 Welcome back, this is S.P.M. Baz, my name is Selda, of course, pala kwenya mi chandia ke jamis kuzote, muna ni fahamuna, kandangu ni kuna a legend, a mentor, a former manager, of course, a CEO, a radio presenter, working with energy radio. And we're here live at K University for amazing, amazing course. Moli Murecho, welcome to S.P.M. Baz. Happy new year. The last time I saw you was... What was it? Was it an event? I remember one of the events. Yes, the last time I saw you. What are you doing? Grud, of course. Ni kiangalia pala kwenya social media zako. You're posting, you're living large, you're investing, you're securing the future as well. Pia kwenya mi tenak, it's like there's something special about you because when you speak, the internet comes to stand still. Nairobians now shift their attention to here. What Moli Murecho is saying, of course, Moli Murecho is always right. Once a teacher, always a teacher. What is happening? I wouldn't say I'm always right, Kido, but what I do is I speak my truth and I speak it confidently and with a clear mind and clear conscience. So I guess some people understand that and some people sometimes rub off the wrong way and nothing much you can do there. It's whoever wants to get the truth, they'll get it, they'll understand. Whoever just wants to start drama is also going to start drama. What do you mean by starting drama? What do you mean by drama? No, I mean sometimes in a recent podcast that I was at, people didn't even watch the podcast. Many bloggers took a headline, ran with it, edited it to suit their agenda. So I was just like, okay, there's no winning. When it comes to spaces where everybody has a voice and an opinion, everyone is entitled to the opinion. So you let it just flow and you let it happen. So I'm all right. I don't think kuna matusi sigiaona by now. Unless somebody comes up with an original one. I mean, nikawahida. It's part of what you also signed up for being in the entertainment industry. So salavi. You're telling me about kuna matusi sigiaona. It means now, do you remember maybe a moment like this matusi? Is there a word maybe you felt like when you went to the social space, whatever to a keyboard, Kido was like, this is becoming now too personal. It is always personal, especially for us as women, whenever we are in these social media spaces and people are coming at us, they'll always hit out our sexuality, they will hit at our body image, they will hit at everything to do with, you know, what we look like. So it's something that again, like I've said, I mean, I've been in this industry now. I've been in my 17th year as a personality, radio, TV, online personality as well. So you take it all in stride. In fact, I don't even go through those comments. Once in a while I'll open, I'll enter, for example, X. Nafunguwa even do na patana na kumbora pa. And then I just brush it to the side and I focus. Many times it's even my admin will be on the, you know, the streets. Yeah, the social streets. I'm busy, but I mean, it's confusing. It's confusing. We'll clean it up and post. I mean, it's confusing. I'm getting, in fact, the same same influencers up and going, you know, 92C. Now, apatia cash. Whereas idea kufush, biya sharaflani, I'm borrowing. Mimi kampuniangwe ma reksime kwa contracted to do. So in the life. Why don't you open the socials? Sorry? Why don't you open your socials? I do open them. What do you mean I don't open them? They're very open. People tag me. I do respond whenever I can. It's a matter of I choose what is important to me. It's very important for you to. Many times, you know, we're on our phones like this. Raise your head. Push your head up. See the world. Sometimes we get lost in the virtual world. We forget there's the reality. The reality is that bills have to be paid. I have to be a parent. I have to take care of myself, my mental state as well. I need to engage in active activities. I need to meet my friends. I need to chill out. I need to go on holiday. There's so many things that we get to do on a daily basis. I took one in social media till that time. But you see this social media gives money at the end? Yeah. And that's why you employ people to run it. Right. How many people do you have running your social media? How many social media managers do you have? I have two at the moment. Yeah. Two at the moment. So I have for myself, my company. I've employed young people and they're all fresh from college, from uni. Yeah. In fact, the other day I was recruiting my apprentices. So I've started this sort of a program where I'm onboarding fresh graduates, fresh guys from colleges. So that because I mean there was crying. We have no places to go for attachment. We have no places to be employed. Who is going to take that leap of faith? Many potential employers are also saying, hey Genziz, we can't. They're too much. It's a headache. We can't work with them. But I am going against that. I'm saying, you know what? I believe if you are patient enough, because it's a labor of love. It's sacrifice for you to take the time and be patient with them and teach them how you want things to be done. Yeah, those will be difficult. See how you can work around it. Waliambao ni good from their own start. It's great for everyone, you see. So