 No harm done, there was an ad put in place at the start, which we didn't know was going to pop up, but anyway, that's sort of for now, you listen once again, welcome to the deal debate, I appreciate you tuning in. Now on the radio or back via podcast, another pack show and store this evening. Shortly we'll be speaking to GA correspondent, Ger Trissie, to discuss all the weekend's GA action and a new feature on the show, a live story in the next couple of weeks as we build up the championship. We're going to do a few live stories, Colin McFadden will be on the show next week, but this evening we have Nadine Doherty and what a story she has, a remarkable career and time in the GA, unbelievable reading through it over the weekend. I want to put a shout out to Mickey McCann, this time well done for reaching the division 2B League final, coming up short against Meeth, but this is a very impressive league campaign from Donegal, all eyes now on the Nicky Rackard again on the underage front, it doesn't look like Carol Lacey from what I'm here, we'll be back unfortunately, we'll wait and see what the next step is for our academy. In the meantime, Luke Bart and his team are doing their best to keep things ticking over and after the back of our under 20s, of course, Beaton Antrim last week on penalties, our under 17s lifted a trophy for Donegal, beating our neighbours Derry, 1-9 to 9 points, that was the Jim McGuigan cup, well done to them and after the match we heard from their manager Luke Bart. What's special about it? I look again, it's nice to win, it was always going to be a game that was going to be cagey and go down the stretch, they hadn't been, they'd played and dominated the games as well, and we felt confident we could compete with them as well, so look, we brought it right down to the end and we were fortunate, I think to be fair, the boys spotted a bit of danger there, the keeper was a bit of a bother and he pounced on it, but it could have went either way, there were chances either end, but we're glad to come out and try and save it. 5-2 up and in a good spot, going in 1 point, ended at half-ten, were you worried? It wasn't more worried, more than disappointed, because I felt that we had, after 15 minutes, the first half, we had got a couple of scores, we had left a couple of scores out there as well, and we were the architects around the infall then because we considered two handy scores then, so we would be disappointed with that there, but we have a lot of confidence these boys, they know what they're about and they're buying into the team ethos of everything as well, so we had preached that it was going to go right to the end no matter what happened, fair play on the dugout. 9-6, 9-7 it was, you know, home team had possession for quite a bit, he's got the freeze, he's kept hanging in there, but the grip on that performance has to be something that pleases you, I'm sure. I will look at the big thing that we're preaching and training is about the team, and it's always about playing for the team in every situation and making the right decisions for the team, and you know to be fair today, I thought they did that with Spades, they showed real courage towards the end as well to just, you know, with a bit of reckless abandonment, go after it, and they did, you know, and I'm very proud of them, very, very proud of the efforts, because you know a lot of people would say it comes to a game and you want to lose, and particularly even Terry, like you know, the people are saying we won today and Terry lost, like the work that these young fellas are putting on the way from the pitch and the gym and the time commitment that they're giving on every side is astronomical, I don't think people understand it, you know, so for that there I'm delighted for the players as well. So obviously there's a discussion about the academy situation, I'm not going to go into that here, but I think this is the first group that came through, when it started I don't believe we're close to it, so the work has been done. Yeah these boys have done a bit of work as well, and there's a couple under 16s as well there, 17s and look, they're just a nice group of players, well nice mix from last year, you know, they're bought into the whole ethos of developing as well, but I think every player has to do that now, and every team has to do that, and look I'm just delighted for them as well, and these boys are the first ones through, so I'm delighted for them as well, and look, difficult times turning off football, so hopefully now this can be a rebus for the teams around us as well, and hopefully all teams can have a good run of the championship, and it's a big thing moving things forward. And finally just on the championship, the minor championships tends to change, format different times, you have something completely different now? Yeah, look at us. Similar to League? Aye, it is, it is, and I don't know how we feel about that yet, like we have three games in ten days, you know, and that's a real tough ass to play, you know, you're playing Wednesday night, you're going to New York on the Sunday, and then you're going the following week, you're playing then, you're playing, you're playing for Derrick then, so like that's going to be a really tough test, you know, but, and then you get into the knockout stage, I think, so like our first and foremost, our objective is to get into the knockout stages, and then we're going to deal with it from there, you know, but each game on its merit, and you know, we'll be preparing for Fernan, and they'll come on to that. Yeah, good man, well done, Luke Bard, and are under 17s? Yeah, yeah, well done, Luke Bard, and are under 17s, made his stuff from them indeed, and now where I say we're going to look across the action from the weekend, and a man that we've been, well, B&Hem has been known as the dream team, maybe I think we've been giving ourselves that name, it is Jair Tracy. Jair, how are you? Come on, Brandon, yeah, that makes me smile, that's common. Rolling back the years, we had a good rattle at times in the old commentary there, Jair, of course, people