 So treat for me. We've about for our second coffee chat this week because we missed a couple of weeks because we were way And there's so many points that we want to talk about so before we get started into our topic for the day, Bryce How are you doing? I'm good. This is a treat for me, too You text me yesterday about doing a second coffee chat. I was like hell. Yeah, let's do it Just um first and foremost I think there's just so many things on people's minds at the moment There's a lot of people Telling people what to do what to think what to this and it's just recoiling me a lot at the moment because the reason I like having these conversations was just you chatting and I chatting out loud as it's just our thoughts It's just to talk through between friends and hopefully it can help with bits resonate for some people But I did want to start before we start just saying that people I've been having so many Messages on the various social media and emails saying that people have been unsubscribed from my youtube So if people could go to my Catherine Edwards dot live news Website there's a sign up for the newsletter now on that newsletter I do not spam people at all But I can share a lot of information on there because I'm getting a lot of people Ask me about particular health solutions that I work with and I can't say a lot of it on here So that's the type of thing I share my newsletter Um, so today we were going to talk about something that's certainly very dear to my heart at the moment about being patient and not making decisions from a fear place of fear when you're When you're feeling in that fear vibration or lower vibration Because I think it's something that's affecting a lot of people at the moment with how long this uncertainty is going on Oh, absolutely. It's affected me too. I mean it's it's kind of comical because patience is probably the biggest Lesson for me. This whole life is having patience Um, and there's a joke like if you ask God for patient be careful what you ask for but if you ask God for patience He's going to bring situations into your life that's going to teach you patience Right, it's that's the thing about life is nothing's just handed to us on a silver platter We have to achieve it by working through it and learning and maybe that's the big lesson for us All right now is because Catherine did you think we'd still be sitting here in 2022 summer of 2022 Not in a million years. I don't think anyone did and I think this subject goes very hand in hand With what we talk about all the time about embracing the present moment because the thing is is when you're not being patient There's a danger that you're constantly wishing your life away You know, we've talked a lot about when this happens when that happens And the thing is is all you're doing then is giving your power away and putting your your happiness your peace your gratitude into The future and something that is you're telling energetically is unattainable But it's funny you should say about the patients because I used to be and I still Have got tendencies in that direction the most impatient person I mean my friends used to make a joke that they'd hurry up on my gravestone Because I was always wanting to do so many things at once and I have learned a lot about that recently I really have and I think you know when you lose anyone very close to you That can really bring that back very strongly as well because you realize just how How fleeting this moment that we're on this planet is in this current body Yes, it is and and um It's interesting because I've said this to you Catherine. I know we're all ready for the flip and part of me is is um kind of I mean i'm an aquarium and we're kind of Bohemian Zodiac, you know, we're very detached and we live and let live and but i'm i've gotten very frustrated with uh, The monotony of every single day Waiting waiting waiting when is this gonna happen? Well when this flips this happens and it's like well, no But even though my day is very much the same. I actually I like my life Yeah, no, it's not what I want with the flip right now. I still like my life Like I still have a really good life. I have so many amazing wonderful friends including yourself and You know, I've got a roof over my head and I know that's one thing we spoke about before we hit record Is a lot of people are feeling that in patience and fear because of the money situation and I I get that like I totally get that But you know, it's like it's so we do we do start to make decisions hastily based in a in a lower vibration of fear and whenever a Decision is made well unless it's like, you know You have to make a split decision to take your life That's a good decision based in fear But other than that it sometimes are not the best decisions to make and being able to like sit into something and settle into it And settle into the fear and to get to the bottom of it and understanding that this is a part of a bigger picture And having that patience and also with patience comes trust Yeah trusting the divine plan Yeah, it's so important that trust and and you know looking at your situation Obviously, that's going to be different to everyone that's watching this You know, so some people like you and I have spoken that at the moment We're really really happy with our personal situations and that's really great place to be in There's going to be other people that aren't and that's when there's a Clear message from the universe that you need to make changes in your life from one point to the