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Well, you know what calories in versus calories out That's that is important for fat loss But what we forget is the your metabolism naturally burning more calories is what you're after not the calorie burn while you exercise Your body adapts so fast to that like when the study is done on Cardiovascular activity for example cardio burns a lot of calories per hour in comparison to other forms of exercise and Over time the body becomes efficient part of it because it pairs muscle down and make it more efficient at cardio But the other part of it is your body tries to get better at those activities And you find that it starts to those effects start to negate you start to lose You can't blame your body your body is just trying to maximize whatever it is. You're telling it to do that's right So you have to look at it differently and and to be able to get your desired results You got to be smart about the way you train So are you telling me if this is my first time listening to this podcast? And I'm here and I'm trying to lose 30 to 40 pounds And I'm just getting started on my fitness journey and one of my friends recommended me you guys And you're telling me that I shouldn't do cardio. That's not how I should start to lose body fat Not quite, but I will I'll say this if your goal is to lose for creating the avatar Yeah, if your goal is to lose weight What you want to do is focus on the adaptations that the exercise that you're choosing induces and then what does that mean? What are those adaptations mean? Yeah, how about you simplify that this is my first time listening no problem How nerdy you are no problem So if you if I'm doing resistance training or strength training the primary adaptation is strength and muscle the side Effective that is a faster metabolism Cardiovascular activity since you brought that up the primary adaptation is endurance stamina not strength and what it does it? It tells my body to become more efficient at that activity Therefore I can actually slow my metabolism down and studies will show that when cardio is the only form of exercise in a weight loss Protocol with a calorie restricted diet you tend to see about half of the weight That's lost being muscle the body literally is slowing down its metabolism And that calorie burn that you get from the activity your body actually starts to balance that out and adapt so there are other are there ever examples of Doing cardio in which it can speed my metabolism or is it always? Catabolic and it always will slow down the metabolism. Well, I think okay, so cardio has health benefits So I do want to be clear, right? Yeah, let's take out the health I'm here. I want to lose body fat as fast. I possibly can that is my main focus And so is it is it going to help me in pursuit of that or is it not? You know, I think a little bit of cardio might but the primary form of exercise should be one that speeds up the metabolism Also, you said fat loss not weight loss, right? Right the fastest way to lose weight would be to you know, tie yourself to a treadmill and cut your calories But then you're gonna be losing a lot of muscle along with it But if you want to lose just body fat You want to send a signal to your body that says at least keep this muscle or maybe build a little bit of muscle That's what you get through resistance training And so the reason why I opened with this is that the average person Tends to value exercise and this is not necessarily their fault This is how we've been sold through popular fitness media that when you rank Forms of exercise and the average person wants to lose weight the most valuable ones the one that burns most calories This is what machines will tell you burn this many calories per 30 minutes There's articles that show you this and the reality is that's one of the least important things about it The general masses are so indoctrinated in that way of thinking that it's it's honestly We should be bringing this up like every other podcast just because it's it's still common common thought That's what all of these gym franchises speak to that's what all of the machines that you buy an infomercial speak to That's what your jazzer size product whatever you're buying online They're all banking on the fact that they're trying to make these Exercises hard make you sweat make you feel something and feel like you need to keep moving your body at an incredibly intense You know degree in order for you to get anywhere. Yeah, that's the burn calories approach I just burn burn the calories manually. I'm saying teach your body to burn more calories Automatically right speed up your metabolism and by the way when you when that's your approach burn as many calories as possible Manually with calorie restriction your weight loss does initially happen very quickly Some of it being muscle, but then you'll notice and I'm sure a lot of people watching this have experienced this You plateau because your body adapts it becomes more efficient hit that wall and then your next step is well I guess I got to cut my calories more I guess I got to do more you know cardio and then you can see at the end of the you know At the end of the day what that ends up turning into is this unsustainable approach versus making the cornerstone of your routine something that builds strength and muscle and That results in a overtime faster metabolism for a lot of people so the weight loss might start off slower But it's a bit of a snowball effect later on your leaner and it's easier Yeah, I feel like you know your average person kind of sitting down the biggest gorilla in the room is that you know They're overweight. Yeah, maybe you know that's something that's like, you know the most impending Issue and so the first thing they think of is I just need to get rid of the weight and Not not thinking about building their body and building their body up to create You know something that they could actually have longevity with and strength But also, you know, you could get to the point where the burning the calories part becomes automatic Yeah, and it's sustainable and you know, it's it is important to Because it was offensive. Was that the reason you went? You know Because we're talking about weight loss right now is probably more offensive Yeah, those are both those are interchangeable right the gorilla in the room or the elephant in the room I don't know. I've never heard gorilla in the room. Do I have I think I have. Yeah, there's a girl two to one You're you know, have you guys seen the elephant in the room? Have you guys out in the room by the way? I'm gonna go back to weight loss versus fat loss But have you guys ever seen that video where they're showing how your brain will choose to ignore certain things So you'll effectively be blind to certain things. So there's this video We've all watched it I think where people are throwing a basketball back and forth and then they have a gorilla go through the Yeah, so they say count how many times the basketball's passed So you're really focused on the basketball and then a dude in a gorilla suit walks through and at the very end You're expecting them to tell you, you know, how many times does the ball pass and they say did you see the gorilla? And you're like no what yeah, even though it walks right through your line of sight Is that the same trick as the the bus driver trick? You know that one before like people get on You know, yeah, you're you know, you're the bus driver, right? And let me let's see if you can figure out how many people get on and off the bus And you go through the whole thing of like you go to this stop You pick up five people then the next stop two people get off and seven more people get on and the next stop And you do that and at the very end of it you go who's driving the bus? Well, though you say what color the bus driver's eyes and then people are like, huh yours and they got the math 72 Because they're so focused on that task specifically. Yeah. Yeah, so I think blind it's elephant in the room and then the 800-pound gorilla that's another story Saying yeah has no relationship to the elephant. So it doesn't mean the same thing does not mean the same Yes, read the quote So the 800-pound gorilla is an American English expression for a person or Organization so powerful that it can act without regard to the rights of others or the law. We use that totally wrong. Yeah Yeah, we kind of failed on that one. Well, write that down Adam. You guys were on my side and then you went and fucked it up This is like Adam's on a roll I miss Merge analogies like constantly alright, so you said weight loss I want to I want to make this point real quick if you looked at a picture of a 200 pound six-foot male at 10% body fat and a 200 pound six-foot male at 18% body fat They would weigh exactly the same they would look way different. This is true for a 140-pound female at 19% versus 30% They're way the same but they look radically different and with strength training resistors training you get body composition change Not just weight loss. I did want to make that can you can you simplify a little bit more for this person too That's listening of the the physiology behind why why would our body slow its metabolism down because of doing cardio So in a simple way as you can okay, so it's not just doing cardio It's that's the only way or the primary way that you train in combination with a calorie deficit Your body's always trying to get better at what you're asking it to do right? So if I'm doing lots of steady-state long-distance type cardio long distance running or cycling or swimming I'm asking my body to build lots of endurance and stamina I don't need a lot of strength in fact You need very little strength for endurance type activity and because I'm burning a lot of calories while doing that activity My body is trying to become more efficient at that activity, so I don't need muscle I need endurance and I need to become more efficient. It pairs muscle down doesn't burn the muscle. That's different It just pairs it down to make you a more efficient cardio machine not unlike a AI car That would adapt to your driving habits You know if I drew if I drove my car 400 miles at 35 miles an hour every single day It would adapt to be a very low energy consuming vehicle versus if I took my car to the quarter mile and practice the couple quarter miles every day My car would adapt and become you know very energy even simpler way would be saying that you're teaching your body to need Less calories per day to survive, right? So the pairing down because muscle needs more calories to