 And the stream should have audio and looks like it has audio. All right. Oh Yeah, I too have open the action Stream looks good, and I heard audio come out of it. So we're definitely good. It's Thursday, June 7th 2018 I'm rim and this is geek nights tonight Indian food because we really are out of Thursday show ideas Yep, your microphone is working Right right now. No one's complaining right now. No one said anything in the chat yet. Good How would you know who was complaining when how would you know that for many times? For what times? They want time all these recent shows. We've had the mixer messed up. Oh and we didn't stream at all cuz no one had audio Yeah, it wasn't because it was quiet it was so that deal with that Go for it then Yeah So at work I got his new job in a new neighborhood. Yeah, it's actually old neighborhood is the same neighborhood my previous job You know what's crazy ten years ago was in I'm in the exact same boat I recently got a new job, and I'm in the neighborhood where my job from ten years ago was Food situation down there. There's plenty of places to get food But a lot of them are very expensive. There's some cheap ones. Oh cry me or ever. I'm in midtown next to Grand Central It's either Pratt or a $12 sandwich The thing is even at least in midtown I could go to the everything deli and there was everything deli's there that were good down in Soho There's like one everything deli and it's gross. Yeah And basically all the good food is fancy There's a there's some food that is cheap and not fancy Go to Chinatown or I can go to like the Bon Me place if that's about it though So it's like if you eat the cheap food you're gonna be eating the same food every day, which is no good Yeah, so I try to find a different solution my previous solution used to be to bring bread peanut butter and jelly to work and make sandwiches and You know keep it cheap, but I really don't want to eat peanut butter and jelly every day More like I used to well I made I made a conscious decision in fact we thought about doing the show on lunch We looked up and sure enough we did a show on lunch and I said something in that show and I'll say it again Now as it's relevant I made the decision a long time ago when I didn't have a lot of money that I was willing to pay What it cost to have a good hot lunch every goddamn day that I do not have to make myself And I consider that a cost of it's weird on your time square There were I could save like it was multiple dollars per day cheaper than where I am now, but anyway So for once, you know, I made a Some dinner I cooked some dinner and I actually brought the leftovers to work And I was like I finally brought the leftovers to work. Go I did it I'm gonna pay zero dollars effectively for lunch today My co-workers are all on a kick with that lately everyone's like who did you bring today or did you bail? That's it everyone and my you know a lot of people in my work. They bring the fridge is like totally full Well, one person actually cook and remember to do it now one person brings everyone else gets impressed like whoa You actually did it. No, I should do it too. Almost everyone does it But I don't I go out and like sit down at a restaurant the day that I brought in my leftovers to eat The microwave at work is broken And it won't be fixed to like tomorrow. Ah, so I brought so I brought the leftovers home During your fridge now, I'll either microwave them and leave or go home then microwave See when I would bring lunches like the few times I would do that I would never rely on a microwave at the remote destination partly because I don't like reheating things with microwaves They tend not to how can there's certain things that I mean it's like yes, it's true If I'm gonna reheat say I don't know Like a Sandwich I worked in a place once that had a fucking stove I mean, we have a toaster oven I can reheat things in but it's like I'm gonna if I'm gonna reheat a sandwich I'll do that in a toaster oven so it's nice and crisp. Yeah, right, but if I'm gonna reheat a bowl of pastas I'm not gonna do that in a toaster oven that doesn't work. It dries out. You got to do it in the microwave That's a microwave anything mushy is a microwave reheating see I would only ever bring lunches that were things that didn't require reheating I cooked a pasta for dinner and now it's still it's not gonna magically change into a sandwich It needs to be reheated in the microwave Yeah, I don't know I just I it was partly when I was working in that hospital. I was in Yonkers. There were Well, what I say were there was one place you could get lunch without driving somewhere Oh boy So I would walk 20 minutes to that one place and you know what it was it was a sit-down Italian restaurant Nice, but because it was in Yonkers. It was actually really cheap So every day for lunch, I'd have like spaghetti or like a lasagna like real Italian food for like six bucks Yeah, I'm used to when in Midtown the lunches were usually like $8. He'd end up spending $10 maybe for lunch It's like $15 and $3 a day adds up real I got if I just go to the print in Midtown It's like nine bucks for a mediocre sandwich. That's not enough food The other thing is like a lot of times it's not enough food. No, and I'm still hungry and it's just like that's not good The only thing that saves me is that there's an unlimited Pantry in my job. So I can basically get free breakfast and constant snacks like bananas and stuff It's like up in you know where I was in Midtown I can go to the food import which is an overpriced supermarket. Yeah, but you think oh, that's an overpriced supermarket Guess what down in Soho? It's a Dean in Deluca, which is a one-percenter supermarket A little bit even though the commute was longer I miss working downtown because I could get it like go-go curry that is plenty of food for like Six dollars. That's what that's the kind of places I'm need for my lunch if I had enough of those places that I didn't have to eat I mean, I you know the problem was I went to go-go curry like twice a week. That's bad news That's bad news for a lot of reasons. That sounds like good news to me I don't it's good. Well, you know what it is like all things. It's good news until it's bad news It sounds like it's just good news in the immortal words of Dave Riley The best thing in life is pooping and the worst thing in life is too much pooping I think to go curries a week will not be too much pooping. Yeah, the problem is I wanted to go that third time. No I'd be holding back at the second time So there's a bunch of news going on But I do have an opening bit too because you might have noticed We didn't live stream some of our shows recently and then we started up again and the one Livestream we did earlier in this week Scott was really quiet so the deal is we've had a lot of Hardware issues in the Geek Nights pipeline lately because the the mixer we use is Hella decommissioned like it is to even doubt you know a decommission means so do you mean deprecated or discontinued? So it's not just so it's not just discontinued. It is discontinued to the point that I can't even get support It's actually hard to download the drivers There's like I even tried to download them and back them up on your next I did download I have them backed up on the NAS It is to the point where hardware failures like I even contacted third-party people like yo well That might be a problem if you know windows 11 comes out and the drivers don't work. Yeah I'm already at the point where I have an extra firewire card that I know works with this thing in case The card I use doesn't work anymore So you might need to keep like a computer around with the old software on it in case you know I'm uh well the software is auditioned luckily at the same