other So when you look at everything that's coming as a message and with everything that's become so obvious over the last couple of years One thing that has become very obvious is that as a human race a lot of us Put value on things that are just not serving us at all, you know material possessions, you know look at What we eat look at the fact that We can make time to listen to a podcast or Watch something on Netflix or or go go out drinking with friends But people can rarely make time to cook a healthy meal for the family now You know priorities have gone so off shift and it's not helping us So sometimes just like we've said when the freedom is being taken away from you You make you realize how hard you want them and that you're not going to let that happen I think that can be the same on the financial side of things is making you take a really hard look sometimes What are you spending your money on what are you spending your energy on and what are you attracting into your life? I mean certainly I think you know in your country and my country the cost of living is going up exponentially And salaries on so there's a lot of people that are really really feeling the pinch now And that's when we have to sit in that trust and not jump into doing something that we might regret later Because as you said unless you're about to beat and buy the lion It's never a good decision unless your life's in danger to make a decision from a fear because you know you will Repent at leisure. It will it will never be in your highest interest Well, and I think too and like for me, I I'm not really like a money person Anyway, I always laugh and that's why I've always dated four men is because I never really cared about that was not something I ever really cared about because I was more interested in the person than their resume, you know And um, I think too I've noticed a lot, especially in america. It's probably the same in the united kingdom as well It's probably the same in canada, australia europe Oh, oh even maybe some some countries in the east where our expectation For life and what we expect and level of comfort that we expect When that starts to shift and we start to experience I don't think we realize that we actually can live on less than we take in if that makes sense Unless you go to another country And so that might be the big lesson for a lot of us right now before there's a financial Now, I I don't know if the financials live is all of a sudden we're all just going to have money I think that might be kind of dangerous actually just to give everybody a bunch of money when they Have been through such trauma like there needs to be some kind of process of like Trauma therapy and so you're not reacting and still in the same way you were before But um, it's also a lesson like say, you know, and I I tell myself because even in the yoga sutras And shri swami satisha nanda's commentary. He talks about this You know the whole point of yoga is to find yourself in total alignment with with source with god And allowing your brain to take kind of the backseat the ego to take a backseat, right? And he brings up like when things like anxiety fear All that kind of stuff starts to come up It's a way to show you where you're mistrusting where you're not trusting Source you're not trusting god And I I and I'm saying that to myself too because I absolutely struggle with anxiety for sure 100 struggle with anxiety So that's a lesson for me as well. And I always have to remind myself that I've never been led astray I've been led astray There's it's Everything has always worked out And so what makes me think at this point it's not going to work out at the what makes me think after 39 years on this earth All the sudden god's not going to be there The universe isn't going to be there, you know and and um, and when we do live in that place of fear, it's it's I think that's when we start to cut off energetically from opportunities as well Right And so we end up we end up being our own worst enemy. We end up self sabotaging Yeah, it's a completely true. So I think it's so important to recognize it because we talk about vibration a lot resonance Your energetic field that you're putting out whichever all of these things are relevant And when you are feeling yourself Going into that fear vibration, which we all do I mean why we're talking about it today because I was sharing something with Bryce before we started about how I could feel myself going in there for one particular area of my life And it's so important that when you recognize it Then you can choose to switch it and do something about it And as you say ask yourself those questions So some of some of the tips we can share about what we do when we feel ourselves Swipping into that vibration and the first thing I do Is concentrate on my breath To stop it going down further And what I'll do is just very simple breathing. You don't need anything elaborate, you know I'll do the four count breathing for four count out for six just slow down your breathing Don't force the exhale just to bring your body back into more of a Balance calm state and then quite often it's a bit. What is it Byron Katie? You asked, you know, is it real? Yeah That's the next place I go to is this real? Is this a real crisis situation that I need to really react to? Or is it not have I got time? Do I need to learn something from this? Is there something more in there? Yeah, and I would tell people to look up what catastrophe thinking is I did not know what that was until