survive It's expensive to fat does and by you pushing the body by burning lots of calories and consuming very little Of course the initial thing is to lose weight i.e. body fat and probably some muscle But the consequences of that is the body becomes efficient at that and then it slows the metabolism I'm meaning that it doesn't need as many calories as what it needed just two months ago when you were eating twice as much and doing No cardio. Yeah, so like if you look at like the biggest loser We read an article a long time ago. I forgot what it was but the average calories consumed after the show To maintain that weight loss it was something in the neighborhood of like 1600 calories with tons and tons and tons of activities So all these people lost a hundred pounds But now they're in a position where they have to work out so much and eat very little to maintain their bodies And that's an extreme example, but obviously unsustainable Yeah, we want to be get people in a position to where they burn more calories at the end of their fat loss journey And they don't have to work out like crazy to maintain that calorie burn because they've got a faster metabolism Much more sustainable and that's the approach and the opposite is true that the like we're to my point is that you? Lift weights say no cardio and for every pound of muscle that you gain over the course of weeks or months Your body now needs more calories in order to sustain that in in turn speeding the metabolism Yeah, and it's not even just the muscle gain because I know there's someone watching right now There's a study that showed every pound of muscle and they need 15 calories or whatever there's a range of Calorie burn your metabolism will achieve with the same lean body mass that you currently have There's a there's a range of calories and your body can choose to be more or less efficient It's a very complicated process But you could take someone and just because you're telling the body you need strength and muscle and feeding it a certain way Even if they don't gain muscle their metabolism will move more towards the burning more calories If you restrict their calories and do forms of exercise that tell the body We need to become more efficient even if they don't lose any lean body mass within that range They'll move over to another direction and this is why people like Lane Norton for example argues in favor of reverse dieting and all that kind of stuff when people are like Oh, you know five pounds of muscle doesn't burn that more many more calories You know type of argument has has more to do with that range and of course extra muscle does require Speaking of calories metabolism all this gift. Did you see that company? I think it's signals I don't know if I'm saying that cry SIG and OS maybe duck could pull it up for us They just I think they just took on took on 15 million. I think that's what they just did a continual glucose. Yes Yeah, it's supposed to be pretty sophisticated too. It's supposed to like help them predict and tell them what foods they should really Yeah, yeah, maybe duck could pull it up for us. I just saw it in my tech. Yeah, I saw that it was Apparently was also giving diet recommendations, which is interesting because not just like You kind of taking a food item and then kind of watching to see how that affects your blood sugar level But also like based off of that now it could have some recommendations. Yeah, that's that's a that's a big It's a big leap. That's a big plus because the previous ones just told you here's how you're inside here's the data here So what do you guys know? I mean, I we haven't it's been a long time We actually talked up a lot about glucose monitors a couple years back It just there hasn't been a lot of news around them since then I mean, it was I think it was on the front end of kind of cutting-edge stuff in the last decade And then it's kind of been quiet for a while I think a lot of that has to do with that you they had to be Prescribed right so you couldn't because they're invasive right because they're like little tiny needles that go in and they were kind of making Headway in terms of like making that more accessible for your average person and that was sort of like the last time we had Discussed it but which was there's a lot of potential. I think benefit to these in terms of like getting insight Yeah, you you needed a prescription. So if this is available without a prescription, that's a big plus I do I believe so I think that's part of it Maybe Doug you can find out the article that I read I think and I don't know how they're doing that because I because I thought that if You do have anything that's even invasive like that at all that goes into your tiny So I don't know what they what they did to to bypass that But I think that you don't need a prescription to get with this company and that's why it's it's blowing up They're thinking they're gonna be the leaders. Here's the pros and cons in my opinion of these I think fitness and health-minded people will benefit greatly from this. That's right. I think the average person It's not gonna make a dent because I'm a hundred percent. It doesn't address The behaviors that are associated with eating a particular way and that's the real issue It's not that people don't know that they're eating necessarily bad food or they can make better food choices It's the behaviors around them and it's just really hard Because of that and if you don't address the behaviors in the psychological piece You can give someone a diet plan you can tell them all the perfect foods for their body and whatever and They're just it's just not gonna work Well, it's the same reason why the Fitbit didn't solve the obesity problem, right? I mean, I think that was I think it's a tremendous tool very broad stroke that and I really do I agree with you I think and by the way, there's exceptions to the rule right there There's always that that one client or that you had that they just needed that one more piece of Data to bring it all together for them to make sense of oh, that's why I couldn't lose weight Now I get it and then that that's not that so there's always exceptions rule But for the general population the same people that have a hard time writing down and tracking their food or Disciplining themselves to go to the gym every single day or look at their Fitbit to see what the feedback gives you Are the same people that I think are gonna have a hard time with this and this thing's even Uglier and more invasive than like a Fitbit And so I really have a feeling the same people that buy a Fitbit the same people that use the fat secret app Or the my fitness pal are the same people that are gonna get a kick out of something like that It has to be a tool that works on the behavior somehow not just giving you information That's why I think and I'm not this is not definitely not the first choice for me But I think that that Novo Nordisk. That's a pharma company that has that weight loss drug I think that's gonna have a greater impact because you inject yourself once a week and then you just eat less Of course that will be dude anytime you can find a magic pill to help with fat loss or muscle The other stuff requires inputting following rules doing so that's a general population Gold mine it is because you do it and it just makes you eat less You're just not as hungry so it does work on the behavior from that aspect It doesn't get to the root root of the behavior, but it's up It's it's much more like oh, I just get this injection than just eat like I normally do and I end up eating less Do you remember that company? I brought up a long time ago. I wonder how they're doing I forgot the name of it, but it was like I think you like ate it was like a gum or oh, yeah You suck on it and then it made like sugar tastes like yes disgusting or whatever I forgot all about that company. I wonder how they're doing You know what I didn't like about that is that you still have to choose to make food not taste good Now if they could give you like a like a pill and then that pill just works for like a week And then that would work, but I could see people being like I don't want to take that People would still hate that though, you know again, this is like punishing yourself. Yeah, because it's like well I can't I can't enjoy this food You know instead of like really dealing with the fact that you know the underlying issue that's really there Well, hey speaking of enjoying food I wanted to ask Doug because I saw when we were up in Truckee you pulled the new Organified creamer. What'd you think of it? I liked it? I mean it reminds me a bit of the bulletproof coffee That's what I thought. Yeah, so it has that MCT oil taste is a bit of a coconut taste. It's very coconut Does it have MCT? I know I obviously had coconut I can taste that Also, it has MCT in it also. Yeah, so here I'll read the ingredients to you So one serving of this creamer is about 50 calories not bad. It's got coconut milk powder coconut sugar coconut MCT powder coconut water then there's Organic Aquaman, so this is from Marine algae magnesium sea salt aloe vera Basically, you're getting electrolytes and some some phytonutrients phytonutrients and healthy fats Now from sugar to yeah a tiny bit very very little bit. Yeah, you're looking at a total of Three grams of sugar. Oh, so very minimal, but the fats Really help your body absorb the caffeine in a more sustainable kind of sustained way you get kind of more even That's why people like bulletproof. I think so much. Yeah belt longer It kind of takes your energy a little further and also keeps you a little bit more satiated Except bulletproofs like it's like 400 or 500 calories. Yeah, we haven't talked about Bulletproof coffee in a very long time, so I'm curious to like I mean there was a kick I know that everybody went on where they were using trying it and and I feel like there's two very distinct camps here You either talk mad shit about it that it's ridiculous that this whole idea of like oh for fat loss Go ahead and start your day with a 400 cup of coffee That's a great idea and then other people that swear by it and say that it's amazing How do you guys feel about it as a strategy for somebody to you know for overall health or what of our fat loss? I think it tastes good. Okay. Here's why it helps them. Yeah, here's how it helps some people lose weight They drink this big coffee in the morning with butter and coconut oil MCT oil in it And then they don't eat breakfast and lunch and then eat dinner So the weight loss really is the fact that they had 300 or 400 calories all day instead of 