have even played the commentary, the famous Kevin Cassidy, shot against Kildare that day in Crow Park, I mean, you were shouting and roaring. It's the only time, Jair, in all the time of doing commentaries that the studio come in and goes like, what are the time, please? My apologies. That was a memorable day, but I have to say, one of the many that we had together in various commentary booths over the years, but I have to say that even in Crow Park was extra special, what a game, what a story and what a point to win us. What a point, it lives long in the memories to say, I've met Donegal people randomly, they've had it on their phone, they've played back in that club, I mean, it's brilliant stuff. Jair, tell me this, this season, I mean, we started the season for Manning Donegal, we're a long way off in terms of looking at league standings, but next season we're clashing heads again, yourselves and Kevin going up, of course, at the weekend, joining ourselves in Armagh and down, it's going to be a serious division two next year, Ulster battles everywhere, same as division one, I mean, really down and lucky not to go up themselves, should they go up next year and everybody stays, you know, you'll have seven of the nine counties in one and two. Yeah, I mean, who would have ever imagined, but, well, Donegal and Armagh will be in division two and they'll be joined by Fomana, I suppose a lot of people had Fomana down as one of the teams that maybe might be looking over their shoulder in terms of relegation to division four, but, I mean, it's been a terrific year for Fomana and achieving their promotion, however, I suppose last Saturday evening was disappointing, the performance was disappointing, so that sort of takes the shine of the loss of the way, but I suppose the main aim was to get promoted and that was achieved and it was hard, probably branding for the lads to, after investing so much time, effort and commitment to get over West Mead and Calvin in the two previous weekends to turn around again a third week in a row and perform at the level that would have been needed to beat what was a very good Calvin side, so overall a good season, but I have to say I was, I was taken aback by the fall of Donegal and Armagh, I didn't expect either of them two teams to end up in division two, but here, they say the league doesn't lie and that's, that all adds to what should be an intriguing division two next year. Certainly, it was a serious season in terms of comebacks and one-point victories and it was an amazing run by Fomana, you really got the sense from the management down to players and it's something I suppose some Donegal people have talked about here in terms of not having Donegal influence maybe on the team, there seemed to be real Fomana bond pulled again around the side, you know, it seemed to be real identity with them again, you know really a spirited team. Yeah, that's probably a fair comment, I mean Kieran Dongley has come in there and look, Kieran's just a novice football man, loads of experience with colleges and almost CBS and so on and so forth and then on the club scene with the likes of Calvin Gales, Eric and Kieran, Scottsdine and has been successful with all of those and look, he came in there and picked up from from from Rysie and first year, found, signed the state and reasonable enough here, achieved of the old division three status fairly comfortably and then the championship was likely disappointing, one good win over Longfoot in the Targon Cup, but then knocked out again by our nemesis, Calvin, you know, so but I suppose the fact then that he was able to call on players like Shea and Lee Cullen, the twins that are back, that was hugely important, Alton Callum was available this year, Shea McGullion who's probably gone under the radar, was missing for two years with injuries, he was back and Kay Mcmallons was back and maybe the key thing then added to that is that them lads that won the Hogan Cup in 2019 with Michael's, there's six of them in the panel and there are six of the five of them started on Saturday even 30 year young or year older I should say and a year more experienced, so when you when you pull all that into the mix and then you take the unity and the passion and the commitments that Kieran has brought to the table and to the team, I think it's been a good mix and a good blend and he brought in Roland O'Neill this year to do some work with the forwards and Roland, I'm sure you know him well, he's a very likable, very infectious lad, he's had a great impact so far on the team, so all of that has added up into a nice cocktail that has got us to where we are at this juncture. Yeah, indeed and just from an applause, we're having an influence everywhere, obviously Derry are on the march steadily there and before we get to the game which is quite a strange game, you know Roy's comments about the under 20s again, we're both involved in this because there's five Derry lads named under 20s in the squad and of course Derry are playing yourselves in the championship four days later, they're playing their under 20s in that game, there was a request to bring that forward here, we're surprised that wasn't agreed to because it seems a wee bit crazy, you know if a player is going to play another 20 championship match and then three days later play an Ulster championship game. Yeah, I think it's a very strange run because I mean of a ruse but then I think it should apply across both you know the league and the championship, but this rule is only affecting the championship only is my understanding because if it did affect the league well then Ronan McAfrey who played for our under 20s and Tenon O'Brien, they wouldn't have been allowed to play in that game there at the weekend so it only it only is applicable to from what I can see is a championship football and I think it's going to sound fair and the players that you know are good enough to play further at senior level and evidently are under 20 are now being penalized and there's a decision to be made now between whether they're playing that under 20 game against Donnie Gull or Rory