don't think it's helpful to um interrupt the process you know and stop it because they're you know the work that staff is doing and trying to stack it up so that's really my point on let's let them get to work on um on moving that forward um along the process that's my point whether commissioners have thoughts to share commissioner singleton i i largely agree with the sentiments of commissioner conway um you know i think the amount of work and staff time it takes to get all of that before us the amount of preparation it'll take to get that report before us and they've given us a rough timeline that i find satisfactory given the tremendous undertaking that it is so i'm comfortable with the the rough timeline that staff's been giving us and giving them the space to do their work and i'm confident that this commission will have ample opportunity to weigh in on these issues um very soon within the next couple months so turn else in um yeah i would i agree with uh i agree with all that as well and um i think the thing that i would add is is that we've heard from staff that they do have a a list of priorities and that have been dictated by city council and so if city council wants to change that priority list then they have the authority to do that and they can do that on their own i don't think we need to ask them for for some sort of guidance on on how they choose their priorities i think they choose them as they see fit and uh we should allow them to do that mr greenberg do you want to weigh in um i'm interested in hearing the discussion and makes sense to me um and you know i i realize that there is this as i said last time this kind of urgency um around projects that have been put on the staff's plate um around homelessness and the and the rental task force um and i wonder you know given that there's a new commission and i'm new to this i mean a new council excuse me and given i'm new to this commission what the what happens when there's a new council that comes in and they're kind of coming in midstream to a timeline and is there usually communication that goes on between the commission and the council along those lines i you know i i don't know but it sounds like so with with what's been said about they they should know what their priorities are so yeah vice chair spellman do you want to weigh in yeah um yeah it has been no small undertaking the work and progress that we did make on the corridors plan and it's been dormant now for over a year right so we were making progress but we were nowhere near you know the end of that process and i agree with with the the general sentiment here that it's going to happen sounds like shortly um the only caveat i would make is i think we've had few opportunities to be proactive in in how we make suggestions to council and i think there is some consensus about let's move these things along let's at least communicate that hey we'd like to do the work why don't we do it so from that perspective i think it makes sense to make that recommendation mr shifrin i think i appreciate hearing the immense amount of work that went into producing the general plan and but i think it's important to remember that why the the council put the the zoning ordinance amendments on hold because that's essentially what happened there was a process moving forward to amend the zoning ordinance so it would be consistent with the general plan and the council and this was before the election the council said we're gonna not do this at this time why did that happen it happened because there was a upsurge of community opposition to the way the what the the extent of what those policies were and reading them over i can i've started to understand why that was the case it is there they they are a major change whether that's the desirable change or not the fact of the matter is that the the city council has not been willing to push forward with you know simply implementing those policies in the general plan and that's why i think it's important as we wait for the staff to be ready to bring us a full discussion of them that the council provides some guidance because if we're going to spend a bunch of time restating what's already been stated and the city council isn't going to like it we're just going to be wasting our time i think it's important for the council to sort of give some guidance on how do they do they do they want the zoning ordinance to simply reflect what the policies are in the general plan or do they want to see some changes in the general plan policies that would bring the zoning ordinance and the general plan into consistency it might not be exactly the way the general plan reads now but i think before you know we're the the the process was put on hold because there was significant public opposition to those policies i think it's important to recognize that and one of the ways of recognizing it is to ask the city council to provide some guidance to the to the staff and to let us know if there is a sentiment up there what that sentiment is so that can be also part of the consideration so that we don't we don't end up spending spinning our wheels here when it finally does come to it to us i don't have any problem with the timing i understand that the staff is busy i understand that the city council makes the priorities that's you know that's clear to me anyway what i'm concerned about is what we're going to get when we get it and why and the hope that what we're able to be responding to and produce is going to ultimately get implemented so that we can remove this inconsistency between the general zoning ordinance because i think it is a real problem we've heard unanimously that whether people want a lot of development in golf club drive or they don't want a lot of development golf club drive they want the the area plan to to be started and so you know sending a recommendation to the council to initiate the process that doesn't tell staff that they have to do it today up to tomorrow but there is a formal action to initiate a general plan amendment and i think that's what the the public testimony we had is suggesting and i think that's that's a reasonable request to ask of the council because in terms of the timing nothing's going to be done on an area plan until that the initiation of the area plan which is essentially a general plan amendment is acted on so commissure chiffon are you are you rescinding your motion yes you are okay so we had a motion in a second i don't know who seconded it but hopefully they'd have to receive it as well well it's so what's on the table is the staff recommendation right that's the motion on the floor now so we can actually i think maybe your motion can't be rescinded but we can we can vote on you want go ahead i just wanted to make a clarification so it is not my opinion at all that the reason why the corridor planning was stopped was because of opposition by the public to that that is far from the case there's certainly portions of the public who were opposed to certain policies but that is not the reason why we stopped doing our work we stopped doing our work because of the housing emergency and the focus that went on to that issue so any idea that it was because of opposition to what the corridor plan was heading towards is is not an accurate statement do that staff weigh in on this yeah so um i think that's a very fair point there was a lot of eyes on housing at the time and so what the council chose to do was to put a pause on the corridor's work and focus on the 2017 housing voices outreach that's the outreach that took us through where when then mayor synthia chase was doing her outreach we had a lot of community discourse going to the community getting feedback on what the community felt the issues were with housing that's those 99 recommendations that came forward then out of that report in 2017 from that then council decided to form a housing blueprint subcommittee that would find a way to prioritize those recommendations