800 calories all day Breakfast lunch so they're skipping meals and then eating dinner and then they think it's I found that's a temporary thing Yeah, because the longer you go skipping that breakfast like it has more of a detriment over time For me in terms of like metabolism and everything I've noticed that like you know like again This is just one of those things like if you are pulling out some of your normal habits of like where you're This is where I get a majority of my calories and I'm reducing that right now. You're gonna see benefit to it Yeah, yeah, I think I think when it comes to fasting Some of the best biggest benefits come from doing it not all the time, but long fasts every three or four months That's where you see some pretty profound like a like a 48 72 hour fast You see some really really big well, what about like mental clarity is because one of the things I remember I remember feeling sharper from fasting and then doesn't MCT oil have some benefits when it comes to mental clarity if you're in if You're like a ketogenic state Yeah, if you're in ketosis MCT's get converted really quickly to ketones So you get this energy right away and now I feel clear to when I fast, but I save it for when I need it I don't do it every day. I know I get that I get a I start to lose the effect if I do it all the time But if I'm like, which makes sense body just gets adapted and used to yeah But if I'm like, oh, we got three podcasts and you know, I want to be super sharp Then I'll fast Throughout all of them and then I'll find myself being you know, have you guys tried I think it's Laird Hamilton. He has a version with like turmeric and does like these Oh golden what they call it golden milk or golden? Yeah, it sounds like it'd be gross It I don't know sounds interesting if you had yeah turmeric in latte is not too bad No, well, that's what the Organifi gold juice is right turmeric. Yes. I that now that tastes amazing Yeah, but organifi has some like magic stuff going on. They do They're green juices of me like everything they've made like that's that's why they that company has hit it out the park Yes, because it tastes amazing and it's good for you It's like just they figured it out. You normally get either or it's either you're all health and you taste like you're very healthy Or you taste amazing and you're just not very healthy. Yeah, you ever look at like protein bars of the gas station Yeah, you look at the macro. You mean a sneakers bar with 10 grams of protein in it That's literally how I'll never forget as a young trainer when that like light bulb finally went off for me I remember being at it was actually at a gas tour bar, right? Yeah, and I and I remember looking at the sugar content the total calories everything the fat all that it was like And I had like a Snickers bar and it's like literally This is just a Snickers bar with 10 grams of protein which even the Snickers bar I think has two or three. So I'm getting like seven more grams of protein with my show some weight in there You know quote-unquote healthy protein bar. It's funny I had this conversation with my cousins yesterday where where he was like, oh the future is Insect powder because it's so easy to make insects and it's got protein saying that for a long and I'm like listen buddy I said, here's the problem The problem is people don't value food for its nutrition or its health people largely value food mostly for how much It's how good it tastes. Yeah, and if you look at any food category breakfast lunch dinner holiday foods Health foods look at health foods the top-selling health foods are not the healthiest. They're the ones that taste the best Yeah, that's just what sells the most. Yeah, that's what I mean You know if your company like Organifi you've you've done both. That's no wonder that company. Yeah, they figured they've figured That out and hey, did you guys see? You guys know like I've you guys seen like all the competitors with the whole smart glasses and stuff Are you paying attention to that at all? You know at the Google glasses did their thing and it kind of failed and then who else did another there's another company That did it and I just saw recently Ray-Ban Ray-Ban has smart glasses now. You see now What are they showing the lens with smart about okay tech company? So it's got it's got built-in like head You can listen to music. Mm-hmm. It's got cameras on it So you can take videos and and take photos and it's all but So of all the glasses smart glasses that I've seen these Ray-Bans look the coolest but I was watching this whole like someone did you know one of those unpacking on YouTube and I watched like them break it all down and It's the cameras not as good as the one on your phone The speakers in it aren't as good as your AirPods or our headphones. It doesn't do anything else Special the video time is is short and limited on it the quality of the video and is is is not comparable to your It's just version one right so it's it's trying to combine all those and one and I think that's the selling point is that it's It's just the beginning of where they're gonna try and take this You know reminds me of remind me of the the oh, yeah, they look good Yeah, they did a good job of looking like it's hard to tell. I mean you because I told you guys you can tell there's cameras there Yeah, but they they look pretty close to the didn't snapchat have some snapchat did them for a while and they fail We had a pair. Yeah, so this is a this is actually a direct partnership by the way with Facebook So these are Facebook Ray-Bans Wow, so it's connected to your your Facebook stories So you could be not only is Facebook listening to me on my phone They're gonna watch everything so okay, so you have your app open and you have your glasses on so basically whatever you're capturing Can you look at it real time on your phone like what you're like looking at with your video? I believe you can do that I know for sure what you can do is take photos or video and then Automatically uploads to your Facebook so it reminds me of when phones first had cameras on them The camera market was still good because the cameras on phones sucked But eventually cameras on phones got as good as the ones that you could buy separately and then the camera market just collapsed Eventually these glasses are gonna have all these features that are gonna be excellent And it's gonna create a new market. What do you think it'll be? What will it make obsolete because it's not gonna out compete at least I don't think it's what I envision What I watched a free guy, right? It was a great movie and in the in that movie He's in the video game. He puts on his glasses and all of a sudden things appear augmented reality Something like that like I put the glasses on and as I'm walking and I walk by this, you know This Mexican food place and their Yelp reviews pop up right in front of me And if I want I can look more or I can order from from right from my glasses or as I'm walking if there's a feature turned on It's got facial recognition It'll pull up someone's Instagram right above their head as I look at them or you know I'm looking at a product and I could see the reviews or I could look it up instantly So it's all in front of me whenever I want and I can access all that's how I picture it in the future Yeah, you know, it'd be a massive hit. You know how big Pokemon go was, you know I could see that easily of like having some little augmented reality dinosaur thing You know off that they have to go find or whatever But yeah, I mean, I'm sure like again This will be kind of weird because I don't know what the rules are with that marketing to kids and all that kind of stuff But I can see a lot of potential. Well, this is what I brought up the other day of when I asked you guys What do you think is going to take off first AR VR because you have a split with some of the big monsters, right? I think you are I think AR is like first only because I think it's it's not Doesn't take as much of commitment. Yeah, because here's the thing with VR. You got to be Sitting down you got to have this thing covering you can't just do normal things You have to be committed to sitting down and having this is like your entertainment Think about all the apps that they can make with AR glasses, right? Imagine health apps So I put all my glasses it does a bunch of stuff and then when I look at food it calculates the macros It recognizes chicken breasts three ounces, you know, estimated calories estimated macros enter this in yes Beep and I am trip that would make sense Imagine I'm at a gym and I look at a machine and it shows me how to use that machine and what body parts You know imagine I mean imagine going to a nightclub and you're looking around it picks up people's faces or you're driving and you can put Your directions on right away in your field of view through your glasses like the app creators are gonna go crazy with either way I mean it has to look cool because like yeah, if it doesn't look cool the consumers are not gonna get behind it So I could see potential Mainly because like Ray-Ban's already kind of a cool brand and they make great-looking frames much like you know Felix gray, which I actually just bought so you remember we talked about the amber lens version of it Yeah, so I got them mainly for the screen initially for my kids Because they're on iPads are on laptops all that kind of stuff all the time they get the eye strain They act like little monsters after they're done and that's helped But you know the getting them to the bed to bed part like I don't I don't do what you do with like You know lighting candles and all that which I could get better at that But I've I just bought those I'm hoping that'll be sort of the next Step in that direction to get them to calm down a little bit Yeah, your kids are on they're crazy. They're on fire Do you so have you noticed that they sleep easier if they wear them at night before bed? Yeah, and I think that the amber I'm anticipating that's gonna be even better because you know it sort of helps kind of get you know the circadian rhythm So I can't I if I watch if I'm gonna watch a movie right before bed and I put those on I Give myself about thirty five forty minutes because then I can't stay awake So if I'm gonna watch a full movie, I can't put them on cuz about thirty five minutes in I find myself Yeah, the amber ones. Yeah, they're really really strong. I'll use the daytime one exactly watching it watching a movie like that Now the part I have I'm curious as a dad who doesn't have kids as old as your guys kids is Do you feel though like