the end of the day, it's giving young people an opportunity to learn, to be introduced into the industry that I'm at. And it's value for everyone at the end of the day. Yeah. What is the experience so far working with Genziz? Man, Genziz, I love them. I feel like I click with them, especially when our ideas connect. They're very creative, super creative. I'm in the creative space and I always need that injection of new ideas, new blood, new energy and honor. It can't always be my way. They come in and they show me a different way of doing things and I'm like, I love it. And they challenge me to also get out there more and not just be at my social or safe space. Na toka tunahenda tunahshut bubaba barabarani tunahcollecta contentia tu sisiwenyewe kwewa na appendia ifosana. It is also a bit challenging because being new in any environment, obviously for them, they are learning. So they'll make mistakes and sometimes mimi na hitunezona suma but that's such a, you know, common sense would have shown you better. But no, they honestly don't know so take the time. Waleze. Wapileka na speed kidogo lakini piya sa zingine kanyaga breki sa zingine ongeza mafuta kidogo ifo ifo. Alafum nasongambele pamoja. Do you believe working with Genzi will help you maybe rebrand elevates to another level to stay more relevant in the game? Ya, I think it's a win-win situation. My experience, obviously experience will always help you get further but you need new, like I said, energy. You need new ideas in order for you to elevate. So yes, they are there to help me get to that next level but I'm also there to introduce them to even start thinking in a different way. Like for the team that I have right now, they may be creatives and that's great. But are they seeing how that creativity can be turned into money and that's why I come in because of my experience and my work and my investment story and all that. So they now get to understand a different angle of creativity is good, it's fun. Collecting content is great, it's fun but e-content it and it's idea in terms of money in my pocket. You mentioned about energy. How do you recharge your energy? Because of late, I don't know your state of mind right now. What is your mental state right now? It's very good. In fact, I'll be honest, I was very surprised with myself. I think, honestly, the version you're seeing now very different from how we'd have reacted two, three years back because like I said, Uki shiazoeshwa umeyona the same pattern umeyona you can predict. Even on that podcast, I said I know this is going to come. I know I'm going to train because of saying this. I know people come for me. I don't want any drama lakin in doyo ikato kia. So, Uki shiazoeshwa you are and you cannot predict history repeats itself, you know. So, niliyona and kasewa, here we go. Nika respond kwa nubuyangu, rafkiangu okto na yoi kaishi apu. And it's not from a bad place. The same thing I said in the podcast as well. And I hope he knows that. I hope he saw the podcast and I know the headlines. Okto. I hope he saw the podcast. Because you normally predict the future. How are you becoming this? Because you need to get yourself back. Yeah. What is the recovery process? It's not really recovery. It's just focus on what's important. Honesty, focus. I'm alive, you know. How do you focus? Listen. Kido. I am alive. That's it. I am alive. I was driving to work today and I was so happy. You know, good weather. I was happy to go to the show. I knew I was going to have a wonderful day. And I'm like, the one thing you must always tell yourself is you are alive. Nothing else will matter after that. You understand? Mindi yoi na unaeza kwa unaeza. Kilamcha kuna stay second na klia na pitiya. Nona. Kiki kumusha imagine you are alive. Kuna watu sayi labdata hawa jwezi. Watu wa mekufa. Watu wa na wish wangeko paliwe uko. You are here now. The good lord is giving you a chance to try again and again and again to get to your dreams. Right? What else you need? You have life. Imagine. Nothing else matters. I am alive. Nothing else matters. Most of the people take life for granted because you know what is happening in the country. Most of young people are trying to, you know, when things are becoming hard. They are trying to commit suicide. You have seen the rise of famizide in the country. You know? You are overcoming this. You know? Is it the economic harsh times? Yeah. My heart really goes out to the youth right now. They are facing so much. From joblessness, hopelessness, negativity, self-doubt. Nona. Nona. And that's why if every one of us who can offer positivity gave that positive. You know the world needs more positivity right now more than ever before. If we focus and said every day I will say something online to encourage someone. I will slide in the DMs and tell them keep on what you're doing. I love what you're doing. I love your content. Who am Nona to kwa page zeno? Wakatim na post. Namimu wana penda. Wakatu kucheka tuta check up amodya. When it's to give a word of encouragement if it's to say this is not right, something needs to be done. Raise your voice. You see? In the DMs people come to me and they tell me, you know, or maybe actually I see some content like Akinasa Miro and Shigwan. Yeah? Penda sana. And