 The anointed candidate of the former governor Ayodele Faioche wins the state PDP primaries. And how can we inspire the youths to contribute to the running of the country? This is plus politics and I am Justin Acadone, a B.C. color lead the preferred candidate of former governor of Akita state. Ayodele Faioche emerged the candidate for the People's Democratic Party. In the upcoming poll after winning the party's primaries, Kolaouale pulled 671 votes to defeat his close rival from a governor, Shagwoni, who got 330 votes out of a total of 1,200 delegates that participated in the primary. Out of which 1,185 votes were cast. As for the other candidate, former member of the House of Representatives, Anwabu Wali, Aribi Shala, scored 56 votes from a deputy governor, Kolakbo Eleka, 93, Ayodele Kazim, 6, while Kairate Adyamudu scored 10 votes. Joining us now to discuss the events that took place during the primaries is Larry Olayankahi, he is the director of media and publicity of the B.C. Kolaouale campaign organization. Good evening to you, Larry. Many thanks for joining us and plus politics. Yes, so just run us through how the whole process went yesterday. Was it really peaceful? If you all saw it, it was streamed live, it was shown on, it was televised live on TV, you all saw a free fair and credible process. If we have, if we have a conducting election like that in Nigeria, there won't be a crisis, but the process was free, it was fair. And every other, all the aspirants admitted that the process was free and fair and credible, transparent. All right, but still yesterday we had reports of, you know, folks that were allegedly arrested, who were trying to maybe mark the process of the primaries yesterday. Can you feel us Ed? Well, we had the soldiers at Tauré, Tauré Stoke from Hala'i Junction at around 3 AM, B.C.D. Arrested over 150 people, who were coming to Eqiti. And the weapons were found on them, guns, they guns, cutlassies, knives, charms and all that. And they were arrested by soldiers. And yesterday morning, like 9, 10 AM, the information we had was that they were taken to a courier that's, they were taken to the military park and that's the farm, that is how far that I am, how else. All right, fine. Let's talk more concerning the primaries. Would you say that all of the issues that were pending, you know, before now, you know, were resolved before all the aspirants, you know, went into the primaries for yesterday? In life, you cannot resolve all the issues. You cannot finish the resolve. In politics, there will always be issues. The ones that are pending, the ones that are there, you resolve them. That's why I resolved and all the other issues that are coming up. The most important thing is for you to have a process that, that helped, that, like, 1980, 90% were set. The issues were resolved to some extent. I am aware that some people made the complaint about the adult congress, the adult generalist thing. And the stakeholder meeting was held in Nabuja of Monday. And it was the consensus for the stakeholder that the adult delegate congress should be, should be cancelled. And the party agreed and cancelled it. And it was also a consensus from the stakeholders that a system delegate, that that's five, five, five word esco in one of five words out of one, seven, 18 local government esco and the state esco should be used, including automatic delegates. That's what the stakeholder agreed. And that, that's what was done yesterday. Okay. So how did the parties go, how did it go about arriving at these automatic delegates to aspirants? You don't, you don't arrive at automatic delegates. They are people who are designated like former governors. They are, former governors, it's not a, they are not people that you begin to, you begin to shop for. They are known, former governors, former deputy governor, former governors you can debate, former deputy governor can say, the former House of Rep members, former House of Reps, former senators, former, former National Assembly candidates, former House of Assembly candidates of House of Assembly members, principal officers. Those are the people that are designated as automatic candidates. The one that are called statutes that delegates are five esco from the world, that is the world chairman, five chairman, secretary, woman leader and youth leader. Then all the, there are 18 esco in the local government. Those ones are also are statutes with delegates. Then state esco, those are statutes with delegates. So they are not, they are, anybody, anybody who is a deputy member will be aware of this. All right. Would you say all of those who participated, the aspirants really are in, in a continent with the outcome of this, because there were reports specifically of alleged irregularities with the accreditation of delegates? You see, you see in every process in Africa, people who know that they are not going to be able to make it in that kind of arrangement, they will start by making an indication as, or founded, as so to say, because the people, the committee led by the acquireable state governor, the older man who came to conduct the congress, the congress, were given