like you know if you say one day when does it You might want to like grab a laptop that has a fire You know an old laptop with a firewire my hope runs Windows 10 My only hope is that the audio hardware industry Joins the modern world before this mixer dies Because I do not want to buy another mixer because I love the hell out of this thing and It's shocking how shitty most of the even professional audio equipment out there is if you want a digital mixer and You're not willing to spend like eight to ten thousand dollars I looked and I saw tons of new mixers that had lots of fancy features that could be good for example Integrate with apps they have touch screens They don't have too many yeah software instead of having hardware control, but then they say things like yeah 24 channels But no it's 24x2 channels or sometimes it's 24 analog channels 2x2 digital right and it'll be like when you plug in the USB 3 cable There's only two channels odd because it's just a stereo sound card Whereas this a real digital mixer in audition will actually every single channel on the mixer will be a different That's the only the only feature we need we don't need all these other features They've crammed in there like a flex and shit because they're podcasting Is that there should be at least like four to eight channels in audition all separately. Yep, that's it That's all we need I use more than that so the other things we use because in the Geeknice pipeline is The thing is we don't do it because we haven't interviewed anyone in for fuck You give me there are other ways we get interview people though without doing that Yeah, but they're a pain in the ass and also I have this integrated into the room like I can throw a channel Into the Mott like the speakers in the room or the headphones I use this mixer as my sound card and it's it's kind of great actually to have those capabilities Like I can record audio from the computer I could actually pipe our voices into audition and have a real-time pipeline to have the effects come back into the mixer for the live stream But I'm actually using the old compressor for that because that's just easier But again like this mixer has inserts and all that stuff So the a big part of why these mixers all suck is that all the companies that make USB mixers Still just use USB to Like webcams to like there really aren't USB 3 webcams or USB 3 mixers. Why don't we just make one because I Don't know what the market is for these. Hmm. I actually asked around you'll find out So I actually asked around I dug around Kickstarter if there's a market it'll you'll get Kickstarter because you might be asking But I think oh, we'll make a Kickstarter But then we'll be one of those people who don't deliver because what do we know? We'll just set the goal so ridiculously high that if we get that amount of money We're guaranteed to succeed exactly if we get like five million dollars. It's like I think we can do it We can you know, we can deliver to the people and if we don't then we don't do it But I asked my friends who work in like professional podcast I asked people who are like in studios. I even asked people at my job because where I work We have professional recording studios I went to the recording studio and fucking looked at what they got the same shit I got everyone's just running the legacy hardware because it's still the best hardware There's a but it's no all these companies that produce this equipment have to be are they like is People buying the new equipment because otherwise they'd be out of business It seems like are they not selling or maybe they are selling and if those people who are buying what are they doing? Yeah, and it seems like are they all musicians is they doing musicians only and they don't a lot of people who are You know and talk people a lot of the people who are at the level of sophistication that Geek Knights is for audio They primarily do live Mixing where you need analog you need all that crazy analog shit So the room like the house has good audio like that But they're not really trying to record the level of quality that we're recording. They're recording the final mix They're recording like some track inserts. It's a very different production pipeline from talk radio Talk radio is still using this shit talk radio is still literally using maranches I went to a professional recording studio Yesterday, and what did I see sitting on the desk through the window a fucking Marantz PMD 660 The same thing I got sitting right here that hasn't been manufactured since like 2003 So, yeah, I just want this mixer to last and I'm gonna see if I can physically fix some of the ports that have died You're gonna break it. We'll try to fix it and that's gonna be the end. Yeah, I'll cry I did open it up though to take a look and I actually looked at the fire in there the magic smoke came out I could solder in there. It's not that complicated. It's pretty well documented actually all this stuff Uh-huh, right. So some other news might have noticed I think I mentioned this on Geek Nights a while ago But there was a weird story that kept popping up in the real news Like I saw this on FARC and then like months later It started appearing in crackpot news, but eventually it started appearing on like CNN and like Washington Post and like real news and it was this story about like Sonic attacks. Didn't we talk about this again? We did in Cuba. We did so I think the final thing I saw about that was that it wasn't actually intentional It was some sort of accident where they just had a bunch of different equipment all set up near each other That happened to combine in a bad way Unluckily and it's because due to incompetence and not due to some genius, you know Intentional thing so I read that same story and that was I mean the thing is I don't have none I don't know all of this was just articles. There's no I haven't seen any actual Evidence for any of this. I haven't even seen somebody like set up like in a test lab like proof that this happened And so right so basically that was a plausible explanation Mm-hmm. It's happening in other US embassies now It's happening in China and they did we just have the US just evacuated a bunch of diplomats for basically the exact same symptoms the exact same problem My guess, you know, so the more and then it appears that mass hysteria is ruled out the doctors have found actual specific brain damage No, no, no, I'm saying is that I don't think it's caused by a You know say audio. I don't think just because audio is just vibrating air. I don't think I can cause brain damage. Yes, it can Yes, it can. I think that it is more likely caused by maybe a virus or a parasite or something like that But that virus or parasite fucks with your ear. So you think you're hearing sounds you ain't hearing or so It's not just that people are hearing sounds There's a you'd like this article actually goes into a little more explanation and a little more detail about it But the ultrasonic attack thing is still not actually ruled out and still seems to be feasible Because the deal is Sound waves. I think it's something else that causes an audio hallucination It's not just audio hallucination hallucination. It's physical damage to the brain. Yeah, the parasite or virus causes damage to your brain And gives you an auditory hallucination. Yeah, but this is my reasonable guess. Yeah So the crazy thing is that this is now happening in multiple places. Yeah, you know, this tells me Let's not travel to any countries that really hit the US so much in case we have to end up going to the embassy I saw a great tweet that was like 99% of everyone outside of North America who has a Canadian flag displayed is an American And I can feel that I mean we Emily and I were in Australia