Paulson that keeps them for the senior game I don't think for young at that age that they should be in the mix with enough on their plates you know between the work or maybe their college and whatever's gone on in their lives without having that brought into the equation as well so I think it's something that I would agree with Rory that it's something that needs to be looked at and addressed and I suppose maybe it is strange that Donnie Gull maybe were happy to bring the game forward I don't know whether they were aware or not that that request was was turned down yeah and I think just over the over the weekend you know different teams will look at it because the championships coming down the track so quick these games were all we're all a small bit of shadow boxing and I know this derrile took great heart particularly in the first half when the when the Dublin just couldn't break through that line and we said that that couldn't work at Crow Park but then again this isn't a Dublin team of before and this derrile team has as well drilled the sides I've ever seen so you know they really had the number but then the goals killed them second half but I mean to see a four six scoreline in modern football is a strange thing you know I mean ultimately easily won the game for them but it's something that you're going to throw back to some game from from another era yeah it was strange I was happy game and I thought to myself at half time derrile won control of the game they should have been should have been further in front but I suppose the second half took on a different dimension all together I think the loss of Conor Glass had a really significant impact on the game derrile looked lost in the middle of the field once Glass went off and I mean Dublin got their kickouts away very very easily and they had the bulk of the possession and I suppose they made the maximum of the advantage with that possession the scored four goals and two points in the second half somebody told me Aurora got her side would concede that in 35 minutes of football I wouldn't believe it but they did and I suppose it really shows up that if you take the likes of Conor Glass, Chrissy McKig and young Owen McAvoy out of that derri came by three really really important players but I expect that they'll be back for the championship against against ourselves so I wouldn't be reading too much into what happened yesterday to be honest I think it would maybe give Derri the shake up that they maybe needed at this juncture yeah and Gerr tell me you're obviously proud for man a man you're always promoting and helping the county and I know you're a G a man at his heart but you're such a driving force behind for mana user on the verge of a of a big promotion push there to bring in funds yeah I suppose I had to go on the role of chairman of club Ernie back in 2014 Brandon and over over the last whatever it is nine years or whatever we have brought in consistently brought in in the region is maybe 200,000 pound per per annum which is absolutely crucial funding to sustain the G a and in some other and I suppose I'm working closely with with people that are unified and have a vision and unity of purpose I would say has been a pleasure you know working with the county board and I suppose when you when you think of me saying that and then you maybe hear what's going on in your own county you know it's it's brilliant that that there is such a unified approach and unity of purpose so I suppose there's big plans Brandon to develop the center at lesson like I've been down at convoy a few times and I see what you guys have done there with your four pitches or five pitches now or whatever it is on the end plus your your pavilion or whatever and your gym upstairs and your reek in the meeting room or whatever top class for the holiday look it up at lesson lesson has been very good lesson though the terminology a training center is just located outside in a skill and as you head out for temple it's it's a fine it's a fine center but look if there's only two training pitches there there's a relatively small dressing room complex a mobile eating room a meeting room as such and a very very small gym so it's for us to go forward and develop our footballers and our hurlers and our ladies ladies teams we need more pitches and we need a fit for purpose sports pavilion so long story short Brandon the development committee and in comana have now a project in place to develop a new training center with the two pitches on the new balloon whatever that's going to cost 4.5 million and I've been working closely with the chairman of that committee and uh I suppose we agreed that if we're ever going to go and look for funding whether you're going to your council your local council or you're going to crow park or you're going to the ulster uh council you're going to have to have some money in your own back pocket so we decided that we would try and raise a million pounds through uh win a house in formata competition and that started last september and it will culminate this day week seven days time somebody that has purchased a ticket will win a brand new three four bedroom house worth 300,000 pounds in the heart of inner skillum that's an absolutely fantastic price a fantastic house in a great location in a lovely time so that's the price and that's what's going to happen next next uh monday night in the west of the hotel magic stuff chair magic stuff listen to you send me on uh we linked it there again i think i did give you a blast already but i'll fire it up on on twitter want to wish you all the best with the draw and thanks so much for giving us a wee bit info uh this evening there uh chair always great to talk i know but i'm not going to have anybody can help us out just go on to www.winahouseinformata.com and i suppose i'll remind all dunnig all people that when they had their win a house in doubling competition like some like mcgran and michael all over mcmahan uh came up to formata and sold loads and loads of tickets so it's our turn now brandon it's your turn now uh the dunnig all people help us out we will indeed and then