you're the dad who's like trying to force your kids to do that? Or do you feel like they're accepting it and they like it like what does it feel like trying to wear the glasses? Yes, I'm trying to make it more almost like it's a uniform like it's sort of something that like if you're gonna spend time on here You got to you know, put on the glasses. Yeah, I think they do. Yeah, and I you know what I'll be honest I haven't been super good about it recently and they won't if I don't say something So I think it's like one of those like Justin's a better father No, I think I think it's like you you know, it's like one of those things like oh you want to go electronics You have to wear this. I don't think they'll do it on their own although you hope that they notice a difference Oh, you definitely have to be involved to make sure you establish the ritual I was just wondering if they like maybe they thought they're cool because they are cool They're not they're not dorky like the old, you know blue-blocking glasses So different things are cool these days well that so that this is why I'm asking because I'm wondering like Because you guys are bringing it is probably why it's not cool If like a friend or somebody else introduced it to him Maybe it would be cool or if they saw like somebody maybe the moves to get all their friends Yeah, or like, you know, maybe Phil's great needs to get some of these young YouTube influencer people to be wearing them And so then maybe that's when the kids percent dude all those kids that are on YouTube like talking about video games Yes, I should all be wearing. I feel like if they were if they were rocking it Then then the kids would be like oh this is cool and they can make it kind of trendy But I think my dad telling me like you need to put these on before you get on the computer because it's gonna strain Your eyes. It's like you felt like oh, I can't shoot a beefy gun because I'm gonna shoot my eye out That's what you feel like, you know, so, you know, this reminds me of like maybe you guys remember You know the movie 21 Jump Street the remake that was like, I don't know what hold it is now Maybe 10 years ago Channing Tatum. Yeah, hilarious, right? I watched that the other day It's so true right because they go back to high school and what used to be cool. Is it cool anymore? Yeah, I was down. He had his like cool muscle car How many miles per gallon is that he's like brag is like, I don't know six and they're like God That's terrible for the environment. Yeah His backpack on one strap If anybody steps you punch him right away and then there's like that this kid and he punches him They're like you punched the gay black kid in the school I feel like I never even told you guys but he filmed a Movie like my old house that I sold like right down the street recently during the pandemic. I didn't know that Yeah, I think it's called like dog something not dog. Was Courtney there. She just you watch. Yeah, I told her about it Well, he's not here now, okay What was that new one that he did? Yeah, I don't know. I'll have to look it up But uh, it was it was so random because there was like all these trailers and I was driving by and at one point They had like somebody out there like directing traffic. I'm like, I'm just trying to get to my house This is one, you know small road. That's like goes to a dead end And so they picked this one random Like off-road that goes up through all this like ivy and it's like sort of off adjacent to that road and Anyways, I have no idea like what they shot there I'm really curious though because like he was there and then some other like famous person I'm like, what the hell are they doing like in my backyard? Yeah, it was weird. Ah, cool. I know you're a big fan, too I am I oh, it's just awesome of his movies called dog. Yeah dog in 2022 Wow, good job, Doug. Yeah Looking forward to that dude speaking of like like famous people were okay What the hell did you send yesterday with that cover band? Oh the bro. Okay, so I forget the name of the first of all. I didn't realize it was fully filmed Oh, yeah, so it's the so like a dm. I love I love listeners. There was like a rage It's a race against the machine right or the rage against machine is was the concert It was the opener. So whoever the band is uh, I have to look up the name of the band I'm gonna find it right now. I thought it was brass against the machine. You might be right if I'm correct Not brass against the machine. Yeah, because like they're brass instruments They're they're they're brass. It was rage against the machine they open up for and they're and they're I think they're a cover band They're a cover band. Yeah, okay. It is it's brass against. Oh just brass against. Yeah, so I'm reading it. It's called brass against And I mean they look like a badass group or whatever But the vocalist the girl that sings in it. Yeah, Sophia Eurysta Uh Holder pen look at it's all over the place. He's trending right now one day go two hours ago literally Literally a fan. You're in Nista a friend a fan goes on stage And apparently she'd been complaining to the audience how she has to go to the bathroom So this guy's like, I don't know how it went out went down, but the dude laid down The whole thing's filmed. She stood over him. Yeah, pull their pants down squatted And p and I mean it wasn't a little bit of pd. You know what I feel like She peed a lot on his face. Yeah all over. No, it was like legit legit, right? So I think Now the dude didn't look like he was upset I think there's this movement that's been going on for a while now of like, you know badass like famous chicks Going back in history and looking at the most ridiculous things that men did and trying to one up Did a guy do that? No, not that specifically that but you've had like Ozzy Osbourne bite the head off of a bat And you've had guys get away with peeing on a chick and on stage you get arrested. Yeah, that's so this is one upping it That's my point. My point is about Marilyn is like, you know, and what's her? What's her name who came out with the wap song? It's like it's not like men haven't done songs that are, you know Me so horny or so crazy over the top in the past I feel like there's this movement now from from women in powerful positions or fame to go like, all right What did some of the dudes doing this? I'm gonna fucking yeah, I'm gonna pee on you I'm gonna one up that I couldn't believe I thought like, you know, because they're oh it was filmed by a fan I thought you kind of see it. No. No, it's like full on. Yeah, and it's not like drip drip. It's like Splash and it's going. Yeah, and the dude they had a mop, you know, like after she and the dude underneath That's like, oh, isn't that he got a whole uh, that's a whole porn category, right golden showers. And then they call that That's that's that's that's one of those things that um, Sao was saying he's really into Oh, that was an off-air conversation Hey, hey changing directions, I have something to pull this up. No, this is better for your search engine here. Uh, pull up Yeah, uh universal basic mobility I want you to read the article so the guy because I actually want to have a discussion I know these guys aren't up government's kind of universal basic income But it's exactly like that. The government's going to provide mobility exercises for everybody. No. Yeah, you're close What? Um, it's well, it's not around exercise around movement. It's around transportation So they are trying it's already being passed right now in oakland and they're already they're gonna subsidize bus rides e-bikes and scooters already happening So it's already happening So they're there and and it's very interesting because it goes online with our talk about how we talked about how Cars are going to kind of go away and there's going to be this You know, no one owns anymore. You just have a it incentivizes you to go public transportation instead of like Like taxing you for your carbon emissions, whatever like no, you know what? This is even better because it's e-bikes and scooters. So here's okay. So if you look at government funded things Oftentimes you'll find that they're just not efficient. They cost more than they return and they're not very effective for example in california, you have this This this what do they call it the the rail to nowhere. We've been building this high speed rail forever It's still happening. It's costs us I don't know how many hundreds of millions or maybe billions of dollars like a decade. I thought it's already done and there's people That don't use it It I think they halted it and but it's it's it's a complete waste of money a boondoggle We're it's obviously to special interest groups. Nobody cares about it. I thought that was part of the green plant But yeah, it's and it's always someone one of their friends that right anyway, but in some countries Public transportation is extremely valuable. It's part of the culture though Not just part of the culture It really does save money makes a big difference and it's very valuable new york city For example in some cases makes it does it's very good But I think that I think that was how why this failed was because it's it's that that way of transportation It has is ingrained in the culture for so long that it's just the way people do things And it's not that it wouldn't be it's not that it wouldn't be beneficial right now I mean if there was a train that went underground that took me from my house to here It would be way better than sitting in traffic like I have to But because we are we are so accustomed here to driving all over the place. We don't have the infrastructure We're driving culture. It would cost so much money But I don't this is interesting to pay to subsidize private transportation like e bikes Scooters, I mean who knows maybe they'll throw uber in there. No it is this so this it doesn't show it This one I this jug just pulled up the first thing But I read in our article that's you know like basic income, uh, you know the ubi, uh, ubi, right Except for for all things transportation and then it would you you would get like a but a 500 dollar You know card every month and you it works on all of those things to use for transportation Now I'm going to take you to step further fine tax papers. So it's 300 dollars On a prepaid debit card Not all that uh, who apply will be approved up to 500 participants will be randomly selected. Oh, they're testing it Yeah, this is the oakland one. So oakland's already there's oakland and some other places are already currently testing this But it's very interesting to me because it's already