 channel, go forth and scale relationships, resources, and ROI. My name is Maria Lisa Cersa. I'm the founder of Read or Good, a communications consulting firm rooted in storytelling. Previously, I worked in the mayor's office. And then before that, I was a reporter at the San Antonio Express News, where I covered education and a host of other things that they needed when they needed someone to go in. So we are joined today by Andrea Figueroa, Executive Director of Martina Street Women's Center. Ruben Ramos, Vice President for Corporate Responsibility and Reputation at EVBA Compass, and Leah Rosner, President and CEO of Girl Bink, where I had my first and hands down my most fulfilling job ever. So I want to start with some working definitions to make sure that we're all on the same page. I think that's super helpful. I think we throw around terms like digital inclusion, digital divide. And I think most everyone in this group knows what they are, but I just have to define them for folks that maybe don't know or aren't sure. The digital divide is defined as the gulf between those who have ready access to computers on the internet and those who do not. And then digital inclusion ensures that individuals and disadvantaged groups have access to and skills to use information communication technologies and are therefore able to participate in and benefit from today's growing knowledge and information society. So thank you all for being here today. I wanted us to start by talking a little bit about y'all's concept of San Antonio's digital divide. What does that mean to you? And how do you see that manifest in the communities that you serve? I don't know if we want to just go in order. Who ever wants to go first? Ladies, she'll go first. I'll start. I'm never shy. I'll start. What it means to me is simple. Access and opportunity. Access and opportunity. I'll give you one example. Girl think our mission is to inspire girls to be strong, smart, and bold. We do that through programs after school, through summer, through break. We'll talk about after school. We talked earlier today about the homework gap. Here's a very simple, unfortunately, example of what we mean for what I mean by the digital divide. A back school program, fourth grader in SAISD, had a two-page worksheet, math worksheet. It was an online textbook. The only way that these girls could do their homework that night, the digital worksheet, was connectivity. You have to have a, and I wouldn't even say tablet's difficult, because you had to answer some questions that kids are using more nimble than I am, so maybe a tablet, but a computer. After school, we have connectivity at our place. We pull up the textbook. We're working through the worksheet. Grandma comes to pick her up. Time to go home. Come on, time to go home. Can't wait anymore. Time to go home. Not done with the worksheet. The student wants to finish her work. Doesn't want to not get her work done for the next day. I'm having problems working through it with her, because I'm used to having a piece of paper and being able to do this. But we're working on it on the screen. I'm like, OK, no problem. I'll print this for you. I'll print the two-page worksheet. Take it home. Finish it. This is my lesson. These online digital textbooks are smart enough not to be able to print. All right? Copywriting. New to me. I'm like, OK, me, problem solved. There's a way around this. I can screenshot it. Print screen. Right? Easy. The thing comes out pixelated. Oh, come on. Because the companies are smart enough to figure out the technology that you can't do that. Print screen. So once again, grandma's getting frustrated, because things you do at home got to go. Students frustrated because wants to finish her homework, but there is no way to get that done at home. Access opportunity. For me, that's what the digital divide is about. The workaround would figure it out. You can take a picture of the screen. I'm like, my phone. And then email me the picture. It was lousy. But we kind of got some of the questions figured out. But that was the workaround. Access opportunity. Yes. Yes. And I think I would add an and to that. Everything that Leah said, we experience as well with our girls and the women that we serve. Because most of the women that we serve also need some sort of extra help. That's why they're in our center to begin with. So they need basic needs. They need all types of field stuff. And currently, right now, the best way to do that is online. There's a lot of things that happen online. And when they come to us, we're able to sort of bridge that gap with them. But in addition to that, what the digital divide looks like to me is a denying of the right to communicate properly or with the human right of communication. So if we are looking at the history of San Antonio and we look at where investment was placed in San Antonio and why investment was placed in San Antonio, then this is just another iteration of that same treatment and lack of investment in certain communities. And we're all here talking about economic growth and we're talking about the return on investment. The return on investment is making sure that our students have the ability. And it's not even about an equal playing field. Everybody says a level playing field is we are playing catch up with our students. It's not a level playing field. And this is a tool, technology is a way for us to get even further on that road to catching up. So yes, I see obviously it's all about a human story. It's a human story of not being able to access. But and that human story also is about the systems that exist in the city and other cities around the country, being the 17th worst connected city in the nation of the acknowledgement of why this is happening and why this is happening now and to whom it happens to all the time. So that is always in my head as we are talking about this digital inclusion conversation. Because if we don't admit we have a problem, then we're not going to get to the right solutions. OK, so I'm just going to play up with these two ladies said to my left and to my right. I'm Ruben Ramos with BBBA Compass Bank. And she said