we'll move to in a skill and live in that house we'll invade chair this is no problem at all i hope a dunnig all person wants it that'll that'll be like you you could trust we bought a few tickets that's a good one i hope to buy by platby at back seven days because this is the week somebody wants it's only a hundred pound of tickets sound job good man chair take your handy kid take your handy i fair play fair play chair chisley well done there uh after these after this advertisement break we have the great didine dory i'm i'm really looking forward to this talk she's coming up after this break the deal debate with sister sarah's letter canny serving food you'll love till nine p.m. daily in sarah's kitchen and there's free admission entertainment every weekend at tk max our buyers go to the moon and back to bring you ridiculous deals on big brands like totally out of this world scented candles and big name beauty that doesn't cost so no need to compromise on quality to feel oh and wow for less popped your nearest tk max for fresh 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this is highland radio yes we're getting nadine daugherty on there nadine can you hear me oh great nadine i'm just putting up your mic here getting you on hearing us loud and clear good on you all all the way from dublin where you're residing now nadine we won't be from hearthstone heights first never mind dublin uh nadine i'm just looking through your career first of all welcome to live stories on the deal debate um fantastic to have you on lovely lovely to be on now looking forward to it oh listen fair play nadine i was i was looking back i just taken her back by this you know i obviously got a decent education that night we had a talk in the donald park when the union's ladies got the giller of course to reminisce about that fantastic team yous had and i was blown away by some of that but then when they looked at your personal stuff of me nadine jumping on just straight under this you know you started playing first in union's ladies when you're 12 years of age i mean it doesn't seem possible you first played for donny gall with your 15 uh i'm sitting going check on my head going how is this possible but at the start of your playing obviously you were mad keen on the all sports but that that started the ladies football it was uh it was a real um early baptism into the senior game the ladies game yeah i suppose it was very different back then brandon you know um like i was trying to think i think it was about 10 when a few of us from school wandered down to union's and i suppose that was around 92 and dunny gall the man had won the all ireland so i suppose that was a bit of a springboard for the county in a sense and just even my own environment growing up like hawthorne heights it was in the middle of the town but you should know we were blessed with green areas and i think that's that's a huge thing that's missing now for kids like you had your choice of going down to the weather pitch or going up harry gall of her fields or going down to singinans to the grass pitch or even up to the square on the street like we would just play football anywhere so yeah it's about 10 wandered down to union's and then she was straight in i think there was an under 14 team and then like i was 12 playing senior but i mean debbie lee fox was probably 14 15 like and already was i'd say an was about 12 as well so it was just the dumb thing but it is mad like now whatever 30 years later it's it's kind of crazy that that happened even from a child protection point of view but uh yeah we were just we were just mad to play football and kevin barron the manager at the time i think his motto was always you know if you were good enough you're old enough and he obviously thought we were good enough and we listen we came into a union's team that you know ladies football was just starting but unions had they'd won everything i think they'd won two or three at that stage and uh now we commend my first game actually when i was 12 and 95 was against a rua as you would have found out that night like we were big big rivals and a real beat us in that game it was the semi final the county semi final so sure the 12 year old the devastation should the tears and everything i'd say mommy had to console me for about a week but uh then after that yeah we just went on a roll brandon for years and years and i was just so privileged to have been part of that team because geez they're just unbelievable footballers and and just unbelievable organization so long ago you know like as i said kevin barron was way way ahead of his time in terms of coaching and even the players we had were way ahead of their time in terms of their thinking you know on the ball so yeah it's just a privilege brand that really was was unbelievable that's interesting because that's the very thing that a lot of people have said about you in terms of being ahead of your time and and how your approach to the game was was an entertainment even maxi kern talked about that and it's interesting that was your first year in it because your time and after that was impeccable in terms of one in championships and being in the right place at the right time throughout the rest of your career but that that unit's team then that was the only blip out of 14 was it in championships yeah i think so yeah it's unbelievable um you you of course yeah it was just you went on the one like seven championships three allsters of course played in all that and finalists just said units there's a lot there's a lot more to come and around that but that's just taken it from a unit's perspective today so in many ways and we finished up early and the travel and all that had a lot to do with that but you did started pretty early so it still was it was such a massive time frame you had so many teams you played for it was massive and like i look back even with school you know like we had brilliant teams in school because you would have had like permanent girls at michael's you know you would have had so many other players from around the county so i just remember back to those years from