 Is this your daughter? Yes. Oh. How are you doing today? Not so good. My head hurts and around my stomach and I just don't feel good all the time. You're having stomach pain and your head hurts today. How long have you been feeling like this? It's been like that ever since I came back. So you're here today to talk about your visit. We know that you went down to the medical center to talk to the doctor about your illness and your treatment. So how did that visit go? My mother went down to Phoenix and I think that with one of the children being there should have been present at least for the information when the doctor explained to her. There's nothing else they can do for her but just to send her back. But we were very upset because, you know, no one translated for my mother and also no one was there. I imagine it was upsetting to hear that news by yourself. They said they can't do any more by that, I guess. I don't know. Did you understand what the doctor was telling you about the cancer? Not really. Would you like me to review a little bit about the cancer and where you've been and also so that your daughter now can hear more about the cancer and about the options at this point? No. Okay. Yeah, that would be good. Okay. Yeah. Well, what we know is that you have this colon cancer in that although you've tried the treatment, despite what you've done so far, the cancer has spread and it's no longer just in the colon, now it's in different parts of your body. That could be part of why you're having some discomfort as well. And when they say that there's no more to do for you, what they mean is that there is not a treatment at this point that will make that cancer stop growing or go away. So there isn't a cure for this cancer. It's grown and it's spread and there's not a way to take it away, but there is a lot more that we can do. When you talk about treatment, what kind of treatment are you talking about? I mean, it seems like when she got sent down to the big city, you know, they told her something else. So what would you think you might have here that we might have to think about? When we talk about treatment now, we're talking about active treatment to help you feel good as you continue to live with this cancer. And so that means that if you're having trouble with nausea, we might be able to have a treatment that could help your stomach. If you're having trouble with pain, we might have a treatment that could help with the pain. Oftentimes, we're talking about pills and other medications. Are there other types of treatment that you're wondering about? You know, we had a relative that was sent down to the big city for the same kind of illness. And when she did visit and she just broke down because she never thought to see an uncle like that with tube in the nose and also have something like a tube going in the mouth and also had some little, like an IV or some tube that's going into the arm here. And she says, I don't want that at all. So what I'm understanding you to say is that it's important to you to not have to be sent off to a big hospital and have to have those types of treatments if they're not going to be helpful. And right now I don't think that any of those types of treatments would be helpful. What I'm understanding is that you don't really want to go off to a big hospital. What would be important to you? She mentioned that she'd like to consider the traditional healing ceremonies. She wants to talk with one of the medicine men that who can do a chant over her for five is a five-day ceremony. She wants to do that. And maybe as a family we could support her and get that ceremony done for her. So what I'm understanding then is that the traditional therapy is very important to you and that can certainly have a very, very big role in your treatment now as you continue to live with this cancer. We also will have other treatments to offer you if you feel like you need them. And like we talked about before, those would be aimed at your symptoms. So if there are medications that we could offer you that would help with some of your symptoms then that would be something that you could consider in addition to the traditional healing. Are there other family members that you would like involved in some of these discussions? My sister and my brother. Do you think we could set up a meeting where they can all come along with you next time? And then we can all sit down as a group and discuss what's important to you at this point? Well we'll certainly work with you to find a time that we can all get together. I'd like to examine you now and then we'll talk about what types of medications we could use to help treat that pain that you're having. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.