a list of delegates. They did not generate the delegates by themselves. They brought the list of delegates, including electoral materials from the national secretary at Abuja. So their own was to conduct the primary election, not to even, not to even remove or add to the delegates. But there were talks, there were, there were talks of them in that particular list and being doctored. How true? Can you substantiate on that? There's no, there's no how anybody with doctor edicts, because they did not generate the list. You cannot doctor what did not come from you. You cannot remove names from, it's just like, it's just like INEC, INEC voter register. And you now see that electoral officer at the polling unit, polling unit, polling post, polling, this, the stamp of INEC, will now, will now remove somebody's name from the voter register. It's not possible. That's not possible. All right, let's, let's just read out something, some, you know, deferring opinion here. One of the, you know, as aspirants that sent it to a bearded oligamy, you know, she pulled out of them the, the primaries and then she cited, you know, alleged irregularities. She said that she could not be a part of a political process that had excluded party delegates who are mainly her supporters, adding that the development runs against the tenets of participatory democracy. I needed to comment on that. Well, I, I, I think, I think you also need to go back to Scientology Mina, ask her, how were those people from a local government excluded? We had what Congress, what, what local government and state Congress is in 2020? It's going to do it as now. During, the day we had, we had what Congress? Materials for, if it's Eastern, going local government were hijacked. So the two local government were cancelled. Congress is not out there. Normally the Congress is not the government out to have, out to have been done again after. But unfortunately, although the mayor and the people went to court, they went to court, they tried the hands of the party. The party could not conduct Congress, Congress is the those two local government. And up to now, the matter went from lower court, epic court, is still against Supreme Court. So you don't expect the party to not go again. You are the one, you are the one who went to court. So if you go to court and you are now suffering, you are now suffering the consequence of your action, you cannot, you cannot go about blaming people. Then again, where there are no automatic delegates from those two local government, there are automatic delegates. So people from, actually voted. People from when you look at government, voted yesterday. But let me also tell you, it is like I told people today, it is a right to say she wants to contest. It is also a right to say she's no longer contested. In 2018, she bought form saying that she was going to contest. In the money of, in the money of the primary, she announced that she was no longer contested and she had stepped down. So yesterday too, she said she was no longer contested. So what happened yesterday was not the first time. So we are, we see somebody who, who I want to contest, I want to later say, you know the contest again. That is a right. And she said, she said that could wait. Or could it be that she believes that there is no credibility or that there's two pending issues and she could not really be part of it? Well, she was not the only aspirant. Other aspirants took part in the process. Other aspirants took part. So the credibility of the process cannot be determined by the eyes, by the opinion of one person. Other people took part. Other people, as I speak with you, Professor Leca has issued statement congratulating the winner. Caldera Modu has issued statement congratulating the winner. Others are also facing, before I came to this place, Tuba Yigakrele was with us to both mention with these people that he has come to say, okay, I'm part of, I'm part of this, the party must make an election. So people are already accepting, people have accepted what happened yesterday. All right, fine. People have accepted, but something really happened ahead of the election. One of the chief 10 in your party that Pastor Yemi Olayinka had actually urged the Iyacha Ayul led an APC working committee to rescue the party from jeopardy. That's what he said by conducting the primary would only super delegate. I really need you to comment on the issue of super delegate and how that in any way would actually had effect the chances of the party yesterday. Super delegate like I told you are people, former diss, former doubt, former committee members, former left members, former beauty, those are the ones that are cost per day. I think they are about 200 or they are about. But would you say that people who are, who are holding offices and by virtue of the office they are holding, they are trying to be a delegate to vote. Would you now say, oh, they should not be allowed to vote so that those who can now go to court to go and say they were not allowed to vote in this election and get the process done in fight. Out of emotion, out of sentiment, they come out with all kinds of suggestions