say like 95 until i so they didn't believe and then i think was 99 you would have been training at lunchtime would say basketball or soccer you would have had training after school with basketball soccer gaelic with the school team then you would have gone on and you probably had underage training say at six o'clock and then you stay on for senior training after that so like five days a week you probably had four training sessions but we loved it brandon like you know and even listen to you chatting like during the week you're the same you played you just played everything like that was the way it was and i just think that that improved everybody's skill set uh again it's in burnout and child protection that they don't do it now but you know i think everybody in that team appreciated what the others are doing in terms of other sports in terms of their training and this and that team itself you know the the six seven years in after that it just worked and it just clicked and there was huge strength and depth as well brandon like kevin and huma claffrey and kormick mccormick all the managers at the time they really trusted us you know and like i have like the memory would be a bit sketchy now at this stage you know i just remember say like brona galleran goals there was huge trust like you always know brona you knew you knew she'd nailed the kick out and then i just always remember looking back at our defenders because like i was this little skinny thing up front and pulled forward and i feel like everybody would just get the ball up to you but i just remember looking at our defenders and you just knew you just knew anytime that that ball crossed the halfway line that they sorted out as your maria used to say but yeah listen you could go on for hours but it was genuinely just such a privilege to have played with with all of those players and yes well then when i was it was i think 2000 then i headed off to america for a couple years and and that was very different of course happened to one a championship out there i'm not surprised everywhere you went something happened to do and then just before we could get off the unions once i have to say obviously your mom and your aunt and all them huge supporters and harry blake god rest them and the stories and there's one small story i love these ones alma cavern was talking with you on the flight and your excitement just been on the flight heading over because you were so young and they were saying you know you're only for the wonders were so small you would have hopped out them and it landed this kind of thing you know and i just they she was saying of the the balls that you just brought there and the energy you know it was such amazing times heading to london to play like an all-erland semi-final and club you know it was such a massive time and the response from the town when you come back and of course the story is a black spar and and charlie doing the commentary and and and the whole balls around that you really captured something very special that time it was unbelievable and listen charlie harvey harry blake paddy gallagher and family members they were our like you know our supporters who never missed a game but i remember going over to the the game in london as you said brandyck you're 15 going over to london to play in another island from final it was only you know as an adult then you look back and you think to stuff was just it was unheard of but i remember my my real memory from that trip was uh after we won the match obviously in the celebrations and the whole act and obviously we all went better but earlier than the rest but uh we all went shopping in london the next day at every single one of us came back with the three stripe adidas tracks so go around the convent you had every color of the three stripe stripe tracks it i think i got a a green and a green in the everyone so we thought we were absolutely unbelievable between getting to know that i'm fine and having that adidas we thought we were brilliant but uh yeah listen just amazing amazing time for those beautiful memories from that that weekend you know um and we all recounted them at the night that they do i'm saved a few weeks ago but uh and that was the thing too brand the crack like you know you can talk about the football all day and it was amazing but i think that team stayed together for so long because of the friendships that were formed and because of the crack off and on the pitch and and blakes and even a train and you know just the crack in the slag and and well we didn't take ourselves too seriously we all we did take the football seriously as well but you know i i just think maybe nowadays and we'll probably get on to that later that that the crack has just kind of been squeezed out of it even a club level you know it's it's slowly been squeezed out so so we had it all see that night it even we're under 20 or under 21s units had won the championship and i was looking at the huge group of amazing women and but at the crack the characters you are individually and then as as a group and i was looking at them thinking i just can't see any way that you're going to have as much crack as that there's not against them it's just the way things is is set up but the thing you we just mentioned new york there of course you land back with impeccable timing as i was saying because don't have all lost it and all out in final they were going for a second one they needed a wee bit extra quality and you certainly provided that i'm going to take you up in that just after this break right the dl debate with sister sarah's ladder kenny serving food you'll love till 9 p.m. daily in sarah's kitchen and there's free admission entertainment every weekend quality assured irish meat choose centre cut irish ham a rack of irish lamb with all the trimmings or a tender cut of beef like our sirloin roast 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everything in sight she's also won a championship of cavernite in new york had a spell there which is great for anybody live abroad for a few years but but come back and dunygol been beaten the year before in