right before the election and It was rough even then and now it's getting rougher Yeah, oh there's a crazy story I didn't make my news because I don't fucking understand it or believe it about this town that has 12 people in it in Like the like the fucking nowhere in Australia. Okay. Was it just the word? Oh, I written 12 times So somebody disappeared from the town and the government's pretty sure the town fucking murdered this dude And all agreed to keep it quiet and they can't prove it I mean, it's the only reasonable explanation. So therefore there's no reasonable doubt I think they murdered a dog too. There's also a hint if there is no other reasonable explanation Then it's beyond reasonable doubt. That's all the evidence you need and there's no other reasonable explanation That is not the standard of American jurisprudence or law at least It's Australia It's just like oh, but this story was so crazy I didn't have time to read it enough to even talk about it But I think the real thing we need to do is avoid US consulates and embassies in countries that hate us It sounds good. I'll just go to some other countries embassy instead. Yeah, but this story just it It's you know, okay You'll see like a crazy story and if you're a reasonable person you think that is probably not true And I will ignore it unless I keep seeing it This one keeps happening and I'm getting increasingly fascinated by it So maybe they're hoping that some of that maybe it is like a virus or parasite And they're hoping that the diplomat or someone will eventually meet the president and pass it on I mean like this is in the realm Something like that about the Ukrainian guy who faked his own death to catch the Russian assassin That guy's badass. They're gonna. They're gonna make a movie about that probably at least it'll be at least made for TV movie And I might watch it if not Hollywood movie And it will definitely be out within like a year because that story already is literally twice as crazy as you realize Like the story escalated way percent true it escalated way beyond what we already know But again, I didn't read it deep enough to talk about it I read enough in some other news if you ever been in New York, there's a we have this huge bridge Between New York and the rest of the country. It's called New Jersey I don't know if anyone's ever been to it Mm-hmm, but to get to that land bridge you have to go over another bridge called the varizana narrows bridge You can use the George Washington bridge You can but also technically the varizana bridge connects you to Staten Island and not to New Jersey But Staten Island is New Jersey. Well, so The varizana narrow bridge and Staten Island combined is a bridge to New Jersey Which itself is a land right but after you go over the varizano and then over this elevated highway that allows you to not touch Staten Island like it's hot lava you go over either the The what's it called is the Gothel's bridge? Yeah, and then there's the what the cross something I don't know cross island. I forget what it's called. I usually use the Gothels Yeah, it's the other one anyway, so I forget what it's called the varizano narrows bridge is real fucking long I biked over it because if you do normally you cannot bike over it You can only car over it has two levels. Yep, but if you do the five borough bike tour It's like the only part of it worth doing is that you can bike on roads that are otherwise unbikable like the FDR and the BQE And it's way and then the varizano, so I did it once and that's enough But you go over the varizana and let me tell you I bike over like the Queensboro bridge every day It's like not even I don't even notice that it's a hill Is It's not that it's like you look at the grade and it doesn't seem like it's so bad It's like fuck that bridge. Yep two miles later. It is long and it's a big hump They keep people keep like campaigning like we want to put a bike path on it I'm like you're never gonna use that And you're just gonna turn right back around Especially when you realize that announce on the other side There's a kind of person who will use that and you're not gonna be able to bike If you're trying, you know you once you get to the other side on if there's no bike path now You can't go on the highway instead I'm gonna go down and actually touch that lava. Yeah, you do not want to touch Staten Island You're gonna you're gonna bike as fast as you can back to the ferry because you can go back over the bridge And get your eyes back to civilization the varizano narrows bridge is named after Giovanni de varizano Some Italian guy so there's a bunch of crazy shit going on with this bridge and Giovanni de varizano So in the 50s the italian-american community was really I guess concerned about its image in america and it made a Concerned funded effort to get things named after italians all around the country funded with the money from The family and one of those things was they wanted this bridge Which was just going to be called the narrows bridge to be named after Giovanni de varizano Why is it called the narrows it crosses the least narrow part? That's actually the it's the narrowest part If you wanted to put a bridge down there anywhere else is way less narrow I guess so and they needed a bridge there So we do need a bridge there new york and robert moses is like the response to this was who the fuck is Giovanni de varizano Because apparently giovanni de varizano is less objectionable than a lot of the explorers Like it doesn't seem like there's a lot of genocide in his history like certain other people But he was really unlucky and that he discovered for white people a bunch of important things He's one of the more important explorers. I never heard about him in school. Yeah, no one heard about him I heard about like fucking pans de leon and he happened to discover all about spanish explorers He happened to discover all these things in the 1500s while Magellan and the conquistadors were happening So everyone paid attention to all that nonsense and ignored the fact that he basically discovered like new york harbour for white people Didn't henry hudson discover uh, no that was way later and you're one of those people varizano's reputation quote of recording wikipedia was particularly obscure in new york city where the 1609 voyage of henry henry hudson was regarded as the de facto start of european exploration of new york Even though giovanni de varizano mapped all that shit in like 15 19. Fuck you school Yeah telling me wrong So nobody remembered this dude at all and new york city was like why the fuck could we name it after him and the italian community was like because here's a pile of money shut up We spelled it wrong They fucked up and spelled it with one z and when they realized it it was too late to change it So that's why it has to and it's supposed to have three it's supposed to have two z's it only has one I thought I had two z's. Yeah, apparently a lot of people think it only has it apparently this is why this is the news I'm pretty sure it has two z's Uh, this is why I've never seen a sign with only one z on it So this is the news june 7th 2018 There is a bill in the new york state senate assembly that just passed unanimously wait the senate assembly The new york state senate passed the bill unanimously That would correct the spelling of the name and add the second z Yeah, unanimous To add a z to the name of the varizano bridge. I thought it had two z's already Yeah, not only did it not but it's been spelled wrong forever And for almost a hundred the statue At the base of the fucking bridge as it's that was made at the same time as the bridge was spelled correctly With two z's all right. It's spelled correctly. I feel like all the green highway signs