because they feel that they were not comfortable with the, and why would you also say that? What else could, what else could, because my, my, my brother is, he's a, he's a good brother to me. But in some cases we allow political sentiment to be clouded as sense of reasoning. And that was, that was, that was the only reason somebody can express opinion that somebody who, somebody build a house, he owns a house but he should not be allowed to sleep, to sleep in the house because of something or something. The, the world escrow were elected. The people took them to court, lost at the lower court. They lost at the api court. So by virtue of that judgment of the api court, they are, they are validly elected escrow of BDP at world government and state level. And they should be allowed to enjoy the benefit of their, of the office that they occupy. If anybody is saying that they should not, they should not function and that person is not being fair to the party. All right Larry, let's talk more about the people's democratic party in AKT state. You will agree with me that it has, you know, been enmeshed with lots of bottlenecks even, you know, litigations, you know, for about three, four years since 2018. You know, how would you say the party really is doing in AKT state, judging by some of this, you know, what I call them, uh, frictions among chief tens. Is a conflict and conflict resolution is part of politics. Even, even among family members, they have conflict. Even, why, why, why sharing family, family inheritance? Who could go to court? So there are always the crisis, crisis will always be resolved. You should, we should also not, do not begin to sexualize issues. In ABC, that is a government inequity. Today they said they, they had their primary. We saw pictures, we saw videos of protest calling the governor, calling the governor, calling the state governor, the governor, all kinds of unpretentious names. So it is, it is everywhere. We have our own issues. We are resolving them. We have resolved them. The ones that will come up to them tomorrow will still resolve them. So I'm not going to say that we are perfect, that the, that the, even in, even in churches, they have been used to go to court, not, not to talk of a political party. So we are, we are all dry. We, and let me also tell you, when people are looking for power, all kinds of things happen. The moment you get the candidate, it is the duty of the party members to still be at the candidate and make sure that they, it is the party first. Now, some of us were with Bicycola Walei who was our aspirant. Now Bicycola Walei is a candidate. He's a candidate of BDB. Lera, are you still there? Yeah, I'm here with you. All right, fine. I still need to talk more about party primaries, you know, how it is conducted, you know, in Nigeria. You just mentioned about how the APC went with its own underwear, you know, scuffles among some party members, even talked about how they called them the, the governor, some unprintable names. Even yesterday, there was a little bit of some confusion, you know, why, some people pulling out, you know, from the primaries just yesterday. So if you were to talk about them, how we conduct them primaries in Nigeria, would you really say that we are actually headed in the right direction? What are we not really doing right? What have we failed to see? Let me, let me say this first and foremost. When, when, when they came with this issue of direct primaries, the National Assembly, why, why, why doing this Electoral Amendment and whatever that they, they, they, they made direct primary compulsory for, I was among those who, or those who kicked against it. Some of them, some of us were saying like, oh, because some, because some who do not really understand the rudiment of this, they don't understand the issues. They talk that, because we are afraid of facing the, the, the party people. Look at what happened in APC today. What happened is people, people who were, who were, who were to go to look government as Electoral Officers, those who were appointed in APC were non-supporters of one of the aspirants. It's just like as, as PDP was going to do primaries, was going to go, went to Electoral yesterday, imagine me, imagine somebody like myself, being part of the Electoral Committee. You should know that the process already skewed in support of somebody. Today, the, the, you, you only had, there was nothing like primary election. Then again, how can you do primary election without knowing the number of vote, voters, without knowing the vote was passed? Because that is the first thing to determine, an election that would be credible. When you're going to election, you must know the number of people you vote that to. Number of votes, what I expect. In that primary, you don't know, you don't even know the number of people you're going to vote. That is why in APC, the, the primary they will give you figures. In Cannaw, during the presidency, in 2008, 2008- JR, APC In that year 2019, in Lagos, Governor Sowol had 950 votes plus. 950,000 votes plus to win APC, APC, Governor Shiptid. How many voted in this case? That meaning that 950,000 plus APC members voted for him to imagine the candidate. But during the main election, we only had 750,000 votes plus. So what happened to those APC members that voted for him during their direct primary? So that direct primary to me is a fraud. And that is what PPP has maintained its stand on in direct primary. So in the day to day, we know the delegates that were coming to vote. So when we are representing them yesterday, we are now the number accredited. 