I make sure they know that I am the number one fan. I may not do much in terms of encouraging them. I don't know. But I want them to know. I see you. I love what you're doing. Keep doing that. Any other page. Yata kama nimtu ambaisi celebrity. Ukiwana anafana kituzuru. Unamun courage. Unam patia mawaida. Kidogo ama unam patia motisha. And that positivity spreads. And may I honestly believe? Blessings also come through that. Okay, so take time to talk to these young people in your offices. Pale kwa dukau kipatenanamtu. Labdai iwa word of encouragement will prolong or make them think about instead of going to off myself, let me give it one more try. You see, words are powerful. Taking time to listen to people is very powerful. So let's do more of that. More of that, of course. We're supposed to be doing more of that now. You know, when you post something on your social media, of course you're always there to encourage, to educate, maybe to inform. Do people really consume your message in a positive way? Because anytime you're trying to even raise a positive criticism online, about if you want to criticize something, people see it as something different. There's always that shift. People take it negative. Do you feel like now you don't need to speak no more? You don't need to say anything? Because at the end, people will still come back to... How much will come back continue? Listen, I am a storyteller first and foremost. That's why I've been on radio for all these years. I have to tell my story, I have to tell other people's stories. It's what I do. I will never stay quiet when I feel passionately about something. There will always be somebody in social media. You could be saying I love the color white. Somebody will come and say, oh, so you hate the red. So you don't like this. There will always be somebody saying something contrary to what you're saying. Sometimes just don't respond. Again, look at the positive comments, the people who actually resonate with your message. Go where you are appreciated, respond to the people who appreciate you, and keep it moving. Don't waste your energy on people who... By the way, ata-ata kumbuka kiliwali kwantikiake shoyake. You know, they write it maybe out of anger or stress. Next week. How are you ata kumbuki? Oh, nili mtrolu unikasema 1, 2, 3. They don't. It's just life. Where do you feel appreciated? Do you feel people still value respect you in the social space? I mean, yeah. And it's not for me to say whether they respect me or not. Because I cannot live by people's opinions, kiddo. I cannot. I do not care whether they love me or don't love me. What I care about is, am I the best version of myself every day? Am I improving? Is there a girl? That's what I was telling you. I surprised myself this time around. Naila e hiting kwa na poke apale kwa ex. Ateniaza kujibiza na eivi-ivi 1 by 1. Ay, ay, ay, ay. My mind is very clear. Focus on what's important. That is growth to me. I congratulate myself and say, good job, Richo. You rose above it. You said what needed to be said and you left it at that. So, that to me is more important than whether people love or respect me. The ones who do and they come and tell me, I take that love. I really do. And I don't take it for granted. The ones that don't, it's okay. Do you feel like right now in the space you are right now, you've learnt from mistakes you've met before that you can never want to wish to do it again because of, anytime you speak things take a different time? Yeah, yeah, I've learnt how to express me self better, especially on social media. You know, before I'd assume people understand what I'm saying. So, I keep it short and sweet. or I don't, I don't agree with you on this. And I say something different and we agree okay we see things differently, and that's it, na mushei en dele lakene of course social media bin, social media people will really ma taniyadama, tusu kondani what to do, so I've learned and I've grown and I know there's more growth to come. So I'm open to that and I'm open to the universe Surround yourself with people who to say man come a mentor, ambao piya niwa kubwa kukuliku, ambao onona ambali, ambao watakwati ya mawaida and sometimes they'll even call you out. They'll call you out on your BS and tell you hapa kidogo, hapana. No, tawas kizo, say mawa kusawa, inye ni li kosaia, now I know better. Don't surround yourself with yes men and yes women and people who are always telling you, au kusawa, au kusawa, you can do no wrong. It's a lie, those are not your friends. Your real friends, yes, they'll love you and you'll know that they love you and even when you do wrong, they'll correct you with love. Say mawa, una jwenim tawangusawa, lakini hapa kidogo, uli choma. Akinikuja tu have lunch. Nikiku ambi asasa vinyoneza, correct. That's the people I surround myself. And they're not many, the smaller, I mean it's like, the bigger you grow, the smaller your circle becomes. Keep those people close. Do you have real friends? I do. How many friends do you have? I'm not counting family. What is the special about these five people? Three of those friends held me down when I was in campus. They are ladies. They covered me when I was at work. I left for Kulukuna surprise cut. So those are the three and