my therapist pointed out to me And a lot of people you don't have to have PTSD or CBTSD to go to catastrophe thinking If you have any type of anxiety it could that could happen And so catastrophe thinking is when your brain You don't do it intentionally your brain just jumps to the worst case scenario for every And and when I learned about that it was a way for me to actually sit back and say wait a minute What's the likelihood of that happening? You know like what's the likelihood of this happening like this is me catastrophe thinking I can label it I know what it is. It's not it's my thought. It doesn't belong to me. It's just part of an anxiety And um, and I think you're and somebody said to like there's someone, you know Is this going to matter in five five years from now? Yeah, exactly That's a very very good question to ask people ask yourself isn't it and what you've shared there I mean it's something really useful that you've learned from a really good therapist and Sometimes labels can be really helpful Can't they because they can instantly make it understandable for you and put it in perspective Yeah, it's it's it's you being able to organize your thoughts And once you're able to realize I think that your thoughts aren't necessarily you But a reaction to a situation only Then you can actually start to separate yourself from the core issue and once you can do that you have Then have power over it. Yeah And that's very yeah very very helpful and that's and I know we were talking about this before we started filming I know people have a bad view on therapy, but not all therapists are bad Not all therapists are part of the controllers guys. My my trauma therapist was amazing. She's amazing and she saved me. So um I saved myself. She just taught me how to save myself. So you know, this is what's so lovely, isn't it? As you say there's so many tools out there for people But the first step is to recognize isn't it that you're slipping into that vibration thought pattern Because once you recognize it you can then you open up a lot of choices to do something about it If you can't recognize it, then you don't have the choices available to you to actually shift it Yeah, and that's and that the breathing is fantastic too. You're talking about because the breath is connected to the nervous system So once you can calm the nervous system down you can start to Hopefully think more rationally and think clearer and if that still is if you're still catastrophe thinking you can go Well, is this Is this the actual worst-case scenario that probably won't happen? You know is is um is what we have nothing but to fear but fear itself You know and um and and yeah, so there's all these different practices you can do but yeah it is recognizing when when When that fear takes over Instead of you controlling the fear the fear is controlling you And life's too short to let fear control you I mean, I know I share because I do struggle with complex post traumatic stress disorder So it's it is an anxiety disorder and once you have that you don't ever really get rid of that You just learn how to tame it and so I know I know for me. I have weird OCDs about certain there's certain things I'm very OCD about that are ridiculous like I'll get really finicky to you about how the the towels are folded in the bathroom Like something very very strange like that, but now I know When that kicks in That I'm trying to control something because there's something outside of inside of me That I don't feel like I'm in control of does that make sense? So we start to see patterns That we do that are actually just showing us they're highlighting for us That there's something inside of us that needs to be out realigned and once you can recognize that You can turn that stress and actually as our friend shanti says turn the lead to gold alchemize it start breathing Start journaling to bring yourself back to a grounded space So you can have a clearer perception of what it's actually happening in your life And it makes so much sense why so many people are feeling this at the moment because of course So many people have felt for the last couple of years That a lot of their choices have been taken away from them now Whether that's real or not is a different matter It is in some circumstances, but not necessarily in all but doesn't matter. That's the point to the individual Doesn't matter. It's their perspective at the time And so therefore they'll try and take control back in other ways and we see those You know being reflected in behaviors that are then unfortunately Of reinforcing that loop of lower and lower in their vibration And the reason one of the reasons we wanted to have this chat today is because we have had quite a lot of people Reaching out saying they're feeling this and it's to recognize that it's okay to feel that It's absolutely okay to feel that It's completely, you know Understandable and then give yourself a back on pat on the back If you are recognizing that you're feeling that because now There's so many tools that you can employ to do something about it And I I was listening to a teacher a couple of days ago and she was talking about a yoga teacher She was she was talking about the patterns of anxiety and she said something super interesting too that I want Because we've talked about this Catherine like excitement is excitement Yeah, good depends on the person's perspective And she was saying that even when you go through a change a really good change in your life It can it can still