1,087 or so, so I can't remember if he got up. So we know who number and who they are coming to vote on the direct primary. They will be here in the city, I'm serious. Larry, let's still just talk about, since you've mentioned about the credibility and some of the issues that happened during their primaries and not really knowing the exact number of people who are going to be delegates, there is an electoral act amendment right now. And that there was some back and forth as regards direct primaries, indirect primaries and of course consensus primaries as well, candidate studies. Do you really think or do you believe in this new amendment act? Do you really think we should actually address some of these bottlenecks that we have, the pre-election matters and of course election and post-election matters? One of the things I like in this amendment is one, electronic transfer of these laws. The moment you vote, you vote to be transferred from the polling unit to the final polling centre. The point that we select are rigged is between the vote, the polling unit and the vote. So if you look at the last election in Ambram, you also see that incident forms were not used for accreditation. And that is the moment INEH is able to take away the use of incident form for accreditation. If you want to vote, take your vote as card and I have to show INEH using bimodal appraisal process. Instead of the user card reader that they use, that will also reach free spaces to be able to identify that. Are you really the owner of the voter card? So apart from the issue of direct primaries that the National Assembly member decided is that to voice on Nigerian, because even the National Assembly could have injected that direct primary, they did so not for the interests of Nigerians. It was because the talks that by using direct primaries, they will be able to checkmate their state governments, who are like, state governments are like online labs in terms of party politics. But none of them. Direct primary is the ECS form of primary election for anybody to manipulate. So my concern is, I don't know, I don't know what President Buadiz is going to apply the signature to this new amendment. I hope that he's going to do that as soon as the claim copy of the bill that National Assembly members get to him. So that we don't have to begin to now put pressure on him, clamor, and beg him to sign again. Let him sign this. All right, Larry. Hello. Very quickly, very quickly. Of course, the president will definitely sign the amendment. But I just want to ask him very quickly, as we round off, we are completely out of time on this particular segment. Now, what are the chances of the PDP as they go to polls later this year in the AKT state? You see, the PDP is the predominant party in the AKT. And even the PDP is not ruling right now. The PDP is, I'm coming, I'm getting to that, I'm coming to that point. I have talent, Governor Fierme, many times, to put Ole Baibu on his chest and square that he actually won the 2018 election, pre and fair. It didn't come in, but they got to say that he won. We are not going to go to that. But now, people have seen, even that fraud that was imposed on them, they have seen a government that they don't know they cannot see. It's a government that they cannot see. Many people don't even know what their government is. It does not stay in the case. It does not stay there. There's nothing to show that there's government. There's security issues everywhere. Yes, it is. Two people were killed between on it, on it, on it, on it. People are being killed every day with the government saying not to. So people know that they need the change of government. People, if you have a kid, know that the only time they have experienced government was when PDP was in power. The infrastructure development you've seen, where the ones done by PDP government, there's not two ways about that. So we are sure of winning. The only thing, the only thing some of us are saying is that President Buwari should try to try in the name of Allah, in the name of Allah, he should try and leave a legacy for Nigerians. He came to Papua, via a free and fair election. He should leave that legacy of giving Nigeria free and fair elections. All right, thank you, Larry. All right, thank you. You're welcome. That's indeed as much as we can take on this particular discourse. We have been looking at the PDP Premiers in the state, which held Wednesday. And that we were joined by Larry Olayankar, Director of Media and Publicity, busy Call Our League campaign organization. We indeed appreciate your time and input on the show this evening. Thank you. All right. 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