the island junior final and nadine landed back and the maxi maxi maxi squad maxi current squad and dunygol went all the way and nadine what's your memories of that and and was there was there any notice that you noticed you might stay another year in new york why did you decide to come home exactly yeah so 2002 she said the girls got to the final and i'd always been in touch with moe you know and and doc and a few of them and when they lost that final you know yourself permo isn't great now with the i'll celebrate and are getting over things when it lasts more than two days so she rang me um or i rang her when we were in touch and she said i'll come home you know we're really close would you consider coming home so i was considering staying on brendan to be honest i was kind of in between and i was looking at college as well and going back to college so look i made the decision to do teaching because it kind of was the best job to be able to play football nearly as professional as you could so i applied got teaching on pats and then came back in 03 and now initially oh geez i was in bad shape as you can imagine after three years in new york so i had a few new york pounds to shift and a lot of fitness to catch up on like because those girls were coming off the back of an all-arland run and you know a good league campaign so uh maxi made me wait it out now i didn't start the first round of the championship with me and moe we're sitting on the bench i don't know why she had a few pounds to lose maybe or something but uh listen it ended up just that team was a very special team as well brendan but um it just ended up clicking that year like we had a tough first round against our math i think we only beat them by goal in the end up and then we performed really well in the rest of bolster and we beat cavin well in the austere final we had a nice quarter final draw against slago at home the quarter final assembly final and then like caldera had been really really good i mean donnie gall had got it tied against caldera for a few years before that but we just got into that final should brendan you would have been at it and like the game was over by halftime it just clicked i remember kelly lacy vomick monagill most got like most scored nine points i think she scored four for left and five of her right and you know your maria came on at halftime there's so many to mention but uh it just it it really clicked um and that year very very special you move would it click together then you yeah you know me and moe just had a because we played soccer together for so long and like i was i suppose with donnie gall then i'd moved out to center forward and moe was inside and you know you just get somebody brend that you can bounce off and i knew where she'd be and she has always said to me before a match and i don't want to do too much running here so just make sure you drop it into the right place so i always had her legs and minds but yeah we just we were always able to find each other and your lesson mode there's no better finisher and donnie gall at that stage than moe so yeah it just it just clicked outside of the uh the brilliance of that victory and everything had gone before it's something that uh has been said many times again was that my god she enjoyed her life that she played hard she partied hard is there is that it's coming up too often and it ain't for not to be uh a truth uh death ah brend listen i'd never deny that that's what it was all about like like i'd trade as hard as anybody in that pitch and you'd behave yourself for a couple of months but there's no better crack on a night out than with the football guards and there's no better night out than if you've won a big game be it a county final be it an holster final a listen be it if you have a couple of weeks off training and you'll meet up and go out but uh oh definitely i'll never deny that one and that's definitely my thoughts it doesn't really go down too well nowadays you know with all these these professional setups but uh we had a good time we had a very good time and you know no more than yourselves there weren't very many people on that team who said come on there's i think it's time to call the night we should we should leave it now there were some bunch um maybe just 2004 i suppose that quarter final we were doubling you know to the team was on a was on a great trajectory at that time did you think that was only years where maybe yeah i know there's been i mean there's been quite a few around that time and sense but but that year for you was was one of the ones that uh you felt you could have went all the way and the senior yeah it was just pivotal because as you said we were on the crest of a wave and i remember you know for we lost the ulster final that year uh very narrowly to monahan and we'd had a couple of injuries and i'll never forget the draw was made that during our match so when we came off we knew that we got doubling that quarter final and i remember maxi being absolutely delighted and like that was one thing about maxi he's still huge confidence in you no matter who you're playing you know he would have you you know and and rightly so you know he had us thinking yeah we'll beat doubling and we've been down to langford and less than it was a wild game i think there were about seven summons between both teams and it was swinging over and back and it was level after full time went to extra time and i think there were about 30 or 40 seconds left on the countdown clock i think it was just brought in that year and we were up by two points and angie mcnally scored an absolute screamer of a goal there there was nothing anybody could do just go to screamer of a goal and they won by a point and they went on to the final they didn't win it but we always felt that we would have taken that goal we team who won it that year and uh i just think with that team you know that team kind of started to wind down then and oh seven and oh six even oh seven and i felt had we had we got over that doubling game you just you never know you know you never know that's and i don't even have a regret about it