result in some anxiety There can still be a trauma response to something good It's that extreme change that is what causes that panicky Anxiety so it's not just the fact that like this these last couple years have been hell on earth That it's not just that there's also when good things happen It can cause As wild as that sounds it can cause a reaction An anxiety-based reaction because everything's changed even if even if it even if it's for the better Right and so and so just acknowledging that and I've said this before too like we're all You know, there is no such thing as reality It's all perception and expectation is also the thief of joy, right? So we've expected We've expected that we were going to be living in this utopia by this point and it hasn't happened But that expectation Is the thief of joy and so A hundred percent is you know any time it's even you know the problem is it's even when people are saying Oh, I'm so looking forward to my holiday Yeah, you can have something to look forward to and then get back enjoying your current day to day life because This I think this is one of the biggest lessons that I've seen and I'm noticing it a lot in interactions with people and things is this Living on the never never and again It just doesn't serve you you cannot do that as a species in nature It's against all your survival instincts if you're not focused on the right here right now Then you're in trouble because you're not putting your attention where it really needs to be So for example, we were talking before we started filming about grounding and how important that is for people That's a very very important for people, isn't it particularly if they feel they're fitting into that fear vibration Yeah, and one thing you can see too for those who are new to this and are experienced starting to like Analyze these emotions. They're feeling Um, we we we're escape artists human beings like we don't want like we we will try to use escapism a lot Which I think a lot of people right now are so focused on the flip because they're trying to escape the uncomfortableness of what's happening now, but that's not the point of Point is to be here in the moment, you know and to work through that and you know And so I you know we always say in order to like come up into the higher chakra points You have to actually descend into your body. You have to actually go deep into your own self Um, and if I notice me about the chopper system that base one is mulladar That's all about being in your body about being here on this earth in this present moment And and so part of grounding is actually coming back to yourself And I've noticed that a lot like we've talked about captain like past lives are super interesting. They're super cool I know we've all had them with each other But when you're so focused on the past life situation What are you avoiding in this life? What are you Because you're not there now That you're not there You're here at this moment. So this is It's so so important that I mean it really is so so important on so many different levels because you cannot Shift anything in your life, whether it's physical whether it's emotional whether it's spiritual Until you accept it and understand why it's there for you at this time You know, you can you can do just placement activities. You can do whatever you like But until you've actually really sat with it acknowledged it and if there's a lesson there to be learned Which there always is learnt the lesson. It's not going to go It's just going to keep coming back and keep coming back and get more and more extreme Oh, yeah, that's better to do it now Yeah, oh, yeah, it's not going anywhere that karma is not going anywhere guys. That's your work karma is a beautiful thing It's your it's your work in this life. It's what you're working through and it's not going anywhere You know the whole perspective of the universe is that we're We live forever anyway So the universe is like take as much time as you need you do this again in the next life Sure, we'll do it again in next life So you are the one in the driver's seat as to how quickly you move through this stuff You are the one that gets to decide that by depending on whether you want to actually sit and be uncomfortable and work through that Or keep escaping and then living in a fear-based State it's all in your power and that's and that's the biggest plot twist. There is is that it's all in your power to do that It's no, but it's it's not in the controller's power It's not in your bank's power. It's in your power. That's the plot once So I'd be really interested for people to let us know in the comments below because everyone's going to have their own tips that work for them And the thing is we are all individual everyone's circumstances are different. So having a range of tips I like look think about it. It's not my spice cupboard in my kitchen You know, I'll be drawn to different spices on different days, you know Depending on how I'm feeling physically and emotionally and that's what I like to have with all these bio hacks or health tips or Or just general good old getting back to life lessons I was listening to a fascinating podcast About being more human and and there's so many things that we've lost connection with so for example Anyone who sees me out on my daily wars. I always wear the minimalist barefoot shoes And my favorite pair have got holes all over them But I'm not throwing them away because they still function perfectly. I look a bit odd But they're so comfortable