 The career talk here at the InterGU Frankfurt 2080, and with me is Federica Castaldi from TopCon. Nice to meet you here. Nice to meet you. You're quite new at TopCon. Yeah, so I reached TopCon about one year and a half ago, coming from a big manufacturing company. I'm the HR director in Europe for TopCon. And what I can say that TopCon is a very exciting company. I'm very happy to reach them and working for them in the last year and a half. I think that people in TopCon is very friendly, is very passionate. That is not so easy to find in a big company. And our level of skills is very, very high. And I think we really have to invest in developing our people because we are a very technological company. Our product is very innovative. And I think we really can compete also with big company in our environment. The skills shortage is widely reported in the media. How do you think this is impacting the industry at the European level? So as a manufacturer with a strong focus on industry 4.0, we feel we can give our great contribution to address this issue. That will be through our technology and our expertise because we engage with the industry as well as with the educational establishment to support smart working on today's construction side as well as develop the new generation of the industry. So what is TopCon doing to help improve the skills gap at the European level? But we have a different program. We have an education partnership program that's where TopCon provides accessible modern technology to students that are about to make one of the most important decisions in their life means what profession I'm going in. So TopCon feel very responsible that modern technology are available to students and high schools and university. Another example is also a class for your own. We developed a school program for 13, 14 and 15 years old. Kids that are very familiar with 3D games and virtual reality sounds like far away from our industry, but it's actually not. So it's also bringing kids, the kids games alive. In addition, we have, I will also to stress a concept that we are also continually working to improve skills of TopCon employee through the global leadership development program to invest in leadership skills for our manager. We develop a global level, a program that's being held in all the region, US, Europe and APAC. And this program has been designed to meet the needs of high potential middle and senior level people either using best practice, latest thinking and innovative approaches. Thank you so much Federica Castagli and thank you, bye.