we've known each other ever since even after campus. In fact, tonight a holy day very soon. I'm so excited because of that. And then the other two friends, one has been a mentor to me in radio for many years. Is that person who calls me out and tells me hapa kidogo, me choma. Kidogo me choma. Is that person? Anaji juwa. Anaji juwa. Anaji juwa. If I was to replace one of the friend is a male friend, would that happen? If you were to do what? Replace one of your female friend. With a male friend. Is there room for you adding? Is this you're trying to ask if you can have a male friend in your life without any strings attached? Funny things in Yajipata kwa situation. I do believe that yes, ladies can be friends with men, but boundaries, very clear boundaries have to be set. Very clear boundaries have to be set so that and even time spent, you can't spend every day with someone and think that uta kwa neutral. Kido kwa feelings naeza handa. Unaza kumakalia different. Kupa na kwa kana smanzu ribi. Una waka laki naeza, nae yao biha tzimbaya. In that situation before? No, no, no, no. If it's no, if it's a friend, it's a friend. I've never been too close with someone to a point where feelings change and become romantic. If it's romantic, it will be romantic from day one. And I will know all the attributes that I like about this person. If it is a friend, it is a friend. In fact, most of the time it's a collab and it will be a shout out to Nafanya Pamoja, amatuko kwa radio, amatuko kwa social events. Ya. Because we mentioned about no mumbo yama pensi, attributes, if you love someone, just to ask you this, I know it's random. Uliza, ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni. I don't know if the right time to ask you this, but I'm sorry to say this. I don't know what you take about love. What about love? What is the understanding of love? Love is a beautiful thing, but love is also... can be scary as we have seen. Many people do many bad things in the name of love. So you have to get into love knowing that you can live logic behind. You know, love is my feelings. Sendio. My feelings nipoa. Laki ni piya inki anakili. Kusisa hawa. Na wuki jisa hawa, sasama beshteza kuna fukwambia oya. Kiza? Kusi jisa hawa, you stop hanging out with us because now you're in love with this person. You still are your own person, first and foremost. So take time also away from this person that you love, build, you know, grow yourself, spend time alone, discover more things about yourself. It even makes that relationship interesting because you'll come back and tell, hey, guess what I did today? Oh wow, I missed you away for a week when you were on vacation. And here so how was it? Sikila wakachim kwa moji evi mwa moji evi. Atam taboeka. Talking about love, marriage, of course we've seen recently celebrities, you know, breaking up. You know, I don't want to, I don't need to send, I don't need to mention names. But I don't know... All over the world, kwanza. It's not just in time. These people are rushing for... people rushing into marriage. Is there marriage in the protestant meaning? What is understanding for what when they got their marriage? I don't know even the right... Exactly. Kiniu na kukundu sa mimi mamba ya relationships, mimi mamba ya marriages, mimi. I am not the person atam mimi, I'm trying to figure it out. I don't have the answers, I really don't. I don't know what challenges you are there, right? Yes, I did have a man in my life. If you do that time to this time, you can share with us maybe the experience, the journey. What has changed? I think it's just a lot of pressure in the world now. Everybody is trying to look like another couple, maybe you're comparing yourselves. Oh, we are mefanyu, evi mipiyanataka. Social media. One of you is Maisha Watuengi, Sanapele social media. We think it's what it is, but it's very different from reality. So you're adding unnecessary pressure to the relationship. I say this, but we are mefanyu, evi mipiyanataka. See you. What do you mean by time? Given the chance you'll go back to marriage? Oh yeah, marriage is a beautiful thing. I don't see anything wrong with the they say it's a constitutional marriage. It's nice. It has its benefits. If you're getting into it, again, Akili. Yeah, so I wouldn't say you don't get married. I also wouldn't say Will you go back? Would I get married? Why not? Kwa ni? What is that one thing you're missing? We're missing about marriage. It's been so long. How many years? It's been long. Four years now. When you miss about marriage? I guess that companionship. Companionship. Yeah, Ilea. Siku mekwa VP, challenges nambazo naeza or flowed kido gom tuakaisa kusahidi ane na nene. So I think that's what people really crave for in any relationship, not even just only, not only in marriage. We wanna say we were not created to be alone. We are. The way we were created, munga luku ataki, no man is an island, no honor. So having that special someone in your life adds something extra, which is a good thing. Is that something you wish to change when you get back to marry? When you get married? I'd say I think it's have I changed? It's not about the relationship. It's me. I like to take responsibility for my in my relationships, right? So kikachini alafu fikiriye