access and availability. I grew up in San Antonio. I went away for about 15 years, but now I'm back in the Lone Star State. And I was assigned by BBBA Compass to the border. So you heard Jordana Barton, which I'm glad she's in the other room because I can say whatever I want because she's in the bed, right? And the Wells-Barrows ladies over there and I'm near. So anyway, the point is that Jordana Barton wrote a publication in 2015 about the colonias. I don't know if some of you are familiar with that terminology, but fundamentally, you're talking about pockets of communities along the Texas border region. It's not all the way to California where you have communities that have, forget about infrastructure, they don't even have running water and electricity. So government at some point in time decided not to invest in those communities at one level or another. So based on that publication in 2015, she went on in 2016, July of 2016, revised in December of 2016, and she wrote a publication called Addressing the Digital Divide and a Framework for Banks like ours to invest in trying to change this paradigm. So you talked about access and availability. We're trying to provide access to capital, to organizations at every level to invest in those broadband projects and deliver that technology to communities that otherwise didn't. We invested about $100,000 along the border region for a very specific area in Edalobo County to try to achieve this result. We designated the area so we could site it and determine what was available by government, if they had decided or not, to invest in San Juan Farr and Alamo. It was a school district called Barsan Juan Alamo, that's what it's called. And fundamentally, our scope of investment was simply how do we move this a little bit forward there. If it works there, then let's take it to the lower Rio Grande Valley, which is Brownsville and Arlington, and then how do we take it all the way to El Paso and we'll connect to Laredo as we're on our way to El Paso. So access, availability, absolutely. And then with your point, return on investment, it's just a wise investment for a bank. This is a bank now. So for us, the return on investment is if we provide access to capital through investment or lending to companies that want to bring the broadband to these communities, we're going to have more customers. It's just as simple as that. I'm surprised, the lady was asking about H-E-V and shaming H-E-V because they did the thing in Austin instead of in San Antonio and all that kind of stuff. Why is an H-E-V in the room? Why isn't every private sector industry throughout San Antonio in the room? It's in our self-interest. Whatever industry you're in to have broadband brought to your community because they're going to be able to do business with you. So that's my response, digital inclusion. I think all of us were great responses. I want to remind folks that please feel free to tweet or post it up on Instagram or Facebook or through social media. We have a hashtag today that connects all of us. And I'm not texting up here. I'm taking notes, just in case you guys were wondering why. So my next question is, how fast is it taking notes on this? Yeah, it comes from my previous life as a reporter. So this question is really for Girls Inc. and for the Martinez Street Women's Center. Leah and Andrea, each of you provide direct services to girls and young women that tackle digital inclusion and digital citizenship. Tell me a little bit about the programs that you offer and how you maximize community relationships to help you scale your offerings. So I can talk about Girls Inc. all day. So just coming off at some point. So the Girls Inc. So how do we provide programming opportunities for girls to be strong, smart, and bold? So part of it is nothing is just one thing. We can be talking about STEM or computer science, but we're also talking about confidence and teamwork and knowing your strengths. So in a broad way, all of the programs we provide, the direct services with girls, whether that's summer camp, all week long, eight to 10 hours a day, whether that's after school for an hour or two hours, whether that's spring break camp, it's all about strong, smart, and bold. And what do I mean by strong, smart, and bold? Strong is healthy. Mentally healthy, physically healthy, emotionally healthy. Smart is graduate from high school. We already saw a graphic today about how many kids don't graduate from high school. Graduate from high school when having a plan for education. Lifelong learning. Bold are all of the life skills that it takes to put strong and smart into effect. So let's talk about STEM, computer access, computer literacy, being safe online. We did, we have a mobile computer, a little, it was a pretty heavy cart actually, that brings out laptops and Chromebooks and hotspots, wherever we go, we want to go where the girls are. One of the biggest barriers to participation in anything for us, for girls, but it could be of anything, is going to be transportation, getting to where you need to go. So we go where the girls are. We go to the Saha communities. We go to the schools. We cart the computer technology with us. All right? But it's more than just, you know, okay, so I'm going to date myself here. I was in basic computer programming, but I have also program facilitators that can teach you scratch and all kinds of other computer type programs to build your own app. But that's all well and good. But if you don't know how to be safe online, or if your family says, what are you doing online? There is no way I'm going to let you have a device because I know what happens online. All you're going to do is get sucked in to something that you shouldn't be participating in. All right? Because your family doesn't have connectivity. It is a very much a multi-level issue. I see a lot of nods in the heads. A lot of nodding in the heads. So how do we combat that? And it's the one word in the title of this panel. It's about the relationships. It's about the relationships. So we can throw resources at a problem. I can have the best trainers, BBBA can have the best economic literacy folks who are going