moving in this direction that we talked about where Maybe people are not going to own cars anymore. And when you do the math on I mean when you talk about car insurance gas, uh, the car payment Maintenance on the car you average I've seen this before and they averaged out per year on average what the the average american spends and then they look at like what if that same person was provided You know Unlimited access to all this or that and they actually said that they could save already We have the ability to save money by doing now here's where I would I would take it a step further You're going to give someone a gift like a debit card for 300 dollars for transportation There's a bit of bureaucracy there to check things to administer this in other words They're getting 300 dollars, but it probably cost taxpayer payers. I don't know 400 or 500 dollars Why don't you just give people if you want to give people money? Just give them money and then use it however you want you want to spend on transportation. That's cool Yeah, but they care that's cool then the initiative that they're trying to accomplish I know what they're trying to it's not gonna work like you give you give a bunch if you give 500 You have 500 people in oakland san jose or any place for that matter Uh, a 300 dollar 300 dollar bill versus 300 dollars that they have to use on this these these They're not going to use it for that. I know it's all it's all controlled. Yeah, but it's not but exactly It's not about this isn't this isn't like welfare where it's trying to help somebody who needs help with money This is about encouraging people to use Transportation that is going to benefit the environment and so they have to keep it like oh this is for green Because I think you have to qualify for it. Yeah, that's what I think I think it's that's just right now What you just read was Doug pulled up oakland's they're testing it just like they just did the ubi with oakland You had to qualify to be even the test group to do it. Yeah It's they're using the people to prove if it's a valuable thing or not I just think if I think if people knew how how what percentage of each dollar that is that we taken taxes that's supposed to go to Programs to help people so this and welfare and housing and daycare and education subsidies all stuff If you could see how much of that dollar went to the bureaucracy That all the government people and there's a much easier free market answer to this I mean, it's a similar example that would be like the um the the golden pass that you have for california and uh Like all the ski resorts so I can buy a pass It's like $1,200 and I can use it at every single right at every single resort in in california And I think colorado Nevada something like that right so you would just do something where instead of you know Subsidizing it making it a government program like allow people to charge a card with their own money Let me put $300 a card and then now I can use this for all these different modes of transportation Just to simplify it so then it's like it makes it very easy for me to go I can get a car I can get a car payment and insurance which would cost me on average of Plus gas all for tax benefit. Yes $600 or so a month That's right And then off and also give some sort of a tax perk to do this There's there's your free market answer to allow people to put their own money and charge it in that card Give them some sort of a tax kickback. You don't need anybody to oversee it and manage it Yeah, but even even if you even if people didn't have the money And let's say we want to help them with some kind of social safety net just give people cash Just give them money do what you want with it. You're gonna make some bad decisions fine I mean to me that That just it'll save us before the horse in my opinion Like the first thing to do is to prove that it makes sense the average person would want to do it Then when we see that people start to adopt it. They like it. They start using it Then you go. Hey, here's a way to help people out that have lower income I don't think so. I think we're already spending this much money on all these programs Let's let's just say per person. It's $10,000, which I don't know what the number is But I'm just gonna use that number We're already spending that money and we know that of that $10,000 $3,000 goes to the bureaucracy So we're gonna say look here's what we're gonna do Bro, I love I love your free market libertarian mind But you you fail to realize how many people need to be told what to do. It's fucking as much as I I know that's the attitude of the people that want to control other people. I don't think so I think they'll be better off You cut the bureaucracy give the people the money sure a percentage of them Well, I don't disagree that a percentage of those people will but the truth is there's a good percentage people that want to be led Bro, I don't want to be told no no no If you you look at the the use of some of these things people are trait They're selling their food stamps Just for cash making less money than it's worth because they're trying to do other things There's a whole black market for a lot of the stuff. I don't I see it being so much more valuable You know, you don't reminds me of Peter Schiff. I think that's his name Did you see his tweet that he did on taxing billionaires? I thought was absolutely brilliant Oh, I did see that that was what he said that was really said instead of taxing billionaires on their more on their income What you should do is is add Luxury taxes to things that they buy right so make add a tax to yachts and jets And really expensive so that when billionaires go to spend money on themselves Then they're spending a lot and I know that was brilliant, too But doesn't luxury tax already exist. Is that already a thing? Yeah, but you can hike it up Instead of taxing them on their income which could go to innovation investment Their companies creations of jobs. Yeah Tax them when they go to spend it on on luxury ship that makes so much more No, I agree you go buy a yacht or a Ferrari paying an extra Three to five percent and taxes on that for that person It's not probably going to change their mind whether they buy or not And that's that amount of money could go into helping the overall economy But I think that just making the taxing their income which In turn hurts the way they grow and scale their business is a silly way to do it So I thought that was brilliant. Yeah, I think that's so brilliant And along those lines when we're giving people money But then so much of it is wasted for all this bureaucracy. So because we had to tell people how to use it No, I'm sorry. It's only for childcare. I know you need, you know, I know you need more education But sorry, this is only for childcare. You got to apply over here for that other subsidy or whatever and Such a mess just give people cash. I mean, I struggle back and forth on On that on that right? So I just I don't think anything's perfect by the way Like I you know, definitely I think we all agree on that and I want to believe that in this complete free market that it would it would work the way we're saying but Well, you realize it's not a free market. It's it's it's still a government funded, you know It's you're still getting taxed to pay for the social safety net So it's not full free market, but it has it has the components of the market in the sense that Nobody spends their money better than the people who who have risk losing it And you give people freedom some people are going to spend it on stupid shit. That's true But some people I mean it's it's not that different than the signals Conversation we were just having the truth is who will it really help the people that are already probably Budging their money and good with it and making good choices Who it's not going to help the people that are taking advantage of welfare and doing that bullshit anyways It's still not going to help. You're right But who's getting hurt right now the people who want to Move ahead, but they only got money for shit. They're not going to use I mean your your idea and theory is that you You're just simplifying it So there's less simplifying it less government officials and save way more money our tax dollars go straight theoretically it does Yeah, and so I think that's and it just likes school choice Like I think if people could take their public school money and then choose the school They want their kid to go in instead of being stuck in the shitty school that's in their crappy neighborhood Like my god, well, I've always I've always thought we school should be competitive if schools are Competitive that I you would see there, but you yeah, you would see this rise in in competition for sure Oh, yeah, I mean I can imagine a single parent was in this neighborhood and like man That school's terrible that I that I forced to go to My kid's getting state money to go there. Why can't I just pick another public school? I'm going to pick that nicer one over there and then you know the good ones grown the shitty ones shrink I think it's you know, super valuable Did you guys also see all the the companies that are starting to break up right now? J&J is breaking up. Yeah general electric is starting to divide up into Johnson and Johnson. Mm-hmm. So like so, you know, Johnson. Johnson's like, you know q-tips and Listerine or whatever like mountain heat for all kinds of things. So well and part of their So it's like you're gonna have a like good goods goods and services type of business and then you'll have pharmaceutical Yeah, you know so they can separate And supposedly it's a it's a smart strategy to get more money and more backing because there's certain people That probably invest in J&J that they invest in J&J because of what they're doing with drugs And there's other people that like, oh man, they crush it on the retail side And so what it'll end up doing is it'll track more money That's more specifically allocated towards where you see them doing the work that you want to see so supposedly and general electric Who I saw like two other big companies happen several companies are doing it right now You know, it's really weird. So, um, you know, I've been listening to that podcast He referred me to all in I want to give him a shout out great podcast By the way, if anybody knows a host let us know we'd love to meet and talk with them and try to get a hold of them An exceptional podcast, but they and they're really really smart when it comes to investments and money in the markets Super super high level very very entertaining And they made a