 The first two cohorts of those early African Americans and African, Caribbean, U.S. folk who had a relationship with anthropology were trained in anthropology and at least most of them got degrees in anthropology from the most prestigious institutions where there were graduate programs yet most of them, most of you have never heard of and I must admit I'm a student of St. Clair Drake and when I went to Stanford I didn't go there for him because I didn't know who he was and my advisor a very prominent feminist anthropologist couldn't tell me anything about him but Shelley Rosaldo was there, Bridget O'Lough, there were other people who were the magnets but when I got there and met St. Clair Drake you know I mean it changed my life and the way I see the world but I mentioned Drake because Drake is someone who introduced me, I mean not, I mean I had read souls, I had read things like that but I'm saying he gave me a particular take on Du Bois and I realized that he and his mentor Allison Davis were profoundly shaped by the man that they referred to as Dr. Du Bois. I mean they didn't say WB Du Bois or Du Bois, it was Dr. Du Bois.