have two z's on them Yeah, I might remember my remembering wrong because I know how to spell I think my brain my brain just transforms a misspelled word into a correctly spelled world when I look at it I think It's the mandela. I can't even go over and look because I have a car Yeah, so the bill was now sent to the assembly where it must pass and then koa mo will have to sign it Apparently the assembly will vote yes Apparently they tried to do this earlier this year and the assembly didn't fucking vote. Yes The assembly is usually like the one who votes yes all the time and everything it's held up in the senate I cannot for the life assembly actually has voted for things like universal health care for all new yorkers and the senate won't vote Not so I cannot Why is this the opposite situation? I do not know and no one will tell me and my research came up with this makes no sense Yeah, this is the first time in new york state history where the new york state senate did something right And the assembly is doing something why do we need a lot of fixed spelling? Uh, like the dot here the port authority just fix it. Uh, they don't need it Why don't you know a lot for that? This is my more meta argument Why the fuck does new york state have any fucking say in anything we do down here? That is what I'm actually mad about. I mean, why is you even need a law to make the name of a bridge? Can't just like you know the port authority or mta whoever runs the pretty sure it's a port authority The outer bridge crossing is the other one. Yeah, that's the other one. Thanks to amanda. Okay Okay, I think we killed enough time on the news with that Why is amanda watching? How do you work we got seven people watching just something better to do People like the live stream. What do you want? Also the new production pipelines things we're working. Okay. I think the audio is better All right, uh, right. We're talking about indian food. Okay But anyway things of the day So I found this video. It's like 10 minutes long where this dude is like I'm a make a bike where the entire frame Is made out of springs that will not work the bike will just go blurp and fall over and this video is an exploration You will have you will have a sculpture made that looks like a bike that is made of springs That will be impossible to ride and it will not stand up. This video basically tracks A long journey of this person Trying to make a bike Where the frame consists entirely of springs and failing In most of the endeavor. Yes And it's pretty funny and pretty interesting. There's points where he's Like talking to people who manufacture springs and like that simpsons episode where uh Mullman is like I need the biggest seed bell you've got No That's too big He is not talking to people who make industrial springs where he's like I need the stiffest spring you got and they're like, yeah, so we have a 40 000 spring that's a foot wide And he's like, okay, let's back it off And eventually he Is able to replace the entire core of the frame of the bicycle with springs Yeah, not the whole frame just part the basically like the the top bar and the three bars He made one where the the struts for the front tire were made of springs And it did not it was unbikable. Yes. I think what someone should do though. This is a stupid idea. I think right This is all stupid It's cute But I think would be not that would be much cooler Would be to make a bike entirely of shocks because then the springs would do what they're supposed to do And only spring in the one, you know axis and not wobble a bike sideways Yeah, did right a watch never ride this thing when he finishes it. It's just like so you would have a Right, you know, you have a bike that is flexible forward and back and up and down in certain dimensions But you wouldn't have like the front part of the bike going warp to the left or the right making it unrightable Anyway, I think that that would actually be it probably still wouldn't work too well But it could actually be way comfortable like the bike would get longer or shorter as necessary Right, you could depending on how the stiffness of the springs, I would you probably just use Yeah, I would use I would use adjustable like pneumatic shocks that way you could like, you know ease up certain ones and stiffen other ones so that you can get the bike like just right It would probably the smoothest fucking ride You probably wouldn't even feel the ground at that point. I want a computer controlled active ground cancellation bike The only reason I think that won't work is because you won't have enough feel to carry a battery big enough to power the Computer and such. Yeah Because you all the sensors you would need and plus, you know, it's like Just plug it in really long extension cord. It would be a tank like bike But this video is pretty funny because in the end He does make a functioning bike that has three springs barely fun for some definitions of functions He's able to ride it like look it's going sure he's pedaling Uh-huh it's going barely and he explores fully what this bike is capable of and it's not much Nope I think that Just making a gif of that one but up but up but up part. I think illustrates the whole thing. That's all I need to see So you got a thing of the day I got two things of the day. Why not one of them is just a gif I saw on twitter of this dog. He float Oh, he float and I wanted uh when I saw this gif it had such a profound impact on me I wanted to immediately leave work and float and I'm still considering just leaving here and floating I can just go they won't stop me if I just go to the airport and give them my credit card They will take me to a place where the water is warm. They will not object No one will stop me and then when I get there I can give my credit card to someone else And they will give me a place to sleep and float. Yep That's a thing that will happen You can keep floating till one day that person comes back and says sir your credit card was declined And then I will go back to the airport It could happen I could do it I'm thinking about it The water at sandy hook is 68 degrees. That's too cold. We are five degrees away from the bare minimum I'm willing to put my body in that water. We are 10 degrees away from I will swim So I went to here's my real thing of the day. Uh, it's not just a gif So, you know, I pretty much have you know, you know, sometimes you get, you know In a consumer materialist mood and you start buying stuff, right? Yeah, it's always that thing when I go to amazon to buy like a serious thing I start looking at all their serious purchases I've been holding off on the same time a while ago like a year or two ago I bought basically every kind of camera that I ever needed my life and I actually used them all None of them became bowling balls I did a good job of buying exact amount of camera stuff that I use it all to the correct degree Where I don't feel regret buying any of it and I didn't buy too much and as soon as I bought like enough I like lost all desire to buy more camera stuff Like I have no desire to buy another lens or camera because I already have Every single situation I've got covered except for taking photos of space Which I can't do like Ignite's once and if I had to I would just rent I would keep reading about microphone Once we bought the countrymen and these beta mics I've got every microphone. I'll need forever. Maybe I'll get one shotgun mic And I'm good for life Anyway, but I then discovered the other day someone posted one of those gifts where it's like, you know It animates a little bit like to the left and right it wiggles and it looks Right. It's one of those wiggling gifts that looks 3d, but it's not I like those Yeah, uh, and usually know this different phone