really good point They said basically you could have thrown your money at anything over the last 10 years And you would have made money and they're like art Baseball cards it's been a really stock market real estate and they're all like it's kind of bubbly Everything's kind of bubbly and I was like that's true. I can't think of a single General investment you would have done in the last 10 15 years that would have made money This is what scares me about the the crypto run right now It's so crazy for me to even to even hear myself speak differently about crypto When we first started talking about crypto of all of us I was the most pro and now I feel like I've shifted the other direction and it's because of how many people It's purely on speculation You are buying that cryptocurrency Speculating that somebody else is going to pay you more on it Is not it's that on any anything else it does not provide any more value to your life or potentially someone else You're and it reminds me of the ghost towns in china You literally are buying property speculating on that someone else will think it's just as valuable or more valuable in a year or five Years from now and you're banking on all that it has no it's not functional. You can't use it for anything It's not even shelter. I feel like the same thing with this crypto. It's like we have no idea Okay, what what crypto is for sure going to be the one that most people accept or what companies are still going to continue and go And so you're you're betting on some news and some hype that you hear and you're really Crossing your fingers that hey, hopefully it'll it'll sheba in the next two months And I can become a millionaire too, but it's like there's not because of the technology is brilliant Not because the company is doing something revolutionary or new. It's purely off of speculation It's those those rare stories, right? Oh, I know somebody that made 100 million dollars and you know, it's it's it's known people But I haven't known when they actually Converted that to yeah, I realized it. Yes. Have you like because I know I've heard that quite a bit But I have not heard people Being able to convert that to cash and then be able to take that out by achieving and then being like i'm done I'm done with you have to have a buyer, right? Bitcoin is not as easy as they think people. Bitcoin is pretty liquid, right? There's typically buyers for bitcoin, but some of these other ones you might be Bitcoin because it's one of the foundational ones. Yeah, so you might be stuck, right? You might have even again even on that It's still speculation. I mean, I think it you are it has the obviously the Most likely to be accepted. Yeah If we go full on cryptocurrency and even if we don't go full on it's most likely to be the one that people and people are Excuse me. There's please lenders are taking it. There's definitely people. There's a lot of drug dealers that are using it So it's it's being used. There's always a market for you. Yeah 100. It's being used. So i'm not denying that but Buying it the way it's going right now is it's purely speculative It's you are banking that someone is going to give you more money for it in six six months You know, what's funny, too, is the you look brilliant right now Like you said, I know and they have this like they have this army of like fervorous Crypto maniacs, especially on social media and on the internet I guarantee you joy shawls for all my I I know when he did it. That's what I know I guarantee you in the comments of this. Oh, i'm gonna piss somebody off. There's gonna be so many Oh, you don't even know crypto is Double bank with crypto. I just I mean whatever more power and i'm not hating I mean, I hope you I hope you make millions of dollars and I hope it's you've done well doing it and more power to you I just I prefer an asset that's actually something that does something producing income for you. Yeah, something that's doing something Yeah, you can take that same amount of money and put it into something You put it into companies that are paying dividends or that's growing and scaling and has a product and you can watch it get better Or you can put it in real estate where you can rent the property out cash flowing it It's an actual real asset. This is not it's not a hard asset It's it's all speculative so and a lot of greed plays into it because you're like, I don't want to sell Even though I made 300 i don't want to sell because what if it keeps going up or whatever exactly I would say, you know, I'm not a financial advisor But the way I would look at is I would take that money out real cool. Okay. I made some money now Let me put it in some real assets historically. He's got some stability right well speaking of that Justin, did you see I know salsaw because he sent it over the fanny may freddy mac extending out The loans to the government. Oh, yes government back loans going up to a million a million dollars now pumping it up Oh my god, dude Well, you know what this they had to do this if if if if So one of the things one of the things that a lot of people said like You know, what was going to happen with this real estate the people that thought it was going to bubble I was going to burst any day now was like at one point these houses are going to go beyond what people can reach That they can get loans for that they can afford the down payments But they just boosted this another 200 000 plus on average So they can actually back these and people get these loans So and just get guess what I don't think we're going to see ever again Like negam loans, but don't be surprised we start seeing more government programs to encourage people to watch us Like a lot of 40 year loans start coming out Watch watch watch them come out with things to encourage people to get tied up in a loan to get tied up into a mortgage for the rest of their lives Just getting inflation is good. Yeah, right. What'd you say? It's a good thing. The inflation is good That's what that's what's seen in some of the media saying shut your mouth You know what the the problem is is that you don't want to be the politician Yeah, that stuff says great stops the gravy. Yeah. Hey everybody. We're gonna feel some pain, you know, I gotta raise interest rates Sorry, things are going crazy. Nobody wants that bubble to burst on their watch Nobody wants to do that and so they're just gonna pump it up until there's a calamity, you know Because nobody wants to be remembered in the 1970s the way they stopped inflation was a rate They jacked up Interest rates which caused the recession for a couple years and then there was a boom right because things got Cleaned out, you know the problem by the way with raising interest rates is we have so much debt That if we raise interest rates to control inflation, we won't be able to service the debt We are literally we're beyond repair there, bro. We are stuck, which is why you should buy crypto The average person has to understand is the people that are making these decisions don't give a fuck about you They they they wrap it up and it's like putting pig on a lipstick or lipstick on a pig They can you think that this is or a gorilla. Yeah It making you think that they're trying to help you out and all these programs No, they're helping themselves. Yeah, they all stock in lots of different companies. They all have real estate And so they don't care the price of milk or gas or things that are they going up a dollar four dollars What does it matter to them? If you have millions of dollars in assets like companies and like real estate They don't give a shit So that you guys got to be careful all the people that are voting for this stuff to go through man It's going to get really weird and we just did another One trillion got passed yesterday. 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That's mind pump 1 0 with no space for 10 off your first order All right, here comes the rest of the show First question is from la flinsta How much more progress can be made with four gym sessions per week versus three full body workouts a week Okay, so more is not always better What the right dose is what's going to be best for you and the right dose is dependent on your own individual Context and your body and your training experience Most average people will get best results with about three full body workouts a week If you're pretty consistent Uh, you've been working out for a little while That fourth day, I think you could throw in mobility or some trigger sessions You'd be fine or maybe do an upper lower split, but Honestly, more is not always better. Sometimes it is but oftentimes it's not you can get a lot done with three days a week I'm going to go further and say most times. It's not it's actually very Rare that I meet a client that um Four days a week of them in the gym is going to be better for them than doing a three day week full body routine Other than the only other exception that I feel is the the people that have already built A consistent routine of like, oh, this is my one hour every single day I go to the gym or I exercise and so in that case I would still structure them a three day a week strength training full body type of routine And then I would encourage mobility and yoga and walks on the other days and say, okay Still go to the gym. So, you know, you can go to the gym four or five six seven days a week And it'd be extremely beneficial But a four day uh split type of routine versus a three day full body I have found in my experience that more people have benefited from the three day than the four day a week Now there are exceptions to the rule. Of course, I've and when I'm coaching competitors Yeah, many of them are training in the gym But we're talking about high level athletes that are getting on stage and competing have been training for a long time The general population Most of them do much better here. Well and two like if you keep it within that three day structure Uh, you can ramp up intense and you can mess with the different acute variables within that framework which also To I think people just like just forget all about the recovery process Like that's a huge part of your success in terms of being able to Adequately recover and then adapt and then you know gain muscle all that is a vital part of the process So uh to have that structure It's just it's a nice balanced structure that three day a week schedule adding another one I mean, yeah, you could kind of like Change your focus a bit in the gym or you know, if you added like six days a week But you'd have to make sure that the majority of of the hard foundational type workouts