because i honestly don't think anybody on that day could have done anything more like i think we see the campbell got a helicopter about a letter was their sister's wedding like so you know everybody did did everything possible but listen you know yourself some days these days just don't go your way but it was one of the you know you identify one of those games where if things had been different who knows what the future would have held for that team yeah yeah indeed and they didn't just look you captain loads of teams have been earlier on that's impatched from column you're doing your teacher training you know you captain dunny gall as well uh you went up and down the road obviously then and he decided to transfer uh tuna fina uh you captain them of course they won their first championship as well and and what was that like they didn't go down there like i suppose a new team and you said the people again were they as crazy as the dunny gall crew i can't i can't imagine they were uh well they were you know what i was friend with with that it was a hard enough decision but i was 27 at the time and and units had gone through i suppose or were going through a transition and i grew up playing with the the donna cavernas the leela mccoskers the liz gordon's you know debilate moved on your maria got married and things were kind of breaking up and it was a it was a selfish enough decision brennan to be honest because like i knew in my heart i don't know they're five or six years of of a really good football left in me and i just i didn't have the i didn't have the leadership in me to to go through a transition period with you and so i moved on to the fina and like when i joined the fina they um i i think kind of i trained with them a few times and you wanted to then i'd been on the all-star trip the year before and bernie finley um he would have played with dublin just got chatting to bernie and i ended up going to the fina and we had really good times you know we we ended up bren we were players all of kind of the same era we were kind of all the same age very very driven you know everybody was really driven like i remember denise cassidy she she'd be from uh over st noel's denise would have joined a year or two later like i'm really sure she came to training one night with like a blow dry and a full face of makeup because and then went out after to like some work presentation because she didn't want to miss training but there was a huge huge drive there and yeah we won we won four dublin championships and and a lamster and again lost in all our club final but um you know while it would have been lovely to have stayed on mix and tune into my whole career i i think from a i suppose a football and then just a selfish point of view i am glad that i i made the move um because i was able to play that's a way to squad like it was like an intercounty team really so i still played that really really high standard of football and it was a serious standard of training and until i um i the legs gave in i think it was 2014 when i when i finished up on the fina yes and then listen you obviously you've you've coached and been the selectors with with westmeath and mannese nafina you know your deputy principal dublin's your your home there now you're obviously doing stuff with giamon writing an article is sunday independent you're still uh knee deep in the g a no matter what way it turns you're there is that it's just something that's part of your life and you love that side of things yeah absolutely brand i suppose with the coaching the last year i played with nafina uh there was a fella from westmeath nile williams he was our our coach and he he was just you know you come across these few coaches in your life and they have a huge impact on you and nile got offered the westmeath job the following year and he knew i was finishing up at nafina so he asked me to go in with him and i did it for two years and it was a huge learning curve that i i've kind of taken even into my my own professional life you know being deputy principal in the school and i just think sport has has such an important influence on your life off the pitch as well you know what it gets you places it takes you places and it keeps you going but yeah so then with the the media stuff i suppose kind of you know like yourself never really planned on getting into it at all it just kind of fell into it it was getting over a few drinks in crow park in the crow park hotel and just got chatting to this guy who had a small podcast going at the time and i did that with him it was called sports girls and i did that with him for a year and then marie crow who hosts game on marie rang me to see if i'd come on to get him on one evening and because she said that she she used to prep for game on by listening to me in the podcast so she thought sure i'll just get her in to do it with us so yeah i've been with game on now for three years and then the sunday independent um again a kind of chance um a chance thing came up that the editor asked marie of game on did you know any do she know anybody who'd be able to write an article like the next day um it was during cove but i think that the manna and underage under 16s had they won allster but then the ladies gaylic association weren't playing and all our own championships so anyway wrote a piece on that and yeah it just forged a good relationship with john green the editor and um we work together now pretty much weekly so it's really enjoyable and as you said it's just a great way to stay just stay involved in the game and and because the way football is going now the videos you wouldn't i wouldn't really switch on the telly unless i had to for media stuff so it's it's good in that sense to stay in touch and it's just a nice distraction from the the grind of teaching you know i'm in that 17 years now and you know you can you can kind of just get into a i suppose just a habit of of teaching and home and doing nothing so the media stuff is brilliant very busy though very busy yeah listen nadeen yeah i think you're brilliant at it it's comes naturally which i think is the being thing