to come in to a community and say, I am going to teach you how to balance your textbook. Probably not, there's other things to do now online. With banking, okay? Millennials don't have to. I know, I know, okay? We can have the best resources, the best information, but without that relationship, nobody is going to come. Nobody is going to come. No one's going to trust girls' ink to be with their girls. So it's about that relationship. So how do we do that? It's time. It's time it's showing up. We've been in Saha communities where one girl has shown up. But we've done a program that's supposed to be for middle school girls, but the middle school girls can't come because they're supposed to take care of their younger siblings. So we make sure that we have activities for the younger siblings. So while we're talking to the middle school girls about being safe online, it's about building the relationship. And that gets to the return of the investment. And I'm now really rambling, so I will stop there. So, you know, at the Martini Street Women's Center, we have a girls' home program, so it's girls from the ages of eight, all the way up to 18. But we consider ourselves to be a social justice organization. So what we really want to do is prepare girls to go into the world and make substantial transformative change in their communities. So what does that look like? And what does digital inclusion have anything to do with that? And how do we put all those things together? Well, this is how. Because we involve them in those ideas. We talk about those ideas. And I'll give you an example. We had a campaign, I don't know if you were in the other room when Dianne was talking about net neutrality. And, you know, this ongoing, you know, this ongoing battle and, you know, one that we've, because of this new administration, we're not in such a great place, right? But the Biden's in over. And what we did was engage our students in that conversation. Now, the word net neutrality or those words, I think nobody even had a context of what that means. What does net neutrality mean together? And, you know, but we know that if we explain it and we explain it in a way that is age appropriate for a girl no matter what level she's at, that she is going to have an opinion about that. And she is also going to be willing to strategize with you on ways that they can be involved. And so that's how we do it. We want to get the girls that are in our program involved. Because if you get, you know, a young girl from eight years old that wants to make a change in her community and knows that she can at the age of eight, then what kind of woman are you going to have walking around the city of San Antonio in several years? And that just makes me kind of like tear up. So that's what we do. And for the things that we are not experts in, I'm not an expert in digital inclusion. I'm just a person in the community who ended up in this job and also cares about all of these things in my community. And that's one thing we also tell the girls. You don't have to be an expert to about a topic, to care about it, to want to do something about it. And you don't have to be an expert to lend a hand in whatever issues you care about. Don't leave it to the experts to, you know, change the world or make it the way that you want to. You can learn as much as you can up until, you know, you have learned everything, which there's never learning everything. That's not a thing. But you can do that now. And when we are not experts in things, then we partner. We partner, and we partner, and we partner. So, you know, we just heard from Jake from Seistemic. They're reaching out to us to see if they can provide services for our youth. And we work with Code Jam every summer so that they can come and teach our youth. We work with Google Fiber so that we can have, you know, resources or connections or all sorts of things because we understand that the technology that we cannot generally provide for our students and that they don't have access to in their neighborhoods except now on the east side, we have a bibliotech and I am a huge fan of bibliotech. At least we use that space all the time, but we need more. And so as we ask our students and we look around and we say, what are the things that you wish were different about your community? Sometimes this is part of it. This is part of it because they understand that there are other places in the city of San Antonio where people have it on computers and can get online at home. They understand that and they know that they're in a different situation. So I don't know. We have to be creative as well. And I'm ranked with now, but I'm going to say one more thing. I know that there's an organization here in San Antonio who is doing something with making school parks available to community members. And I wish that we could do that as well with school computer labs, because they're right in their neighborhood. They're right there, that's a place. So I don't know, pin that. Maybe we can make a walk there too. I hadn't heard of that. I think that's a great point. How do we open up resources that are in our community so that we can all leverage them and just kind of grow the work that we're doing? Reuben, this question is for you. Because of the way the federal government has redefined our community reinvestment act credits to kind of include things like tackling the digital divide, what are some of the things that you're evaluating in a community partner and a non-profit partner, like Girls' Aid, like the Martinez Street Women's Center, when you're dealing about equity and money for this problem? What are the things that you want to see and what's the ROI that you're looking for? No, great question. And both of my panel colleagues here touched on it a little bit. We're seeking the most credible non-profit organizations that have a track record that have the ability to deliver and more importantly provide us measurable impact. That is, can you provide data point about whether it's the young ladies that you're serving or it's the young girls that you're serving, what neighborhoods are they coming from? So we want certain demographic