can just make them I know a lot of people make them using different techniques. Well, my phone has two cameras, so Yeah, well, I mean there's a lot of different techniques for making them, but apparently this person, you know Did it with a thing called a nimslow and I was like, what the fuck is a nimslow? A nimslow is apparently this old camera. There's another cheaper version That's like a conica something or whatever, but the nimslow is the good one where it's a 35 millimeter film camera It just has four fucking lenses on it with four shutters Oh, and it makes lenticular and and you take a picture and when you take a picture It uses the amount of space on the film that would normally be used for two normal 35 millimeter shots And it basically cuts each frame in half and uses two frames So if you have a roll of film that has 36 shots, you would get 18 shots Right with this and each shot gives you four slightly different angles on the same thing It's a completely automatic camera. It requires basically no focus autofocus No, you don't got to do anything. I just push the button and if it's too dark you put a flash on it You don't got to adjust the f-stop. You don't go to just the shutter speed You're gonna do nothing you just aim it and shoot it takes four shots slightly different angles of the same thing Simultaneously just lens lens lens lens When you get home you scan your four shots in photoshop You drag you put them on four layers you put them on top of each other and you tell Photoshop, hey make an animated gif go frame one two three four three two And then you're back to one again and then loop it and then you've got one of those things And I kind of wanted this and it's only like you know for like a new one in box from the olden days that was never open Is like 250 on ebay You know so it looks like before 250 is probably too much before the era of gifting people would use this camera To make physical versions of that with the lenticular print. Well people would use this in the olden days I think there was actually a way to make an actual 3d image somehow develop Yeah, lenticular printing you would look at it with you know the the piece of plastic on it with the ridges That's called lenticular printing. Oh, okay. I kept I didn't I look here. See that yeah So I don't know how to print one of those things with the ridges but Yeah, uh, I kind of want this I haven't bought it yet But I kind of wanted lenticular printing got pretty cheap toward the end of the 90s Like I recall there was a yeah now. I haven't seen it hardly at all recently It's coming back. I feel like because everyone looks at things on the screen So there's no interest in having a still image on a piece of so from what I gather Relatively recently like in the last few years. There was a further advance where it's way fucking cheap to print this so people are starting to make like Small low-key cheapo merch like keychains and things that has lenticular printing again Because now it's in the realm of like geek nights could make a thing Pretty cheaply and just do it. All right. Well go buy me a nims low so I can Yeah, I'll buy you a nims low after I buy a new camera for geek nights I'm telling you which one to buy already. Now. I'm gonna camcorder Okay, I don't I I want an actual camcorder the features of a camcorder compared to the features of A micro four thirds just like real camera that can do video The only real feature that the camcorder offers is the larger shape of it the physical Object the integrated XLR and all that's just built in. I mean, yeah, you can get one of those little thingy attached on top Yeah, this is just built into the camera body. I don't have to put anything on top as a like a built-in ND filter Otherwise, they're really it's actually built-in video lens I don't need to get like a expensive lens to go with most of the good camcorders have lens mounts on the front these days Not built-in lenses Depends depends on which one i'm looking at the zoni and the panasonic usually they're worse video quality There's a larger there's a new panasonic one that just came out with a one-inch sensor. That's pretty good one inch is way small Yeah, but for what I need it's fine I don't need a full frame camera. We're not we're not I don't have a full frame camera either I will never In the better moment the geekness book club book is emily wilson's translation of the odyssey By homa. I read all the uh, you know the famous parts with the sirens and all Yeah, I gotta catch up then we gotta finish it if you're reading that raid i'll finish the book Also, that part is for being the most famous part that is the most sure adapted is like one is like less than a page long Yep, it's like all that stuff happens in this one chapter and it's like people think that that's the whole odyssey That's like a few pages of I think it's just american kids in high school They only read like three sections of the odyssey. No, I think it's that You know popular culture adapted this one part of the odyssey so heavily And ignored all the other parts But most of the people we talked to like geekness fans who were talking we were like reading the book with us None of them remembered any of this telemica stuff Like you don't remember the everyone thinks the book starts with the point is to be thinking if you're Think you know the odyssey or if you read the pop-up book You should read this real new avid meditation of the book So you can actually understand what the whole deal is because I bet you don't Yep, and we're going to do a whole show on it and we're going to assume you're ready Also, I hope she finishes that iliad because all the all this does is make me Like want to read the iliad. I want to that's where I hold the agamemna anything she translates achilles is I'm going to those are my boys. This doesn't have a voice in it so much I'm going to read every if she goes if she does more greek stuff already at all. What if she what if she translates Antigone, no the uh The story of rim melpupo If there's a story about me Written in ancient greek. I feel like I need to read it. Yeah, it talks about awful. You are you're the worst I Once there was a rim. He was the worst the end Do you have you read like antigone or like any of that stuff? I think the one I actually want to read is this um Uh, what was it? I forget what it is some guy with the x in his name and it's a story about like Xenophon It's one of those the xenophon stuff. This is why I forget what it was I think you're thinking of xenophon. There's something like that It was a story about like a traveling through turkey or something on some sort of adventure Apparently a lot of stuff is based on this story. Oh the one that the warriors is based on Okay, I just I I went to xenophonist No, go to the wikipedia page for the warriors the movie and this the warriors is based on a book and the book is based on an ancient story Oh, right. You sent me a link to that before That warriors Right because it's about traveling through on it's about going on this difficult journey, right? Yeah to escape Which is what about the warriors is about and you know, so Well, let's hope Emily Wilson translates all this stuff Otherwise a you should follow both me and scott on youtube because we both are uploading and also twitter and facebook Yeah, but youtube in particular because we made a new geek nights present to tenna We uploaded our last talk from packs. We're uploading a lot of our panels. We're doing judge anime by its cover We're doing geek nights presents board games. There's a lot of geek nights content on youtube We'll never abandon the podcast but Kids today tomorrow podcast the end Geek nights over this is the last episode I guess The kids are on youtube. So that's where a lot of our