 So you're here with the line rock batteries and hi, so who are you? Hi, I'm David Yeung. I'm the founder of Line Rock Batteries. Hello, I'm Eric Lee. I'm the vice president for sales and marketing at Line Rock Batteries. So what are you showing here? We are making a flexible battery. So on my hand you can see a flexible battery inside a watch strap. It is showing the bending curvature of the battery in the watch strap. You can put it in a strap. You can comfortably put it around your wrist. It's safe. It's safe. Yes, you can see the view. That's the unique selling point. You can actually punch a hole into the battery. Nothing comes out. There's no leakage and there's no fire. So it's an extremely safe battery. Extremely safe. No fire. No leakage. Yes. No toxic materials. No gas. Nothing. That comes out. Yeah, so and then flexible. What's the capacity on this? And this one is a small one. So the capacity is a ratio of the size. This is a small one. It has a roughly 80 milliamp hour inside. You need two for a watch? Yeah, for a watch you can put it around. So it's 80 for the whole watch? Or is it 160? So on both you could have close to 200 which is about 80% of the typical watch capacity. So with my smartwatch which is with memory LTE? Exactly. It's a low-power smartwatch. Maybe you could power it. Yes, exactly. And we can actually customize into different form factors. For example something like this at a thickness of about 1.3 millimeters. Perfectly bendable. And this unit itself it's about 200 mAh. Nice. And we also have something that is bigger. So we can put it into like a luggage tag and we pull it out. And so that's the bigger unit or with a higher mAh. How big? I think this is like 270 mAh. So now you have an example of the smartwatch? Yes. I'm not sure whether it works right away. It may have a sort of battery at this moment. It's got a pebble. Yes. Like my pebble the same. Yes. So it's a pebble band that has power? It is a prototype. It's not a real product yet. So if we are lucky, we may have to charge it right away. Cool. Because this is very low-power smartwatch, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's charging right now. With 200 mAh interest. Look at that. From the band? Yes, from the band. It has a flexible battery inside. Nice. And do you have even some more shapes around here? We have something a little wider, smaller. This one has a smaller capacity. So what's your materials? What do you use? It's a lithium-ion battery. It's lithium-ion. Lithium-ion battery. It's a typical lithium-ion battery structure with a nanofibre structure that stabilizes the battery versus a banding and twisting. Nanofibre. So you have some fiber configuration of the lithium-ion? Yes. And this is a very strong but flexible structure and it's highly porous. The electrolyte inside can flow freely. So it's a good protection but a safe device for the battery. So I've seen before another flexible battery, but it was other material. It was not the Tamayo, right? It's a different technology. Lower capacity? Some are lower capacity. Some are less flexible. Some are bendable only once, but while it's repeatably bendable. Repeatably forever? Bendable. So it can be again and again and again. It's a balance cycle of this radius, which is a 20 millimeter radius. It is reliable to bend over 100 times, over 1,000 times. 1,000 times. And it's a chargeable battery as well. So you can charge the battery just like any other secondary battery outside. Just charge it. Just like a lithium-ion battery, but it's chargeable. It's not a one time. So you're considering to be in closing smart textiles? Absolutely. Where is it going to be in this shirt? Whatever, wearable, collar, we can fit it into a tight space as well. The keys we can customize into different form factors. How about if you take this off, this part? Because the future of phones is going to be flexible display, flexible battery, right? Okay, we'll tell you just down to what we're doing. Oh, this is about 1.3 millimeter thick. Yeah, it can be thicker, it's okay. But I'm just wondering if, you know, like you can have a flexible display and your battery, right? Yeah, yeah. And then what else? A flexible motherboard, PCB, that's another issue, right? Yes, yes, yes. So the whole unit, the whole device is constructed of flexible components, and we supply the flexible battery to that kind of device. So how long have you been working on this? We have, the research has been done since 2016, and we are now in the stage of commercialized and industrialized technology. We have the production line set up in the end of last year. So we are now in Hong Kong. And now we are offering customization of form factors to new projects, because we think there are a lot of potentials, new projects that they need trial, small volume, and we're doing that for these ventures. Do you have any projects already happening? We have a few customers. Anything you can announce? Not yet. Nothing, we can announce. So maybe we're looking at here, maybe it's a jacket, or maybe it's something with VR, maybe it's gloves. What's the display? No, it's just an infrared to show you that there's like a battery inside. Some are real development, some are for illustration purpose. And a nice dress? Oh yes, sir. That would be so cool to have this. Yes, and a wallet? A pet collar can be one thing. Pet collar, yes. And so there's no risk of having any irritation, the skin contact against this battery. No, it doesn't get hot. Safe? No, it's not really, because it's okay, it's just because of the flat structure with large area, so it will dissipate quite well. So in terms of volume, this lithium ion compared to another, like the battery in my phone, for example, how compact is your energy compared to there? It has the same, not better, not worse. Same volume, same power. Same energy density, because it's the same chemistry structure, so it's the same. And does it help that lithium ion is the biggest battery technology in the world that's going to help your product too? It is a very common, I would say, it is a very common, very efficient energy storage system today. So we're adopting the same chemistry. First is the efficient, and second it is easy for industrialized because all the peripheral electronics will be the same. So same, same, same. But how does lithium ion was explosive or dangerous, but not yours? That's, oh okay, that's why we have the nanofibre structure which added additional safety feature to it. It is like a sponge, it's a very elastic but durable, so it will protect the battery from short circuit when it's deformed. One thing I want to highlight is, our battery actually won, with our nanotechnology structure, actually won the GoMetal award last year at the 45th Incidential Exhibition of Inventions in Geneva. That's one of, is it the biggest inventions convention or something? There's a lot of inventors there, right? Yes, that is true. Yes. Is it a fun show? Yeah, oh yes, and our solution is actually available in the market right now. We're not in a research mode right now, we're not in research mode, it's available, these are all working units. What we do is we actually work with customers to create different form factors of a unit for the devices, for the wearable whose mobile electronics or IoT devices, which they all require different form factors, that's the status we are, we are, we can go into production right now. So just contact you and start making products. Absolutely. Any shape, anything, any thickness. Yes, yes, customize. Anything. Yes. And factory is special, right? Yes. You have to make a special factory for this, but you have one. We have the pilot line and we plan to make a mass production scale next year when we have gathered sufficient small orders or one big order that we will do. So what do you think about the ID Tech Act show? It's very good, I would say it's one of the best shows that we have attended so far. A lot of high quality visitors and we have good business leaders throughout the exhibition. And it's a great platform for technology companies or startups like us to demonstrate our solution. We can work with potential customers or partners and we can collaborate to come up with even more creative solutions for the market. Are you going to be in flexible phones? We focus on the batteries and we help phone companies to make it realize down the road. Possible. Unbreakable flexible phone, throw it on the floor. Okay, okay, okay. All right.