information about the schools that those young ladies or students attend. We want that information. We also want measurable impact in the context of what did they know when they first went into the workshop and then what did they learn from our team members engaged in helping facilitate these workshops. She mentioned CRA. Let me put to bed the notion that this administration or even this Congress is going to be able to overturn the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977. For those of you that don't know, that's just a very simple proposition that banks, if they take deposits from all parts of the community do a fairly good job of reinvesting dollars and making access to capital available to all of that same community, whether that community be low and moderate in income or upper and middle income demographics. So I don't think there's any progress on the hill to try to move CRA or water it down in any way, shape or form. In fact, I think what you're going to see is starting, we're starting to see some more creative ways for the Community Reinvestment Act to be defined because of the digital environment that we're operating in. This framework that Jordanna Barton provided us, there was never a provision for the banks to have an incentive to invest in these kinds of digital type summits, digital infrastructure projects or other. It was just another loan. Right now we get credit for CRA for investing in bringing technology to some of these low and moderate income communities. With respect to team member engagement, and it's kind of like a three-legged stool I like to talk about, is you've got to bring the broadband and the infrastructure in and once we have the infrastructure in, now we have to bring the hardware to those communities because they don't have laptops. And we try to focus on laptops as opposed to tablets or smartphones because you want these kids and you want this new generation that's never really been touched by this kind of technology, full monty of what a laptop and the utility of a laptop bring. So we like laptops. And then last but not least is the training. So you've got the infrastructure, you've got the laptop, now we have to engage our team members or we partner with strong nonprofits like you're to bring people in. They're not going to come to the bank, but they'll come to you because they trust you. So once we have a captive audience, then we're able to train these young folks. It doesn't have to be young folks. It could be an adult financial education seminar that's teaching people just simply how to download our app or how to do things on a laptop as simple as just word or just spreadsheet. So the answer to your question really is we look for the best and the brightest nonprofits in the community, those that have a track record, those that we know that can deliver and that are trusted in their respective communities to bring the captive audience we're looking for. I think you also for going over just kind of the history and bringing it up to speed on the... C.R.A. Yeah, C.R.A. That was something that I had to learn on the fly about before coming here tonight. So this question is for all of you. What are some of the regulations and roadblocks that are preventing us from reaching our goals regarding basic and equitable access to high speed internet and how long do you think it'll take for us to change these roadblocks to speed up broadband deployment? Kind of a tricky question. I have to admit, I learned something today that I didn't know. I've often been an advocate that you would not... I've often said you wouldn't build a house today without having electricity in the house. You wouldn't do it. But we can build apartments and houses and not necessarily guarantee connectivity. I did not realize till today that the municipality of Texas is going to have to build a house without having electricity in the house. I didn't realize till today that the municipality of Texas the state prohibits that from providing that. That was new information for me today. So I don't overcome that. I'm greater minded than I to figure that one out. I think it's about being creative. I mean, there is no way to break the cycle of generational poverty. There is no way to inspire lifelong learners. There is no way to encourage savings and retirement and not using payday loans or title loans without... I mean, we talk about how to apply for a job. I don't know how you do it without email address. I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you do it without email address and you can chat. I don't know how you apply for a scholarship if you're in high school without a phone. I mean, I am incredibly impressed that Maria can take notes on this sucker. I'm good about taking pictures of the PowerPoint slides. And then maybe you remember you can go back and look at it. So we have to get creative. We have to get creative. I love what Saha has done with a technology idea you could do work and create a broadcasting out, broadband from solar light poles kind of thing. That's the only thing that's going to get us so far. I love the idea of sharing bandwidth. But how many of us in our day-to-day lives have said to your boss I really don't have the bandwidth to handle that right now. Okay? We've all said that. Right? I don't know if we have the bandwidth to handle that. All right. So now we're talking about bandwidth in what we really should be talking about bandwidth and that's the connectivity of it. So how can we share bandwidth? Right? So in today's city infrastructure do you pass an intersection that doesn't have a box that is able to either take broadcast your license plate so it knows when I you know, went through that red light kind of, not really you know, or has the ability to check your pipe pass or toll tag, you know, what can that box do to broadcast out a signal? I have no idea. But it's about being creative like that. And then, so that's the technology infrastructure and I'm going to go back to what I said at the beginning. Then it's about working individually with the people and if it's going door to door and saying, being connected is not scary. You know? Being