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There's plenty of stuff to talk about though Sure, it's kind of Scott's kind of yeah, it's an old been Sherman Thoughts on soul fire, you know, I don't have many thoughts on the guy I played a prank on him once not really played a prank He was being a dick and I responded and named a strain after him because he said that I stole his strain name that I had made two years prior But because he came at me all sideways, it wasn't just nice I you know Name the strain so far as my bitch But like I don't really know the guy past that I just I like to play joke sometimes, you know We do what's up to everyone on IG I started on YouTube early. So just like a few minutes earlier. So That's someone that asked about soul fire gardens So yeah, any questions you guys got throw them at me I don't know if any of you guys saw the fights this weekend. They were fucking awesome the whole card the UFC fights I haven't gotten to watch the canella one. I haven't seen the torrent for it up yet But USC was fucking stacked stacked Lots of good fights sad to see Frankie Edgar get kicked in the face. So he represents all those short people That's always a bummer to see Anyway celeb crush Burn it slap me Celeb crush. Come on. Yeah, that's a redhead. Someone asked my celeb crush Exactly Hey What's up stabby McStabwood? Yeah, we're trying man. We're trying to stay Positive butt nuggets. I agree flannel butt nuggets Frosted fruit cake from Canada will definitely be known and not too long. I guess we're gonna see Guess we're gonna see I've never heard of it yet, but I'm sure if sure if you're stoked with it It's something to be stoked about right Yeah, I just saw people definitely got it get kicked in the face especially when you're an asshole like me flat Yeah, Frankie's taking a lot of damage that was unfortunate, but yeah The rest of the fights were good though What was the first one gaugey channel was fucking amazing. I've watched it like four or five times now Couldn't get enough of it Couldn't get enough of it Robert don't worry about my douche flute. Don't even worry about that. I try to hide that shit How do you employ the flying arm bar you've got to be fucking able to jump high enough to get your legs or legs wrapped around someone's neck best bass restaurant Baco I Used to like chalet Basque But I've eaten a lot at wool growers a lot. I mean it's pretty good Are you at least any more of the GMO blue bonnet or any other GMO crosses? Yeah, they should be up. You should be able to go by them. They're called blistering over at speakeasy right now Not sure what's up on my site, but on their side through it AK bean brains and all one going that guy's such a fucking good luck with that for S Travis You can see a previous episode Keith Saviano to know what happened with old L. Jeffy But needless to say he is not a part of the crew. He was Unceremoniously tossed on his fucking ass from the crew. I Mean yes. Have you ever smoked it? Yes. What did you think of it? A very very good terpy ogee? very good terpy terpy ogee More on the I guess some people call it cakey side. I call it cereal side. I don't know I always get like fruit loops type Smells from it in the very far background with the lemon pledge You haven't hit a basket restaurant Kelly cancer. You're fucking nuts, man. Shit's good. They're they're like Soup reminds me a lot of my mom's Obundagus or my grandma's and mom's Obundagus soup Except that it doesn't have meatballs in it obviously But it's like a vegetable soup that you add in beans and fucking salsa too What's up Isaac vibes? How you doing brother? Thanks for stopping by I'm gonna use a mech mod and making my own juice. It's oh wow. Yeah, so I'm a reluctant Vapor in that I don't I don't like people knowing that I vape because Yeah, I mean I help me quit smoking though, and then I just use this forever since I Don't know is everybody's is everybody's stuff coming through Anybody having any problems with the connection or anything if so, let me know Anyway start flying some shit at me. Yeah flying arm bars are risky I tried doing that on a dude and he slammed me on my back spying first on the ground and cement It's I highly highly don't advise like flying arm bars during actual fights Especially if you're not like a experienced jujitsu practitioner, you know, are you trying to compete with medical Monday? I don't know what that is. What's medical Mondays in the wind. I never heard of it. Okay, good YouTube's going going smooth What is medical Mondays? I don't even know Everybody across a cut named sweet tangerine not tangy, but an old cut out of Oregon I have not but there were a lot of different tangerine cuts going around long before tangy came around Long before so that makes sense. Yeah You have six trains only on the site really still Well, there's a lot on speakeasies right now. I think they're all trying to push it through there So yeah, if you if you don't see it on my site go to speakeasyseedbank.com and check it out They're all I think most almost everything's up there Hopefully soon after some time they will be on my side, but for now go to speakeasy and pick them up there Yeah, the pig that's right. The the red side is having payment methods redone. So everything's going through speakeasy So check out speakeasyseedbank.com pick them up there grab them grab them grab them Yeah, when is CSI video? I don't know dude. You know what? Let's all have a big big big Mailing thing where we all go message CSI humble on his Instagram Everybody send him a message all of you and tell him you want to see him on here for a second