were You know adequately spaced out. Yeah, you know, I Along those lines. I think it's great to be active every single day I think it's great to do something every single day But when we're talking about structured You know resistance training, uh, you know, which is geared towards building strength building muscle There's a certain level of intensity, right? three days a week is Ideal for most people now again, you can be active all those other days You could do things like trigger sessions or mobility work or walking or if you like if you're into sport You could do the sport type activity But you know more than three days a week of actual resistance training I think is should be reserved for people who are really advanced Who've got great recovery And if that's you if you've been working out for a year or two consistently And you want to add a fourth day of real, you know traditional resistance training I think that's totally fine But you're not going to get you're not at some point there's diminishing returns at some point You'll add an extra day and you'll get a little bit of benefit. You add extra day and you start to get negative benefit I mean when Doug hired me He worked he did two Full body workouts a week for I think two years Before he even moved to a third day and then he did that for like a couple years before moving on to more Well, I'm glad you brought him up because he wasn't a a beginner lifter either He wasn't and because I was just going to say after you said that about reserve for advance I'd say I'd proceed with caution even if you're advanced. This was one of the most pivotal moments in my training career I'd already been training for almost a decade before this came together for me I was six days seven day a week and I remember dropping down a three it blew my mind I was in the gym half as much lifting weights and my body was progressing faster than it ever had in the previous five to seven years So it more is just not more you just you think that the more you hammer the weights and you hit it the better your results are Going to be it's just not true and I would say more often than not it isn't so I always start with less Start with less see how much you can accomplish with that and then build upon that Next question is from fb. Salas. Is there a huge difference between a regular deadlift and a hex bar deadlift? What's the difference and am I missing out on anything beneficial by not doing the hex bar? There's there's definitely a difference. I would even maybe call them different exercises Yeah, both of them are called deadlifts Now a hex bar deadlift. I think or trap bar deadlift. I think is a great way to start deadlifting It's easier to do it places less potential strain on the low back I would have a lot of clients start with the trap bar deadlift for athletics sometimes It's more valuable because it's more functional for certain types of sports But as far as like working the body the same A trap bar deadlift you're going to get more of that anterior chain. You're going to get more quad Less of the posterior chain, you know what a bar is in front of you the weights in front of you that does change the exercise Quite a bit. Do I think they're interchangeable? Maybe I mean I've gone through periods where I've just trained traditional deadlifts for so long that I feel like I need a break Then I switch to the trap bar and then I go back to my normal straight bar and I feel better But I don't necessarily think that they're always interchangeable. I think they're very different in the field Well, I think And this person's asking right they deadlift already and they're asking are they missing out on anything by not doing the Hex bar. I think if you're conventionally deadlifting You are checking enough of the boxes that missing out on the hex bar. You're not missing out on a ton I think if you only hex bar deadlifted and you never conventional deadlift, you're missing there's you're missing more by not conventional deadlifting That's how now that all that being said Um, I always think there's value in different movements a different exercise It's a different exercise and it's got different applications to it and it has value for multiple reasons Scaling back sometimes more athletic performance. You can do explosive things with it a little bit better easier I love a hex bar deadlift for teaching a client sometimes clients Can't get into a conventional deadlift position And so a hex bar is a great place Just to regress them and start them off before you progress them to a conventional But as a lifter who is already conventionally deadlifting I don't think you're missing out on a ton not by hex bar deadlifting Yeah, I think too like in terms of your point of it being two different exercises. I look at it Uh, the you know conventional deadlift is being more hip hinge, right and it versus like It to me it feels more of the the hex bar Deadlifts is more of a squat. They're squatting with weight in your hands. It's basically squatting just from yeah from a different loading perspective, uh, which You know, it helps to kind of more evenly distribute and maybe it does, you know distribute a bit more on the anterior chain versus the post here, but uh, at least it's like a little more evenly Distributed that load versus like the deadlift really forces you to you know, have everything In good communication posteriorly and nothing really focuses like exclusively on the posterior chain like a deadlift So I agree to those points of it being probably like if you're not including conventional deadlifts You might not be receiving the amount of benefits you would Otherwise, yeah, I and you can lift a lot more with the trap bar. That's for sure I can lift about if I recall about 70 pounds more So whatever my max is in a traditional deadlift I could typically do 60 to 70 more pounds On a trap bar because I get more quad But in terms of technique and being able to teach this to like young athletes So I prefer the trap bar I do too You know mainly because of just that risk reward and just like the amount of time it takes to really get their mechanics and and not, you know establish so You could still get the benefit there Otherwise, but you can't explode and you're not going to do explosive deadlifts with a straight bar But you can do explosive trap bar deadlifts you could jump with a trap bar Definitely try doing that with a barbell in front of you Definitely you can do farmer carries with the with the trap bar. I think more effectively too Next question is from grant satyrsthwaite If isometrics don't build muscle, what is their utility in training who said they don't build muscle? I know Who said that let's fix that first. Yeah isometrics build muscle all for Muscle contraction contribute to muscle growth now some more than others But that doesn't mean you only should focus on one because the others have no value They all have value, but here's the value of isometrics. First of all, they do build muscle Yeah, there's many studies that prove that yeah, you will build muscle with isometrics Not to the extent you will with like full range of motion training But one of the benefits of isometrics is I can focus on a specific Range of motion if I'm weak at the bottom of a squat I can really focus on that bottom position of the squat if I really want to connect to a muscle isometrics Really are effective at allowing me to connect to specific muscles It's also not as damaging like I can go high intensity isometrics And it's not going to require the same recovery that you know traditional kind of resistance training is going to do So At isometric, here's the deal everybody's always asking what can I add to my routine? To make it more effective now so long as you don't over train Isometrics is usually one of the best answers You can add isometrics almost any routine You'll take this much more recovery, but you'll get this much more in return So yeah in the irony It's like it it spans all the way from the very very beginner to the advance There's benefits all the way across the board and it's it's kind of funny that they said you don't build any muscle when In fact any muscle contraction, whether it's like eccentric concentric or isometric either one of those it's gonna You know actually actively stimulate the muscle in order to produce You know some kind of an output So you know it's going to stimulate the it's going to affect the muscle which in fact if you do them You know enough times it's going to help them grow and develop Uh as well, but yeah isometrics. I mean, I think it's just because it's just not as popular not as familiar It's not a sexy You know people don't like to focus on that portion You know of contraction very often, but there's so many other benefits to it that Get you really connected to the central nervous system It actually you know acts as a way to alleviate pain almost Instantaneously, which is a very amazing feature of it And then building muscle of course is another you know huge part of that Well, I think it's because in the moment or right initially If you compare it directly to the eccentric or concentric portion of the exercise It doesn't build as much. So I think and it and and I say that like in the moment meaning like, you know what What's that thing that you and jesca always say salda your type one fun and your type two fun You have like fun that is like fun while you're in the moment like think of that like it feels like more work Yeah, and then you have like type two where it's like you get added benefits later on like that's how I think of like the isometrics isometrics may not feel like or does not seem like you are building as much muscle as Full range of motion exercises in the moment But it has this great carryover later on to the points that you're making just right now with like cns Like your ability to contract like that get a stronger better contraction recruit more muscle Will only in turn make you better at your full range of motion exercises later on Which will only make you build more muscle later on so Not training it because you think it doesn't add as much muscle or build as much muscle as a full range of motion exercise Doesn't mean that it doesn't have tremendous benefit. This is another example too of how studies can suck sometimes If you took a study that showed these people only did isometric contractions for six weeks These people only did concentric these people only did a centric Which one built the most muscle over the course of six days? You're just looking at size or something Yeah, you're gonna look at your in by itself in a study for six to eight weeks