But the thing is is this to me was a really good lesson for people. So when you wear Minimalist barefoot shoes or go barefoot Instead of normal shoes or trainers or really expensive running shoes or anything You regain 60 percent of the strength in your foot And 40 percent more balance now There's this link between physical and usually I can't always walk barefoot because there's loads of spikes and holly trees and things like that So I choose to wear something very minimal because otherwise I'm going to spend my whole life getting thorns out my feet But you imagine what that does on every single level 40 percent more balance 60 percent more mobility stability and strength on your feet imagine what that does on a physical level But also a spiritual level to yourself on the grounding and these things are so so simple Yeah, I mean I'm starting thinking like this is why we practice yoga barefoot. This is why You you can look at reflexology Charts and see like how the foot connects to the overall body And if you like I live in a city, so if I go to walk down the street barefoot, I might be stepping on needles Who knows what I'm going to step on but um, but I can be barefoot in my house Absolutely music on and dance around barefoot You know and and look at animals animals or barefoot I know look at them or they're completely barefoot and you adapt and you feel so much for that and you've got that instant connection So there's so many different tools You know, yes, you can get some amazing grounding mats and grounding tools But you can also just go and find somewhere In nature and just stand there come rain or shine barefoot even if you're not moving around In your house if you do some basic exercises Just barefoot and just feel How much more stable you use and if you feel small stable physically and I've seen this work on every single Body type age group You know disability and everything it's amazing how much more confidence it gives you because if you we all know There's such a link between physical health emotional health spiritual health But when you feel you're getting that strength and control back physically It has such a knock-on effect about how you feel about how you can cope with everything else that lives throwing you And that is why so I always tell even though like in my lineage of yogas is extreme like leg behind the head stuff But I always tell students We are we're never going to ask you to get more flexible, but we are going to ask you to get stronger Yeah, that's getting stronger physically It's something shifts in you emotionally and and mentally and spiritually too when you have that That kind of autonomy and that control over your physical body in a very healthy way But it's funny I was giggling because I have a pair of yoga pants Catherine that are probably 10 years old that have holes in like all the wrong places Yes, I won't throw them away because they're my favorite pants. I know I don't wear them out Totally wear them here to practice here, you know the refrigerator and my dog sees me in these pants They literally have holes in all the wrong places and so many people have said to me aren't you gonna throw those away? I'm like, how dare you these are my favorite pants. I know it is it's a special special connection, isn't it? It really is I did meet this chap out Yesterday when I was wearing mine and it was pouring with rain and it was just absolutely gorgeous And you know, I was looking quite smart the rest of me then you look down at my feet But they're just gorgeous. They're so so comfortable. So I'm keeping them until they literally disintegrate on my feet Pants are going to have to disintegrate before I get As close as chic, you know, it's like but yeah, no and it's it's and I would say too something if you live like I I live in a city, but I'm You know, if I drive up a couple hours north into the Appalachia mountains I could be like in nature And I know one day I'm going up with some friends Monday afternoon just to get into nature and we're going to go stand There's fresh running water and if you stay even the cashew pants talk about this if you can stand barefoot and fresh running running Fresh running water in nature in the mountains wherever you are It will it will change your It'll change your physical body too Because completely that's just an easy if you if you live close like Catherine lives out in the country So she's probably close to body, you know, you could just go we've got some lovely streams near here and everything And it was so interesting you say that because look how often your animals will choose to do that Cat's not so much because they don't need any help. They're already connected But if you get the cows, the horses, the dogs, they love just standing in them in the flowing water Robbie will lay in it. Yeah He'll just lay in the water. That's a heat that he just he lays in it And um, it is so and it just the air feels clean and it just feels, you know This is where we're going that we we won't be able to get cell phone reception You know, it's so it's not even a point to bring your phone You know, you have to be connected if nature is going to force you to connect with it because you're a part of it and um And you you look with you look with nature It's like it's kind of cheesy But like in the autumn and that we call fall here in America The leaves the the trees don't hold the trees don't begrudgingly hold on to their leaves. They let them go Absolutely without fear. They know that even though they don't