in that and of course being a player that you are that's already backed up um it's interesting actually i just gave maxi of course is in a beat somewhere in greece i think he's he's somewhere somewhere for the holidays this boy i mean it's not bad enough that he is downings anyway it is his feet he has to head off so some other beats but um he was saying that you know obviously have to talk about the legal and be critical about the legal but he says that he doesn't mind that because he respects you so much and i thought that was a brilliant comment from him um because sometimes you'd be hard here and it'd be hard for you to write it but you know you're honest and i think that's probably one of the reasons you're a captain as well nadeen you know even though you have to call it sometimes it is from a respectful manner and you still have to call it as you see it otherwise you're no point in in talking to 100 percent um brandon and you know thankfully with with the girls there for a number of years you didn't have to be overly critical too often but i think women's sport has moved on in a sense you know when we were playing brandon the match report was lovely and nobody ever played bad and everybody was great and why we got brilliant coverage you know it was it was a wee bit i wouldn't say vanilla but you know it was very very positive and i think now that the modern female player i think they respect um journalists and critics when you know as as matty would say you call it as it is and because you want to respect them in that sense it's not it's not calling people out but it's just commenting on the game the the way you see it but um yeah they they get they always give me a bit of slagging game on i might only go all because i i really i've i've been i've been tipping them for success for the last few years and uh in orgy they're they're always slagging me but um but yeah no more than yourself friend you know like haven't played for dunny god yourself but it is hard and so with with the girls there there aren't many too there aren't too many girls left who i would have played with um in that sense and i wouldn't know too many of them but you don't like being critical but as as you said you have to give an honest opinion and an honest feeling because it's it's to respect the girls more so than anything you know yeah and i suppose there's one then ones where you can't open it up by saying of of a player if that's quality you know you've drop standards you can't open it up in terms of saying right from from compared to where that player is at this this isn't this isn't their form or there's ways of dressing it up without being like completely cold on it you know quite often there if you have a top player you just have to you just have to call it in the game but listen life's good up there and and doubling at the minute uh you're just you're just flat out at everything i know you're in constant contact with the girls and you had a few influences um even my sister i mean i can't imagine the two views even the two using the night out never mind everybody else throwing the cabinets and and all the crazies with that but uh you still stay in touch with everybody and still like would be swapping messages and and keeping in contact uh yeah yeah absolutely we have a unit what's up right there that it gets lit every so often and obviously you're Maria you know it'll be one of my closest friends still and moe and um we're we're heading off and and i'll catch up nine a few weeks the three of us and uh yeah just you know as i said that unit's reunion was lovely too brandon and we're hoping to do a dunny goll reunion very very soon i was chatting to francis king there last week frank would have played full forward for us um and not a three team um she had a big birthday there and i during the week i won't say what age but uh we're saying we have to get the it's 20 years like since we won that junior all-arland so hopefully that will be the next the next catch up for all that guy i am 20 when somebody says 20 years i don't know the second what what what i know i know brandon it goes like whatever championship is coming up there you know your your your 25 year things and that when i used to see them when i was playing and you know the team had come out and they all looked like old men no happily felt like they oh man now i'm thinking is that me they look like an old geezer now i come out waving to the crowd and how did this happen so quick you know oh no i think we have a few years left before we left that old now i think we're safe enough thank you i started when i was 12 the dean absolutely fantastic listening the money of course we have to give a mention to shavon you know you're a lovely couple you were so good to my family there when uh dad was going through treatment and as well so fair play the two years there um listen was great to meet you and um listen as ever uh the dean what a way to start off uh the show in terms of looking at life stories i mean you're one is amazing i think it needs to be encapsulated some way that people can read what you've done the dean because i was just blown away with what what a brilliant first grace what a great woman you are i really want to thank you for taking the time to talk to us this evening lovely bread and i think my mother has it all in scrapbooks at home in letter county so it'll never uh you'll never be gone and uh we listen we love to having you and all the family up here in Dublin and we'll get you back up again for sure thanks a million much appreciate the dean take care i catch up you soon lovely friend bye bye yeah brilliant yeah the dean already there fantastic stuff i want to thank her so much that was brilliant time i want to thank jerry tracy earlier for his input to the show of course the brilliant joe dex here for keeping me right and uh the monday night session guys they're waving up me they're ready to get the place rock and hay lads take it away i will speak to you actually not next week the week after it's a bank holiday we'll be back in call McFaddle and we join us for life stories i'll speak to you all then