stuff is No, there he goes. He's he's he's confident. It's at the end Food it is. No, there's like 11 people watching People do something else go make something instead of listening to this Maybe they're remixing us right now. They're doing their own live stream You should be doing that of us if anyone with their If any one of those viewers is actually using the creative commons license and is re streaming us with commentary Of what we want to see the red soup play of you. You are not wasting your time. Good job I applaud that and I want to listen to it So full disclosure We do a lot of shows on food like that's the that's the thing we do on thursday's That's you know on thursday we run out of ideas. That's what happens to send us your thursday ideas But I want to be very clear any show idea that requires no research Uh, and is not technology gaming or anime or comics or manga related You know what I could do again I could let the patreon just vote on it But if they vote on something bad, it's their fault if we do a bad show I don't want to make a bad show though, but then we'll blame it on them They paid for that episode I'm actually not too worried about making a bad show. I'm worried about sitting here and saying nothing Yeah, because then there's no show But I feel like our thing is that it doesn't matter what the topic is we can somehow end up talking forever I mean we can hopefully I mean we could find a tangent and talk about that's all we need The first four years of geek nights was just well, we're gonna talk about tangent 40 minutes of tangent, but then I feel like I didn't do the show on the thing I was said I was gonna do the show on doesn't matter. We just got to make a show We just changed the show title later on Yeah, rerecord the intro It's just geek nights thursday. They're all just called geek nights thursday The lounge sure So full disclosure though, we are not indian. No, we are not authority as an indian food No, I I don't actually know that much about indian food I'm not even going to pretend that I know the regional differences of indian food Nope with the caveat that I do know a little bit about hydra bad food Because because you went there because I spent a lot of I have probably spent a total of like Five or six months in hydra bad over the years like I've spent a lot of time in hydra bad I love hydra bad food and the way I will describe food from hydra bad is that You know when you get indian food is really spicy So if you go to hydra bad and you get the non spicy food, it's that spicy If you get the spicy hydra bad food, you're dead. You're done. That's it game over But are there people in hydra bad eating that spicy food? Oh, they're eating that food and they're complaining about how it's not that spicy Uh, they as the first time I was in hydra bad I was warned why don't we send Judith there? I was worried the food was spicy because I was warned from my friends in Mumbai They're like, yeah, just be warned Hydra bad food is spicy I'm sure there are people though who live if people tend to think that when someone comes from a country that has Is known for its spicy food. They think like oh Thai people they can all eat spicy food Some people know there's plenty of Thai people who can't eat spicy food and there's plenty of Thai food That's not spicy and they know they just eat that it's not It's like even though a country has spicy food and is known for it Don't mistakenly think that all the people there love the spicy food I'm sure there's people in hydra bad who don't eat the spicy food and ask for mild food Right. No, there's nothing wrong with that. There's a Thai place narrows called tuk-tuk and one cool thing about it It's a good place It is a real good place. They have a special menu like on the back page They have a menu that is five or six Thai dishes that are not in any way americanized There's no substitutions. They explain what they are. They explain the history. You can order them But they make it very clear If you are unable to eat it, it's your fucking fault. No refunds and I mean, isn't that the true with all restaurant food? If I go to a place unless the food is like poisoned or has you know metal shards in or glass I don't expect a refund. Yeah, but I find that most places are unhooked or something I think the reason is it's got to be really messed up for me to ask for my money back I think in this case the reason is White folk will order this food and it is too spicy for them and then they can't eat it. Well That's your own fault. Yep. So the the menu is like listen kid This is actual Thai food. That's right But uh, so yeah, I got I got some like lamb biryani because I was like I have some of that in my fridge Yeah, I'm gonna reheat it tomorrow. Maybe yeah hydra bet is known specifically Which I did not know then for its fucking spicy biryani And I was defeated by this dish in the hotel See when if I'm gonna travel to a country that doesn't speak it english, right? Uh, even if you know, even if the people there do speak english, even though it's that's not their primary language I'm always gonna make sure that the phrase I got to learn is always Please serve me or a local specialty in whatever language it is And I'll just go there and as long as it's not a thing that I don't eat Which is a very short list like octopus and dolphin and whale and you anything too smart monkey brain We gotta hold it as long as it's not one of those things It's just like bring it on I want to eat whatever your best thing is and whoever you eat it And if it kills me because it's too spicy. All right If I went out and went out good if turkey calms down and is safe to travel to again And maybe the u.s. Is hardly come down and safe to travel to yeah But I'm a turkey if for that if that is what you want Istanbul is the place to go You want you want like the any restaurant you go to as an american They're gonna be like do you want to try the like our delicacy? Do you want like they're really into the specific river fish that they get right there in Istanbul sounds good It's so good I think I think of all the places I've traveled in my life Istanbul had the best food right but anyway india so back in the day I was not a big fan of indian food. I've always I've always been a person like not always but at least in my adult life I've always been a person who was willing to try any food Right. It's like Indian food was just very rare Because I grew up in the midwest in a suburb. It was very you know, my you know My family was it's weird because when I was a kid I was you know, my brother was you know, super picky like french fries and you know I remember that We'd all eat steak and he'd have his chicken I have like a piece of chicken nuggets and french fries kind of you know It seems to be a thing a lot of picky eaters do right? But anyway, I was less picky But I was more picky than like my parents But as when I became an adult and moved out and was able to eat a different food and not the food that was You know given to me or available in a suburb I was like, oh other food is good And now my parents and my family are way pickier than I am But you know, even though I was willing to try any food once Right at least you know when I tried Indian food. I wasn't really that into it You know, it's like I remember I was like, um, you know I think we lived in beacon and I know it was that Indian place next to the uh to the dragon's den Oh, yeah, that place is pretty good. I and I went there, you know Like a few times with those uh because you know, that's where people were eating after playing games of the dragon's den Right, so I would go there, but you know the food there wasn't really that you know It wasn't doing it for me so much, right? So I wasn't that into Indian food