 Then he says down the bottom of the memorandum that words feel that we ought to go in and have taft hardly in the beginning. Now, I rather feel that we would be foolish to wait ten days and let all this slush fund organize and let labor come in and let them have their meeting and raise five million dollars to get the line thrown. Everybody matters hell. The public worked up and all the labor unions passed resolution and locals and then come in and say we're going to invoke taft hardly if we're going to invoke it because we got to have it to the war we got to have it for the war period and that comes first and we're going to do the only thing we need to do that's invoke it now but we got to have labor to agree that they won't make us come back in December the 20th we can come back the first of the year as soon as Congress gets back here anyway and in the meantime we can get our best experts look at and I think I just have to tell General Electric Goddammit you've got to behave a little bit and give a little bit. Goldberg said that one time at Hanford back there sometime a candidate told the Labor Department today I had to tell General Electric that you just can't be a good contractor for a good government without ever listening butch in an inch and said they did move a little and that he didn't think they'd ever move but they did in this instance in 80 days we might get them to move. In any event I said to Meany yesterday that McNamara said he couldn't go but a week ten days and Meany seemed to understand it and I rather believe Meany and them would feel no more better towards us if we went before they had all this organization and afterwards I wanted to see what was behind your suggestion that we'd go before. Just exactly the things that you mentioned. Would you take would you then protect your bases with Reynolds and see what he did about to see if they'll give a little bit we don't think they will and if they won't we can you can tell Meany that she tried one more time pursuant to my instructions to make General Electric move that they wouldn't move. She got to have helicopters and some of them say five days some say a week some say ten days but if he gets in his crowd gets all worked up here and then the President moves in why it'd be bad for the elections and make it look bad and if we got a law we ought to use it to either use it or not use it and that we can't do it though if we have to call all Congress back and go have a strike on December the 20th that they got to go over till the 3rd or 4th whenever they come back here in January another ten days and we will put this ten days on the first strike on that now instead of the last strike but he's got to make that union go go give us an extension so we can have for January and I'm gonna tell Mike to go on and get his half savings right I'm gonna tell Nick Katz back and maybe we ought to meet over here about I don't guess I don't want to run your day but you either have somebody here if you do you have troubles 11 11 o'clock and that would be all right don't don't mess up your day you just have me all I want to be sure how far as you're concerned hey this is your recommendation is as califano recommends it is that right that there was I want to add one thing I've been talking with Jim Reynolds this morning about it and I've got to check out one other possibility he says he thinks there's some reason to believe that the labor people if we gave them a very short two or three days of strike might then voluntarily come back at our request either on an across either on an all-plant basis or on a on a selective basis I find that they do that in response to an appeal to their patriotism and so on and so forth I'd want to review this position as the push was mine as of last night what would you think of that I'd be guide by your judge you haven't been wrong any time and I know of and I just carefully thank you to over and and I read the other arguments and I've talked to Mackamara this morning he he thinks that we ought to preserve collective bargaining for two weeks but I don't think Mimi really thinks that and I don't really think that I'd thank you and I think your argument is a lot better than Mackamara in California and I think Bob thinks so when I tell him he said well I that's side I hadn't looked at what I say is this that the the president of the United States has one consideration that is there's a war on and soldiers can't be denied when there is a war on make a damn who it is now we sorry general electric won't move and we're sorry we have to have a strike but if we're gonna have to have one I can't tolerate one right and the only law available to me is to talk to me and the war efforts got to go on and the soldiers I can't let a soldier say out here he won't fight I can't let the these boys down here that burn up a draft court I sent him jail and I can't say that this so I just got to use this then he says that I've got to find somewhere in 80 days to hit general electric quietly a little bit where they'll give some who says that I think well I agree to that that's what for me he says that if they move a little yesterday that's all I think I said it's their pride and said I'm not gonna let him down I'm gonna put five million in it if they buy as much as they do for us we can't get to do raise one little finger well then we can put them out of business their sons of bitches anyway that's