connected can save your life. Being connected you know can help your niece, nephew, grandchild, goddaughter, son you know to graduate high school you know to have an answer when his or her friend says, come and join me in doing something they shouldn't be doing. But they are tools online you know that's about that human relationship return on investment. So I think it's how long it's going to take to get there longer than it should but it takes conversations like this it takes people who have given their time you guys here today to be part of the conversation to spark that one idea to say I'm going to connect Maria with so and so because I met that person at the Digital Inclusion Summit that's what it's going to take and it's going to and we will do it one step at a time well I think that there's a few things I think that one it takes partnership we talked about partnership but it also takes pressure it takes pressure from the people who are affected and I think that you know it's wonderful for us to have these conversations and we need to have those conversations but the conversation is more full and more robust when the people who are the most affected are in the room and at the table and so until we you know get to that step which really should be step one in the process is who is most affected right and what is understanding the value that that brings to the table and the nuance and the magic and the conversation and the organizing that comes out of that is incredible so one having the people who are most affected at the table partnerships and pressure to those who have the resources to invest in our communities three an idea that is springing up around the country and has for a long time and that's ownership ownership of these of community broadband and how do we do that those are they're big questions but but I think that we have to do all of the things that people have talked about here we need to have these conversations I love the fact that we have a digital inclusion summit here in San Antonio because you know we work with national partners like the praxis project who has community health worker from Otoras who are talking about digital inclusion and access in the neighborhoods and and the neighborhoods that are most affected and Dan talked a little bit earlier about media action grassroots networks so a lot of social justice organizations that get together around the country that know that understand that even though this is not our primary mission it is very much interconnected with what we are trying to do and what the access and the opportunity and the ownership that we want our communities to have in the future so yes for me it's again I keep borrowing from both of you the value proposition the value proposition to stakeholders both public sector and private sector for the private sector it's pretty easy for me any major industry their own self interest to try to promote digital inclusion because everything that we are going to do on a move forward basis is going to be based on that smart phone or that tablet or that laptop everything that's just the way it's going from the private sector perspective this room should be full of every major industry segment wanting to know what can they do to do their part to their constituency as it relates to investing in digital inclusion because it's in their self interest and profitability so throw out the private sector now we get to the public sector this is where you're going right people need to really hear from the people that serve their district serve their regions or whatever at every level of government what are you doing to help bring broadband to the community that I live in that you represent what public sector dollars are you bringing to bear to bring broadband and to bring infrastructure projects to our community whether it's the Colonia west side of San Antonio to ensure that people have access to the same thing that people in Alamo Heights or Terrell Hills or in the Dominion have at the same speed by the way that's not sacrifice that right that's not that's not go substandard on y'all well we brought it but it's slow well that's not going to help either and so I would just simply close just think about that for a moment put yourself in someone's shoes that doesn't have this whether you're a mother a father a grandmother or other how in the world can you actually thrive in this economy and in this society without technology your disposal so digital inclusion to me is kind of a I mean it's kind of a no brain right it really is whether you're talking about private sector or public sector it comes down to what you said the stakeholders in all of this we're all stakeholders in it and the sooner that we get around it and start really understanding what it is to do in order to advance this conversation the better overall and by the way touches everything healthcare education economic development affordable housing it's all connected with the San Antonio housing authority figured that out right so it just seems to me it's a it's a much broader conversation that needs to be had and I'm surprised this thing's not standing room only with more people in the room it doesn't that's everything I mean even you know so we're going through insurance and bills at work you know we all go to that right and I know right and they're even talking to us about telemedicine like you know you don't have to go clinically and you know you're fighting a cold you can just I'm like I don't even know how I'm comfortable with that you know and I am digitally connected you know so you just think about the future you know it's all going to be it's all going to involve bandwidth about seven minutes left but I love how I think this conversation is helping us segue to the next couple of questions our conversation here is better than the one in the big one I'm just saying don't tell the ladies from a little farther so you touched on this a little bit I think everyone kind of did but the next question that I have and I'm going to just kind of put both of them together and see if you guys can just kind of rapid-fire answer these but how does the city and county either