 Next question is from the real ration is Occlusion training a waste of time or does it have a place in a routine to insert? Intermittently, you'll know it's not a waste of time man This is one of those weird like this is the last time that I can remember where I heard something in fitness That was super weird, and I was really skeptical and then it turned out to be true It has a lot of value You know it was a weird It was the very first mind pump tip that I ever gave on episode one. Oh was it? Yeah, I recently watched that as this one never aired, right? This was the one that we did with Craig Capurso years of years ago before my pump started I was the one at the house, right? Yeah, yeah We're at the house and you sal talked about the decline of testosterone and young men and then I brought Occlusion training and at that time it was so new and we were all kind of questioning it and talking about the science to Support it and then kind of applying it ourselves, but I found tremendous value in it The the only thing that I would caution people of is that it's there's so much value in it that you can start to neglect Traditional strength training which I don't think that it trumps traditional strength training I think it's a nice excuse me. It's a nice supplement to it But if you start to Replace your traditional strength training and you start doing mostly occlusion training I think you'll you'll lose some of the benefits that you would get from it Yeah, so essentially how it works is you you tie off a limb and you you tie off enough not so much that you lose feeling but You tie off enough so that you occlude Blood outflow right so I if I do it to my arm, right? I'd go in my upper arm and knee wraps are usually what you would use and you do some curls and Blood gets into the muscle Less blood comes out of the muscle because it's occluded and so you start to get this really deep intense burn Extreme and this extreme pump like it's an extreme pump like you've never experienced before but it's also very painful And what happens is it simulates? Heavy training to the body so even though you're using and you can't use heavy weight with this because when the burn kicks in You lose function. You're just all of a sudden like oh my god. I can't do another rep But what it does is it actually stimulates the fast twitch muscle fibers in a similar way to heavy weight So what are the bed and also the extreme pump itself probably induces some some muscle growth So what are the benefits of this? Well the benefits are I? Contrain with really light weight and and actually get a decent muscle building signal man Talk about the value for someone that's injured right? That's where this this originally came from Yes was with athletes and I want to say it was hockey was what they they first started doing this research around hockey players With like knee injuries, so I mean I didn't I didn't know about Occlusion training as a train it isn't until mind pump it started did I get introduced to this? But boy, I would have used the shit out of it as a trainer because many times I had clients Fresh off of going through physical therapy and I had to do really really lightweight and slow and controlled type of stuff with Them and had I understood or knew about occlusion training back then I would have found it as an incredible Tool as a trainer and coach for rehabbing a client. So yeah, you want to minimize impact on the joints great Like it's a great rehab tool To be able to still address, you know muscle hypertrophy And also I look at it too. There's it's interesting because you said like exercise. It's sort of mimics, you know some exercise so I'm thinking too of Like a sauna same thing like they you know how how your body heats up and then you know, you get all the benefits of that it simulates Basically some of the benefits you get from exercise in your body naturally heating up and producing You know these benefits. Yeah now self experimentation because when we first started the show and when you talked about this Adam You and I went through this period where we were just messing with it Just to see what it would do and the body part that I was most consistent using it on was my calves because Historically my calves have been very stubborn They just you know, don't respond like the rest of my body. I know Adam, you know same thing and Here's what I noticed from it like my calves, which Basically, we're not gonna grow. I mean, I know I trained them and they was it they were stuck I added almost a quarter of an inch to them by adding occlusion That's where I saw the same benefit, which is amazing. I'll send Andrew. I actually have a picture of you and I Doing a calf flex off. Oh my god in the original studio when we were actually doing this. So That's I've used it mostly. I've used it for my arms, too But I saw the most value with my calves at being able to add volume without doing as much damage to the to the You guys gained a few more veins Now here's a deal I I experimented with it a lot I even had some clients do it you can overdo it. You could definitely overdo it and over train It should not replace your traditional training I don't think you should use it until you've built up a good amount of volume and frequency in normal training Doesn't make any sense because it's still not as effective as traditional training But let's say you've reached a particular point. You're hitting your your sweet spot You've been working out consistently for a while You've got good volume Good frequency and you want to add one more little trick just kind of squeeze out a little bit more muscle growth or shape In my experience throwing it in once a week was plenty once or twice a week and I would literally do Three sets that's it any more than that I noticed then then it would start to take away and I'd have to like replace Traditional exercises in which case it didn't make any sense I did it for I experimented for quads hamstrings calves and arms the downside is You can't include really the torso, so I can't do it for chest or back or you know You could it wouldn't go over to I don't know how Tie off your neck, you know But it's very very painful you have never felt a burn. I mean it is literally unbearable I when I'm done with the set I rip the things off and yeah, I mean, it's another great tool Right kind of like similar to the question about the elevated Hills thing. I shouldn't replace traditional strength training but I found tremendous value in complimenting my traditional routine and then had I known about it as a trainer and coach back when I was training clients for sure I would have used this a lot because I tried a lot. I mean that a lot of your clients dealt with pain and surgery I think that was a Very very common as a trainer to get clients like that And so had I known about occlusion training back then it would probably have been something I used on a fairly regular basis with clients Oh, yeah, think about it like, you know, you know, I when I work out. Let's say if I squat It's probably with 300 pounds, right, but let's say I have knee injury. I You know getting a workout with body weight now for me would be very difficult to light But if I occlude myself, I bet body weight I could I could you know send a little bit of a muscle building signal because even with body weight the burn and everything would be Insane and my muscles would eventually fatigue and fail very quickly So it's a valuable tool. I would say use it once a week Maybe twice a week only after we wrote a guide for this. We do we have a guide that explains it I think we did a YouTube video didn't we do a YouTube video? Yeah, we've done a couple YouTube videos and then we have a full guide on how to the sets and reps and how we would actually implement it exactly