round Yeah, is he YouTube channel with these two Michigan cats? Oh, I'm gonna have to go visit medical Mondays I'm gonna have to go check it out see what all the hikes about Right, so right now is having again then is she said it should already route you to speakeasy same with the spray We'll already direct to speakeasy. There you go Yep Yep Everybody go message my buddies at CSI. I say hey, dude We want to see you again get a second one where you can talk on the on the on the shit What's in my reversal spray? It is an STS base. That's about all you're gonna get out of me We worked it too too long to be just giving it all away for free But yes, it is an STS base. So, you know what is doing the actual action Three-part CSI said I did win me and Caleb. I mean CSI we talk all the time for hours and hours and hours And I really wish you guys could hear Even a quarter of what he says like when we talk go back and forth and theorize and talk about old Old seed companies and whatnot and yeah, I think you guys would enjoy Hey, buddy, I've never run any of gooey breeder stuff. I do like aft gooey I'm not sure that has anything to do with gooey breeder, but I might be wrong The tutorial video no Raffelin, but when you buy it, I wrote a whole new long Instructional on using the reversal spray. I did have up the videos for a long time I need to go redownload them of it being applied to plants so people can see how it looks when it's applied with a big spray bar on top of you know, I think there's 3000 or 6000 it's one of the two plants that we did all at once I think it's 3000 Same with getting fletch back on. Yeah, send fletch a message to I've been I've been bugging him So we'll see You're getting someone mentioned getting the banana headband. That's fucking awesome. Thank you for the support But to pop some blue bonnet F2 and blue side. I think did I put up the the blue bonnet picture the other day I might have one some someone's up to it is it's just a very traditional after any type cut The phenos that pop out of it Yeah, the blue bonnet f2s went quick and the blueberry IX the blueberry IX is one of my favorites as far as like if someone wants Something that looks more like DJ's traditional blueberry line, but still smells like blueberry unlike DJ's line Then yeah, that's the IX. It's a way to go for that. Any plans to work with Albert Walker If anybody ever coughs up a cut People stange you with that shit I've got a question. I've always wondered can an elite Fino cat piss cookie sour pop up when combining different parrot genotypes than traditionally expected Can you reward that a little bit or be more specific? Like in outcrosses is there something that I would think I could make more elite? I mean the whole definition of elite and and I know not so has talked about this a bunch Whole definition is elite of elite is something that a group or many people agree on being Heads and tails above everything else going around the community with a clone now over time It that's lost all meaning because all it takes now is a rapper saying this is our new gelato This is our new gelato and under new names new name new name new name. So that the old Definition of elite is not the same now. You're told what an elite is It's not a matter of a bunch of people Agreeing and like sharing a clone and it gaining hype on its own. That's gone. It's fucking a long gone So I was supposedly chem super skunk. Can you find it in chem crosses? so because because chem chem 91 is probably a super skunk and Because sour is another super skunk two different types of super skunk or one descends from the other more likely Which you'll find from a chem super skunk is a lot of super skunk But a very wide pool of super skunk if that makes sense You'll have the taller lengthier super skunks. You don't have the short squatty super skunks You'll have the Hermes skunks. You'll have the not so Hermes skunks You'll have stuff that is like like diesel for for example That's like buttery skunk and then you'll have stuff like sour. That's more like burnt rubber Skunky funk, you know, and then there's other super skunks that are kind of sweet too. So I mean, there's a lot of stuff in there Yeah, everything you'll see in in super skunk though. I tend to like most of it It's not known for a sexual stability, but you know, that is what it is So did you get when you play with it is there need to collect pollen and let it dry before using or is it more Vival to shake your mail around where your females are still alive. Um, I do not like storing pollen because it's very What's the word I'm looking for? It's not consistent. It's not consistent. How well any pollen will store when I when I collect pollen I use trim bins and that's like what you would trim over, you know with the screen those were originally called pollen collectors and you would you know shake a male over it and Then sift out the male flowers and only pollen falls through and you collect that pollen let it set out for a few days in a dark very dry area Maybe even four or five just to be sure and then collect it throw it in a super dark film canister that usually works or a amber colored bottle and Start in the freezer freezer or fridge but if there's any kind of plant material in it and you do that then You pretty much kill the pollen so keep that in mind Okay, which I expect out of bluicide and I should look for how do they grow? What type so we have a bunch of pictures of bluicide up on the the Instagram So if you get a chance to check it out go through our Instagram. We'll see a bunch of pictures of bluicide It's one of the more visually stunning looking