But you know what, you know a lot of people out there when they don't like a food, right? They just refuse to eat it, but it's like I'm I'm like, all right. Listen. I don't like this But you know, it's not gonna poison me. All right And you know the group would be you know, the whole crew to get together and be like Indian food And I'd be like, I don't want to go Indian food Right, but then I would go because I wasn't going to be a baby, right? Like some people are whoever if you're you know, I'm not gonna say any names, but you know who you are You know who you are people who say no, I'm not eating that. I mean, obviously allergies, you know vegetarians vegans That's all valid excuses. Yeah Things like that, right? I'm talking about I don't like like I don't like natto. I'm just yeah I don't like not to either, but you know what if everyone's like, hey, let's go to the natto place I'm not gonna be that you know socially ruining person. Yeah, I'll go Maybe I'll order a natto and begrudgingly eat it slowly like an adult. That's one difference between us You'll begrudgingly eat. I'm perfectly willing to go hungry. Oh, you'll go hungry and not even eat the natto I will happily go hungry rather than eat food. I don't like the other thing I'll do is I'll find something on the menu to eat if there is right like especially like You know a lot of times I don't understand the kind of person who can go to a restaurant And there's not one goddamn thing on that menu that even if I go to like a super seafood restaurant There's always like one steak on there. Yeah, right? Because there's always the baby meal. There's always a hamburger I wouldn't do that, but Anyway, male chicken nuggets the thing the point that I'm trying to make is that you know I was not a big fan of Indian food. Even though you tried quite a few different dishes There were some things I liked like who doesn't like a non right and as a bread But you know, I wasn't into it, but we look at tolerant people people kept. Yeah, but I'm sure they like it They just can't eat it. Yeah, yeah, that is true We kept going to eat it over and over again And I kept trying different things there and discovering new things at you know new Things on the Indian, you know restaurant menus And trying different styles of Indian food and now I order Indian food on my own for delivery Yeah, right and I think the thing is is a lot of people who don't like a thing And they don't even want to try it and it's like just keep begrudgingly eating it and develop a taste for it Now well, I've noticed I've noticed a lot of people there's a thing where people will try Food that is from a particular region or ethnicity or nation And if they don't like it They assume that that region's food is all one that exact thing. They just tried to eat and too bad That's imagine if someone tried a hamburger. They're like, oh, I don't like American food So now they won't try fried chicken. Yep, which is American food also Right. It's like that's not right Another thing I think that happens is the people get a bad first impression and pass a judgment And unlike anime where you can totally do that just fine They'll try say a bad they'll try a fruit and that fruit that they try for the first time this new fruit Maybe it's like a durian Not a durian They'll try like a mango for the first time and they'll try a mango that's not ripe and delicious Oh my god Scott and then they'll judge all mangoes and now they won't drink a mango lassi So Scott, I know you don't watch uh, it's always sunny in Philadelphia But there's a scene that is relevant to your interests Where basically there's one guy who's like never been outside of Philly in his entire life Okay, that's the deal like he's a character like they imagine When I was in Florida in the 90s like late 90s, or maybe it was even too early 2000s Uh, I needed a haircut because it was too hot and I still had hair And I just went to a rando haircut place and the lady who cut my hair Who was in her 40s or something at the time? I just went wherever She told me she had never she was like, oh, are you from like oh, I'm from you know Like, uh, I guess I was in I don't know if I was in New York or Connecticut or whatever But she's like I never left Florida in her whole life And she was like 40 or 50 something I mean, I read a statistic a while ago that a good 20 of americans have never lived outside of the county They were born in but I mean she'd never left period traveled Not even in a car not even to georgia Well, at least new york city I'm more willing to accept why someone might live that way because I've been outside of new york city. I'm just saying But so this scene so this dude who's never been outside of philly They're having some like normal steinfeld style conversation and it turns out he's never had a pair Doesn't even know what a pair is he's never Encountered one so they're like you gotta get a pair and they like stop at a market And they're like buy a pair from like a dude and they hand it to him Bites into it and he's like, ah, no, I don't like this. I don't like this at all. They're like what what he can It's a pair. What do you not like about? He's like It's sandy and bland and then they look and like it's not a right pair And they have this whole thing about the it's true It's true See pairs are one of those things where they're only good if you get the right variety of pair And it's perfectly ripened the right amount otherwise It just tastes like a nothing fruit if it's a ripe then it's a sweet and sugary fruit But the thing about pair is unlike other fruits. It doesn't sort of have a flavor to go along with its sweetness It's literally like just sweet and that's it. It tastes like pear Yeah, but pear doesn't have a strong flavor the way to say certain apples Yeah, but then there's then there's if you want to really taste certain other apples that just taste like sweet Yes, it's true But all pairs look at you red delicious. You're the worst apple exactly But the point is if you want to taste a really good pair The best way to taste really the best pair just get canned pair Get yeah get canned pair bits in pear juice at the store and just eat it with a spoon And that is probably the best pair that I was a kid I would just open up a can of canned pairs and just eat it right out there There were actually at the grocery store when I was a kid There was actually it would they sold canned pear as like you were as snack as like you a pack of four I had those too. I ate those like every day. I'd eat. I was hungry in a can of pear and eat it So in high school and then I drink the juice instead of bringing the small canned pear with a little like Oh, you got the big like I brought the big one and a can opener I do that with pineapple these days if I don't buy a whole pineapple, I'll buy a can of pineapple It comes in rings. Anyway, Indian food. So Indian food The point I was trying to make earlier about developing a taste for something, right? Is a lot of people make the argument Oh, you could develop a taste for alcohol and or develop a taste for smoking and all these harmful activities And it's like no because those are harmful activities don't develop a taste for them But something like Indian food is not harmful. It's good for you and delicious So even if you don't like it at first You should try to develop a taste for it because it will benefit you in life and also bring you joy without harming you So, you know if there are things in life that are good and would be good if you like them Even if you don't like them originally you should try to develop a taste for them Maybe you don't like sci-fi novels. Well try to read it's they're good So try to read a few maybe you'll develop a taste for them You should at least try a little