and last june that was the housing blueprint subcommittee recommendations report that came out that had about 40 or so of those recommendations prioritized for staff to start to work on and that really has been what the bulk of the advanced planning teams work plan has been since june of last year and as i mentioned at the last meeting the corridor's item was one of the things that was queued up to start again but unfortunately we're still in a pretty dire situation when it comes to homelessness and some of the issues that weren't resolved when measure m failed and so what council has directed staff to do since then is unfortunately again put a hold on that and focus on some of these real critical issues that need to be triaged and then potentially pick back up on that again after these issues are moving through the pipeline so that's kind of where just to give some edification for the audience or the community as well as the planning commission kind of why things got stalled where they're at now and why we're having the conversation that we're having i want to chime in with my memory of the conversation which is this commission was extremely disappointed to have the corridors the corridors and the zoning ordinance alignment with the general plan but on hold and the assistant city manager came and i asked her you know she gave us that decision that that was that that was made and i asked her to whose decision it was she said it was the city manager's office now they report city council so maybe that was direction from council but that's what i'm recalling and i think we may disagree on what the outcome is but it does seem clear that everybody wants to get going on so it is i think it is a timing issue what we have is a staff recommendation that they bring this in in july and um an awareness highlight awareness that they have highlighted to us that council is going to do a six month plan so they're going to bring it to us in july unless council throws them a curveball and then it'll be whatever council tells them to do whatever the city manager tells them to do because they don't staff doesn't report to city council staff reports to their department heads and the department has to report to city manager so i think it is a timing thing we have heard from staff they're going to bring this in july so i think we should vote on this and and then we should i think we should send something to council if we want to ask for more direction on expediting anything it's a timing issue wait a minute that that's the opposite of the of the recommendations so i think we'd have to take first take action right okay so i'm i'm assuming where we might go and i shouldn't do that so i'm gonna actually everyone has as chair as presiding officer i can limit debate as long as everyone has spoken and everyone has spoken so we're gonna have we're gonna vote on the motion and um that the which is to rescind the prior motion deny it isn't to rescind us to deny thank you the motion is to deny the prior motion all in favor hi hi hi okay so that was that past unanimous lane that was clean does i would move that we support the staff recommendation to have the corridor plan return to the commission as soon as soon as it's ready that we recommend that the chairperson provide a letter to the city council asking them to provide direction on the corridor plan when it's being considered and to initiate an area plan for the golf club drive area can i clarify that motion uh commissioner shifrin were you saying that the letter to council should ask for clarification on when both of those will happen no okay it was to ask for to ask them to provide guidance on the mr shifrin can you use your mic please to provide guidance on the the work for the that's being done on the uh corridor plan policies and to initiate the area plan for the golf club drive area there a second well we won't discuss a motion that doesn't have a second but if there's a second we'll discuss it and if there's none of if there's not a second then we'll stare at each other until someone has another motion that that is offers a path forward we actually we don't have to do anything so is is there a second there's not a second on this so this motion fails is there another i'm actually be done with his agenda yeah i mean i i agree i don't think we have to do anything more and but i do think we are all in agreement that we're very eager to pick up these policies and start actually talking about the policies instead of talking about talking about the policies right right okay so thank you all for that thank you staff um and let's see we did two then five then three then four and that's all i would like the uh minutes to reflect the motion you had the motion as stated for the minutes yeah okay then um the next agenda item is information items yes um let me pull them up on my phone one moment um okay uh hang on just a second i keep going backwards um right so uh first off uh the department presentation that we gave uh to city council at the last meeting in terms of the budget and kind of where we're at with a lot of our stuff is available for viewing so that might be something that uh any of the commissioners might be interested in looking at uh in bigger news i wanted to let you know that our assistant director alex corey has announced his resi are not resignation his retirement which is a really big deal he's been in the field for 40 years and with the city for 19 so um this will be a big loss we're really really happy for him and excited for him in his next venture but it will be a really big loss for the city um just never mind institutional knowledge but you know personality and just all of the fun that he brings to work every day so um we did want to let you know that uh his last day is i believe june fourth however he does have some vacation saved up so he'll be leaving uh the city city hall offices as a regular you know being there every day uh mid may i believe it's may 17th they're gonna be an event um i'm sure there will be an event and we can make sure that the planning commission knows when that event is so that you can join us great thank you thank you any other information items no and um any subcommittee or advisory body oral reports yes the west cliff drive adaptation technical advisory committee at its first meeting out on west cliff and wandered around from one location to the other uh the the intention has stayed to step by staff was to have quarterly meetings um after reviewing the scope of work for there are actually two studies that are being done one is the adaptation uh study for the cliffs and then the other is a beach um sea level rise study that's really more related to the coastal commission concerns about local coastal program amendments how that's all going to be coordinated it's a little unclear to me and the the scope of work has various tasks that need to be done and i intend to contact the staff to see whether it might make more sense to have the task force the technical advisory committee meet around the uh when the deliverables come out that for these various tasks if the if the intention is to have to tack play a meaningful role as opposed to just nodding when the staff and the consultants say this is what we want to do and who's on the tack there are a lot of people okay there are representatives from um approximate creation commission there are somebody from the coastal commissions on there there's all there's like 15 people on this tack i don't remember i'm sure we could get a list if they're just curious but it's very broad basis a realtor there's surfer there's people wearing numerous hats so and everybody's very concerned about west cliff drive so it's going to be a difficult challenging problem but it's going to be interesting as well the better days thanks for being on that tack any other advisory body oral reports no there aren't any other standing subcommittees so with that we'll adjourn the meeting thank you