plants. You'll see an almost og bubba type With blueberry and it can come out very heavy blueberry can come out very heavy Like that tricksy og type you can come out extremely og you can come out kind of bubba There's a lot of expressions and come out of the church, but blueberries definitely one of the more dominant Popped hella beans should I hold on to a couple males or just reverse my keepers females depends on what you're going for? You know you want a male that's going to breed in a direction you want Not every male breeds the same not every male lines up with a female the same way, so I highly recommend I mean it just it always depends on what what your end goal is. That's that's what I can really tell you It's always going to depend on what your end goal is We're going to some of dickhead shorts blueberry f4 cross is nothing blueberry But it has the blue smell just reminds me of a watered-down blue dream. Yeah, um, that's what happened that dude is a It was a worm, so I'll leave it at that Based on the resurgence of nl5 haze Piff is not just nl5 haze and it's a it's a an expression of nl5 haze Would you revisit a project with the papillairie rising again to a newer generation? No because nobody will buy it I still don't think they'll buy piffy stuff like real piffy stuff stuff. That smells like churchy metallic pissy Frankincense which is why you had the name Frankie. I don't I don't know if it sells me at least not for me Other people can sell it pretty well probably I think Bodie and top dog and a few others can sell Stuffed called piff really well, but I just don't think that there's a big resurgence With customers who are spending money that will buy it if that makes sense. I'd like to revisit it I don't have it anymore. It was a seed line and I was only allowed to cross out cross it now release appear and The last of those seeds went to Mitch Shanasa. So he has a very very very last of those I never intended to redo it again because it was just so It just did not sell at all I don't I don't remember more than a few pet maybe three or four packs Is something pathetic, but that was also A decade or so ago eight to ten years somewhere in there So it's it's a different time What else you guys got? Piff con does anyone gonna bring real piff? Yeah clockwork piff exists still jb I know a few people using that in some lines too If I harvested a pollinated female before the seeds are fully mature will they ripen during cure? No No seeds don't ripen during uh At once they're harvested. That's it. You're done Pacific coast genetics in oakland has a couple different piff cuts. Who knows what legitimacy? Yeah You know You know What's up big boy? You're gonna bring a real piff. You can go find you some dominicans and fucking shake them down for some real piff I mean, there's a lot of stuff called piff Um, a lot of people call the black haze cut piff that was started by incognito He it was when I was doing reverse or releasing my piff stuff He came out and said hey, I've just cut it's like piff and then everybody ran with it and called a piff And that was that that's how quickly shit like that takes hold, but I mean You know Does your reversal spray reverse males to female? No, you don't you don't use the same chemical action to reverse females as you do males Have you ever done that when trying to select a male to breed with? Yes um You want to use ethophon ethylene? It's an ethylene And uh, and then a gibrelic inhibitor would help Is pip talk but people don't want to run cuts over 10 weeks exactly nobody wants to run shit over 10 weeks Though did you guys see that fucking um They weren't like big, you know grows of it or anything, but uh sub-rob posted pictures of the the The bubble crossed to the rose flow And that one's done at 55 days flat like he was trying to take it longer He's like it just won't go that thing is done amber finished at 55 days And it's quite a complex terpene profile and luckily it took on more of the traits structure resin production of bubba as opposed to The the resin production of the rose flow which sucked Anyone here got a hyodestar cut? Um, if you want that go look for a pipsweed stuff He has some great destar crosses. I highly recommend it Yeah 120 days these dudes would fucking have a heart attack if someone had asked them to run something 120 days It's back the heights has the haze again. That'd be good. I mean if if Dominicans were putting it out again, that'd be cool That would be very cool. I've seen a lot of fake destar um Going around. I know pip has as well. He's meant talked about it a bunch um Yeah, I haven't seen destar in a long long time last thing I made with it was the pink death star that goes around canada p98 what was that uh, pre-night bubba Oh band-aid haze pre-90 above. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I bet that would come out pretty well Nice More traditional type f1 no Ken estes makes the gdp many seed companies have it Research ken estes. Oh lord Um, the person who was saying this or dirty. Have you ever seen ken estes tell the story Of where gdp came from? I think you would be very very quick not to Throw ken estes name out there as creator of anything if you heard his story on granddaddy purple. It's on um It's on youtube. Just look up ken estes granddaddy purple story and you will find it There is a riot discord. Um by a patreon Uh, we hang out we watch we watch fights together. We do all kinds of shit together and uh, Yeah, as a matter of fact, let's see how far in we are I'm switching over to patreon at the 30 minute mark. I think And that'll be all patreon people and last time I did