bit. You know Indian food. You should try drugs. No, don't Don't develop a taste for them either if you could So depending on the drug, I mean My dad is really excited about his medical marijuana card. I'm talking like, you know, don't develop a taste for heroin guys Yeah, that's that's even though you could get used to shooting yourself up. Do not But do get used to curry because it's delicious even if you don't like it at first Maybe try again. We've already been going for like an hour. Have we? Yeah, we didn't talk about any Indian foods though Let's go. Let's go through. Let's just do a best of an Indian food. All right We're only talking about our personal. We gotta start. We gotta start with rim. Mr. Samosa. Samosa. I fucking love Samosa, they are delicious. Oh my god. First of all, first of all, first of all, it's fried So it's got this fried shell, which is delicious and inside inside the fried shell is chickpeas Yeah inside the fried shell is potato, you know, like mashed potato potato and chickpeas are two of my favorite things on earth And in that potato, it's not just potato. It's potato that's been flavored up with all kinds of spices and shit So it looks all yellow or green or yellow and green and then the potato is filled with like peas and chickpeas and other delicious Naughty bits that are in that potato And then it's all been fried and it's nice and warm and toasty and then you dip it in either the red stuff Which is sweet and fruity kind of I'm more than the green stuff these days or the green stuff and you know what when I get samosa They when you order delivery, they give you two samosas Do you dip in both alternately and they give you a red and they give you a green and you know what? I randomly pick one or based on my mood And I eat the first samosa and that and then the next day I heat up the other one and eat it in the other So I have like I think the last one I got I got red So I got a green one see that's the difference Emily and I when we order when we order Indian food We get a samosa it comes with two we each eat one There's never one leftover. I got a leftover. I'm only one person So in terms of naan garlic naan is one of my favorite foods on earth I mean I like all naans and I sort of just keep picking different flavors of naan I'll even eat the plain naan you get more naan flavor because a lot of times the you know onion naan or a garlic naan will cover Up the bread flavor naan to scoop the food together to finish it I do like the rosemary naan quite a bit That's my least favorite naan maybe cheese naan is the naan that I think I like a lot But I don't go for too often because it's too powerful. Yep. It's too filling and strong same with the puri Oh, the puri is one of my favorite things the puri feels when you order a puri You feel like you're wasting your money because you're paying basically a lot of money for a lot of nothing It's basically a bread balloon. Yeah, it's like so thin You're but it feels like eating like just the crust of a bread like you're peeling the crust off of a bread But it's so good Only eating the crust But yeah, it's basically Just a balloon of bread and you pop it and then you eat it and it's delicious I'm a in terms of like Core indian food like main dishes. I think the sogs are my favorite types The green spinachy maybe with the cheese like that. That's my go-to Not the chicken tiki masala. That's like the american default. Well, I actually like a chicken tiki masala Some places don't spice it up enough and it's just bland as hell Yeah, you gotta have a place where it's you know, it doesn't need to be hot spicy But it needs to have lots of you know aroma going on and some places do it and some places make it Blanded super bland is not good. I like the rogan josh, too But sometimes it's too. I like a rogan josh. Sometimes it gets a little too spicy for me No, that's not too spicy. The thing that gets too spicy for me is um What's it called? chicken uh The chicken what you know where it's all covered in the hot red stuff where it's like just super on fire Uh, not the not the tandoori chicken. No, the tandoori chicken is the one where it's not in a curry, right? It's just on its own. Yep. And it's you put that in a nice yogurt sauce. I love that Actually my favorite thing to eat but I can't anymore because I'm old only at heartburn Is like tandoori chicken and biryani together But as an adult That is too powerful. That is too much. I'm just bringing up the menu here. Yeah I'm just looking through the wikipedia. I'm just getting real hungry. Look at all this in your food Uh, let me see which one I guess the meta point is that I actually don't know enough about indian food Vindaloo vindaloo. That's the one that's too yeah vindaloo is delicious. I love vindaloo I'll order it sometimes but that actually usually it doesn't go into so hot that I'm like needing to eat snow and ice or something But it's usually like crosses the border of my heat tolerance like by like one step And then my head ends up breaking out into sweat and my mouth hurts a little bit But I guess when I go to when I'm at a good indian restaurant I'm ordering from a place in new york. There was a lot of options And I don't know that much about indian food in that depending on what I order I might not actually be a hundred percent sure Exactly what I'm gonna get And I've never been I don't care super wrong. I I'm always I know that I'm gonna get some kind of meat Probably in some kind of sauce or curry or something and I'm gonna put it on rice And based on some of the words I might have a vague idea like something something sag It's gonna be the green stuff But I'm always worded out real in indian places korma. It's gonna be like the yellow white stuff, right? I really love doll. Oh my god dolls like my go to really but a lot of people we know a lot of people I've encountered over the years They Won't order anything from any restaurant let alone indian place unless they know every detail of exactly what is it No, if you like I said if you're allergic or have some sort of dietary restriction, they're not allergic That's completely understandable, right? But if you don't have that kind of restriction Not just indian food. You just order whatever don't ask them to change it Everything on the menu is delicious. It's a little delicious if no one liked it They won't put it on there just keep ordering stuff and keep trying This has been a problem though sometimes we've gone out with a lot of people to get some indian food And I don't remember what I ordered And I don't care what I get. Nope. So whatever plate ends up in front of me. I just eat And sometimes I've eaten someone else's dish and then they come out with the thing I ordered and I'm in trouble Oh, well Oh, the last thing we can't neglect to mention which I already mentioned a little bit is the mango lassi the King of Pro mode is the rose loss. No, that's your pro mode But I don't like the rose loss. You're really only supposed to get that for like weddings But there's a few places I know in new york that'll serve that and I always get it if it's on the menu So good Do not I get the regular mango lassi. I don't want to eat no roses. I do like the uh gallop jump the the uh Fried dough soaked in sweet water with cardamom like that thing. I like that a lot too I mean roti is also good to go to a nice roti shop But the thing is a roti usually the other indian foods that we've talked about that's like you're getting dinner Right roti is something I'll get for lunch or like, you know, I'm just going in real quick. I need some snack I'm biking. I'll stop at the row. I see a roti shop and I'm like, whoa, give me that roti and then I'm on my way All right. Now I'm too hungry. I think we're in the show. Okay, good