right and it's just it's one of the few cases I've ever run into where it was a priority is a matter of principal instead of a matter of money would you look at it with with the Reynolds and your fall and I will tell the attorney general to start preparing on it then I will have a meeting and say would it be better what time would be better at 11 I've got a meeting at 11 30 could be 1145 would that be better for any representative of Labor Department oh well that gives you a little high if it's all right for Jim yes all right 1145 it is could I have you one minute on the appropriation for the poverty they can adjust to a car as to whether you have have been in that to the point that I should my point no my point is this all I've been in it is this I told them that the budget we sent up before I stood behind what I recommended what I believe in the the people on the hill off the record know that I feel very kindly toward the neighborhood youth and I don't get upset when they recognize what it's done I've submitted my budget I don't want to go beyond that budget on this or anything else I can't consistently when I'm cutting three billion out of it I don't want to go beyond that I requested whether within it we should we're free to reshuffle well I let them reshuffle up on the hill without fussing about it now is there something contemplated what what's happened is the Senate reshuffling you out of it no oh no I've got nothing to lose and the fact of having something to gain is the principal thing I think if we really want to stay within the billion seven the way to do it is to do some reshuffling and that if we don't do that reshuffling then whether the other of them is going to carry us above it the Senate will carry us above it you see what I mean I think we by doing a little reshuffling I could I could get pretty complete concurrence with with the I won't fuss at what you do matter of fact if you want to know my whole feeling in a very short time I would rather you and some of these folks handle things than some of the other things that take place around here and I have I have got it I've got commitments of the house people they'll stay by the house figure I don't know what the Senate will do I would guess that they might run way over it yet because they just won't meet impound it and that makes it embarrassing or socially conscious president to hold up any poverty funds this is exactly all the product frankly it's between 300 million and 496 and neighborhood youth or that's a secondary matter my point is this president I think the one way to get them all to stay within the billion seven is to do enough shuffling around within it that we can satisfy the demands of those who want to go on up when we try to do whatever you think's wise without saying the president ordered this so I can say what you just do what you think's best in the general interest without getting me involved without forcing me into it because I have to deny it but I'm far my budget as it went up and I'm going to stand on it and I'm not going to go above the billion seven fifty I gave them 250 million and I'll give them twice that much if I get out of Vietnam but I can't deny a soldier and it's hell for me to carry on both them if I can if I can try to get some reshuffling within it meaning I think might give you a little support he told me last night that he didn't think we ought to go wild on education and poverty right now because we'd run it all and we're going to have a backlash on that that's going to be worse than the backlash on the negroth we're not awfully careful because they're telling me that got it and I think that actually other day on maximum feasible participation but a house was a mistake for this very reason and you know they killed it one time the house did and they'll kill it again you see a bill yesterday I had 11 governors do you know you know how many governors that group before this administration won and you know who was Nelson Rockwell the other 10 were just up in the arm just goddamn fella from Florida who got beat he was just raising ale about minimum wages the next thing is raising ale about something else South Dakota was raising ale about inflation through minimum wages and hurting the farmer others were raising ale about labor union then the negra question and the poll Johnson is the most reasonable man there for Mississippi the only guy that really stood up and said well we can do both and we've got to do both and we've got to have Social Security in this country and we've got this Nelson Rockwell the other 10 I would have to put against me and that was real frightening now Bobby and Teddy and Wayne Morris don't understand that and maybe they're a whole lot more popular in the country than we are but I know this I know we're gonna have a Republican governor in Georgia we're gonna have a Republican governor in Alabama we're gonna likely hear Wallace be just as bad we're gonna have a Republican governor already got one really in Louisiana we're gonna have a Republican governor in Georgia there's Georgia Florida Alabama Louisiana and I don't know how poor Johnson can stand up to he told me yesterday he got 70 letters a day threatening to kill him and he called Nick cats back today before and told Nick and he just wanted to tell Nick he's awfully grateful for the way he handled Mississippi and then they catch back there they beached down but thank you