am I a better person now than who I was before? Do I understand relationships better now than I did before? Am I more accommodating? Am I more patient? Am I more even creative when it comes to keeping the fire burning in the relationship? So it's I'm clearly not the same person I was. I have to do it for a year. Where now, eh? Wachakazanda nisana sheche. Sheche wachakazanda nisana. You'll see. You'll imagine when I had you on there. That's all I can say. I'm happy now. Yeah? What for being happy? Yeah. I'm slower to speak. I take, I bite my tongue. Kuchama li kwa niwa, wala, wala. Skwizi. Anafu fikiriya kwanza. And you think about it and then later even the next days when you say okay. So this is what I think. Yeah. So you don't want to say something? I didn't? You don't want to say something? I don't want to say. I've already said it. Be slow to speaking. We women talk too much sometimes. We talk too much. I know and there's going to be someone in the comments. Ma'amana say, radio TV Nmingi. So that Nitoi. But nana nyumba to liya. There's always debate online who should know be the head of the family. At times now, right now, with the conditions, we need to split. We need to agree. Like I'll pay the fees, I'll do the shopping, you'll handle this. For me, space. We really need to share our finance like on table. We split have a joint account. Ya know, I can't speak on a life, I am not experiencing right now. The opportunities are maybe, may I pose to you because I'm not in there. You understand me? I can only talk about me, myself and I. Malimurecho, MCSK CEO. Of course MCSK unable to account for the realities collected in 2023. Around 56 million. Now I believe you are in the entertainment scene, you are in the music industry. What is really happening? I wish I knew, I wish I knew, Kido I'll be honest. I and I think many creatives, musicians especially have been wondering the role of MCSK, how the royalties are collected, how it's distributed. There's never been a clear answer and I think Nonini would be the best person to ask when it comes to this question. He has taken it upon himself to take certain individuals to court or to just ban it out legally. So he would be the best person to answer, even I'm waiting for the answers myself. Many, what I know is that many musicians have, they lack faith in MCSK as a body of collecting royalties. So if the truth comes out and change is affected and done and there's transparency, then they will also feel more encouraged to register with MCSK. Right now I wonder if artists are even registering with MCSK, our mother just say, you know what, we know we're not going to get royalties. Let's just focus on stage performances, getting gigs, going to these clubs and concerts. That's what we're going to make our money. New pandemangina is still a bit murky, so I wish everything just works out in the end for the artists. Can the artists ascend themselves with shows, views, endorsement alone? I think right now a lot of these streaming platforms are out giving artists the avenue to collect significant amount of money. I mean, Akina Bumple being one of them, you know. So that's encouraging. We're seeing artists, at least they can see, you know, up on a jionea, how many people streamed, how much money has been collected for you and everything. So I think artists are focusing on the streaming sites, them getting the gigs and the shows. That's what they're seeing. At least money is coming in that I can see for myself where it's coming in from. So it's our idea, but it's just a strategy where we come from. What are you doing to make sure that you're top of mind for these corporates to give you gigs? How are you branding yourself online as well? Gone are the days where an artist just posts about their music and thinks that's enough. It's not enough. Right now what I think is everyone is a content creator whether you like it or not. Everyone, if you're already a presenter, you'll have to be a content creator on social media. TV presenter, same. Musician, actor, whatever, sports personality, you are by default automatically a content creator. So how are you going to make money from that? That's the question. Are musicians really content creators? Yes. What do you mean? Of course they are. No. 1 is kiki zao. Kiki zao when he's on me. Who are these artists with kiki? One at Ulekan and one online. Can I suggest names? No need. And I'm not even trying to bash. It's their strategy for pushing their music. If it works for them, well and good. If it doesn't, change tact. Talking about money. Of course, you once manage sales. What is the highest amount of money you earn from MSK during those days, those times? You want to be shocked and then see this trend again. We actually never registered with MSK. We did not register it. We just focused on concerts, gigs, corporate endorsements. That's how we did it. Why? For what? For what? I know maybe, or put it like this. By the time we were, we had started the process. Initially, our mind was just on gigs, gigs, gigs. By the time now, I was told, hey, there's this thing called MSK and your boys need to register for it. We had started the process of inquiring how to do it. And I knew there was a number you're going to be given. We had already