fail to or come through on helping us close the digital divide and then in addition to that what's at stake what's at stake for San Antonio's future how does it impact our education and our economy housing you know all of the things that we talked about kind of being interrelated I don't know what to take that with first but I'll take a shot but you know I'm not living in San Antonio now somehow I ended up in Houston with BEDA but so I'm not going to be able to speak to the success or failure of Bear County or the city of San Antonio in this context I will tell you that along the border region they failed and they failed miserably and I don't say that with any pride or joy the fact of the matter was there were communities along the Texas border region that were forgotten and we lost a generation of kids and that's unfortunate and so what's at stake in my view is you could possibly have a place where San Antonio just freezes in terms of economic development because when you think about it what we're talking about here particularly in the context of education you want a more educated workforce to attract industry and to attract companies to want to headquarter here in San Antonio besides USA and HGP to Austin the point here is that you've got to somehow understand that connection I'm going to be hard on HGP and I haven't HGP so the point here is that the question of what can be lost what's at stake is really the future of San Antonio and Bear County in the context of economic development you're going to stop attracting companies here if you don't have an educated workforce and you're not going to have an educated workforce if these kids don't have access to the internet to your point how do they apply for scholarships how do they apply to UTSA or any other school you're also going to limit yourself in the context of in the healthcare industry the UT Health Science Center and the medical investments that we've made with those jobs in that industry if you don't keep moving this forward and populating those specialty jobs in the healthcare industry you're going to run into a debt in there the point is that what is at stake is the future of San Antonio the future of San Antonio is going to be tied to how well these organizations can touch the lives of the young ladies that they help with respect to digital inclusion, digital technology instruction and training so that they can advance their careers to higher institutions of education as far as it takes and without digital and broadband you're going to go into a debt there's a lot at stake that's a big question but it's kind of a scary proposition and it happened along the border region and we're going to try to change that I mean, you know everything is at stake so we take great pride in San Antonio one of the fastest growing communities that we have a world heritage designation with our incredible missions our incredible history our incredible culture we take great pride in what we have here we also know that we are the most economically segregated city in the country and that will not change if we don't tackle this it won't no matter how exciting we are about these other things we will continue to be the most economically segregated city period and we will never get out of that never get out of that without tackling these issues that's what's at stake you know I can't imagine living in another city and I brag about us all the time when I'm with my nonprofit colleagues from around the country of how collaborative we are how much we enjoy working together how much we all want to bring resources to the table and that is true I have never been in a room where people don't want to help solve the problem and my colleagues from around the country go are you crazy you guys are competitors no we are tackling the same issues it takes all of us alright so we are so good and I brag about that to others around the country but we don't just want to tackle this you know everything will stay everything will stay you know and we haven't addressed it in forever you know I mean we haven't as we have created policies as we have created infrastructure or built schools or brought in companies I don't think we have made sure that all of the issues are on the table you know we opened up today talking about Hulu and that when and I wasn't on the economic development panel talking about Hulu so I wasn't part of that but part of the conversation was you bring your headquarters here this is an issue the digital divide is something we want we'll give you these incentives but we also want you to be at the table both with resources and with your brain power to help us solve that I don't think you were asking those questions 5, 10, 15, 50 years ago we have just about a minute left thank you today I don't know if you want to close this out close it no pressure I mean I think that why are you talked about the history of our city and so there are a lot of missteps along that history that have led us to today for us to be having to look backwards and say where do we clean up these mistakes how do we catch up because we have invested in development and we have brought in which is fine but the investment in our neighborhoods and in our people have lacked and we're barely starting to see the city talk about equity and that's wonderful that's wonderful that this conversation is actually happening now but I think the thought that should have been happening many, many years ago is why we're in this position now and so we have got to think not just today but we have to think 20, 30, 50 100 years in the future and think what do we want for the people of San Antonio and not just the people that are coming here the people who are already here the people who have been here for generations the people who have been here for 20, 30 years and who are raising families here and who will be here for generations to come we need to start thinking about the people that are here in San Antonio and what do we want their lives to look like in 100 years so that we don't make the same mistakes that were made throughout the history of this city Thank you all so much I hope all of you enjoyed our finalist today