that it was really really really cool Oh seed packs. Okay, there you go. That makes more sense. So dirty. Yeah, ken estes is a pendejo Things a little fucked up Perp game. I feel he fucked up the perp game. Yeah, I don't know what ken's deal was why he Is who he is or what he did what he did But yes, he did release seeds called granddaddy purple and that's what he was referring to yeah Thoughts on jungle boys, um Yeah, Ivan's been decent to me. I don't I don't have anything negative to say about jungle boys. They've been doing a lot of um Taking the tech further because they can afford to you know, it's cool to watch As far as growing tech and stuff like that He's been in the scene for quite a while. He didn't just like pop up like a lot of these rich kids did He's uh, he's been hanging around a long time um making his name in the game Been on been on the forums everything. So yeah, I mean Yeah, I don't really have anything negative to say there New lexma Lux models are about to drop. Yeah, I almost got some Almost got some he's gonna hook it up and then That's how it goes Trying the real deal krippy is that the piff always wondered I remember krip krippy in florida, miami o5 grower days So no krippy krippy is a term The first time I ever saw it was from a columbian talking about krippy being another name for columbian gold A lot of stuff moved from columbia up to florida. I believe it was just like fire or gank or any of that stuff Wasn't an actual term for a string However, there is a dippy shit that tried to stick krippy just oji That came way late into the scene as a pathological liar So I think a lot of people have confused that now unfortunately and no krippy is not the piff. They're very different things I mean, maybe maybe some of that haze is making it down to florida and people are calling it krippy Saying that shit's krippy, but that's about all the the relation that it would have With the strawberry, okay, how dominant is the mold resistance from the bird perp If you know is have strawberry smell should I expect mold is it you know Usually with the strawberry smell does come that mold resistance and I don't know if it's tied to that necessarily But yeah Um bloopers concrete stock. Yeah, they're on um speak easy seat bank.com right now a bunch of them. Yeah um Yeah, bk. Rolla said not the same. No um Yeah, there's there's people who have spread that they're poppy They're pop spread krippy and shit like that And it's the mother of oji kush just all kinds of bullshit if people say all kinds of bullshit I've been fucking around in the ufo community a lot and those people say all kinds of bullshit too Parallel to this shit's wild, huh? Bring back the strawberry sound, you know, that's that cbf stuff and I don't like to step on toes and now that he's back doing stuff Got any information on bay dream is that gdp? Cross to appellation. So the bay dream seed line What's that meat cutter the bay dream seed line Is different than the bay dream cut that won competitions a bay dream cut that won competitions was selected by bodi From my buddy high and lonesome my old partner my still my partner my my second life partner It was made by him and it was uh a tray dog from top dog seeds crossed a green or green crack crossed a tray dog I'm sorry From top dog seeds and it's folk and phenomenal. It's it's a great replacement for people sick of c99 stuff like that Friar it's great for outdoor Good fast flowering traditional sativa type, you know Um, but yeah, canesta has renamed it and then made a seed line cross with it and kept it the same name Big worm. I gotta I gotta I gotta bring you into this to this specific Discord it's fucking some of the shit that I've seen is fucking bananas that people will do Fucking bananas. I thought we had trolls here. What's that vice? Right? How you doing? resin grown How would you go about selecting males in a very minimal space? How should I implement the mail implement the mail selecting program and a perpetual go like a five by five? um, okay Hypothetically speaking resin grown. What would you want to make? What's your um, what's in your toolbox? What strains are in your toolbox and what what are you wanting to make with them? Is it just for just playing or actually breeding? We're like taking a line multiple generations I hear lots of raving about the msa version of silica um, I am a big fan of monosalicylic acid huge or orthosalicylic I think there's anything maybe But um power si has always been fucking dominant in that in that category power si kills it And I'm not big on like amendments. I like to keep shit simple But when I noticed and saw like how quickly I could bring up plant health with power si because it's like It does a good job carrying nutrients directly to the plant And it's like like mainlining some shit like if you need something fixed right away feed power si with like nitrogen or cal mag or Or Anything potassium phosphorus, and it'll I believe plat put it'll carry potassium and phosphorus as well I know for sure it carries nitrogen though, and that's when uh when I get a little lax in the garden I like using that to Fix my buck ups Appalachia smells like a really dang purple some of them do what's up Joe cool. How you doing? I saw you got that uh Um, a hashish book. It's one of my faves. It's got some awesome cartoons in it too Really awesome old cartoons and in cannabis history in general What seeds will you never run? Oh, there's a long list of shit. I'd never run just on principle I'm not familiar with old school green bc green bubblegum But there are a lot of different plants that will pull bubblegum phenos