made inquiries. But that was also towards the end of the relationship. The management relationship that we had. You mentioned you didn't register with MSK. Of course, you were a manager. What was the main source of revenue for sales? Because apart from shows? Gigs. Gigs are left us at the skizotunes, the streaming platforms. The highest amount of money you earn from streaming platforms? Skizotunes. Can't remember. Can't remember. You can't remember? You can't be accountable. Can't remember. Because that was a very long time ago. But you can ask them, they have the records, the streaming platforms. And you know they don't just give you money at once in Alamsam. It's broken down quarterly. So by the time you sit down now to account for everything. And to be honest, it was a matter of whatever money is coming in, you set an amount aside. And then now, nika ma Mishaara, tu lupo Mishaara. Situ na chukwa, tu kila kituna empty. Because then your coffers are empty. And you won't be able to shoot videos. You won't be able to go for shows. And cater for something, expenses. Mishaara lupo kama gapu, kwa na anka ma gapu kama izi? I'm not going to answer that. Those days. I'm not going to answer that. Highest amount of money you earn from YouTube? From YouTube views. Highest amount? No. It's no need. Good money? There's no need. See, remember what I told you, I'm learning. Yeah, I'm also learning. What not to say, what is important. And I wish we could move on. You know sometimes they can move on from Mambuia sailors. I want to come on now, when I want to move on now, whatever. They moved on. Oh, you're just better because they moved on. No, I'm not. But they want to. Why haven't you moved on? Have I not moved on? You people have not moved on. Have you moved on? These questions. That question in its own. What indication is there to show that I've not moved on? I have been winning awards as a CEO of my company. I have been. Thank you. Africa recognition. I have been mentoring young people. I've been holding sessions. We had one just the other day. Mentoring, you know, campus guys. I am going into corporate world a bit more when it comes to doing business B2B. That is moving on. Instead of being stuck in something happened many years ago. Kenya's passion of moving on is that you having an interview without mentioning even a sailor's word. But if you don't ask questions that I won't answer. But it's you people who ask me the question. So if I don't answer, it's like, oh, she has something to hide. If I answer, oh, you have not moved on. So that's what I'm talking about. Muambia kira kido. Stop asking Waliwul Rachel questions about sailors. Because if they ask, because I also understand, you know, I've done what you've done, right? Interviews and I still do it. So I feel the pain of you want this exclusive or you want answers. I would have felt bad if I was you and you've asked me a question and I refused to answer. I'm like sasa. Do you have a right not to comment as well? I do. But I think it's, I am too empathetic. I place myself in the shoes of the journalist. I'm like, let me give him the answers or heard the answers that they want. But Len is letting me in trouble. So keeping my mouth shut. How do you feel when you see when you comment something about them? Then one of the few members responding, you know, it's more of like, he's disrespecting you. Yeah. So it's all, it's within his right. Someone who raised, mentored. So In the music industry. That's how you not moved on. I simply don't care. I don't care. I really honestly genuinely do not care. I'll be asking you a last question about sailors. Of course, one of the sailors member, you know, currently right now is admitted. We saw Eric Komondi. Oh, wait, he was re-admitted. Oh. Say, I will just say who are you and figure out who are timeline. But who is it? Come on, you're in the social space. Like I said, I'm busy. I'm busy living my life, my real life out of social media. We saw Eric Komondi coming through for Miracle Baby. He's calling Kenyans, appealing Kenyans to raise a certain amount of money just to clear the hospital bill. What's the question? You've seen it? Yes. You tried to reach? No, honestly, truthfully, I saw it today earlier because, you know, I was on my show earlier on, so me, I just focused on my show. I saw it as the show ended when I was getting ready to come here. I've seen a small clip because somebody tagged me. And I'm like, what Eric is doing and has been doing for many Kenyans is not just Miracle Baby. It's very noble and, by the way, I really applaud him and I feel like as a poor sana he's reinstilling a lot of faith in humanity not you as Kenyan people. And I wish Miracle Baby a quick recovery. Ali kwa na yoshi tawakati ali kwa nili kwa managerake it was early stages, I think. He had shared that issue with me I believe a big chunk of the change in order for him to be a bit healthier is lifestyle. Lifestyle change and this is something I also told him. So, don't drink. I guess he stopped. Eat healthier. I know, saipa nilabde me fika piya e me... What could be the reason? I'm not a doctor. Not a medical expert. But you've been with him. What was the first time he told you about the issue? What is the issue about? I honestly, again, I just knew something up with his stomach. That's all I know. That's all I know. I thought at first it was maybe the ulcers and boy we made sana but I wish him quick recovery. So, about lifestyle the way because artists live large. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. You know, with everything, with everything. You mentioned to stop drinking. I don't know. I said maybe he already did. Usini miskotwe What I'm saying is with any kind of healthy living and I speak this also for myself, right? You need to really watch your lifestyle especially yes, in the entertainment space as well that don't party too hard, take time to rest rest your body. Because you'll be here there everywhere. You're chasing the bag. That's great. But you're chasing the bag and you're chasing the bag. Take time for self recovery. Sleep it well and your body will pay you in kind because of that. No, no. So in this case, like I said, I wish him all the best. Is this the main challenge, the main issue in the music industry with artists? In terms of lifestyle? How would you know? I'm not in that circle anymore. Like I said, it's been a while. So I don't know what people are consuming now. We don't hang around artists as much but all I know is people are busy chasing the bag. What do you want to chase bag, man? What do you mean you don't hang around with artists? You don't have an artist friend that you normally look for sit down. You don't trust artists no more? It's not about trust. It's just I'm not in that space anymore. So me ni maa mabuana ni konamjutu hangu. Ni ki toka kazi ni nyumbani homework. Ki toka nyumbani ni kazi ni biasyara. You can't be everyone, everyone you can't be everything to everyone. You need to pick where does it matter. What makes sense to you? None matter. So how long have you been in this? How long have I? Have you been avoiding, you know, just being alone? I'm not avoiding, I'm not trying to be alone, Kido. Trust me, no. I surround myself with my people, my circle of friends. Wasani nikazi, usani pali yo nikazi. Separate? No, I don't go to their houses. I don't hang out with them at their concert and sit with them because you need to be able to separate your work life and your life life, so to speak. Social life, work life, personal life. So what I do is, like for instance, people that I cheer for, I think they're doing a lot of work and they're putting in their work and they're doing well. So to commit to come up with a concert, event come my art, it's all love. But I couldn't interview, I catch up with them. And ineshia po, naopiwa najua the role that I play. Everybody has a role to play. Malimuwa, so you wind up. Is there someone you can trust in the music industry with an information or anything? Is there someone you can trust? Trust is earned. You don't just go around trusting anyone and everyone. You can't trust everyone. Trust yourself first with what you know. Get the information, vet the information, research on whatever it is that you're looking for and then act according to now what your instincts tell you. That's the best way. That means you have trust issues. Everybody has trust issues. If all of us trusted everybody and everyone, we wouldn't be locking our houses. We wouldn't be, we'd walk anywhere, anyhow, at any hour, you know. Laziimu wu yuwe, you watch your back and you watch who you're with, what you can say, what you'd rather keep to yourself for that particular point in time. Si kila mtombara kumbea mazuri pia. Na jichunga tuwu, lakini pia, yai manishu na jitenga. Mingualwi people have fun, enjoy your life. Yeah. I'm very honored to have you on SPM Buzz. I appreciate your work, what you've done with your life, your journey, your musical journey. Guys, as you can see, Stimi mefanya ele kitu. Tukoko agiza. I know you guys have a lot of questions to ask. I'm not answering any more questions about sailors. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. And I like how people are saying that I'm using this to get clout. Whoa! Anyway. Have you ever cloutched? Ay, akas gali. Me ni kwa bizi bada. Is that cloutched? Is he going to give me money? Is he going to give me money? Am I inanfoja tu ni ten alafu? Alafu? Ay, bada. To focus na maisha your reality. O chena na iya virtual appa ya social media. I want one message to those that are cloutched. I do you, bada. Mi ama do me. You do you. I will do me. You do you. All right. Thank you so much for watching SPM Bars. My name is Sid Pakileo. Napalegunya social guys. Find time. Go search for Malimurecho. She is doing an amazing job with energy radio of course. Doing great. Please listen to energy radio. Any time you get a chance to listen to a radio, please make sure it is best radio and energy radio. Appreciate that. And tell them to also follow my company at MRX to the world. That is our hand all across all social media platforms. Because kolo asani ambolabdo and kipanda to a manage. Who knows? I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. You're going back? Maybe. What do you mean? Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. He doesn't know clout chasing. I don't know. I don't know answer and find out. All right. This is SPM Bars. Of course, make sure you guys have tuned in on my show Kwa Block by Silva Kido