know for sure They still know and trust that at the spring new leaves will come And not even do they let them go willingly and trust and do it But also by letting and go they're guaranteeing the survival of other plants and everything they're providing those leaves are providing shelter for loads of animals They're putting nutrients back into the soil So if they didn't let go what no longer was serving them It would have such a knock on effect on all other aspects of nature Isn't it that the same as us look at the effect of us not letting go of um, you know coming back to that You know, it's what we were starting about the patients and they're making the decisions from the fear You know, I started off this conversation with with bryce sharing something that I was and as soon as you've shared it You can start the solutions start coming to you straight away. So I hope that everyone Who's watching this has got someone whether it's a tree a dog a stream A person in your life that you can share it with and if you haven't Then this is a safe place for you to share it on our channels and put it there And that you'll get the support from the community here that you need because when when you do share it That's the first stage to letting it go don't you think Yeah, it's like it's not letting it fester because it's like it was like a if you have an infected wound that you don't Allow to heal it will just the infection will just get worse But when you actually let it ooze and let it kind of heal itself And so if you're letting it out and talking about it, that's exactly 100% and I think we're I think I think with patience too we have this Nasty pride that some of us carry that ends up being the downfall of ourselves or we don't want to admit our vulnerabilities We don't want to admit where we where we're feeling afraid and that's coming from the ego And I post something on my twitter a while ago where I said ego to me is a turnoff Yeah, I I respect people more who are humble and who Inmit when they're afraid or when they're wrong or when they they don't know what to do that that to me is The true strength is somebody who is able To to be in that place of of uncertainty and express that That's true strength Having an ego and trying to just hide it that to me is disgusting. That's not true strength. That's fake You know so so and hopefully that's one of the lessons we'll take out of this experience is learning how to be vulnerable And learning that it's okay. You're a human being. You're not a demigod. You're a human being You know you're we're all on this journey as as we say we're all all just walking each other home Like we're all just trying to figure it out. And so it's okay Life would be boring if we never had the ups and downs if we never had the experiences to learn from so And don't let don't let that expectation steal your joy. You can have joy today In this moment Absolutely, you can really choose to have joy and they're not knowing and my final point in it is I what I've also realized today with conversation I was having with someone else is how many times the The lack of patience is driven by external influences So so often when you really start talking about things a lot of people are actually really happy where they are It's the allowing the external expectations to come in and it's those external if but if anyone else in your life Is putting an expectation on you like that that's coming from their point of lack Yep, it really is and they're projecting their Um frustrations and lack of direction on to you because if anyone else is expecting you to be anywhere else than where you are Then, you know, just be cautious of that. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. They're projecting on to you You were right where you and you have to trust that that's again going to like you have to trust that you were right Where you are supposed to be Yeah, absolutely fantastic. Oh, thank you so much your trip sounds amazing. That'll be I know I can't wait for you to teleport over here Definitely because even though we've got so much nature over here in the uk But yours is really really remote because obviously it's so much bigger Whilst when you're in the uk you're actually never that far away from civilization. It might feel like it at times But you're not But hey, who knows how far we really are from you as I know I'm thinking we're probably just a paddle boat boat trip away I'm waiting to find out it will be absolutely hysterical if it was wouldn't it so I did say if it is then just send the sun over again because we're doing now And it's look i'm sitting here in my jump again. I can't show off my suntan. So I'll report over here It's a lot as hell here. So Yeah, exactly exactly Well, thank you so much and thanks so much for everyone who's listening to these chats We hope you enjoy them. I had my lovely cup of herbal tea in my lovely flasker cup And please please do let us and other people know Below, you know, what what works for you? What do you do? How do you recognize it and how do you switch it because there'll be lots of those solutions that we haven't talked about and You just need one. You just need one that works for you. That's all you need So my fun folks. Thanks, bice and we will be back. I think on saturday with jamie Where we will be doing the second of the fifth agreements book and talking through that So that's going to be uh, it will probably linking quite well to this conversation actually so we'll be back then Lots of love everyone. Thanks