 Greetings, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Janati Stolier of the Second. I'm the Chairman of the United States Transhumanist Party and the Chief Executive of the Nevada Transhumanist Party. And with me, I have the great honor to have Grand Duke Travis McHenry of West Arctica. So welcome to this interview. Please tell our viewers a little bit about West Arctica, how it got started, and how long it has been in existence. Well, in 2001, I discovered that there was a piece of Antarctic that had not been claimed by anybody, so I decided to go ahead and claim it for myself. I wrote letters, claimant letters, I called them, and sent them out to nine world governments plus the United Nations. And nobody challenged me, so I thought, hey, this is gonna work. So since 2001, we're going on 16 years now, I have, you know, affirmed that claim and tried to maintain my ownership of that very large chunk of Western Antarctic. Excellent. So what does it take to make a micromation work for 16 years? What types of skills or good fortune are needed for that? Well, they're definitely gonna have its ups and downs. Some years you have a lot of great successes, and some years it really is tough to get people involved and to get, you know, you have to be able to appear at events and be able to speak intelligently in public, and things like that are very, very helpful. It can also be really helpful to draw up some people around you who are willing to help. I've got a great Prime Minister, I have a Minister of Technology, it's good to have strong people around you. Excellent. Now, as you know, the transhumanist party stands for the advancement of science and technology to improve the human condition. Do you think, as technology advances, there will be more micronations or more possibilities for creating micronations? Well, I do, because, I mean, you've got C-STET, a C-STET movement which aims to create independent countries floating out of the ocean. And, I mean, the technological advances that will be required to do that would be, you know, really astounding. We don't really have that technology yet, but once that technology is there, you can have independent countries in the middle of the ocean, you can have them in the Antarctica, you can have them on the Moon, you can have them floating out of space. I mean, wherever you are, you can say, this is my, this is my nation. These people will with me on my country now. So, technology is the, the thing that will give us the pathway to create more human countries. Absolutely. And it's interesting, because in a way, the United States was also created through advancements in technology and navigation that made it possible for Europeans to settle the American continent. That is absolutely right. You know, the advances in sailing, navigation, all those sort of names, you know, and then the American railways. The railways opened up the entire country, so we were able to make America what it is today. Thanks to advances in technology. Yes, indeed. So, what can micronationalism and the efforts of people like you teach the rest of us, the citizens of large established political jurisdictions, and how can it perhaps help us overcome some of the political barriers to progress that exist? Well, you know, as a micronationalist, I find that I have to be a politician. When I go online, I can't just, you know, blast somebody in an online form. I have to remember that I'm representing over 2,000 West Africans that I stand for and represent them. So, when I think as people, so anyone who's a part of an established political system, they need to remember that when they talk, you know, every action they make is not just them personally. But there you go aside, and remember, they're representing 2,000 very different, very varied personalities, different kinds of people. Great advice for anybody who's leading a nation or a political movement, or even an organization. Grenadine Travis, thank you very much for your time today. Thank you,