that aren't related to like the serious eats bubblegum Does anyone use the grow genius mono? They make Is that the no, I don't think I've used that one grow genius. No, I haven't used that one Oh Kim blackburn said Morgan he said that the blooper skunk is out. You want to add some more in Any ideas on what your next we're going to be if you're going to do more bonacrosses I probably won't do more bonacrosses because It's just I like to keep moving forward as much as I love that fucking mail And using the mail on how easy he is to breed with and how predictable he is Um, there's only so much blueberry people want to grow. So, you know, I kind of have to keep moving I've got a few options Did you get nice results from the z-headband? Yes, very dominant in the headband aspects. There's a headband cross to z-cube Your offerings are others that have the best balance of fruit turps and potency I'd say the trademark chat is one of the best for fruit turps and potency and yield Um looks everything because it can pull out lots of fruit turps And some of them have turpinoline in the background which helps the flavor of um, a lot of fruity turps come through Makes it really delicious Yeah Is the Indiana bubblegum bubblegum s1 or csi s1 the same one serious seeds used to make their bubblegum back in the day No But indiana bubblegum that csi uses is From a serious seed selection from 1995 Um, I did remake a blue dream with the bonnet mail. Um, the closest I could get really was that that uh, uh, Durban blue bonnet Um, it's a it was a similar kind of idea take the turpinoline merge it with, uh, blueberry and let the blue turps come through And it really did so yeah, and it has big yield mold resistance fast flowering All those traits everybody loved blue dream for Th seeds adam done indiana bubblegum. Yeah, like he's he wasn't really responsible for it He was around for it. He was one of the first people to have those seeds from victor Of bubblegum, but he was not The absolute originator though no matter what he tells you he is he owns that shit kind of like he owns What's that other one he does Can't believe I just blanked on that sage Like we know where that came from, but yeah Not saying that he's like lying. He was a part of that. He was a part of the crew, but he did not bring it I have a lot of seeds from speakeasy and other stuff. I want to start messing around with yeah Speakeasy's got a bunch carries a bunch of great people um Check out archives csi bodey Uh dynasties on there genes on there or check out everyone they carry good people Um, the bubbleberry san peter seeds says about to pop your bubbleberry v2 that that's my most consistently Line that came out of all the blue bonnet stuff. Those are pretty predictable. Like there's there's roughly four or five phenotypes mostly that are expressed and they're really really uniform For like that blueberry bubblegum turp how it looks the way it stacks You hear the indiana bubblegum was actually from illinois. Yeah, that was an adam dunnism. I don't know if there's any Credit to that Blusifer every I like the name blusifer, but they wanted to sue me Had the very top of it smell like actual fruity blueberry And it's vigorous rest of the plant reminds me of a red dragon phenol. So around in the past very cool You're making anything else with the master yoda Or even master yoda s ones or f2s. No, I don't have that cut anymore And it was so the master yoda was super afghani dominant og hybrid So whatever it was og crossed to something short squat stacked very resinous. I'm not sure what it was Um, but it was nice. It was a beautiful cut, but I did not keep it I did not keep it after that. Um, we cross it to The haze brothers kush or and it might have gotten Might have gotten hit with the z cube too, but I think it was just the I know for sure the kush Have you ever gotten or used an s1 male supposedly rare? Yes, and yes What you're getting is a a female expressing male as best we can tell So it's got all female genetics But for whatever reason in that environment it wants to express as a male And because cannabis is so fucking weird It'll do that for a long time It used to give us lots of fits when a male would pop up And I'm granted a lot of time when people see true males in s1. So it's from pollen contamination You know, it's just it's part of the part of the gig We make anything. Oh, yeah, I already read that one. Can you compare the 56 headband and day record crosses? 56 day headband To day record a record when I think about it is more like football shaped type yieldy More chemi smelling with oed or triangle type terps whereas headband is more of a traditional og type But not but with bigger longer colas But with more og terps as opposed to chemi terps Any moms are going to be using in the near future Or I reckon so I reckon so we've got a few we've got a few up up in the air that we're we're going to be using Lipid e-glue awesome join patreon because we're about to switch over right now to patreon So Yeah And you guys want to want to continue the conversation last time we did this We did the live feed on ig youtube and it was fucking awesome But when we switched to patreon because there was really only like 15 or 16 people that came into the chat It was a lot more private Relaxed it was fucking cool. I really that was one of the first live feeds in a long time. I truly enjoyed So yeah, we're going to be switching over there And if any of you want to join give me about 10 minutes and then i'll fire off the link via patreon And yeah, so keep watching the patreon page and it'll pop up in about 10 minutes Lots of love everyone