You're right the eccentric and concentric full range of motion is going to probably beat out for total muscle gain than the isometric Yeah, but the isometric still built muscle, you know when you have all three contractions Which is the lifting right eccentric which is the lowering and then isometric which is this it's not moving But you're contracting hard either pushing against an immovable object or just doing it intrinsically If you compare all three eccentric builds the most muscle Second place would be concentric third place would be isometric Right. Yeah, but what we don't what people forget is they all built muscle That means if you add them to each other You get this cumulative compounding. That's what i'm saying by that right? So it's like even though in a study like that if we're comparing you go Oh, well, i'm not going to waste my time with that one because it's the third most beneficial when it comes to building muscle But that doesn't tell the whole story of what the carryover you're getting from training By the way bodybuilders have a long history of isometric training in the 70s Arnold used to talk about doing it to sharpen and harden his muscles Bodybuilders today still do a lot of isometric training now They don't talk about it in their workouts because they don't consider posing as a part of the workout But bodybuilders are posing constantly especially before competition. What is posing? It's all isometrics and by the way for people are like, oh posing's easy No, it's not no when you're on stage and you're doing a front double bicep You don't just flex your arms you are contracting and controlling everything strong man's a better example Even even better, right? I mean they got to carry objects in an isometric position I mean they're moving with weight a lot of times, but also too They have events where they're actually just holding on to really heavy objects that are pulling them apart And they have to like squeeze as hard as possible. There's lots of events centered around just if they can keep Their their position, you know intact and strong in that position. So, you know isometrics play a huge role Next question is from twinsanity fitness What is your advice for someone who wants to start online coaching but has no experience? All right, so i'm going to go First specific. Okay, we work with a company called nci coaching And they are in in my opinion the best in the business at taking Coaches and in getting them to the point where they're successful online and success as defined by Getting their clients good results, but also it's one of the only certifications that focuses on getting These coaches to build their business. That's another part of Being an effective coach is you got to be good with your clients, which is a big part of it Obviously be good trainer or coach get people results do a great job there But there's a business side too And that business side you don't learn from almost any certification nci does both now. I'm going to be more general Okay, here's more general advice Go be a trainer at a big box gym for a year before you try doing online coaching if you're new If you're brand new I think you'll learn you'll become so much better online if you train people in person first For at least a year because I believe online coaching Especially when it comes to fitness like exercise, it's harder than being in person in person I can give I can watch you move. I can see cues I if I don't have that experience and i'm texting with someone and they're explaining how an exercise feels I'm going to be clueless. But if I've trained people 100 times and they say man, it's really weird when I do Cable rows. I feel kind of pain in my lower back and I know oh Tighten your abs while you're pulling the weight because I've trained people in person so much And I've done that cue to help them. So that's more general do some personal training in person in a big box gym They'll provide you with Opportunities. It's easier to get clients there do that for a little while then go online No, that's why I'm glad that we've sort of been a part of this and been a part of these conversations with these Coaches and trainers because this question comes up a lot and a lot of them are brand new to the space And I do agree, you know the physical part of it is hard to replicate But you know the part of that process is being able to figure out what the right questions are to ask And to be predictive with that in terms of like staying ahead of your client's needs And being able to kind of you know sharpen it down to what the the bare essentials are for for them to focus on So you're not overwhelming them with everything and I think that you know with nci they they've Built in like all of these things in terms of like systems for for them to kind of help these coaches figure out I need to create these systems. So that way, you know, my client feels like everything is under control like, uh, you know At that way it's somewhat predictive And they can kind of replicate that with with other And individualizing customize it, but you need a framework there to be able to work off of first And I said, I think that's one of the hardest part to create first when you're moving online because If you don't have that experience right away It's really difficult to to figure all that out. Well, I'm going to add one more shameless plug Which is you guys plugged to nci will we have a mentorship with nci So if and it's it dug is it mind pump nci dot com or is it nci mind pump dot com mind pump nci dot com so mind pump nci dot com and you have the you have the opportunity to Meet with us zoom with us each one of us once a week. So every wednesday and it's all trainers So these are all trainers and coaches both in person and virtual coaches that are asking these types of questions So if you're not and it's unbelievably cheap for what you get So under a hundred dollars a month for you to be able to have access to all for us including jason and his team I think there's tremendous value in there and nothing will ever beat in person hands-on training one-on-one But if you're limited on how much of that you can do This is in my opinion the next best thing or if you have the ability to do both in conjunction would be great Would be going through the mentorship learning from nci and then in addition to that Also getting some hands-on practice so you can apply the knowledge and information that you're hearing from us Yeah, you know adam i want to ask you a question because i know you managed trainers for a long time as as as did i At what point did you realize that you would produce more successful trainers by teaching them The business rather than just teaching them to be better trainers almost instantly it was something that And this is truly what what made me a good fitness manager and even a good trainer I actually talked about this Recently on nci they were asking they asked what one of the questions was adam How did you program when you first started as a trainer? I said that's the wrong question to ask me Because it's not going to be good advice. I wasn't a good trainer. I wasn't uh, the the nutrition and the biomechanics All that stuff came later that came later with experience lots of national certifications Did I did that come full circle for me? What I was really good at the very beginning was I recognized that everybody was talking about nutrition physiology Program design that's where all the energy was fully have you heard about a good coach It was about how well he programmed or how well he knew nutrition It wasn't that this guy like operated a sick business And I just come from a different background and family and things that i'm into I'm more into the business side and I was seeking that and I couldn't find it anywhere And one of the first things I started to do with my staff right out the gates as soon as I started was Teaching them how to actually analyze their business by figuring out their show percentage their cloak Their closing percentage the average dollar they sell Yeah, so how to forecast Okay, so you say you want to make eight thousand dollars this month. Well, okay Let's just how many appointments you need. Yes, let's not just throw like a fairytale number out there Let's actually break down like how many people do you need to book? How many people are you going to see at what percentage are you going to close at what dollar amount to actually have Some so some real strategy around you that when I taught My trainers this and that I was this was where I had a lot of success was being a later on The other stuff came but yeah, it's it first of all It's got to be a given that you need to be a good trainer or work on being a good trainer So obviously you don't want to be a crappy trainer because I don't care. What else you do great You're just gonna sell garbage at that point. Yeah, you're gonna suck. It's not gonna So you got to be a great trainer, but you know what I used to do with my trainers I used to trick them because a lot of trainers they don't want to hear that They don't want to hear I just want to train people. I don't want to I don't care about business I if I just train people good and they're just that for whatever reason oftentimes fitness professionals, especially when they're early They're like anti-business. All I want to do is help people. And so what I used to do is I just trick them I would do weekly trainings with my trainers and the title of it would be How to activate your glutes more when you're doing your squats or how to correct You know common ways to correct shoulder impingement and they'd come in and I would teach them Exercises and techniques for the first 30 minutes and in the back 30 minutes was I would talk about the stuff that you said Because now I have them in front of me and it was the most valuable stuff That was the stuff that really was valuable because it learned they taught they learned how to become better at what they did Better business, which by the way bleeds into making you a better trainer and look I don't care how much passion you have if you can't support yourself with your business You're not going to be able to do it Um, and again one of the reasons why we chose to work with nci is they they do place some focus on that So you're not you're not walking into this new career You know totally blind and that's that's a big deal Look if you like our information head over to mind pump free.com and check out our guides We have so many guides that can help you with most of your fitness goals Again mind pump free.com. 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